The Class' album name is called "Providence".
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The Class' album name is called "Providence".
montycliff13
Member
I absolutely lost my shit when 47 bangs out a killer drum fill for the band. Of course he can play the drums. Of course he can.
Blitzrules240
Banned
Anyone figured out the Smooth Operator assassination yet?
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Oh man the background conversations in this game are so incredible. They're just so inane but pushed to the degree of ridiculousness. Recently when I was doing the Busey hit I came across the guy in Sapienza arguing on the phone about a package being delivered, and in this level my favorite so far by far is the dude with the "eleventh fastest growing tech company in San Francisco"
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Marrakesh's actual map design is for the most part pretty good, my problems with it are that from a security and disguise perspective there's basically one approach to get into the school and maybe two to get into the embassy. Its the one I've spent by far the least time just doing the regular targets over and over on
Remembrance
Member
Yeah, the problem with Marrakesh is that both major buildings are completely enclosed except from the front. They're not designed to reveal new things when approached from different angles of attack.
I think that guy is actually scripted to still be talking every time you run by. It's great.
But the most memorable examples are when people are talking about inane things while you're trying to do something - like in night Marrakesh when you want to lure the snail vendor into the alley, but there's a woman right there rambling about if all the people in China could knock the planet out of its orbit.
I think that guy is actually scripted to still be talking every time you run by. It's great.
But the most memorable examples are when people are talking about inane things while you're trying to do something - like in night Marrakesh when you want to lure the snail vendor into the alley, but there's a woman right there rambling about if all the people in China could knock the planet out of its orbit.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
I think Marrakesh would benefit greatly from a difficult to access (maybe locked) staircase in the back of the embassy. To my knowledge currently there's no way to make it onto the second floor without going past the checkpoint right?
Remembrance
Member
But there is a staircase to the upper floor in the back...
And you can go right up that way as a janitor, without suspicion.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Wait there is? Have I somehow managed to never find this?
Yeah it's near the back of the building. If you walk down the hallway it's to the right hand side. There is one guard standing there.
Moff
Member
it's in the same place where you can go down to the garage
PinkCrayon
Member
The explosive phone is a great addition.
Moff
Member
it's basically the same as the remote ducks, tough, isn't it?
It's definitely in my top 3 at least right now, which I did not expect at all. I keep coming back for more. The emergent moments, the scripted content, the amount of challenges, the writing and sense of humor, it all just clicks for me. Poking around Thailand for the first time now and it seems like a solid addition, my first episodic drop since picking the game up last month.
I was thinking about it... how fucking crazy would it be to have an elusive target that was another Hitman? Like not multi-player (though that could be fun...), but you open a shed and see a gardener knocked out, then you start staking out the gardeners and see one acting suspicious or something.
The Dear Leader
Banned
That would be cool to see.
SlackAdjuster
Member
I'd like to see more famous targets.
Speaking of that, didn't someone hint awhile back to someone famous being in this episode as a secret?
Speaking of that, didn't someone hint awhile back to someone famous being in this episode as a secret?
kitschykitty
Member
got my level 20 mastery in Bangkok, probably my least favourite level, it just didn't really feel like there was a lot to do in the level and I thought there was way too much bullshit involved in just getting around the hotel which made replays kind of annoying. The unlocks seem nice though, I'm interested in how the exploding cell phone can play out in other levels and the sniper you get seems pretty good.
There were definitely some assassination highlights though
There were definitely some assassination highlights though
knocking out the entire lobby with the insecticide
Tuk Tuk explosion
Smothering him in the cake
Obviously the drum solo
Tuk Tuk explosion
Smothering him in the cake
Obviously the drum solo
Remembrance
Member
Went back to the yacht level to replay Thomas Cross's conversation. Another man there plans to introduce him to a group in London who are looking for "men of ambition."
Presumably we are actually looking at a moment in the formation of Providence here (albeit reenacted by stand-ins).
Presumably we are actually looking at a moment in the formation of Providence here (albeit reenacted by stand-ins).
Get the master keycard from the basement linen room.
Master key card in the basement
or blow the door open with a fire extinguisher like I did.
TheUnsunghero26
Member
So who else got the "Oops I did it again" challenge on accident?
Remembrance
Member
I did that one just now, with no suspicion that it would be anything special. That was great.
Bangkok just makes me want to slow down and take my time exploring more than any other level. Paris, Sapienza, and Marrakesh all had huge parts of the level that had no obvious connection to the story and the targets. Here, you can methodically go through the place room by room, and any room could have something relevant in it.
Better yet, there are specific things I know I'm looking for, and they could be anywhere. That's why the search is fun.
Edit: The Son of Siam featured contract is worth doing. The targets are about as simple as it gets, and it's tight enough to easily speedrun - I got 7th place tonight but that won't last long.
I used a door breaching charge.
tryagainlater
Member
If you go left at the default starting point, they're both in a little alcove before hitting the stairs to the school.
Oldest Snake
Member
You can get them both together if you take the left-most path from the default entrance until you come to the alley leading into the school (armed guards at the end, people talking about the Headmaster). Just to the left of the power source is a screwdriver & wrench.
You could also check these amazing fan-made maps.
Wow, those maps are amazing. I may definitely use them for some escalations.
Intheflorsh
Banned
Is the Oh Snap challenge
I tried that and it didn't seem to work.
knocking the lawyer out with the insecticide and then snapping his neck?
Moff
Member
I think I did that with Jordan and got it
Blitzrules240
Banned
I did
both
Turin Turambar
Member
I think after Sapienza this is the best mission yet. So much stuff going on.
Oh damn I kinda liked the part where I jotted down notes for each level but this might change things...
How do you get it?
unknownhero
Member
Get the exterminator outfit and then talk to the hotal manager. Wait for cross and his lawyer talk to each other and then follow then up the lawyer's suite. Then just watch the magic happen...
Not sure how much I like Bangkok so far.
Also this. Why are they not adding different new suits, weapon customization etc while increasing the ranks? That would give more depth and motivation.
The outside area feels kind of lacking. Which results in there not being a proper sniper spot. Also they could've added a small jungle area or something for varietys sake.
The hotel itself is nice but also feels kinda "empty" in some places. It has a bit of "been there" feeling because it's a bit similar to Paris imo. The mastery unlocks also feel kind of unnecessary. Why would I need all those item drop locations? Why that machete? the same Jaeger 7 but with a tiger camo? I feel like they blew their load early and now are struggling to come up with new unlocks. The phone is cool I guess.
Overall really mixed feelings atm. I really hope the next level we get won't be another single tall 3-4 story building. Mix it up a little. I miss the "focus" of blood money missions like the playboy party/heaven&hell/sanitarium.
The hotel itself is nice but also feels kinda "empty" in some places. It has a bit of "been there" feeling because it's a bit similar to Paris imo. The mastery unlocks also feel kind of unnecessary. Why would I need all those item drop locations? Why that machete? the same Jaeger 7 but with a tiger camo? I feel like they blew their load early and now are struggling to come up with new unlocks. The phone is cool I guess.
Overall really mixed feelings atm. I really hope the next level we get won't be another single tall 3-4 story building. Mix it up a little. I miss the "focus" of blood money missions like the playboy party/heaven&hell/sanitarium.
Also this. Why are they not adding different new suits, weapon customization etc while increasing the ranks? That would give more depth and motivation.
Oldest Snake
Member
First run of Bangkok done, thought it was good overall but it does have its flaws. It certainly felt like a significant step up in difficulty, the lack of 'pedestrian' NPCs coupled with the (over)use of the 'enforcer' enemies (dudes who can see through disguises) made it particularly tricky to move around without getting spotted. Felt a bit like an Absolution level, with a lot of enemies crammed into a fairly close space. Whether I'll find it so difficult on future playthroughs time will tell, but I definitely found it more difficult on a first playthrough than the other 3 levels.
I would have liked it if the hotel felt a bit more normal. Traditions... & House of Cards both felt like actual hotels but Bangkok really just feels like a hotel building being used for something else. The disguises and 'rules' of a hotel won't get you very far. Would have been better if the band were just staying at the hotel whilst they were in town to record at a different studio, and the rooms dedicated the studio & penthouse were just more hotel rooms.
So yeah, Sapienza is still the best level so far followed by Paris, but I wouldn't put Bangkok much further behind it.
Also Jordan Cross is so obviously meant to be Jared Leto, which is made funnier by
The fact that they've just reused the music from Paris really pissed me off though. Actually turned the music off for this episode because it kept distracting me.
I would have liked it if the hotel felt a bit more normal. Traditions... & House of Cards both felt like actual hotels but Bangkok really just feels like a hotel building being used for something else. The disguises and 'rules' of a hotel won't get you very far. Would have been better if the band were just staying at the hotel whilst they were in town to record at a different studio, and the rooms dedicated the studio & penthouse were just more hotel rooms.
So yeah, Sapienza is still the best level so far followed by Paris, but I wouldn't put Bangkok much further behind it.
Also Jordan Cross is so obviously meant to be Jared Leto, which is made funnier by
the Batman/Bruce Wayne reference in the intel description of him.
The fact that they've just reused the music from Paris really pissed me off though. Actually turned the music off for this episode because it kept distracting me.
Blitzrules240
Banned
The option where you can
smother him.
Also is there a backstory to the
Stalker
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
I think where I'm landing is that while it feels like there's not much to do outside of just the opportunities on this map, I think it has a lot of potential for Elusive Targets
CertifiedFP
Member
Honestly, enforcers everywhere is probably for the better.
In the first three maps a small handful of easy to grab disguises could get you everywhere without issue, like Helmut Kruger who had access to the entire Paris map and immunity to security checks.
Here you have to be willing to constantly swap disguises to fit in the precise part of the hotel you want to be in, or outright revert to your suit for total freedom of movement in the non-staff areas otherwise guarded by White Dots who would spot you in a second. It creates a much more dynamic playspace that requires cunning on the player's part.
As for it being a hotel used for something else... That's the entire premise.
I poisoned him with the cake. Last thing dude says is "Dad?" and drop dead. Dufe dying with his last breath being him thinking his Dad just killed him felt more brutal than many of the other assassinations lol.
CertifiedFP
Member
Either I'm crazy, but wasn't that
essentially the Dad's plan to a certain extent. At the very least he planned on ruining his career so he'd stop being an embarrassment to the family.