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Kolgar said:
This. I basically feel the same way.
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Hi-Def Media Lovefest: The war is over and we can all go home.
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This. I basically feel the same way.
VanMardigan said:
I'm really not sure that is true. Disney would very likely be looking for an exit strategy much like Toshiba/Uni/Paramount are now. CE's would have stayed on board as long as it took to sell what they had in inventory and they would have scuttled any new players (much like Toshiba did). The only real sticking point would have been how quickly Columbia/Sony moved, Sony had more to lose than Toshiba did on this thing, especially tying the PS3 to a dead format.. it would have had a decent chance of taking the PS3 down with it, so they may have been slower than Toshiba has been. WB was the whole ballgame, everyone knew that before the deal went down that they would be the kingmaker in this thing.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
All I'm saying is, we wouldn't be here on February 15th waiting for Sony to announce a BD exit strategy if Warner had convinced Fox to move with them. We wouldn't have Netflix going HD DVD only, or Best Buy recommending HD DVD. We wouldn't be seeing 81/19 software ratios. Or every Euro distributor dumping the format.
Not this soon. Not even close.
Not this soon. Not even close.
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Ignatz Mouse
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I don't feel bad for anybody, really, but to respond to borghe:
Although players still work, and movies still work, and time spent was not wasted, it does mean that either people are going to eventually double-dip their titles to keep them in HD, or have a limited ability to play them back (on their legacy player only) for a long time to come, and they'll need to keep that legacy player working and hooked up. Or, give up the money they put into movies.
This is what kept me from getting even a cheap HD-DVD player-- spending money on movies. I considered the player+Netflix route, but by the time I was considering that, reports of high wait times were common (plus my own experience with Netfilx and BluRay). That, and it looked like the war might be ending.
When somebody says "I feel sorry for xxx" it's generally a veiled "nyah nyah" and I think it's appropriate to be annoyed at that. But on the other hand, for somebody to think that they'd have been disappointed or upset if they had spent money on the format is not wrong, even if you don't feel your money was wasted.
Although players still work, and movies still work, and time spent was not wasted, it does mean that either people are going to eventually double-dip their titles to keep them in HD, or have a limited ability to play them back (on their legacy player only) for a long time to come, and they'll need to keep that legacy player working and hooked up. Or, give up the money they put into movies.
This is what kept me from getting even a cheap HD-DVD player-- spending money on movies. I considered the player+Netflix route, but by the time I was considering that, reports of high wait times were common (plus my own experience with Netfilx and BluRay). That, and it looked like the war might be ending.
When somebody says "I feel sorry for xxx" it's generally a veiled "nyah nyah" and I think it's appropriate to be annoyed at that. But on the other hand, for somebody to think that they'd have been disappointed or upset if they had spent money on the format is not wrong, even if you don't feel your money was wasted.
gkrykewy said:
Thanks for the number.
They told me mine shipped yesterday and to give them 3-4 weeks max ship time.
I'm not convinced, I mean I sent that thing off in OCTOBER. I got a letter last month saying they ran out of my movies, and I would have to wait until Jan 31st for them to get them back in stock. Hopefully I get them in the next week or so, because as I understand it the center is in Texas.. so hopefully I get them quick.
Ignatz Mouse said:
Shouldnt feel sorry for anyone, everyone who bought into either format in the early days should have known this was a possibility, and if they weren't willing to deal with that, they should have stayed out of the war.
The only thing that irks me is Broadcom/Sammy now having their player up to the advertised specs. If that thing ever actually gets working in April/May like they say, I'm going to buy 2. Otherwise I am going to have to keep two players, which isn't really ideal.
Flo_Evans said:eh? wat happen?
I've been nerding over political threads... war is over?
Toshiba is going to formally end this thing in a few weeks. Which is in line with my expectations, Uni and Paramounts deals are set to expire soon, and Toshiba through sales of its players have likely moved alot of their inventory out of wharehouses, so they can end it pretty soon.
My biggest fear here is that movies like there will be blood will be canned on HDDVD and take a while to move over to BRD. Im not opposed to buying really good movied on HDDVD still.
borghe said:
How does that not make sense? I still see damn people at best buy buying HD-DVD players all the time. How is it a bad thing for them? Well yeah they still got to enjoy HD for how long it's been out, and yeah there players will still work! But how many times can you watch the same old movies over and over again? They invested into an HD format, and some people payed some SERIOUS money, and this HD format is now going to be gone. That money is pretty much to waste at this point, but I guess you don't get that? You'll probably argue it anyways. Put it this way, if I bought a ps3, and it really had failed, I would be so pissed.
StoOgE said:
Holy crap, I guess I shouldn't be expecting them soon. I never even got a letter, I sat on my rebate for about three weeks before I sent it in, sounds like a big mistake now.
I'm going to call in a bit, thanks for the number gkrykewy
edit: :lol I got told the EXACT same thing that StoOgE did
I guess we'll see huh
"Sir your movies were shipped out Feb 14th and to please allow 3-4 weeks for shipping, although they do not always take that long."
NO COMMENT!! from Toshiba UK:
http://whathifi.com/home-cinema/arc...culation-that-the-end-is-nigh-for-hd-dvd.aspx
Toshiba UK is refusing to comment on widespread speculation on the net that the company is just weeks away from pulling the plug on the HD DVD format.
A spokeswoman for the company's London PR agency, Nelson Bostock, told us: "We are aware of the speculation, but have no comment there is no information I can give you at the moment."
http://whathifi.com/home-cinema/arc...culation-that-the-end-is-nigh-for-hd-dvd.aspx
Toshiba UK is refusing to comment on widespread speculation on the net that the company is just weeks away from pulling the plug on the HD DVD format.
A spokeswoman for the company's London PR agency, Nelson Bostock, told us: "We are aware of the speculation, but have no comment there is no information I can give you at the moment."
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borghe said:
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YYZ said:
i blind-buy'd it on blu on tuesday, just watched it last night, and holy shit was it go. best thing i've seen since...dare i say...the departed?
DJ_Tet said:Holy crap, I guess I shouldn't be expecting them soon. I never even got a letter, I sat on my rebate for about three weeks before I sent it in, sounds like a big mistake now.
I'm going to call in a bit, thanks for the number gkrykewy
edit: :lol I got told the EXACT same thing that StoOgE did
I guess we'll see huh
"Sir your movies were shipped out Feb 14th and to please allow 3-4 weeks for shipping, although they do not always take that long."
That makes sense, actually. I've heard they send them in large batches. Hopefully we've all had ours ship yesterday.
really? out of all the examples you could choose from, you chose one of the most revered, best loved and still played defunct consoles today? I realize it was unintentional, but you pretty much just made my point completely. I would say well over half of the original dreamcast owners are STILL happy with that console purchase today. A for effort, but boy did you pick the wrong example to lead off with.Xisiqomelir said:
ummmm... why the hell are you buying movies if there are only so many times you can watch them? just rent them off of PPV/VOD/itunes in HD and then there are no startup costs for even a player? I'm assuming that people who are actually buying players and movies have the intent of watching the movies more than just one or two times. :\msdstc said:
borghe said:
I can tell you I wasn't happy?! I mean I still loved my dreamcast... I couldn't wait to see what was on the way. lemme tell ya after uncharted, R+C, and warhawk at the end of the year there I'm extremely excited for what's to come. If sony all of a sudden cut production on games I would feel awful, especially after the money I've invested. Not to mention these are GAMES we're talkin about. Movies are far shorter. HD-DVD fans only have the same exact library to choose from now on, where if they got blu-ray they'd not only have the same choices, but SO much more. That doesn't just include disney, fox, paramount, but also all the future releases of.... oh i dunno EVERY MOVIE?
The Main Event
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djkimothy said:
I expect Toshiba of America to make the same statement. It's only 8am PST on the west coast, their statement should probably appear at around 11-noon PST.
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Elios83 said:
WTF. I expected something like "no, this is not truth" or "there has been no such announcement from us" or "this is not in our plans" or something.
And they come up with this? "We have no comments"?? That is almost a confirmation... WTF!
msdstc said:
Most HD DVD buyers who are keeping, rather than returning, their players spent roughly $100-$150 for players, and bought movies at an average disc price (including free discs) of maybe $5-10. They (or at least I) will buy a BRD player of some sort reasonably soon and continue to enjoy HD movies. The combined cost of both players in this example will likely be the same or lower than if one had bought a BRD player or PS3 at a higher price at the outset.
It really isn't a big deal.
BoboBrazil
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WHAT WHAT
and this is most HD-DVD owners I have a feeling. I guess it just makes the blu-ray-only owners happier to envision HD-DVD owners fuming over their purchase throwing their players against the walls.gkrykewy said:
As long as I have my 360 hooked up and the add-on drive is working, there is absolutely no reason for me to replace me 25+ HD-DVD discs. And if/when that changes, I imagine everything I have now will be a catalog title able to be picked up for under $10-15 each when I get around to it.
Insane Metal
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:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lolSnaku said:
OMFG, this is already over. Stop the madness! :lol
speculawyer
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HD-DVD is deader than dead.
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speculawyer
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Yep. Me too. I have a PS3 and the 360 HD add-on. Any time there was a choice of formats, I would buy the Blu-Ray (such as planet Earth). However, I've bought some HD-DVDs when they were on sale. I look forward to an upcoming clearance sale on HD-DVD discs.borghe said:
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Although the end of the format war will help, I really don't think Blu-Ray is going to get a big bump in sales. Most consumers are not even aware there was a format war going on.Vyer said:
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