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Hillary Clinton Thanks Ronald Reagan for AIDS Actions

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ApharmdX

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I had to check and make sure it wasn't April 1st already.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-nancy-reagan-aids-activism_us_56e31770e4b0b25c9181e002?ir=Politics&section=us_politics&utm_hp_ref=politics

Clinton said:

It may be hard for your viewers to remember how difficult it was for people to talk about HIV/AIDS back in the 1980s. And because of both President and Mrs. Reagan -- in particular Mrs. Reagan -- we started a national conversation. When before nobody would talk about it, nobody wanted to do anything about it, and that too is something that I really appreciate with her very effective, low key advocacy but it penetrated the public conscious and people began to say, 'Hey, we have to do something about this too.

Here's the video.

Is she talking about this Ronald Reagan? The same guy who didn't address AIDS for half a decade, after it was already a major problem?

These comments are really beyond the pale.

Nancy Reagan wouldn't even help a dying Rock Hudson.

Update:

Hillary apologizes and says that she "misspoke".
 

Days like these...

Have a Blessed Day
Was about to post this. Disgusting really why is she romanticizing/retconning what they did (or didn't do as it were) for aids victims. I'm not even sure who she is pandering to?
 
https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/708403247795539968

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Not that it excuses the original statement.
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Ugh, really? Guess I'm voting for Trump.

In all seriousness, I wonder what she was thinking. I assume it was some kind of mental gaffe.
 

noshten

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Just to provide further information for those unfamiliar:


The Reagan administration was horrible on AIDS

Identifying Nancy Reagan as a progressive force inside the Reagan administration on AIDS may be accurate, but it's also setting the bar profoundly low. The reason there was no national conversation on AIDS before the Reagan administration is that literally nobody had ever been diagnosed with AIDS before Reagan took office.

When AIDS was initially identified in the early 1980s, a range of public officials stepped into action. As Laura Helmuth wrote in 2014:

Some people did behave nobly. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention was on it from the very beginning, with research, new surveillance programs, and prompt and clear updates and reports. A year after the first recognition of AIDS, Rep. Henry Waxman held a congressional hearing on the crisis and directed AIDS funding to the National Institutes of Health. (We’re really going to miss that guy when he retires at the end of this term.) The surgeon general pushed for sex education and mailed a frank report to every household in the country on how AIDS is and isn’t transmitted. San Francisco established new clinics and a model for how to care for AIDS patients. The Shanti Project, Gay Men’s Health Crisis, ACT UP, and other groups advocated for better treatment, faster testing, and more funding. People cared for the sick and dying. Afterward they sewed panels for the AIDS Quilt, the most heartbreaking memorial in the history of human civilization.

During these early years of the crisis, the White House's main reaction was to literally laugh off questions about whether anything should be done. Here's a 1982 exchange between a journalist and White House Press Secretary Larry Speakes:

Q: Larry, does the President have any reaction to the announcement—the Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta, that AIDS is now an epidemic and have over 600 cases?

MR. SPEAKES: What’s AIDS?

Q: Over a third of them have died. It’s known as "gay plague." (Laughter.) No, it is. I mean it’s a pretty serious thing that one in every three people that get this have died. And I wondered if the President is aware of it?

MR. SPEAKES: I don’t have it. Do you? (Laughter.)

Q: No, I don’t.

MR. SPEAKES: You didn’t answer my question.

Q: Well, I just wondered, does the President—

MR. SPEAKES: How do you know? (Laughter.)

Q: In other words, the White House looks on this as a great joke?

MR. SPEAKES: No, I don’t know anything about it, Lester.

By 1985, Reagan finally said the word "AIDS" in response to a question at a press conference, and in 1987 he addressed it in a speech. Those small concessions, as well as some funding for research into the disease, came as a result of tireless advocacy and activism work from a range of groups that eventually forced the White House's hand.

Nancy Reagan was, it seems, relatively more open to those activists' arguments than many other key players in the Reagan administration. But the fact that Clinton would point to Ronald and Nancy Reagan as leaders on a national conversation around AIDS, rather than to the activists themselves, is revealing of her insider perspective on social change.

http://www.vox.com/2016/3/11/11208192/hillary-clinton-nancy-reagan-aids
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
It's one of those things where she gets some egg on her face but it doesn't matter because there's no real way for the right to capitalize on it. What are they gonna say? "What an idiot: didn't you know what a jerk Reagan was?"

The only bad thing that happens is some speechwriter gets fired.
 

Bronx-Man

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Easily the most idiotic thing any Democratic candidate has said all election season. Just a horrendous thing to say, especially when her stances with the LGBT community still get questioned to this day.
 

Empty

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using social justice rhetoric to try and appeal to conservatives is self-defeating. if you want to appeal to reagan democrats or older republicans turned off by trump talk about things reagan actually did not stuff they don't care about like aids, if you want to highlight gay rights issues why use the example of someone viscerally hated by the gay rights movement who is famous for doing the exact opposite. if you want to use platitudes to say nothing at all at a funeral, then use platitudes to say nothing at all.

clueless politics.
 
It's odd that someone who was an adult during that administration would make such a blunder. Hell, I was in elementary school and I remember how it really was
 

ApharmdX

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I'm glad she retracted/apologized, but wowzers, that's a bad thing to say.

It's odd that someone who was an adult during that administration would make such a blunder. Hell, I was in elementary school and I remember how it really was

So do I. My mom got a blood transfusion in 1983 when we lived in Cali, and it was terrifying... meanwhile Reagan sat on his hands doing nothing, and his administration made jokes about AIDS being the "gay plague".
 

eu pfhor ia

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already knew she and not-insignificant portions of the DNC worship Saint Reagan just as much as the republicans, but I appreciate the honesty about it at least
 
Good rule to live by if you're a progressive politician.

Never mention Reagan in a positive way.

At that point you might as well go to a Sunday service, grab the mic and thank Lucifer for all the good he's done.
 
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Republicans will lick SHIT if it has 'RONALD REAGAN ATE THIS' written on it. Some of those people must be terrified by trump right?

She's not stupid.
 
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