Well that's because of how frequently the presidency switches parties, especially after a two term president.
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Hillary Clinton Selects Tim Kaine As VP
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Well that's because of how frequently the presidency switches parties, especially after a two term president.
Ether_Snake
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In a week, people will say they love him, great pick.
And it's a good pick indeed, needed to bring undecided voters in.
And it's a good pick indeed, needed to bring undecided voters in.
Dash_Riprock
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Let's see him in action. I'm thinking back to when everyone was shitting on Obama for picking Biden.
From what I've heard it was certainly true for his first term. After that not so much.
From what I've heard it was certainly true for his first term. After that not so much.
Souldriver
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Not left enough.
DeathoftheEndless
Crashing this plane... with no survivors!
They're merely exchanging long-protein strings. If you can think of a simpler way, I'd like to hear it.
Yeah, no one is going to be inspired to vote by either VP candidate (maybe Virginians?).
Your Entertainer
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He's fine
DontBeThatGuy
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He's certainly not my ideal choice, but whatever, it's not an issue.
FelixOrion
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She should have picked John Cena
Hasphat'sAnts
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Cornel West would've been the logical choice IMO.
A Human Becoming
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Besides being a solid choice if the 2.0% Veep home state bump is true this will give Hillary some breathing room in Virginia. She's been polling fairly well there but it hasn't been a slam dunk.
Yeah, but this time one of them doesn't have a penis.
Donald is anything but pasty.
And_Gignac
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Really boring and super safe VP picks from both sides.
I'm like 99% sure he's against the death penalty and has a similar stance on abortion that Biden does (not for it personally but doesn't feel it's the government's place to say what women can do with their bodies).
Souldriver
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Good pick.
Well that's good.
I'll look into his record, views and career. Don't know anything about the man.
ExplodingKetchup
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He's really not that bad. From his wiki page:
"Kaine practiced law in Richmond for 17 years, specializing in fair housing law and representing clients discriminated against on the basis of race or disability"
"Kaine was a support of Project Exile, a "controversial but effective program" that shifted gun crimes to federal court, where armed defendants faced harsher sentences. The effort "won broad political support" and helped the city drop its homicide rate by 55% over Kaine's tenure in office"
"In July 2013, Kaine was named chairman of the United States Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee on Near East, South Asia, Central Asia and Counterterrorism."
"Kaine, a Roman Catholic, is personally against abortion,[117][118] but is "largely inclined to keep the law out of women's reproductive decisions."[117] Kaine has said: "I have a traditional Catholic personal position, but I am very strongly supportive that women should make these decisions and government shouldn't intrude. I'm a strong supporter of Roe v. Wade and women being able to make these decisions."
"In 2007, as governor, Kaine cut off state funding for abstinence-only sex education programs, citing studies which showed that such programs were ineffective, while comprehensive sex education programs were more effective.[123] A Kaine spokesman indicated that Kaine believes that both abstinence and contraceptives must be taught, and that education should be evidence-based.[123]"
"In March 2013, Kaine announced his support of same-sex marriage,[142] saying "I believe all people, regardless of sexual orientation, should be guaranteed the full rights to the legal benefits and responsibilities of marriage under the Constitution."[143]
In the Senate, Kaine has co-sponsored the Employment Non-Discrimination Act, which would bar employment discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation.[144]"
However - he does support fracking, coal (not surprising bc Virginia is coal heavy), and TPP.
"Kaine practiced law in Richmond for 17 years, specializing in fair housing law and representing clients discriminated against on the basis of race or disability"
"Kaine was a support of Project Exile, a "controversial but effective program" that shifted gun crimes to federal court, where armed defendants faced harsher sentences. The effort "won broad political support" and helped the city drop its homicide rate by 55% over Kaine's tenure in office"
"In July 2013, Kaine was named chairman of the United States Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee on Near East, South Asia, Central Asia and Counterterrorism."
"Kaine, a Roman Catholic, is personally against abortion,[117][118] but is "largely inclined to keep the law out of women's reproductive decisions."[117] Kaine has said: "I have a traditional Catholic personal position, but I am very strongly supportive that women should make these decisions and government shouldn't intrude. I'm a strong supporter of Roe v. Wade and women being able to make these decisions."
"In 2007, as governor, Kaine cut off state funding for abstinence-only sex education programs, citing studies which showed that such programs were ineffective, while comprehensive sex education programs were more effective.[123] A Kaine spokesman indicated that Kaine believes that both abstinence and contraceptives must be taught, and that education should be evidence-based.[123]"
"In March 2013, Kaine announced his support of same-sex marriage,[142] saying "I believe all people, regardless of sexual orientation, should be guaranteed the full rights to the legal benefits and responsibilities of marriage under the Constitution."[143]
In the Senate, Kaine has co-sponsored the Employment Non-Discrimination Act, which would bar employment discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation.[144]"
However - he does support fracking, coal (not surprising bc Virginia is coal heavy), and TPP.
Pence is crazy he's just "safe" compared to... Trump himself.
Kyleripman
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I mean I wish he wasn't "strongly against animal rights" but they've certainly got my vote.
Hasphat'sAnts
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What, the first Orange to run for president's not ground breaking enough for you?
metalslimer
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While we're talking about all of these policies that he's had exactly what policy is he going to be writing. Warren would have been exciting, but in the Senate she can actually draft policy
There was thread where he signed on to a letter for a specific form of regulation to be changed and no one who was freaking out could provide a good reason why it was bad.
There was thread where he signed on to a letter for a specific form of regulation to be changed and no one who was freaking out could provide a good reason why it was bad.
jack_package_200
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I dunno. Pence is just as if not more representative of Trump.
Hillary never lies.
Only if you either DIDN'T actually read the OP of that thread. Or can't.
Chie Satonaka
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I know literally nothing about this man.
I guess I have some research to do.
I guess I have some research to do.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Obama supports TPP for god's sake and I don't see liberals giving him shit.
ThreePiMatt
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I'm sure Cory Booker will get his chance in the future.
It's likely not going to matter if/when Obama pushes it through during the post-election lame duck period.
His time is coming!
From what I've heard reported Clinton and her team are fans of Booker and if he had a slightly longer resume they could very well have gone with him instead. It just came down to experience is all. Kaine's got it in spades.
Only if you didn't read any further than the bullshit OP that got the poster juniored.
Perfect Blue
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It's actually a myth that Cheney was the puppet master pulling the strings of Dubya. One of those things that sounds like it makes sense but it's not really true. Dubya was always the one in charge.You have no clue what you're talking about.
Good Job Bob
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Gonna get some phenomenal sleep on the night of the VP debate.
Nate Cohn
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I'm old enough to remember when Kaine was a liberal who won a red state. Now he's seen as moderate, pro-wall st., incarceration sellout. I'm 27!
Mindy Finn
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Kaine is a smart pick for Clinton. Appeals to the risk averse in a chaotic election. Former Gov, current Sen, from a newish battleground.
Nate Silver
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(quoting the above tweet) Agree with this. Making a "safe" choice became more obvious as Trump has tilted even more toward demagoguery.
Paul Begala
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Think of every quality @realDonaldTrump lacks, and that's @timkaine: decent, smart, strong, principled, understated, empathetic, humble.
‏@Nate_Cohn
I'm old enough to remember when Kaine was a liberal who won a red state. Now he's seen as moderate, pro-wall st., incarceration sellout. I'm 27!
Mindy Finn
‏@mindyfinn
Kaine is a smart pick for Clinton. Appeals to the risk averse in a chaotic election. Former Gov, current Sen, from a newish battleground.
Nate Silver
‏@NateSilver538
(quoting the above tweet) Agree with this. Making a "safe" choice became more obvious as Trump has tilted even more toward demagoguery.
Paul Begala
‏@PaulBegala
Think of every quality @realDonaldTrump lacks, and that's @timkaine: decent, smart, strong, principled, understated, empathetic, humble.
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