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Hideaki Itsuno apoligizes for his game not being at E3.
- Thread starter jbug617
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Hell yes, refine that shit until I can see myself on it.
"Gimme the meth, bitch!"
lmfaooooooooooooooo
Son Of Sparda
Member
Yep. When it comes to the actual development and release schedule of the game, I want them to give Itsuno as much time and resources as he needs. There is no rush to get this game out early.
Eolz
Member
Only things I can find back are
http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/news/html/e150911.html
and them talking about DD2 before DDO was revealed.
As well as a french article that mixed both, but I don't count that.
So you can say I'm misreading it, but there's no confirmation either way. Everything leads to believing that DD2 is DDO (especially since most of the gameplay is similar, and they're still developing it, both for the game itself and for the west).
Could there be another DD more single player focused someday? Sure, but nothing is showing that.
Zero rush to get this game out. They don't need it out any time soon.
leatherhat
Member
If its DMC5 he is forgiven.
dragonzdogma
Member
Mass Effect
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POST E3
ITSUNO TWEET - Round 2
Thanks for reminding me how much better this trailer was than the final game
Thing is that you said to me and other people that are hoping for Dragon's Dogma 2 that this is definitely not happening. And that is definitely not what what any of that says.
Unlike for your denial that it won't happen, we actually have Itsuno on record that he wants to do Dragon's Dogma 2. (and DMC5)
http://www.dualshockers.com/dragons...ps4-also-rival-schools-3-and-devil-may-cry-5/
Yes theoretically you could argue that this then turned into DDO, but i doubt it, since he cleary talks about a very ambitious game for the new Generation and DDO is basically a reuse of old material developed originally for PS3 without Itsuno. The Dark Arisen team started working on it directly after the Dark Arisen release.
Don't get me wrong, chances are 90% DMC 5 and 10% at best for DD2, i'm well aware of that. But the point is that all those countless times you were claiming they had been saying DDO is DD2 and there will be no DD2 just did not happen, so you can stop telling that to people that hope for it.
DangerMouse
Member
POST E3
ITSUNO TWEET - Round 2
Nice.
Son Of Sparda
Member
If this is DMC5 and if it is a PSX announcement, then I wonder if we get a secret panel or something, with Itsuno talking about the game. That fighting game panel that we got back in 2015 was a really fun one, so hopefully we'll get something similar for DMC5.
If it is at PSX.
DriftingSpirit
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Astral Dog
Member
If only thats what they said, PR for DmC was a mess because they could have treated it as a different take/universe while Itsuno tries other things.
Instead we had the reboot/prequel/reimagining/west!/japanese bar circus we had to endure :/
Chaos2Frozen
Member
I'm okay with Dragon's Dogma 2
Edit: a thought occurred to me- maybe Itsuno was brought in to salvage Deep Down?
Son Of Sparda
Member
No need to feel sorry man.
The reason that Itsuno sent this tweet in the first place was because after E3, a lot of DMC fans bombered his twitter with "where was DMC5?", "DMC is dead" and other similar tweets. I know that because I was one of them and I followed those comments closely, in hope of Itsuno responding to any of them. So the
Part, is pretty much a direct response to those comments.
For who? Sony? Just like E3 2017, it might have been lackluster compared to the previous year, but we did have a bunch of new informations and trailers for important games: Nioh and Nier Automata release dates, new Gravity Rush 2 trailer, new KH 2.8 trailer, etc. Do you remember Sony TGS 2015? They had a a lot of new games announcements, same thing happened at E3 2016 (2nd year of dreams).
After what happened with E3 2017 (focused on providing informations for already announced games), it's been 2 years since they had some major new announcements so I wonder if Sony TGS 2017 will have new games to reveal?
darkslayer101
Member
lol did not know about fans bombarding his twitter.
That is almost a pseudo confirmation imo
Son Of Sparda
Member
Oh yeah, people were very disappointed with the fact that the game wasn't at E3. Some of the comments were even.... a bit too passionate.
AgentLampshade
Member
Yeah I've never liked the idea of bombarding a guys twitter because the game we think he's working on didn't show up.
Monster Hunter World uses MT, and that's the newest game for Capcom's biggest money maker. I could definitely see a new DMC using MT, since it'd be a way to save money and time as the team already has experience with the engine.
It's gonna depend what kind of framerate Itsuno is targeting for his new game (which I'm far from convinced it's a new DMC). If it's 30fps he can use UE4 no problem, any higher than that and that engine seems to struggle on consoles unless you're a fighting game, and even then SFV had to make compromises. If it's 60fps I don't see it happening. Maybe they'll use MT again like you said.
Thankfully it will probably come out on PC whatever it is, so it's a moot point for me.
Son Of Sparda
Member
And imo it doesn't look that good. Visually, MHW looks a lot like a PS3 game.
Allonym
There should be more tampons in gaming
I'm hoping that from here on out Capcom either uses UE4 or a proprietary engine that is helped along by some accomplished studio. I don't know what ultimately came of the Panta Rhei engine but it looked really nice and the dragon featured in the Deep Down co-op demonstration looked more impressive than the T-Rex and Rathalos in MHW, although I do think it looks good.
Sorcerer Supreme
Member
don't care itsuno is a god. he can direct anything and i'll play it.
Whatever the game is, I just want it to be a fresh new experience. I don't want anything recycled from previous Capcom games. If it does end up being a Devil May Cry game, I'd much rather they don't recycle the Alastor/Force Edge/Rebellion, Ifrit/Beowulf/Gilgamesh, and other devil arms. And if those devil arms do come back, give us completely new animations and movesets for those weapons.
If it's a new IP, that'd be the best case scenario for me.
If it's a new IP, that'd be the best case scenario for me.
Son Of Sparda
Member
Yeah, they either have to use UE4 or go for RE engine (if it is capable of supporting a fast paced action stylish game like DMC5).
Either way, as much as love MT it's not an engine that they should use for current gen titles.
Eolz
Member
Son Of Sparda
Member
And it looks unimpressive.They're using it for MH World
I think they might've ditched Panda Rhei engine probably due to cost and lack of implementation, otherwise we would've seen at least one game made on it since it's announcement. They clearly scaling back and restructuring, that's why they 're going with their safest bet, MT Framework, an engine doesn't cost them anything to develop on, because it was already there.
Fun fact is that MT Framework is actually an updated Onimusha 3 engine, and still in 2017 they are making games using it. For games like DMC it works really well in those closed environments with pre-baked lighting and effects, but for open world games, when we have seen titles like Horizon, to still use MT as your main dev engine is just unacceptable when you have Panda Rhei there sitting with zero games using it.
Fun fact is that MT Framework is actually an updated Onimusha 3 engine, and still in 2017 they are making games using it. For games like DMC it works really well in those closed environments with pre-baked lighting and effects, but for open world games, when we have seen titles like Horizon, to still use MT as your main dev engine is just unacceptable when you have Panda Rhei there sitting with zero games using it.
Allonym
There should be more tampons in gaming
Do we know what happened with Panta Rhei? Is it completely abandoned and if it indeed is, was any of it salvaged and brought to the RE Engine?
Son Of Sparda
Member
I don't think anyone really knows. IIRC The last time we officially heard anything new about that engine and Deep Down was back in early 2015, when they said that they are changing their vision for the game.