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[Ignatz Mouse]

Captive, give it up. He already explained that he sold the PS3 at a slight profit, and that the movie playback wasn't worth the price he paid/got.

Read the thread.

 

[Sanjuro]

news flash. YOU ALREADY OWNED IT.
Thats like me selling my brand new polk floorstanding and bookshelf speakers that im going to use for 7.1 because i want 7.1 surround sound and then coming in here and saying HAY GUYS, I WANT 7.1 BUT I JUST SOLD THE 6 SPEAKERS I JUST BOUGHT AND THAT I WAS GOING TO USE FOR 7.1. Yea there would be quite a few people calling me an idiot too.

How do you not see why people are having a problem with you?

YOU ALREADY PAID FOR A HIGH DEF PLAYER, and to top it off, you come into the "blu-ray/HD DVD: blu-ray takeover watch ask which format is selling better then when people tell you, you call them sony trolls in the "blu-ray takeover watch thread" AND THEN, as if you hadnt proved your self lacking in the intelligence department enough as it is, you then state that you want an HD DVD player, and couple that statement that you dont want to spend money on a format that has a good chance to fail.

Contradict yourself less, maybe people will take you seriously. Maybe you should keep drinking, at least you didnt contradict yourself in your last sentence, although i have no idea where you plan on picking up a 90 dollar hd dvd drive to addon to a 360, but whatever.

I never contradicted myself once in this thread.
I also didn't buy a BluRay player I purchased a Playstation 3 game console.
I also never asked which one was in the lead, I asked for numbers after hearing HD was picking up a little speed (which it has) in the following few months but it is still not very
close.
Also your analogy makes no sense. We are talking about two different formats sporting several different exclusive titles on each others format.
Also you are a sad Sony trolll. This thread is here for HD video discussion and on the war. I came in here not flaming or saying anything bad about either format. Maybe you should read my steamy erotic encounter with both formats a page or two back.

 

[ManaByte]

I never contradicted myself once in this thread.
I also didn't buy a BluRay player I purchased a Playstation 3 game console.
I also never asked which one was in the lead, I asked for numbers after hearing HD was picking up a little speed (which it has) in the following few months but it is still not very
close.
Also your analogy makes no sense. We are talking about two different formats sporting several different exclusive titles on each others format.
Also you are a sad Sony trolll. This thread is here for HD video discussion and on the war. I came in here not flaming or saying anything bad about either format. Maybe you should read my steamy erotic encounter with both formats a page or two back.

If you can get a 360 drive for $90, I say go for it.

 

[Sanjuro]

Captive, give it up. He already explained that he sold the PS3 at a slight profit, and that the movie playback wasn't worth the price he paid/got.

Read the thread.

At least some people are rationalizing what I'm saying. If 360 had a BluRay addon and the PS3 had HDDVD I would have my situation reversed. I think both formats are fantastic and that its a shame this war is going to go on for some time.

My only true knock against Sony's BluRay is that its Sony. I'm not a big fan of buying porn movies, but I don't like the idea of Sony controlling the medium with what they think should and shouldn't be on it. If sometime down the road people bootleg it (ala Nintendo. Bible Adventures/Tengen) will be intresting to see.

 

[Ryu1999]

My only true knock against Sony's BluRay is that its Sony. I'm not a big fan of buying porn movies, but I don't like the idea of Sony controlling the medium with what they think should and shouldn't be on it. If sometime down the road people bootleg it (ala Nintendo. Bible Adventures/Tengen) will be intresting to see.

They don't, too much FUD out there. The whole porn thing needs to be aired out (again: Sony only had a say in preventing porn from being pressed at their fabricators. obviously it hasn't stopped Vivid from putting out the Blu-ray version of Debbie Does Dallas or whatever

 

[Sanjuro]

They don't, too much FUD out there. The whole porn thing needs to be aired out (again: Sony only had a say in preventing porn from being pressed at their fabricators. obviously it hasn't stopped Vivid from putting out the Blu-ray version of Debbie Does Dallas or whatever

Ok. Last I heard it had somthing to do with the patent that nobody else could duplicate. But I didn't think of evntual coming of mass BluRay burners which anyone could easily eBay a HK version of almost anything.

 

[Suikoguy]

My only true knock against Sony's BluRay is that its Sony. I'm not a big fan of buying porn movies, but I don't like the idea of Sony controlling the medium with what they think should and shouldn't be on it. If sometime down the road people bootleg it (ala Nintendo. Bible Adventures/Tengen) will be intresting to see.

So THAT is your reason.. if only that was true :lol
Companies can produce porn for blu-ray if they want, Sony just won't produce the discs on their facilities.
As for reason, nothing like a batch of Disney DVDs with Porn inside to piss customers and Disney off.

 

[Raistlin]

I never contradicted myself once in this thread.
I also didn't buy a BluRay player I purchased a Playstation 3 game console.

slapforhead.gif.



for the love of god ...

 

[Raistlin]

My only true knock against Sony's BluRay is that its Sony. I'm not a big fan of buying porn movies, but I don't like the idea of Sony controlling the medium with what they think should and shouldn't be on it. If sometime down the road people bootleg it (ala Nintendo. Bible Adventures/Tengen) will be intresting to see.

1) The porn thing isn't even true ... it's FUD.

2) You just admitted you are a troll and wonder why people are telling you to stfu?!?




Oh yeah ... stfu

 

[Sanjuro]

1) The porn thing isn't even true ... it's FUD.

2) You just admitted you are a troll and wonder why people are telling you to stfu?!?




Oh yeah ... stfu

HAHAHAHA I'm seriously getting a kick out of you fools. This is pretty pathetic defense force right here.

 

[Omar Ismail]

Not quite. A significant difference between the Betamax vs VHS faceoff and this one is that there was no existing market for prerecorded video content then, but there's obviously a huge market for it now. There isn't nearly the same kind of pioneering effort required here, esp. when you can piggyback on market progress thus far via backward compatability and a host of established business models.

I do agree that the market is supremely different now, but that's also my point. From what the guy was saying, Betamax started off as being centered around time shifting television programs. And it wasn't until a few years later when people started renting movies with VHS that the market changed. Then Laserdisc started to come onto the scene and Sony figured that would take over the rental scene due to superior quality, and the major point for VHS would be gone and time shifting would be the big factor and well, that didn't happen of course.

So that's entirely the issue, the market CAN change, and factors that determine success for one format can be completely flipped on its ear with a totally new set of rules. Heck, a lot of people will say we're already seeing that in the video game market. Of course HD-DVD and BR are so similar that any market changes affecting one format would affect the other. Frankly speaking, my bias for a long while has been towards the digital distribution realm. So kind of like how you have 360/PS3 versus Wii, you have BR/HD-DVD versus DD.

And when i talk about decades I'm talking about a global perspective. Have any of you people been to a developing country that is not in asia? Places like Africa and the Middle East, probably Central America as well are still largely VHS based. It wasn't until 2002 that beta was completely removed from the global market.

 

[methane47]

My only true knock against Sony's BluRay is that its Sony. I'm not a big fan of buying porn movies, but I don't like the idea of Sony controlling the medium with what they think should and shouldn't be on it. If sometime down the road people bootleg it (ala Nintendo. Bible Adventures/Tengen) will be intresting to see.

Ok. Last I heard it had somthing to do with the patent that nobody else could duplicate. But I didn't think of evntual coming of mass BluRay burners which anyone could easily eBay a HK version of almost anything.

 

[Crayon Shinchan]

My only true knock against Sony's BluRay is that its Sony.

Thanks for been honest and all. But that's the kind of shit that turns you into a discredited goon.


But then again, if you quiz a lot of staunch HD-DVD supporters, that's the inane reasoning a lot of them will come up with for not supporting Bluray Disc.

On the otherhand, I think you'd be extremely hard pressed to find many Bluray supporters that say: Oh I don't like HD-DVD, because I hate Universal, or because I hate Toshiba.

Maybe some will say they don't like Microsoft; but if they're saying that, it means they have half a clue what's going on.



For me, it's not I don't like HD-DVD. It's simply; support for Blu-ray because: It's got the best chance of uniting HD media format, and as a result, making HD media a success.

I don't view companies anthropomorphically and ascribe the human traits. I don't think companies betray me or some such tripe. I may or may not approve of their business tactics, but in the end; it's business. The shit they do flies only as long as consumers are throwing money at them.

 

[Sanjuro]

Seriously look at this?! Incredible. I post information I heard a while ago that doesn't impact my BluRay choice and post a reply stating I was misinformed.

Then i get this...

OMFG!#>? Ppost teh NUB pics! HE thREW AWAyz his PS3 becauzer if the LULZ.Q

 

[StoOgE]

Captive has this interesting way of trying to invalidate opinions. Its really kinda fun to watch.

YOUR OPINION IS WRONG. YOU REACHED THE WRONG PERSONAL DECISION. THINK LIKE ME. RAAAWWRRR.

 

[fossen]

BD 300 for $9.99

Blu ray link

Edit: HD DVD version for $14.99
HD DVD version

Knew I should have taken advantage of this yesterday.

 

[djkimothy]

Knew I should have taken advantage of this yesterday.

Well, apparently it was corrected.

 

[Sanjuro]

Captive has this interesting way of trying to invalidate opinions. Its really kinda fun to watch.

YOUR OPINION IS WRONG. YOU REACHED THE WRONG PERSONAL DECISION. THINK LIKE ME. RAAAWWRRR.

Like I said before I'm baffled by this whole demeanor of people.

I never said I hated Sony as well. Nintendo did the same practice during the NES days and when I read about it I felt the same way. I don't think any type of support should be blocked from a mainstream format. Now I know why I have all those ugly black cartridges. =(

 

[djkimothy]

Like I said before I'm baffled by this whole demeanor of people.

I never said I hated Sony as well. Nintendo did the same practice during the NES days and when I read about it I felt the same way. I don't think any type of support should be blocked from a mainstream format. Now I know why I have all those ugly black cartridges. =(

Can you explain this?

My only true knock against Sony's BluRay is that its Sony.

 

[Sanjuro]

Can you explain this?

You didn't read the quote you posted first apparently.

If I disagree with a companies policy on somthing like that who is to blame? It would be....Sony?

 

[heavy liquid]

nm.

 

[djkimothy]

nm.

I feel the same way.

 

[Crayon Shinchan]

You didn't read the quote you posted first apparently.

If I disagree with a companies policy on somthing like that who is to blame? It would be....Sony?

Sure, Sony doesn't replicate porn in Blu-ray. But you may also want to blame yourself for been misinformed; they don't ban any other replicators from pressing porno discs; they as a company simply control what they can within their own boundaries. They don't make unilateral decisions for the rest of the BDA.

Compared to Universal's ploy* to milk the crap out of HD-DVD supporters, before ditching it so they can double dip in a new market, that kinda stuff seems pretty mild IMO.

*of course, you'll never get an official word or confirmation until it happens; but if you assume Universal are rational agents, then this is probably the most reasonable explanation of why they're doing what they're doing.

 

[Sanjuro]

Sure, Sony doesn't replicate porn in Blu-ray. But you may also want to blame yourself for been misinformed; they don't ban any other replicators from pressing porno discs; they as a company simply control what they can within their own boundaries. They don't make unilateral decisions for the rest of the BDA.

Compared to Universal's ploy* to milk the crap out of HD-DVD supporters, before ditching it so they can double dip in a new market, that kinda stuff seems pretty mild IMO.

*of course, you'll never get an official word or confirmation until it happens; but if you assume Universal are rational agents, then this is probably the most reasonable explanation of why they're doing what they're doing.

I already stated in 2-4 or so posts that I was misinformed and followed up..

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

Sanjuro, you're officially an ass.

You're miliking the "poor me I was victimized when I asked an innocent question" thing and yet you're just trolling. Fools like you, I have no time for. I'm sorry I ever bothered to explain to the bait-able what you were getting at originally.

Just **** off.

 

[Crayon Shinchan]

I already stated in 2-4 or so posts that I was misinformed and followed up..

With this?

You didn't read the quote you posted first apparently.

If I disagree with a companies policy on somthing like that who is to blame? It would be....Sony?

So you know you're wrong. You just don't care.

 

[Sanjuro]

Sanjuro, you're officially an ass.

You're miliking the "poor me I was victimized when I asked an innocent question" thing and yet you're just trolling. Fools like you, I have no time for. I'm sorry I ever bothered to explain to the bait-able what you were getting at originally.

Just **** off.

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You guys are something else. This is great. It would be more entertaining for me if I actually hated a particular format...but what do I know you all make the decisions.

With this?



So you know you're wrong. You just don't care.

holy shit! :lol

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

You guys are something else. This is great. It would be more entertaining for me if I actually hated a particular format...but what do I know you all make the decisions.


holy shit! :lol

Who said you hated a format? You're just a trolling ass. "You guys are wack! I'm just a victim here!"

 

[methane47]

Seriously look at this?! Incredible. I post information I heard a while ago that doesn't impact my BluRay choice and post a reply stating I was misinformed.

Then i get this...

OMFG!#>? Ppost teh NUB pics! HE thREW AWAyz his PS3 becauzer if the LULZ.Q

Dont worry Sanjuro... I totally understand your point..

It makes total sense to think that the best (arguably) Bluray player doesn't play as well as the HD-DVD add-on.. So you sold the PS3 which is a game console with great games coming out... So that you could make enough cash to buy a $90 hd-dvd addon.. which you didn't have enough money for (good thing you made a $20 profit off the ps3 ...whew)...

And plus why the hell do you need the support of most of hollywood and for that matter most of the movie industry? ALL you need is batman and TMNT... which are on HD-DVD.. (and coming to Bluray).. It makes total sense...

If I had a ps3 for cheaper than It will be for the next 2 years and had the chance of buying a HD-DVD player for about the cost that they will be in December.... I would sell my ps3 and buy an HD-dvd player as well..

 

[Sanjuro]

Who said you hated a format? You're just a trolling ass. "You guys are wack! I'm just a victim here!"

I have a FAMILY to support! :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

Both formats fail anyway. I have Comcast on Demand HD! :lol

 

[jjasper]

I have decided that this thread is sucking right now

 

[djkimothy]

I have decided that this thread is sucking right now

Seriously... It's just a slow news day.

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

I heard from my cousin in the industry that Universal has a bunch of titles ready to release on BluRay just as soon as their exclusivity contract is up.

Spoiler

How's that?

 

[The Main Event]

This thread became this just because one guy decided that he wanted to sell his PS3 and get the HD DVD add-on.

Hilarious.

 

[Sanjuro]

This thread became this just because one guy decided that he wanted to sell his PS3 and get the HD DVD add-on.

Hilarious.

Hey. I'm THAT guy!

 

[djkimothy]

This thread became this just because one guy decided that he wanted to sell his PS3 and get the HD DVD add-on.

Hilarious.

It's the reasoning that doesn't make sense and has flame bait written all over it. I can use that term here can i?

 

[DarienA]

Sanjuro you've given this thread the stench of death. Kudos.

 

[Crayon Shinchan]

This thread became this just because one guy decided that he wanted to sell his PS3 and get the HD DVD add-on.

Hilarious.

You know what's hilarious?

The guy wanting a cheap PS3 and a cheap HD movie player, selling his PS3 that he got cheaply, and then picking up a cheaper, but crappier HD movie player add-on!

I don't know. If it's a cash flow thing, fair enough. But if it's a cashflow thing... is the guy really in a position to be picking up HD movie players, no matter how cheap?

 

[djkimothy]

Time to get on track...

I wasn't going to post this as this is more anedoctal and it comes from AVS but the Sony BDP-3000 has been spotted at TechDepot for $425.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=858062

The Sony BDP-S300 has been spotted at Tech Depot (Office Depot's Retail Outlet) for $425. Being that a reputable retailer is slashing so much off the MSRP, it bodes well that other retailers will follow suit.

Amazon has the closest competition to this player on the HD DVD side, the Toshiba HD-A20, for $385.

 

[Sanjuro]

It's the reasoning that doesn't make sense and has flame bait written all over it. I can use that term here can i?

Alright I'm going to try and calm down from all this laughter again...

There is nothing wrong with the reasoning. I had a good friend, he wanted a PS3, I had a PS3 that has been barely used, sold it to him, TMNT is coming out on all formats, I want to buy a HD device to watch it, I'll also be able to use HDDVD on my Mac or PC.

**** I might even get a PS3 again. I'm not opposed to it. However there are no games coming out soon that intrest me. 360 has everything I want to play in the next several months. I liked the PS3 and its potential....but it was grey with dust not shiny black anymore so did a friend a favor. Seriously all this flaming I got is simply because I wanted to get TMNT. I'm so sorry.

 

[methane47]

This thread became this just because one guy decided that he wanted to sell his PS3 and get the HD DVD add-on.

Hilarious.

I think it's more because the reasoning is just retarded.... It doesn't make any sense.. and the more he tries to explain himself .. the less sense it holds..

In fact I doubt the guy ever had a ps3.... Or maybe he's one of those people that bought a PS3 and bashed it for its inability to play HD-DVD's

EDIT: Wow.. the post above me is what the guy should have originally posted... That actually clears everything up for me..

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

The flurry isn't because of what Sajuro decided (which asd I see, was rational at one level) but rather his umbrage at the response.

GO figure people with more interest in the format consider that an unwise decision. Live with it, Sanjuro, but give up the innocent puppy act.

 

[rubso]

Alright I'm going to try and calm down from all this laughter again...

There is nothing wrong with the reasoning. I had a good friend, he wanted a PS3, I had a PS3 that has been barely used, sold it to him, TMNT is coming out on all formats, I want to buy a HD device to watch it, I'll also be able to use HDDVD on my Mac or PC.

**** I might even get a PS3 again. I'm not opposed to it. However there are no games coming out soon that intrest me. 360 has everything I want to play in the next several months. I liked the PS3 and its potential....but it was grey with dust not shiny black anymore so did a friend a favor. Seriously all this flaming I got is simply because I wanted to get TMNT. I'm so sorry.

buy TMNT on HD-DVD, dude, It's up to you, just don't talk about it here, or you'll be killed instantly cause you're buying an HD-DVD movie.

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

buy TMNT on HD-DVD, dude, It's up to you, just don't talk about it here, or you'll be killed instantly cause you're buying an HD-DVD movie.

More "poor me" talk....

Oh, Rubso.... no more PBF gifs about how abused you are? Too many tears to use photoshop?


If HD-DVD's marketing is targeting whiners, I'm surprised they are doing better in the market.

 

[Sanjuro]

I think it's more because the reasoning is just retarded.... It doesn't make any sense.. and the more he tries to explain himself .. the less sense it holds..

In fact I doubt the guy ever had a ps3.... Or maybe he's one of those people that bought a PS3 and bashed it for its inability to play HD-DVD's

The flurry isn't because of what Sajuro decided (which asd I see, was rational at one level) but rather his umbrage at the response.

GO figure people with more interest in the format consider that an unwise decision. Live with it, Sanjuro, but give up the innocent puppy act.

You are both really foolish. You obviously don't know how high I regard BluRay and understand its longevity.

You know what...I'll put you morons to the test. Call 508-999-9663. Its the number for Blockbuster Video in Fairhaven, MA. I work there. Ask them what high definition movies they carry? If you get the manager or someone who knows somthing ask them which employee reccomended which format we should carry. Such damn fools. I'm Andrew btw.

Plus don't be jerks about the number. Just have one person call. I'm honestly doing this to get some stability in this thread. There is no reason for the attitude I'm getting here. Not one bit.

 

[SRG01]

Time to get on track...

I wasn't going to post this as this is more anedoctal and it comes from AVS but the Sony BDP-3000 has been spotted at TechDepot for $425.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=858062

Oh nice. If there's a nice bundle with this player, I might just pick it up.

 

[rubso]

More "poor me" talk....

Oh, Rubso.... no more PBF gifs about how abused you are? Too many tears to use photoshop?


If HD-DVD's marketing is targeting whiners, I'm surprised they are doing better in the market.

wait, I want to watch HD-DVDs, what should i do, Ignatz?

 

[Crayon Shinchan]

However there are no games coming out soon that intrest me.

Didn't you buy a PS3 for MGS4? Fair enough you did your friend a favour, but mate; inconsistencies like that is what stirs shit up. You say you bought it for MGS4, then turn around and say, there's nothing coming out that interests you. AFAIK, MGS4 is still scheduled for a 2007 release.

 

[Sanjuro]

Didn't you buy a PS3 for MGS4? Fair enough you did your friend a favour, but mate; inconsistencies like that is what stirs shit up. You say you bought it for MGS4, then turn around and say, there's nothing coming out that interests you. AFAIK, MGS4 is still scheduled for a 2007 release.

I have no idea when it will come out. But you can be guarenteed that I will be purchasing a PS3 with that title. If I purchased a HD-DVD add-on would be sold shortly after or at same time.

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

wait, I want to watch HD-DVDs, what should i do, Ignatz?

Turn on your TV and get off the internet, duh.