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Hi-Def Media Lovefest: The war is over and we can all go home.

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Nicodimas

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They simply can't justify the expenditure until that happens.
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Or they may just wait until the mass market picks it up...lots of money is being lossed released early. You release later you most likely will sell more as it seems newer with other new releases.
 
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polyh3dron

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HocusPocus

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How is Blu-Ray selling compared to DVD now? It's being pushed now by everyone and there's no excuses anymore. It should start making an impact now.
 
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teiresias

Member
I'm really starting to get fed up with both HomeTheaterForum and AVS continuing this ridiculous "We Support both Formats" line. Moderators and owners of both forums frequently expound on the importance of having one format, but they certainly haven't helped the enthusiast community along to that goal in any shape or form throughout this format war by refusing to pick sides.

I need not mention how both places have always seemed biased toward HD-DVD in both the moderation of the forums and statements made by the forum owners and "staff." At this point, they're not even reading the writing on the wall as well as the studios or the retailers, while they continue their blatant HD-DVD bias based moderation of the discussions.
 
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Raistlin

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Nicodimas said:
Or they may just wait until the mass market picks it up...lots of money is being lossed released early. You release later you most likely will sell more as it seems newer with other new releases.
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The point being that mass market adoption is unlikely until the format war is over.



Christopher said:
well honestly what more can they do to Cinderella?
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?

You haven't seen what HD restorations of animated films look like ... have you.
 
ManaByte

ManaByte

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Ponn01 said:
Don't they have Cinderella slated for this year on BD? That will be interesting to see. I'm already not seeing much of a jump in quality with animation but that will be a true test.
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What? No. Cinderella is on home video moratorium for the next seven years. You won't see a BRD release of it until 2014 or 2015.

Sleeping Beauty is coming out this year on BRD as the Platinum DVD release is this year as well (and the old two-disc is now OOP).

As they re-release the Platinum releases; they'll get BRD releases. 101 Dalmations won't get BRD this March as it was too soon to prep a BRD in addition to the DVD, but I'd expect Pinocchio next year on BRD in March/October.

Disney releases on Platinum movie in March and a second in October. Pinocchio was originally set for Oct 08 before Sleeping Beauty was rushed in its spot (they want the Cinescope Sleeping Beauty to be their first HD classic), so it's possible it'll be in March if they don't slot the Platinum Dumbo first. There's some push for Pinnochio to be the final first-run Platinum release before they start re-releases of Snow White and Beauty and the Best.

As for Song of the South, it's still being slated as a 25,000 copy Disney Treasures tin release and then a BRD exclusive release six to twelve months later.
 
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Raistlin

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HocusPocus said:
How is Blu-Ray selling compared to DVD now? It's being pushed now by everyone and there's no excuses anymore. It should start making an impact now.
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What?

:lol



That was a joke post ... wasn't it?
 
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Snah

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teiresias said:
I'm really starting to get fed up with both HomeTheaterForum and AVS continuing this ridiculous "We Support both Formats" line. Moderators and owners of both forums frequently expound on the importance of having one format, but they certainly haven't helped the enthusiast community along to that goal in any shape or form throughout this format war by refusing to pick sides.

I need not mention how both places have always seemed biased toward HD-DVD in both the moderation of the forums and statements made by the forum owners and "staff." At this point, they're not even reading the writing on the wall as well as the studios or the retailers, while they continue their blatant HD-DVD bias based moderation of the discussions.
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I only browse the blu-ray.com forums now.

HDD and AVS are festering shitholes filled with posters 1000x worse than Nicodimas and 1000x as serious.
 
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Azrael

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[Nicodemas]This is great news for HD DVD. Now that Netflix no longer carries HD DVD, more HD DVD owners will buy movies instead of rent them. HD DVD sales will surge, and Disney and Fox will begin supporting HD DVD[/Nicodemas]
 
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Nicodimas

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HDD and AVS are festering shitholes filled with posters 1000x worse than Nicodimas and 1000x as serious.
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Thank you! I think..I still go to both and learned from HDD from ookie of all people.

[Nicodemas]This is great news for HD DVD. Now that Netflix no longer carries HD DVD, more HD DVD owners will buy movies instead of rent them. HD DVD sales will surge, and Disney and Fox will begin supporting HD DVD[/Nicodemas]
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I like the way you think..


Seriously though Hd-dvd is on Life support.I awaiting for the next big move because it should happen.. It ain't over until Uni/paramount switch ok guys? I can argue my point until this happens. So keep praying because at this point you guys must be confused as hell why this has not occured~ I would be.
 
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Raistlin

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Nicodimas said:
Thank you! I think..I still go to both and learned from HDD from ookie of all people.



I like the way you think..


Seriously though Hd-dvd is on Life support.I awaiting for the next big move because it should happen.. It ain't over until Uni/paramount switch ok guys? I can argue my point until this happens. So keep praying because at this point you guys must be confused as hell why this has not occured~ I would be.
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Its not confusing ... there are likely some contractual obligations still being rendered.


That said, I will concede the point it ain't 'over' until they switch or go neutral.
 
The Main Event

The Main Event

Member
Onix said:
Its starting to improve ... but yeah, that isn't far off from the reality. They make GAF look good >_<


I will say this however, HDD's BD import forum is quite useful. http://forums.highdefdigest.com/forumdisplay.php?f=68



blu-ray.com is pretty good though ... definitely less assholes.
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Why wouldn't it be? Everyone is on the same boat :lol

HDD is awful, I check out the smackdown forum for a few laughs then go check out the HD DVD or the BD sections. AVS's moderators are much better than before. You can't really keep a topic with a decent discussion when people keep replying with one-liners like "it's dead", "no it's not", "it's over", "not until X switches over"........And the more it goes, the less the discussion has to do with the original topic.

Even though not many people frequent it, I personally like the DVD Talk Forum.
 
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Nicodimas

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blu-ray.com is pretty good though ... definitely less assholes.
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Yeah lotsa asshole there..I have been reading that stuff and that where I derived my whole pride front for the war.

Minus a few posters we have a fun going crowd here..that does not take it overtly serious
 
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Stinkles

Clothed, sober, cooperative
Onix said:
Its not confusing ... there are likely some contractual obligations still being rendered.


That said, I will concede the point it ain't 'over' until they switch or go neutral.
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Why can't you just accept that there is a secret plan Onix? Hmmm?
 
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Raistlin

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Weird ... I've been looking through HDD's BD import subforum (where NO platform bashing is allowed) ... and found some interesting info.



All US HD-DVD-only releases that Warner has distribution rights to in the UK (mostly Paramount ones iirc) ... are announced to be region-free.

Beyond that however, nearly all of them have lossless audio ... whereas the Paramount releases on HD-DVD are nearly all DD+ (and some at 640k, ie. DD).





Oh ... and holy shit ...

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That is a fucking HOT cover!!!!
 
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kaching

"GAF's biggest wanker"
Nicodimas said:
I awaiting for the next big move because it should happen.. It ain't over until Uni/paramount switch ok guys? I can argue my point until this happens.
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Problem is, Uni and Paramount have made their move. You think it's any accident that they're sitting by doing next to nothing as the likes of Netflix and Best Buy state their plans to focus on BD? Do you really think they're waiting until after such decisions are made just to increase the drama?
 
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Snah

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kaching said:
Problem is, Uni and Paramount have made their move. You think it's any accident that they're sitting by doing next to nothing as the likes of Netflix and Best Buy state their plans to focus on BD? Do you really think they're waiting until after such decisions are made just to increase the drama?
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Contractual obligations are at play here.

They're being held by the balls from Toshiba.

So, we'll play a waiting game until Toshiba throws in the towel or Universal/Paramount can opt out.
 
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kaching

"GAF's biggest wanker"
I realize that. That's my point - they're obviously doing the bare minimum that they're contractually obligated to do at this point, which is clearly the decision they've made.
 
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OokieSpookie

Banned
Snah said:
Contractual obligations are at play here.

They're being held by the balls from Toshiba.

So, we'll play a waiting game until Toshiba throws in the towel or Universal/Paramount can opt out.
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Exactly.
Contrary to what people may want to say, there are still cards that have to enter play before Paramount and to a lesser degree Universal can move.
A direct money offer can not get them out of their contractual obligations, the hd-dvd format itself has to reach a point of liability and then they can move.
This is not random, and these happenings are not lucky breaks.
 
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Raistlin

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Midas said:
http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/1...how-hd-dvd-hardware-sales-still-trailing-blu/
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Nfinity's answer to poor NPD numbers:
Nfinity will claim they are bought off buy Sony. It is all part of Sony conspiracy to rule/destory the world. Your Blu-ray player will one day turn into a robot, rape you wife and daughter, kill your son, and make you watch it all on a Bravia in 1080p. Oh it will be horrible. Amazon sales are great. BOGO is proof that they are winning. Next month HD-DVD will have a comeback.
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:lol :lol :lol
 
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Burai

shitonmychest57
Onix said:
Oh ... and holy shit ...

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That is a fucking HOT cover!!!!
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Hells yeah. I was walking past my local Blockbuster when that was released on DVD and they had the cover blown up on a poster in the window. I just went straight in and bought it on the spot. "Great film isn't it?" asked the bloke behind the counter. "Yeah, sure" I hastily agreed. I had no fucking idea.

Luckily it was pretty good, but that's the only time sex has ever directly sold me anything. It was like an out of body experience where my balls basically took over my entire being and spent £15 of my hard earned.

BTW, the DVD cover was better cos it didn't have the red banding or the M covering her cooch:

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viewtifulsub

Member
Anyone know any good UK/Euro retailers that stock BR titles at decent prices, and ship internationally? I need my Eastern Promises & Children of Men fix.
 
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DrXym

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Onix said:
Wait ... that's actually real 0_o

:lol

HOLY SHIT


did someone print that out, and tape it there? :lol
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I don't see Best Buy doing it so I reckon someone printed it out and taped it. Pretty childish really but it would have been funny to see if any fanboys threw a fit over it.
 
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DrXym

Member
Nfinity's answer to poor NPD numbers:
Nfinity will claim they are bought off buy Sony. It is all part of Sony conspiracy to rule/destory the world. Your Blu-ray player will one day turn into a robot, rape you wife and daughter, kill your son, and make you watch it all on a Bravia in 1080p. Oh it will be horrible. Amazon sales are great. BOGO is proof that they are winning. Next month HD-DVD will have a comeback.
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Onix said:
:lol :lol :lol
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Just read some of the posts by Nfinity and Truth Teller. Baghdad Bob would feel uneasy making some of the statements these two clowns pull out. Nfinity thinks everything is a conspiracy and Truth Teller disparages the PS3 every chance he gets. Both lost touch with reality some time ago.
 
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wotter

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Currently, there's a 2+1 free policy running in some shops here in Belgium (free record shop, extra zone,...). I'm willing to buy some movies but I'm not sure what my third will be. Cars and Ratatouille are almost a certainty though. Too bad the simpsons movie doesn't belong to the list of movies. Can someone recommend me my third free movie? Here's the list of movies:

- 13 GHOSTS
- 1408
- 50 FIRST DATES
- AIR FORCE ONE
- ALIEN VS PREDATOR
- ALL THE KING'S MEN
- ALMOST FAMOUS
- ARE WE DONE YET?
- BIG FISH
- THE BIG HIT
- BLACK HAWK DOWN (already bought)
- BRAM STOKER'S DRACULA
- BREAKING AND ENTERING
- BROKEN ARROW
- BRUCE ALMIGHTY
- CARS
- CASINO ROYALE (free ps3 movie :))
- CATCH AND RELEASE
- CHICKEN LITTLE
- CINDERELLA MAN
- CLICK
- CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND
- CLOSER
- COMMANDO
- CON AIR
- THE CONVENANT
- CRIMSON TIDE
- CRUEL INTENTIONS
- DADDY DAY CAMP
- DAY AFTER TOMORROW
- DEJA VU
- DIE HARD
- DIE HARD 2 : DIE HARDER
- DINOSAUR
- EIGHT BELOW - ANTARTICA
- ENEMY OF THE STATE
- EXORCISM PF EMILY ROSE
- FACE OFF
- FANTASTIC 4
- A FEW GOOD MEN
- FINAL FANTASY : THE SPIRITS WITHIN
- FLATLINERS
- FLIGHT PLAN
- GATTACA
- GHOST RIDER
- GONE IN 60 SECONDS
- GOTHIKA
- GRIDIRON GANG
- THE GUARDIAN
- HELLBOY
- HITCH
- HITCHHIKER' S GUIDE TO THE GALAXY
- HOLLOW MAN
- HOLLYWOODLAND
- HOSTEL
- HOSTEL PART II
- ICE AGE 2
- IDENTITY
- IMMORTAL BELOVED
- INTO THE BLUE
- JERRY MAGUIRE
- KING ARTHUR
- KINGDOM OF HEAVEN (already bought)
- A KNIGHT'S TALE
- KUNG FU HUSTLE
- LAYER CAKE
- LEAGUE OF EXTRAORDINARY GENTLEMEN
- LEGEND OF ZORRO
- MASTER AND COMMANDER
- MEMOIRS OF GEISHA
- MONSTER HOUSE
- MONTY PYTHON - LIFE OF BRIAN
- MR & MRS SMITH
- MY BEST FRIEND' S WEDDING
- OPEN SEASON - BAAS IN EIGEN BOS
- PAPRIKA
- THE PATRIOT
- PEARL HARBOR
- PERFECT STRANGER
- PHONE BOOTH
- PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN - CURSE OF BLACK PEARL
- PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN - DEAD MAN' S CHEST
- PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN, AT WORLD'S END
- PIXAR SHORT FILM COLLECTION
- PLANET OF THE APES 2001
- PREDATOR
- PURSUIT OF HAPPYNESS
- R.V. - RUNAWAY VACATION
- RATATOUILLE
- REIGN OF FIRE
- REIGN OVER ME
- REPLACEMENT KILLERS
- ROBOCOP
- ROCKY
- RONIN
- S.W.A.T
- SANTA CLAUSE 3
- SCARY MOVIE 4
- SECRET WINDOW
- THE SENTINEL
- SEVEN YEARS IN TIBET
- SKY HIGH
- SPIDERMAN 1-2-3
- SPIDERMAN 3
- STARSHIP TROOPERS
- STEALTH
- STOMP THE YARD
- STRANGER THAN FICTION
- SUPERBAD
- SURF' S UP
- TALLADEGA NIGHTS : THE BALLAD OF RICKY BOBBY
- TEARS OF THE SUN
- TEKKONKINKREET
- THE HILLS HAVE EYES
- ULTRAVIOLET
- UNDERWORLD EVOLUTION
- THE USUAL SUSPECTS
- VACANCY
- VERTICAL LIMIT
- WILD HOGS
- WILD THINGS
- THE WILD
- X-MEN 3 : THE LAST STAND£
- XXX
 
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mrklaw

MrArseFace
just pick something that you like as a movie. Might help to expand on your tastes beyond Pixar movies.

FWIW, these are the ones I'd get, but my tastes are probably different to yours:

- ALMOST FAMOUS
- BLACK HAWK DOWN (already bought)
- CARS
- CHICKEN LITTLE
- CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND
- COMMANDO
- CON AIR
- CRIMSON TIDE
- DEJA VU
- DIE HARD
- DIE HARD 2 : DIE HARDER
- ENEMY OF THE STATE
- FACE OFF
- GATTACA
- ICE AGE 2
- JERRY MAGUIRE
- KINGDOM OF HEAVEN (already bought)
- KUNG FU HUSTLE
- MONSTER HOUSE
- MR & MRS SMITH
- PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN - CURSE OF BLACK PEARL
- PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN - DEAD MAN' S CHEST
- PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN, AT WORLD'S END
- PIXAR SHORT FILM COLLECTION
- PREDATOR
- PURSUIT OF HAPPYNESS
- RATATOUILLE
- ROBOCOP
- ROCKY
- RONIN
- STARSHIP TROOPERS
- STRANGER THAN FICTION
- SUPERBAD
- THE USUAL SUSPECTS


and damn, looking at that list makes me want to rebuy some more (bolded I already have)
 
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VanMardigan

has calmed down a bit.
Christopher said:
wow now that is some big news :lol at Van emailing them, like they give a shit.

One step closer to a Blu Future.

So who will break first Universal or Paramount?
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I didn't email them cause they gave a shit, I emailed them because I
 give a shit. You can have your Blu future, and I'll be there with you, but in the meantime, don't deprive me of movies. I understand many of you have gone two years now without Universal movies in high def and since last summer without Paramount, but I haven't. So, even if you guys don't care, I do.
 
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Ponn

Banned
ManaByte said:
What? No. Cinderella is on home video moratorium for the next seven years. You won't see a BRD release of it until 2014 or 2015.

Sleeping Beauty is coming out this year on BRD as the Platinum DVD release is this year as well (and the old two-disc is now OOP).

As they re-release the Platinum releases; they'll get BRD releases. 101 Dalmations won't get BRD this March as it was too soon to prep a BRD in addition to the DVD, but I'd expect Pinocchio next year on BRD in March/October.

Disney releases on Platinum movie in March and a second in October. Pinocchio was originally set for Oct 08 before Sleeping Beauty was rushed in its spot (they want the Cinescope Sleeping Beauty to be their first HD classic), so it's possible it'll be in March if they don't slot the Platinum Dumbo first. There's some push for Pinnochio to be the final first-run Platinum release before they start re-releases of Snow White and Beauty and the Best.

As for Song of the South, it's still being slated as a 25,000 copy Disney Treasures tin release and then a BRD exclusive release six to twelve months later.
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Sleeping Beauty, I couldn't remember which one I just knew I saw one of them coming out.

And for Onix i've seen Paprika on BD and those DBZ Broly movies. I wasn't expecting much from the DBZ movies but they were hyping how they remastered them in 1080p and all that jazz, but i'm just not seeing it with animation.

Now CG like Ratatoullie on the otherhand is unbelievable and hands down the best thing in HD.

Midas said:
http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/1...how-hd-dvd-hardware-sales-still-trailing-blu/
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That thread is pure fucking gold! :lol This post gets two thumbs up for hardcore, delusional, fanboy crap award. If you can't win try to unite Digital Download and HDDVD fanboys for a common cause I guess.
Jonathon Burdine @ Feb 12th 2008 1:17AM

still doesnt matter to me, we sell hd-dvd add on for 360 like crazy we cant keep them in stock, but those pscraps with gay ray are still on the shelves...

and why do u think we sell hd-dvd add on all the time, we have them both set up next to each other on the same tv with some of the same movies, and we the customers finish seeing them, they leave with a 360 and hd-dvd add on or they leave with the hd-dvd player, poor sony is left without a customer...

all this war is about money, who is willing to bank on it all, and thats sony... if toshiba would have put their company on the line, they would have won... but it isnt over yet, nothing is ever over until the customers say so, and i mean every customer, so until hd-dvd never sells a unit or movie then the war will continue, even if it was 99-1 the war will still go on...

so this war will never end...

oh yea, i found out what the big news in march is going to be for, toshiba paramount and universal... and no no no they are not going blu ray ever...

they are teaming up with microsoft fully, and releasing a new format, that everyone has heard of, hd-vmd...

here is the scoop...

they are starting a service where you can download full hd 1080p movies online in as little as 2 hours... plus they are using the vc-2.0 codec, that i was telling everyone about, and yes microsoft owns it and no blu ray will never have it, they have vc-1 but they wont have vc-2.0
... You will also be able to burn these movies to these new discs, best thing is they are plain regular dvds just used with a new technology, where they can get up to 40 gbs on a single layer, lets see blu ray top that... and it supports every codec known to man... When you buy them online, from my source they said that the movies will start at 12-15 dollars for the movies, and the other money coming from people purchasing the discs to burn the movies too...

i think this is it...
digital downloads already, plus you can burn them to a disc, insane... SO long good buddy HD-DVD u will be missed, haha not really these movies can play in your hd-dvd players, dont think toshiba is going to piss off all of its loyal customers... and these wont play in blu ray, man this is cracking me up, how this is going to destroy blu ray and sony's hopes of finally winning a format war, hahaha

hit me back up if you need to know more details about this... i have a few more... i will keep talking to our source and then let everyone know...

The future is blu no more, nor is it red... It's Digital
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Later reveals his source as the Microsoft rep for his store :lol
 
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Xater

Member
VanMardigan said:
I didn't email them cause they gave a shit, I emailed them because I
 give a shit. You can have your Blu future, and I'll be there with you, but in the meantime, don't deprive me of movies. I understand many of you have gone two years now without Universal movies in high def and since last summer without Paramount, but I haven't. So, even if you guys don't care, I do.
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It's not really hard to miss out on some movies. It's not like I can't see them in the cinema or from DVD if a absolutely have to. If you really have to see them in HD just be patient. It's not that hard.
 
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VanMardigan

has calmed down a bit.
Xater said:
It's not really hard to miss out on some movies. It's not like I can't see them in the cinema or from DVD if a absolutely have to. If you really have to see them in HD just be patient. It's not that hard.
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That's not the point. I already have the hardware, and the movies are being released, so what's the point of not buying them if you're netflix? The demand is CLEARLY there for the few they already have, since most HD movies are "long wait" anyway. Bah, I'm done with that. I already switched to BB Online and will hope that they at least hold out until Para/Dreamworks and Uni go neutral. So it's water under the bridge.
 
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Nicodimas

Banned
All US HD-DVD-only releases that Warner has distribution rights to in the UK (mostly Paramount ones iirc) ... are announced to be region-free.

Beyond that however, nearly all of them have lossless audio ... whereas the Paramount releases on HD-DVD are nearly all DD
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Europle Hd-dvd release are awesome..all of them have Dts-MA it seems.
 
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