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Hillary Clinton Thanks Ronald Reagan for AIDS Actions
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Straight up admitting that you were wrong is not backpeddling.
Seriously Hillary is a shit campaigner. She's a good social mover but her real life political skills are painfully lacking when it comes to public engagement.
So she basically wanted to praise Reagan to look like she has a broad reach, grabbed history and public health to be less controversial.
She just flew into a window. Surreal.
So she basically wanted to praise Reagan to look like she has a broad reach, grabbed history and public health to be less controversial.
She just flew into a window. Surreal.
theignoramus
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Who was she even pandering to with that quote? Reaganites hate Hillary with a passion.
Jack Remington
Banned
Probably time to start prepping a Biden run.
VendettaRed07
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Well I get why she felt the need to praise her for something because she was at the funeral service today
But talk about like, her thing with Gorbachev, or flipping Reagan on guns, or something ANYTHING OTHER THAN THIS
entremet
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DragonSworne
Banned
And people think she will be a good President. She is so establishment that she can't even say anything bad about Reagan.
VendettaRed07
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It amazes me that if you find this offensive that voting for trump is the better option
I'm not at all happy with Hilary's comment (even with her apology) but if you seriously think Trump has not said tons of things that are worse than this you are seriously deluding yourself.
Chmpocalypse
Blizzard
Holy. Shit.
FUCK you, Clinton. As a queer man, this is especially reprehensible to me. So glad I live in blue California, where I don't have to waste my vote supporting a trash candidate like you for "pragmatism".
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
She saiD she was wrong, it isn't back pedaling
TheOohChild
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Damn. At least she was quick to pull it back
you're probably not going to vote either way
you're probably not going to vote either way
Wafflecakes
Member
Well you have now proven that you can in fact say things infinitely stupider than what Hillary said.
Don't vote for trump, if comments like this bother you, as they should, Hillary is no good but trump says so much worse shit
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Sad to see people overreacting here. Sure, she fucked up but she immediately apologized. wtf is wrong with you people.
And that guardian article is just wow. Fuck Regan and fuck any republican who worships that fuckface.
And that guardian article is just wow. Fuck Regan and fuck any republican who worships that fuckface.
Trump has said infinitely more stupid shit than this.
It's bad but it's not pandering to white nationalists bad
yet she's great at debates and was amazing at the Benghazi hearings. What gives? Unless...
<pulls off Hillary mask>
Really odd thing to say, not just because it's patently untrue but it was totally unnecessary for her to say in the first place.
If she really want to heap some across the aisle praise on the Reagans, she should bring up their support of gun control or something.
That's not what backpeddling is.
If she really want to heap some across the aisle praise on the Reagans, she should bring up their support of gun control or something.
That's not what backpeddling is.
A lot of republicans worship him unfortunately.
UnforgivenTwin
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Lol!yet she's great at debates and was amazing at the Benghazi hearings. What gives? Unless...
<pulls off Hillary mask>
Count Dookkake
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Gay bros, please don't forgive this.
aspiegamer
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Fuck Reagan.
Edit: Damaging to some, I understand. I wouldn't hold it against anyone if they were to change a vote based on this. Just that, bigger picture, it's likely to not mean much.
Trying to say something nice for Nancy's funeral this afternoon, I'm sure (and she attended, so a statement while there would be customary). A staffer is hopefully getting fired over this, but even a glace over this and she should have known better.
This is a biiiiiiiiiit extreme a reaction. Not that I'd blame anyone for being offended by what she said. But legitimately damaging? No.
Edit: Damaging to some, I understand. I wouldn't hold it against anyone if they were to change a vote based on this. Just that, bigger picture, it's likely to not mean much.
Donald Trump is well known for his tactful, sensitive rhetoric that never strays from historical accuracy, after all.
uncredited male
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How you fuck this up?
I mean, when Bernie makes a gaffe we get hundreds of posts about how he's racist and dog whistling or whatever so I don't think this is overreacting compared to that.
It's definitely the best thing should could have done, but the fact that she had to do it at all is baffling. She should've known better.
Though, certainly still not on the same level as saying all mexicans are rapists and being hesitant to denounce David Duke.
Right, gun control measures that only took Reagan getting shot then leaving office to actually get a move on.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Lets be real. That person already had their boxes packed up in some black garbage bags and a one way ticket on a Megabus out of town.
This is completely nonsensical position for the GE.
RumblingRosco
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Right? Besides being factually incorrect, who the hell was she pandering to? How was this statement beneficial to make even if it had been true? It's not gonna convince Republicans to vote for her and it's not going to bring aboard Democrats that are voting for Bernie.
This is the kind of thing you'd expect to hear from one of the Republican candidates that like to buff up Reagan.
Count Dookkake
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https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/708403247795539968
Not that it excuses the original statement.
Misspoke doesn't fairly describe saying the exact opposite of something.
Wolfgunblood Garopa
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lol. This is a very HRC-esque kind of gaffe, and she knows when she fucked up. This one was particularly weird, but prepare for at least one more of these.
FeenixRising
Banned
what kind of logic is this?
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
It was just her saying something about Nancy at her funeral, it isn't meant to go that deep
John Dunbar
correct about everything
connecting republican god reagan with gun control would still be a positive thing.
Officerrob
Banned
She shouldn't be praising his actions on AIDS, but shitting on Reagan at Nancy Reagan's funeral probably isn't the right thing to do either
TomWaitsForNoMan
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She says "misspoke" like it was a slip of the tongue, or a small error. But she said:
That's not misspeaking. That's a paragraph of glowing praise, based on utter reprehensible falsehoods. There are only two explanations. First, that she was woefully ignorant and misinformed about the Reagans' approach to HIV/AIDS. Second, that she was fully aware but deliberately lied to burnish the credentials of a corpse.
Neither can honestly be described as "misspeaking". Her apology, flanked as it is by yet more praise of those monsters, is just as false as her initial statement.
The expression is "if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything," not "if you can't say anything nice, invent offensive ahistorical fantasies out of whole cloth"
That's not misspeaking. That's a paragraph of glowing praise, based on utter reprehensible falsehoods. There are only two explanations. First, that she was woefully ignorant and misinformed about the Reagans' approach to HIV/AIDS. Second, that she was fully aware but deliberately lied to burnish the credentials of a corpse.
Neither can honestly be described as "misspeaking". Her apology, flanked as it is by yet more praise of those monsters, is just as false as her initial statement.
The expression is "if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything," not "if you can't say anything nice, invent offensive ahistorical fantasies out of whole cloth"
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