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HITMAN |OT| Blood Monthly
- Thread starter VE3TRO
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Thanks! backed up my saves, waiting on the reinstall nowexcited to check out the update!
To be fair, the game:
a) Has Steam cloud support
b) It also has a cloud of it's own in-game which is linked to your account
Basically, even if you deleted your saves on your computer you'd still have them
unknownhero
Member
so, how many of you completed the Thailand level SO/SA? raise your hand!
*raises hand*
*raises hand*
CertifiedFP
Member
Also since when was this game "Ripped from the headlines"?
Literally all of these have been based off of other works of fiction. Not hot topics.
Paris: Zoolander
Sapienza: Metal Gear Solid
Marrakesh: Splinter Cell
Bangkok: Blood Money (Playboy hit, but with a map similar to the Casino.)
And if the US level is Redneckistan (For the third game in a row... *snore*), then it'll be Absolution Redux.
...I just want a Hitman game where the US level is a major economic-center city like New York, Chicago, or LA instead of another variation on Bumfuck Deep South Town that IO Interactive seems to love doing...
Literally all of these have been based off of other works of fiction. Not hot topics.
Paris: Zoolander
Sapienza: Metal Gear Solid
Marrakesh: Splinter Cell
Bangkok: Blood Money (Playboy hit, but with a map similar to the Casino.)
And if the US level is Redneckistan (For the third game in a row... *snore*), then it'll be Absolution Redux.
...I just want a Hitman game where the US level is a major economic-center city like New York, Chicago, or LA instead of another variation on Bumfuck Deep South Town that IO Interactive seems to love doing...
ffejeromdiks
Banned
Colorado is in the 'bumfuck deep south'?
Remembrance
Member
This entire game is Metal Gear Solid. 47 is Snake, the mystery guy is Ocelot, and Providence is the Patriots.
Although I didn't expect
the ICA to already figure out what's really going on
trying to track down mystery guy
Also, I think I like Bangkok more than Paris. This is Hitman - there will always be single-building levels; the question is how well-designed they are. This level ramps up the design in subtle ways.
- It's not really one building but
two, when it comes down to it - you can't just freely cross between the north and south towers
- Items aren't just scattered randomly everywhere - have you tried actually finding a specific tool in Paris without resorting to a map? You find items only in places that make sense.
- It feels like a lived-in place where it matters. Specific characters' rooms are very well done in terms of storytelling.
- More complex room layout means many different choices of paths and interesting ways to create and block paths of sight.
- The level actually presents mysteries that you want to solve (
what's on the recording, what happens at the meeting between the lawyer and the manager
Added bonus: the "setpiece" music in Bangkok doesn't crank up the bass every time you walk nearby.
And whoever mentioned a skyscraper level: this building is already pretty vertical with all the floors - I'm not sure an actual skyscraper level would have many more floors than that (that you can access).
Blitzrules240
Banned
Wow I'm impressed I figured out the Oh Snap! assassination on my own.
Dick Justice
Banned
There were a few deep-south missions in Blood Money, but they were far from the majority. Though I get where you're coming from with a city-based level set in the US. Would certainly be interesting to have a level set in a bustling New York neighbourhood.
The unfortunate thing about the episodic nature of this game is that we're not going to see something like A New Life, which is a fairly small environment, but that small scale gives it a bit of extra personality and intimacy. If they made a level like that, people would likely complain about not getting a huge level with tons of content.
Remembrance
Member
Something else about the design of this level just struck me. The most subtle point yet.
The whole mission was made harder than it otherwise would have been just by having gender parity among the hotel staff. That's all it took.
So expect the Japan level to have geishas everywhere, I guess?
(I didn't even notice this until I started doing the elusive - for my story run I ended up clocking a whole 80 minutes without knocking anyone out, without using any coins, and without needing to pick any locks. I appreciate that this level basically doesn't force you to brute-force your way around.)
The whole mission was made harder than it otherwise would have been just by having gender parity among the hotel staff. That's all it took.
So expect the Japan level to have geishas everywhere, I guess?
(I didn't even notice this until I started doing the elusive - for my story run I ended up clocking a whole 80 minutes without knocking anyone out, without using any coins, and without needing to pick any locks. I appreciate that this level basically doesn't force you to brute-force your way around.)
Jeff Stephen
Member
Sure hope you tweeted that to Hitman.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
the download finished too late for me to finish the mission tonight but I scouted it around. At first blush I like the level layout a lot, but I can see that its not set up for as much "wacky" stuff. I am curious what ways they'll find to put spins on it with elusives and stuff
Moff
Member
there really should have been more interesting unrelated guets at tjhe hotel. there is not a single room occupied that is is not affiliated with the band. there ar some guests in the lobby and restaurant but it would have been a great opportunites to havem some fun, exciting, interesting and crazy stuff in this level. the rooms are just plain empty and that's a shame. nothing compared to traditions of the trade and las vegas. even paris had something like that with the sheikh.
Remembrance
Member
Rooms
actually have people who are not affiliated with the band in them.
And you do find a surprise of sorts in
.
207 and 208
And you do find a surprise of sorts in
207
Moff
Member
Remembrance
Member
The actual guest in 207 is
the woman who was banging the roadie - other staff and notes talk about her excessive room service orders
The 208 guest is... just some guy. I was accidentally in the bathroom as he entered and had to knock him out.
Moff
Member
yes I know about 207,
she is apparently a celebrity according to other guests. still, with the microphone in there and the roadie outfit, definitely a "band" room in my opinion, regardless of who booked the room
and 208 I missed apparently, doesn't sound very exciting, though
It just feels so lazy, even if they didn't want to do interesting and exciting stuff, a least let the guests from the lobby/restaraunts walk up and down to their rooms FFS, just lazy
That's probably true yeah
A shame considering A New Life is probably the best BM level.I really hope the last two locations will be more interesting in terms of layout. So far with the exception of Sapienza it's been a little dull unfortunately.
xviper
Member
finished Thailand map and reached level 20, it's an improvement over Sapienza and marraksh but still not as good as Paris, as i expected, they made the first mission SO GOOD so you get tricked into buying the whole game and discover it's disappointing, Paris was on bar with Blood money's missions, i was hoping Thailand mission will have a hotel like the one in Hitman 3, but nah, the building doesn't even feel like a hotel
Marrakesh definitely has occupy wall street/ arab spring overtones.
Sapienza is better than Paris, so not really. I'll agree Paris and Sapienza are better than Marrakesh and Thailand.
Blitzrules240
Banned
Question one:
Use the opportunity Bugman.
Use the opportunity called The Smoking Gun
btw I'm already at Lvl 17 but when you can reload saves, its pretty simplified.
Im enjoying this game so far but something feels missing. I think its a combination of the darker atmosphere of some of the previous hitman game levels and the lack of Jesper Kyd. The soundtrack just doesn't add to the atmosphere at all like Kyds did. In fact it almost detracts from it to the point where its almost better with the music off.
The Janitor
Member
This is how I feel aswell. They nailed the sandbox gameplay, but it's missing that Hitman atmosphere.
Moff
Member
best and easiest SA
get the 2 targets to meet (I did it with the bugman, don't know if there's another way) jordan will kill francois hollande himself, by pushing him out the window and after that you can immediately push jordan out as well.
suit only not possible that way, though, sadly
suit only not possible that way, though, sadly
firenskill2000
Member
I'm enjoying it more probably because I didn't get into the older games until very late and by then even though I loved the gameplay and the overall feel of them, the controls just made it very hard for me to get invested in them. I still have them on my PS3 but now after playing this I think it's going to be even harder to go back.
Agreed.
I'm enjoying the game a hell of a lot more than Absolution, and it will likely be in my top 10 come the end of the year, but it all feels a bit sterile. The bland soundtrack and lack of authentic voice acting contributes to that feeling.
I picked this game up a couple weeks ago because the Giant Bomb videos were hysterical and I wanted in on the action.
I've finished all the story missions except Thailand (didn't know it came out yet) and I'm slowly working my way up to level 20 mastery in every location.
After spending about 30 hours with the game I'm pretty confident this is my favorite Hitman game. I love the variety of assassinations in Paris (Lights Out is probably my favorite), Sapienza provided me with the best story to tell (exploding golf ball kill while I was destroying the Virus), Marrakesh (drop the MOOOOSE) while the weakest level I've played ups the challenge a bit with trying to find ways into the school and the consulate. I'm going out of my way to get my first kills with opportunities turned off. I've found this makes the first playthrough way more engaging. Subsequent runs are about completing challenges and earning that mastery.
I botched my first Elusive target in spectacular fashion. I plan on taking the next one out with significantly more care.
I've finished all the story missions except Thailand (didn't know it came out yet) and I'm slowly working my way up to level 20 mastery in every location.
After spending about 30 hours with the game I'm pretty confident this is my favorite Hitman game. I love the variety of assassinations in Paris (Lights Out is probably my favorite), Sapienza provided me with the best story to tell (exploding golf ball kill while I was destroying the Virus), Marrakesh (drop the MOOOOSE) while the weakest level I've played ups the challenge a bit with trying to find ways into the school and the consulate. I'm going out of my way to get my first kills with opportunities turned off. I've found this makes the first playthrough way more engaging. Subsequent runs are about completing challenges and earning that mastery.
I botched my first Elusive target in spectacular fashion. I plan on taking the next one out with significantly more care.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Does anyone know where the hell I can get a wrench?
In Thailand?
The basement locker room has one in a toolbox, at least. There's probably more in the level.
Welcome to Hitman, 47.
In regards to season 2, I REALLY hope they get some more varied voice acting. Hearing the same actors on every level with different nationalities is really weird. I also hope they improve the music to be less James Bond. My favorite piece of music in the game is the menu theme which is fantastic but the game needs more epic music.
Also, everyone saying they prefer Paris over this, Paris was great but I like Thailand even more. All of the band stuff is hilarious.
Remembrance
Member
There definitely was an effort to introduce more accents for NPCs in Bangkok... Even if they were all different flavours of British.
In the basement there's one near a guy fixing a sink in the laundry room and another one in a box next to a shelf in the linen room.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Argh I coulda sworn I scoured the level. Thanks!
there's one right near the start. Near where the guys are discussing the microphone on a trolley thing.
The Class soundcloud page has two tracks but it's missing Shine a Light. Anyone have that track?
https://soundcloud.com/theclass_band
47 playing
is one of the best things in the game so far.
https://soundcloud.com/theclass_band
47 playing
drums
CertifiedFP
Member
What I find interesting about Thailand is that it has a shortage of 5000 point challenges in favor of a lot of 2500/1000 ones. They really want this to be one that's replayed A LOT instead of just a few times in order to reach Lv20.
I'm really looking forward to the spinoff a few years down the line, Renaissance Man.
I'm really looking forward to the spinoff a few years down the line, Renaissance Man.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Okay been through a couple different kill variations and so far I think I like this better than Paris and Marrakesh. Feels very old school Hitman in style and opportunity.
I didn't purchase the season pass since originally it was only supposed to be a $5 price difference in getting things separately ;p. So do you really need to play all the levels? Marrakesh doesn't sound that interesting to me so I never bought it but I was thinking of still getting Bangkok. I have the base game and Sapienza so far.
First time listening to The Class' songs, and goddamn, this is hilariously perfect. Despite the lack of Jesper Kyd, this whole Hitman season has been on point, musically.
I did it, pretty funny. Surprised how long it kept going.
firenskill2000
Member
Is there an overarching story that connects these set pieces together? I know at the end of each there is a scene that seems to connect them but maybe I'm just being dense and don't see the link.
There is. The latest mission starts to bring everything together. I love the story in this. It's loose but I'm still interested in knowing what's actually going on.
Marakesh may be the "worst" of the levels but it certainly isn't bad. It's all opinion. The main targets are pretty fun and there is one axe escalation mission that is an absolute must play. Marakesh is worth buying at the very least to see Connie Engstrom. The level has a very different atmosphere to it than any lever so far with tons of crowds and a big marketplace. If you like the game I'd suggest buying every level as they all have something different to offer.
Kwansu Dudes
Member
I think Troy Baker is plotting to take down Providence and is using 47 to help him.