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[captive]

Yet you chose to make a lame post about trolls instead. I'm sure that will help the cause around here. And fc, it's the same talking points on both sides, ALL THE TIME. Take exception to it all or nothing, so you don't sound like a hypocrite.

This thread is about BLU-RAY. What would you expect to find in a BLU-RAY thread?
Apparently its pointless bullshit, posted by you and other annoying HD DVD supporters.

"OMG GUYS the PiP is teh awesome, the craptacular matrix triology will saveth our format!!111!!one"

At least Disney/Buena Vista is releasing Pirates 1 & 2 seperatly so you have an option, maybe its because each movie can stand up in its own merit without having to focus on selling all the movies as a forced expensive package because the other movies out side of the first didnt suck huge ass. *cough* warner *cough*

 

[VanMardigan]

I doubt I'll even get the Matrix set and like I said, I figured this was the de facto thread for BR/HD DVD discussion. Also, I'm sure if the 3rd Pirates movie were already released we'd be getting a set option first, with the seperate movies being sold around next year. Similar to what Paramount did with Mission Impossible. Studios love to bundle, this isn't new. If Warner wants to sell the subpar 2nd and 3rd movies, this is what they had to do.

 

[Suikoguy]

But PIP! Its so awesome! More important than studio support!!

I'm so tempted to sell my blu-ray collection cause of lack of PIP...

 

[yacobod]

it's all matter of preference and opinion, i think matrix reloaded is a pretty good action movie with some awesome action set pieces, you remove the stupid dance/rave scene from the beginning of the movie, and i think the movie would get a lot less hate, i personally cant wait to see the highway scene, the staircase fight, among others at home in hd

 

[Wulfer]

From AVS:

This should be hitting the press release circles shortly.

"NEW - Instant Rebates:

- From May 20 through June 9, movie enthusiasts that purchase an HD-A2 HD
DVD player will receive a $100 in-store instant rebate.

- From June 10 through June 16, consumers that purchase any Toshiba HD DVD
player will receive a $100 in-store instant rebate. For individuals
seeking the complete home theater package, an HD DVD player can be
purchased with any Toshiba 42" (measured diagonally) or larger HDTV for
a $200 in-store instant rebate.

Attention Matrix Fans: If dad is a fan of the Matrix movies, there is more exciting news: The Complete Matrix Trilogy and The Ultimate Matrix Collection will be released by Warner Home Video in high definition only on HD DVD on May 22. Now with HD DVD, it is possible to capture every detail of the movies' high action sequences and special effects.

Five Free HD DVDs: Toshiba continues to offer its well accepted five free HD DVD movie mail-in offer promotion. Running through July 31, 2007, consumers who purchase any Toshiba HD DVD player can get five HD DVD titles for free. Consumers can choose the five free HD DVD movies from a selection of 15. This offer is available in conjunction with the previously listed promotions and rebates -- full offer details are available at http://www.toshibahddvd.com/."


An HD-A2 standalone for $299.99 plus 5 free HD movies W O W ! ! !

 

[Flo_Evans]

:lol this thread is getting tense...

So what is up with Blade Runner on blu-ray? I was so pissed off at the last version I bought on DVD that had only a stereo soundtrack and looked like shit. One DVD I would gladly replace.

 

[jjasper]

An HD-A2 standalone for $299.99 plus 5 free HD movies W O W ! ! !

Its been like this (but sometimes is up to 319) on amazon since the most recent price drop

 

[MickeyKnox]

From AVS:

This should be hitting the press release circles shortly.

"NEW - Instant Rebates:

- From May 20 through June 9, movie enthusiasts that purchase an HD-A2 HD
DVD player will receive a $100 in-store instant rebate.

- From June 10 through June 16, consumers that purchase any Toshiba HD DVD
player will receive a $100 in-store instant rebate. For individuals
seeking the complete home theater package, an HD DVD player can be
purchased with any Toshiba 42" (measured diagonally) or larger HDTV for
a $200 in-store instant rebate.

Attention Matrix Fans: If dad is a fan of the Matrix movies, there is more exciting news: The Complete Matrix Trilogy and The Ultimate Matrix Collection will be released by Warner Home Video in high definition only on HD DVD on May 22. Now with HD DVD, it is possible to capture every detail of the movies' high action sequences and special effects.

Five Free HD DVDs: Toshiba continues to offer its well accepted five free HD DVD movie mail-in offer promotion. Running through July 31, 2007, consumers who purchase any Toshiba HD DVD player can get five HD DVD titles for free. Consumers can choose the five free HD DVD movies from a selection of 15. This offer is available in conjunction with the previously listed promotions and rebates -- full offer details are available at http://www.toshibahddvd.com/."


An HD-A2 standalone for $299.99 plus 5 free HD movies W O W ! ! !

:lol :lol :lol
right then, if life is "hard" for BluRay how do we describe life for HD-DVD?
multiorgan system failure?

 

[Wulfer]

Well, let see you guys said price wouldn't be a factor in PS3 sales and you got that wrong! I don't think I'd be laughing at HD-DVD's price drop right now. See you don't see the big picture, this will cause that many more people (J6P) to think twice about getting a PS3. Oh, I forgot you want that right?

 

[jjasper]

Well, let see you guys said price wouldn't be a factor in PS3 sales and you got that wrong! I don't think I'd be laughing at HD-DVD's price drop right now. See you don't see the big picture, this will cause that many more people (J6P) to think twice about getting a PS3. Oh, I forgot you want that right?

Ok so without PS3 blu ray would be dead, so now the big push is that when the price of these players both blu ray and HD DVD go down ps3 will be dead?

 

[Wulfer]

Ok so without PS3 blu ray would be dead, so now the big push is that when the price of these players both blu ray and HD DVD go down ps3 will be dead?

You guys just don't get it do you? Well I'm off work time to go play the Halo 3 Beta. See you later...

 

[jjasper]

You guys just don't get it do you? Well I'm off work time to go play the Halo 3 Beta. See you later...

I love how you didn't explain what "we don't get"

 

[The Main Event]

http://avzombie.com/blog/2007/05/15/uk-tech-shop-staff-predict-hd-dvd-will-beat-blu-ray/

A survey of UK consumer electronic store staff reveals that most believe that HD DVD and not Blu-ray will win the next generation disc format war. A survey conducted by technology field marketing agency Gekko of 425 shop staff from Currys.digital, Comet and John Lewis were asked by to name the format they thought would win out. A massive sixty per cent voted HD-DVD, leaving 38 per cent backing Blu-ray. 2 per cent were undecided. HD-DVD pricing (21 per cent) and availability (16 per cent) were seen as key factofrs for potential buyers.
The news will doubtless come as a surprise to Walt Disney Company president and CEO Bob Iger who recently told US reporters that outside of the US, there isn’t even a HD format war happening. “If you look across the globe, the only place there is really a format war is in the United States,” he proclaimed. “In other markets where next-gen DVD is starting to penetrate, Blu-ray is winning, and substantially - so much so there isn’t even a perceived format war.”

:lol

Standalone HD players sales:

UK: 74% HD DVD - 26% Blu-Ray
France: 69% HD DVD - 31% Blu-Ray
Germany: 84% HD DVD - 16% Blu-Ray
Italy: 35% HD DVD - 65% Blu-Ray
Spain: 42% HD DVD - 58% Blu-Ray
Switzerland: 74% HD DVD - 26% Blu-Ray

Total: 74% HD DVD - 26% Blu-Ray

 

[VanMardigan]

UK: 74% HD DVD - 26% Blu-Ray
France: 69% HD DVD - 31% Blu-Ray
Germany: 84% HD DVD - 16% Blu-Ray
Italy: 35% HD DVD - 65% Blu-Ray
Spain: 42% HD DVD - 58% Blu-Ray
Switzerland: 74% HD DVD - 26% Blu-Ray

Total: 74% HD DVD - 26% Blu-Ray

the hell's wrong with Italy? No love for the humongously amazing and tremendously beneficial PiP commentaries?

 

[rc213]

A survey of UK consumer electronic store staff

:lol Indeed

 

[jjasper]

the hell's wrong with Italy? No love for the humongously amazing and tremendously beneficial PiP commentaries?

:lol

Yeah I remember reading that Disney quote and thinking that I had seen somewhere that in Europe it wasn't a war at all because HD DVD was destryoing Blu Ray (but I think that was before the PS3 launched)

 

[VanMardigan]

:lol Indeed

What, you didn't see the survey of the influential and well-informed EB/GameStop employees who predicted Wii's demise?

 

[fortified_concept]

http://avzombie.com/blog/2007/05/15/uk-tech-shop-staff-predict-hd-dvd-will-beat-blu-ray/



:lol

Standalone HD players sales:

UK: 74% HD DVD - 26% Blu-Ray
France: 69% HD DVD - 31% Blu-Ray
Germany: 84% HD DVD - 16% Blu-Ray
Italy: 35% HD DVD - 65% Blu-Ray
Spain: 42% HD DVD - 58% Blu-Ray
Switzerland: 74% HD DVD - 26% Blu-Ray

Total: 74% HD DVD - 26% Blu-Ray

PS3 - around 1 million. Bye-bye standalone players competition.

 

[Mrbob]

Standalone hd player sales in Europe which are less than 10,000 total. Those percentages don't look too hot anymore. Especially considering PS3 is near a million sold in Europe at the moment.

The Toshiba 100 dollar off promo is pretty good. Too bad it is only for a couple weeks. Seems to be centered around the matrix release.

 

[Oni Jazar]

UK: 74% HD DVD - 26% Blu-Ray
France: 69% HD DVD - 31% Blu-Ray
Germany: 84% HD DVD - 16% Blu-Ray
Italy: 35% HD DVD - 65% Blu-Ray
Spain: 42% HD DVD - 58% Blu-Ray
Switzerland: 74% HD DVD - 26% Blu-Ray

Total: 74% HD DVD - 26% Blu-Ray

Now post the actual numbers instead of the percentages.

Here:

        Blu-ray HD DVD 

France        671 1473
Germany       538 2897
Italy         354  193
Spain         184  133
Switzerland   141  523
UK            777 2213

Total        2665 7432

 

[fortified_concept]

it was a good spin while it lasted

 

[Chemo]

it was a good spin while it lasted

Hell yeah, a whole 28 minutes!

 

[rc213]

Panasonic launches $600 DMP-BD10A Blu-ray player, bundles five films
http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/15/panasonic-launches-600-dmp-bd10a-blu-ray-player-bundles-five-f/

Not too long after Pioneer went and introduced its second generation Blu-ray player, along comes Panasonic to follow suit, but unlike the BDP-LX70, we've got a pricetag as well as a few tempting reasons to pick this one up over the competition. The DMP-BD10A packs an audio upgrade that brings 7.1, Dolby True HD, and DTS-HD on board, and it incorporates Panasonic's EZ-Sync system for "one-touch operation" of your home theater. The overall design doesn't deviate too far from that seen in the first iteration, but you will find 1080p upconversion via HDMI, a 14-bit DA converter with 4x oversampling, support for BD-J, and compatibility between select HD camcorders via the AVCHD (H.264) codec. Notably, Panasonic is giving users two reasons to seriously considering its new offering, as the fairly reasonable $599.95 pricetag looks even better when you consider the five BD films (Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl, Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest, Transporter, Fantastic Four, and Crash) you'll be getting right in the box.

 

[StoOgE]

What's there to retort?
HD DVD people around here are acting like the Matrix is the first HD DVD to have ****ing awesome video and audio. They(you included) are acting like you forgot about all the other HD DVD titles that are really good and that the Matrix is some savior and proof that HD DVD can produce good PQ and audio.
Some of you HD DVD fans get your knickers in such a wad when someone says that HD DVD doesnt have the full list of specs that blu-ray has like higher bitrate transfer etc.
Who gives a **** seriously, if you like HD DVD go watch HD DVD, if you like BRD go watch BRD(thats what i do). If you are fortunate to have both then enjoy them both.
But you know what, this retarded cheerleading of both sides is old and tired and maybe we should try and focus on getting one format so at least we have some sort of high def format, unlike what happened to music with SACD and DVD-A.
I dont know about any of the rest of you but pre-recorded hd content is far better than the compressed streaming crap we get on HD programming and lord knows we are no where near any type of digital distribution of high definition content.

Yeah, and BRD backers make fun of interactive features every time they are brought up (by calling it PiP when its a good deal more).
Then they mention bit rate and more storage space.
Then they mention studio support, and ignore the fact that there is in fact more than 1 studio backing HDDVD exclusively. That stuff goes both ways.

and this isnt the Bluray thread.. look at the title.. both formats right there. This has become the defacto thread just because everytime anyone starts a new one, people who dont have either format complain about the number of threads.

I agree with your point, but dont pretent to be some neutral anti-troll.. I mean you go on your little rant and then bring out the old.. "We need one format or both will die" which is the BRD supporters way of saying "this is over, sell your HDDVD players and join us".

Its fine, youve put money into your player and movies. So have I.

Just dont pretend not to have any agenda.. anyone who puts a grand into something is going to want it to win out

 

[StoOgE]

At least Disney/Buena Vista is releasing Pirates 1 & 2 seperatly so you have an option, maybe its because each movie can stand up in its own merit without having to focus on selling all the movies as a forced expensive package because the other movies out side of the first didnt suck huge ass. *cough* warner *cough*

Dude,

Pirates 2 was pretty bad.. It still had fun moments, but it never went anywhere.

I'll go see 3, but it looks like they may be going with the old "lets go completely over the top with everything because we have to outdo the last movie" thing that ruins so many sequals.

All I know is I saw a giant whirpool at the edge of the earth with about 10 ships circling it and firing at each other..

 

[captive]

At least Disney/Buena Vista is releasing Pirates 1 & 2 seperatly so you have an option, maybe its because each movie can stand up in its own merit without having to focus on selling all the movies as a forced expensive package because the other movies out side of the first didnt suck huge ass. *cough* warner *cough*

Dude,

Pirates 2 was pretty bad.. It still had fun moments, but it never went anywhere.

I'll go see 3, but it looks like they may be going with the old "lets go completely over the top with everything because we have to outdo the last movie" thing that ruins so many sequals.

All I know is I saw a giant whirpool at the edge of the earth with about 10 ships circling it and firing at each other..

learn to read.

 

[jjasper]

Don't know if this goes in here, but Hard Boiled Blu Ray is included in Stranglehold collector's Edition for PS3 for $70

 

[captive]

So how accurate is amazons database of movies coming out.
Just searching for stuff, i have found Braveheart, The Complete Adventures of Indiana Jones - the Complete movie collection, The Godfather collection, Gladiator.
Isnt gladiator universal?

 

[ManaByte]

So how accurate is amazons database of movies coming out.
Just searching for stuff, i have found Braveheart, The Complete Adventures of Indiana Jones - the Complete movie collection, The Godfather collection, Gladiator.
Isnt gladiator universal?

It's accurate, and all of those are coming to both formats because all are Paramount (and listed for BRD and HD-DVD on Amazon) and Gladiator is Dreamworks. Universal is responsible for it internationally.

The Indy sets are scheduled for May 2008 along with the DVDs of the Young Indy series in time for the new movie. The HD sets may arrive earlier though.

 

[Frankfurter]

Now post the actual numbers instead of the percentages.

Here:

        Blu-ray HD DVD 

France        671 1473
Germany       538 2897
Italy         354  193
Spain         184  133
Switzerland   141  523
UK            777 2213

Total        2665 7432

Where do you have the percentages and the absolute numbers from? I clicked the source, but they nowhere to be found there.

Anyway, these sales are interesting, but also not really surprising (interesting though how the percentages vary, from 35% HD DVD players in Italy to 84% in Germany).
On the plus side for HD DVD, their standalone players have a 74% marketshare, on the minus side there are ~1m PS3s sold though in Europe, so even if only 1% of the PS3 owners actually buy Blu Ray movies (not counting the billions of Casino Royale movies that Sony sent out), Blu Ray would still be in a better position.

 

[captive]

It's accurate, and all of those are coming to both formats because all are Paramount (and listed for BRD and HD-DVD on Amazon) and Gladiator is Dreamworks. Universal is responsible for it internationally.

The Indy sets are scheduled for May 2008 along with the DVDs of the Young Indy series in time for the new movie. The HD sets may arrive earlier though.

Cool, I was just searching to see if i wanted any other BRDs while i ordered Pirates 1 & 2 for me and a friend.
Cant wait for some Braveheart, thats one i definitely wouldnt mind replacing the standard DVD with.

 

[NR1]

- From June 10 through June 16, consumers that purchase any Toshiba HD DVD
player will receive a $100 in-store instant rebate. For individuals
seeking the complete home theater package, an HD DVD player can be
purchased with any Toshiba 42" (measured diagonally) or larger HDTV for
a $200 in-store instant rebate.

Five Free HD DVDs: Toshiba continues to offer its well accepted five free HD DVD movie mail-in offer promotion. Running through July 31, 2007, consumers who purchase any Toshiba HD DVD player can get five HD DVD titles for free. Consumers can choose the five free HD DVD movies from a selection of 15. This offer is available in conjunction with the previously listed promotions and rebates -- full offer details are available at http://www.toshibahddvd.com/."

Toshiba HD-A2 HD-DVD Player - Toshiba
In Stock
Shipped from: Electronics Expo
$277.88

This price doesn't reflect the $100 instant rebate, so you're telling me that I can get into the HD market for $177.88 with 5 free movies this June? SOLD!

Why won't the Blu-ray camp follow by example?! It's sad that the next best offer is the Panasonic DMP-BD10A with 5 free movies for $599.99.

 

[Wulfer]

Toshiba HD-A2 HD-DVD Player - Toshiba
In Stock
Shipped from: Electronics Expo
$277.88

This price doesn't reflect the $100 instant rebate, so you're telling me that I can get into the HD market for $177.88 with 5 free movies this June? SOLD!

Why won't the Blu-ray camp follow by example?! It's sad that the next best offer is the Panasonic DMP-BD10A with 5 free movies for $599.99.

Ahh someone finally got it. I knew someone on this board was smart enough to put the puzzle together!!! Who's laughing now??? Ok, back to Halo!

 

[Cosmic Bus]

This price doesn't reflect the $100 instant rebate, so you're telling me that I can get into the HD market for $177.88 with 5 free movies this June? SOLD!

Seriously, that's the kind of thing really tempting me, but the movies you can choose to get from Toshiba are nearly all complete garbage (there's only one out of the entire batch I'd even consider owning). On the other hand, Best Buy and Circuit City do 4 or 5 free IN STORE occasionally (on top of the 5 mail-in discs), and you can choose from any titles they have. Problem is, the price goes back up since you're paying retail for the player...

 

[Chemo]

Why won't the Blu-ray camp follow by example?!

Because it doesn't have to? It isn't a great deal for the good of the people, it's a desperation move for the good of the format.

 

[MickeyKnox]

Matrix HDDVD screenies









http://img9.imagepile.net/img9/1103871matrixshot0110.png
http://img9.imagepile.net/img9/8735037matrixshot0117.png
http://img9.imagepile.net/img9/4465771matrixshot0006.png
http://img9.imagepile.net/img9/5449822matrixshot0014.png

The shot of Morpheus looks good, but the IQ on the rest is pretty disappointing (I know these are off screen caps) hopefully it looks better in person.

 

[Wulfer]

Because it doesn't have to? It isn't a great deal for the good of the people, it's a desperation move for the good of the format.

Do you sit in on Toshiba business meetings? No you don't so, desperation is a little much don't you think? You see Toshiba didn't spend millions of (wasted dollars I might add) on advertising until they needed it. Blu-ray blew tons of money on advertising. HD-DVD saved their money for moves like this and I'd say this could be quite effective move on their part!

 

[mckmas8808]

Do you sit in on Toshiba business meetings? No you don't so, desperation is a little much don't you think? You see Toshiba didn't spend millions of (wasted dollars I might add) on advertising until they needed it. Blu-ray blew tons of money on advertising. HD-DVD saved their money for moves like this and I'd say this could be quite effective move on their part!

It's a desperation move plain and simple. You and I both know it.

 

[NR1]

Because it doesn't have to? It isn't a great deal for the good of the people, it's a desperation move for the good of the format.

As I have said earlier in this topic, I'm a blu-ray supporter, but that is a horrible conclusion to come to.

This is a format war. Take no prisoners and show no mercy. That's like the Bush administration saying, "We're winning the war on terror." Who cares if we're winning? At the end of the day we're still at war. Just WIN the damn war and end this nonsense.

Blu-ray is "winning" now, so why not take this opportunity to deliver a decisive blow to the HD-DVD camp and just WIN? All they have done is allow the HD-DVD camp to lure customers away with a more attractive price that were more than willing to support their format exclusively. Now the war will continue to drag on...

 

[DarkJediKnight]

Toshiba HD-A2 HD-DVD Player - Toshiba
In Stock
Shipped from: Electronics Expo
$277.88

Why won't the Blu-ray camp follow by example?! .

The sad fact is BDA knows they don't need to. Hey I want to buy a $399 Blu-ray standalone too. Not the 1st gen Samsung either. They know that by the end of the year, it'll pretty much be over. You can entice people to buy players through extreme discounts because it's YOUR format, but you can't force Studios to follow as well - because they don't give a damn other than $$$. And that's what matters - software sales. HD DVD has always had the price advantage in hardware, but it's still losing in software sales, even during weeks where HD DVD had more and better releases than Blu-ray. HD DVD has thrown everything but the kitchen sink at Blu-ray and Blu-ray is just now releasing some major titles (Pirates). And this is why HD DVD will lose; they don't have enough (sellable) exclusives to counter the massive amounts of franchises under Blu-ray's belt. Doesn't matter if the price of the player is $299 or $199.

 

[Chemo]

Blu-ray is "winning" now, so why not take this opportunity to deliver a decisive blow to the HD-DVD camp and just WIN? All they have done is allow the HD-DVD camp to lure customers away with a more attractive price that were more than willing to support their format exclusively. Now the war will continue to drag on...

Because. It. Doesn't. Have. To.

I wouldn't even say the war is dragging. It'll be wrapped up within a year, maybe even within 6-8 months.

Do you sit in on Toshiba business meetings? No you don't so, desperation is a little much don't you think? You see Toshiba didn't spend millions of (wasted dollars I might add) on advertising until they needed it. Blu-ray blew tons of money on advertising. HD-DVD saved their money for moves like this and I'd say this could be quite effective move on their part!

I would have to say that this is one of the dumbest ****ing posts I have read in I don't know how long. Sony blew money on advertising... and that's a bad thing? HD DVD saved their money and, instead of advertising to get their product known, they decided to give away tons of HD DVDs? So you're saying that HD DVD isn't advertised at all, and Sony offers absolutely nothing of value? Where do you come up with this? This is some seriously delusional fantasy land shit here.

 

[alr1ght]

The shot of Morpheus looks good, but the IQ on the rest is pretty disappointing (I know these are off screen caps) hopefully it looks better in person.

direct grabs.

 

[lupin23rd]

the hell's wrong with Italy? No love for the humongously amazing and tremendously beneficial PiP commentaries?

Italy is all about fashion and looking good.

The ****ing ugly purple box that HD-DVDs come in is not good looking, which is the main reason why it needs to die a horrible death and the sooner the better.

Regarding those European percentages, I wouldn't be surprised if those were actually sales figures instead of percentages (65 units vs 35 units).

m

 

[Kleegamefan]

But PIP! Its so awesome! More important than studio support!!

ZING!!:lol :lol

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

How about an embargo on generalizing what people supporting a format care about? Hmm? How about we talk for ourselves for a while on this thread?

Re: cheaper HD-DVD prices-- bring em on. If the format war momentum turns around on cheap players and HD-DVD gets the support it's been lacking, no problem-- as it will be cheap and I'll snap a player up. Needs the studio support, though. Perhaps it will accellerate the drop of BD player prices, too.

 

[teiresias]

POTC is definitely NOT bitrate starved:

 

[VanMardigan]

From the GamerScore Blog:

Clearing the Air: In Support of HD DVD...

'Just want to clear up a few things surrounding several erroneous stories regarding alleged comments from Peter Moore about Xbox 360 supporting Blu-ray. Simply put...These reports are completely incorrect.



Some online media outlets have picked up this story and are citing Internet speculation of an alleged Associated Press story that does not exist, along with comments taken out of context from a story in ITmedia that appeared back in January. This information is being reported as news and as a result of a recent interview, neither of which are true.



In an interview with ITmedia back at CES in January of this year, Peter said Xbox 360 has the flexibility to adapt to consumers’ needs, allowing Microsoft to add features as consumers demand them - as evidenced by the offering of the HD DVD Player as an accessory.

It is important to understand the context in which that statement was made. We firmly stand behind the HD DVD format as the best choice for consumers. Current reports indicating that Microsoft has a back-up plan, which includes Blu-ray support are incorrect. We’re fully committed to HD DVD and have absolutely no plans to support other optical formats.

That's it.

Later,

 

[djkimothy]

Well, it looks like the PQ of The Fountain is pretty decent overall from this review. Does anyone else agree? And once again, Warner gimps the audio track for the blu-ray edition. Despite using a BD-50 disc, they are really taking a dive with this. :/

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/fountain.html

 

[StoOgE]

ZING!!:lol :lol

klee finds pro Sony comment amusing.

Film at 11.

 

[VanMardigan]

How about we stir up this thread with the top 5 HD discs you've seen (regardless of format)?

Mine (all HDDVD since I've yet to see a BR movie):

1. King Kong
2. Happy Feet
3. Batman Begins
4. Cinderella Man
5. The Departed

I'm guessing once I get Planet Earth, my top five will be raped. Plus, I've probably seen a lot less HD movies than most of you guys. :lol