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HITMAN |OT| Blood Monthly

Moff

Member
They've tweaked how they do opportunities to be fair. In the first episodes most of them would outright lead you to a kill or extremely close to one. As new episodes came more and more of the opportunities involve more getting a good disguise or get to a good place, but you still have to do most of the work to get a kill.

I agree that the opportunites got weaker over time, many of them still lead you straight to a kill, the yoga one in hokkaido for instance
I think a good solution would be to unlock them until you finished the level once

but looking at giant bomb many players would probably be frustrated
 

TheKeyPit

Banned
I always do a couple of opportunities first to see what the developers came up with and to get a sense of the level. Then I go all-in for my SA/SO runs.
 
Reached level 20, then immediately replanned in the patient suite with a gun, lockpick, and duck. Immediately did Don't Look Down.

All the good stuff in this level is locked away in those mystery cabinets! That's a smart way to open up the level for players who take the time to learn it.

Also, here's a real missed opportunity: the double reveal.
Instead of how it works now (the chief surgeon just kills Soders directly), have the chief surgeon clear the operating room first and reveal his intent to Soders. As he's walking back to do the deed, the room is now cleared for you to reveal yourself to Soders. Soders dies from the shock of two people out to kill him, and the chief surgeon is very confused when he gets back only to find Soders already dead.

Is there even a clean way to
reveal yourself to Soders? I pulled the fire alarm, which prevented everyone from being alerted by me (but not from spotting me).
 

Maiorum

Member
How do you get the surgeon to clear the room? For me, he just goes to the kiosk and kills Soders.

99 hrs playtime according to steam, and all challenges done. What a game. Haven't even touched the escalations. I'll give them a shot, but it doesn't sound like they're for me.
 
How do you get the surgeon to clear the room? For me, he just goes to the kiosk and kills Soders.

99 hrs playtime according to steam, and all challenges done. What a game. Haven't even touched the escalations. I'll give them a shot, but it doesn't sound like they're for me.

Yeah, he doesn't clear the room - I should have clarified.

I don't think there is a way to clear the room.

As for escalations, every subsequent level bumps up their difficulty a bit. Paris and Sapienza escalations are pretty simple, Marrakesh and Bangkok are challenging, and Colorado and Hokkaido will make you ask if they're even possible.

Also, some of the newer Paris ones (newer ones are further left) are ridiculous, so start with the rightmost ones.
 

Fantastapotamus

Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
Wow, that was way less painful than I thought it would be. Kinda bummed it didn't count as Suit Only since that'll be easy compared to this.

What a trip though
I save a trapped friend in a freezer, killed a heart and locked a woman in a sauna. All while looking like a Ninja
I love this game
 

Maiorum

Member
Yeah, he doesn't clear the room - I should have clarified.

I don't think there is a way to clear the room.

As for escalations, every subsequent level bumps up their difficulty a bit. Paris and Sapienza escalations are pretty simple, Marrakesh and Bangkok are challenging, and Colorado and Hokkaido will make you ask if they're even possible.

Also, some of the newer Paris ones (newer ones are further left) are ridiculous, so start with the rightmost ones.

Ah, gotcha.

Thanks, I'll try out the Paris ones then.

Wow, that was way less painful than I thought it would be. Kinda bummed it didn't count as Suit Only since that'll be easy compared to this.

What a trip though
I save a trapped friend in a freezer, killed a heart and locked a woman in a sauna. All while looking like a Ninja
I love this game

I did SA/SO the same way. I think this might be the easiest map to get SA/SO on. There's no part which is particularly tricky.
 

Fantastapotamus

Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
I'm not the biggest fan of the escalations. I'd rather start with Lvl. 5 cause doing the same thing over and over again gets boring really fast

I did SA/SO the same way. I think this might be the easiest map to get SA/SO on. There's no part which is particularly tricky.

Yeah, once I found the chip things got pretty easy. Still felt pretty good
 

MUnited83

For you.
Yeah, I think 5 levels might be too many, specially when many of them are largely the same for the most levels. Escalations should be 3 levels instead.
 

Murkas

Member
I'm not the biggest fan of the escalations. I'd rather start with Lvl. 5 cause doing the same thing over and over again gets boring really fast



Yeah, once I found the chip things got pretty easy. Still felt pretty good

A lot of the newer escalations switch objectives throughout around level 3 or so so I don't find it too bad.

Is this it for Hitman until S2? :(

I'm hoping they take off the offline unlock crap for when the disc version comes out, it would be ridiculous if they kept it for disc users, no excuses there.
 

MaKTaiL

Member
I did three levels of the Thailand escalation last night, saw the requirement for the fourth and went "yeah...okay maybe later"

It's actually a lot easier than you think.

Start as a kitchen staff, get a knife, wait until everyone either get out of the kitchen or turns away from you, kill chef with the knife from behind, you should have a good amount of time to move him to the freezer. Second male target will eventually go insde the chef office all alone, kill him. Before moving him to the freezer, use a coin to lure the guy talking to the last target down the stairs, knock him out, kill last target, move both targets to freezer, get out.
 

MaKTaiL

Member
A lot of the newer escalations switch objectives throughout around level 3 or so so I don't find it too bad.

Is this it for Hitman until S2? :(

I'm hoping they take off the offline unlock crap for when the disc version comes out, it would be ridiculous if they kept it for disc users, no excuses there.

Disc users will get the same game we already have.
 
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Deleted member 30609

Unconfirmed Member
I have no idea how I'm supposed to do the last part of the latest accidental kill escalation in Paris. 0_0
 

The Technomancer

card-carrying scientician
How did everyone get the Director disguise? I need for the last Sarajevo Six mission.

Clear out the bathroom he passes, hiding the bodies in the toilet. When he approaches open the door and toss something to get his attention. The timing is tricky with the door opening but if you get it right he'll wander in, the door will close and you can knock him out
 
Clear out the bathroom he passes, hiding the bodies in the toilet. When he approaches open the door and toss something to get his attention. The timing is tricky with the door opening but if you get it right he'll wander in, the door will close and you can knock him out

He always stops to eat some sushi in the restaurant, use rat poison and he'll go to a bathroom where you can choke him out.

Thanks guys.
 
I have no idea how I'm supposed to do the last part of the latest accidental kill escalation in Paris. 0_0

The Seeger Beguilement? Cameraman accident?

Shoot the rear of a car to leak fuel and make him go check out the alarm, then shoot the fuel leak.
 
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Deleted member 30609

Unconfirmed Member
The Seeger Beguilement? Cameraman accident?

Shoot the rear of a car to leak fuel and make him go check out the alarm, then shoot the fuel leak.
Wow, I didn't even know you could do that with cars. Thanks!
 

Deadstar

Member
I LOVE when 47 talks to the targets. When making sushi he says

My colleague is a straight arrow. Me, I like to live dangerously.

Absolutely incredible. Also breaking news but season 2 was confirmed. Also, it's all in the game game. Awesome! I like the idea of being able to go to any level in one application.
 

Jintor

Member
hokkaido really reminded me that one of my favourite kills in blood money was shoving hugh hefner down the stairs in his cubist christmas mansion
 

Moff

Member
Something I missed in the first season was definitely the sex, I admit it. A dark stripclub environment and hookers are just a part of hitman for me.
 

Murkas

Member
Something I missed in the first season was definitely the sex, I admit it. A dark stripclub environment and hookers are just a part of hitman for me.

I think they're distancing themselves from that stuff after that Absolution nun trailer, or maybe it doesn't fit with their current environment of high profile extravagant targets (then again you had Colorado which had more of a, for lack of a better word, "classic" Hitman feel).
 

Xenoboy

Member
So I failed the elusive, I managed to kill the Dictator, but his wife was impossible for me. I should have found a spot to snipe em both instead :/
 
do you reckon they're gonna continue the whole 'james bond' vibe they got going on for the second season? honestly wouldn't mind because spy games are really hard to come by.
if they do decide to go a bit darker, it wouldn't be bad either.

actually i completely trust io with everything they do, they have proven themselves to respect and understand what makes hitman great with this season :)
 

Fantastapotamus

Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
I also wouldn't mind a bit of a darker tone for some levels. That doesn't mean less ridiculous shit in them but maybe a level that resembles the Meat King's Party or something like that. That would be fun.
 

CloudWolf

Member
I'd love for the next season to be Contracts 2 in style, but it's not going to happen. Almost the entire season has been Hitman going after high-profile 'bad people' (the Sapienza bonus episode being the sole exception), they're not suddenly going back to making a morally ambiguous Hitman game for season 2. I just hope they can get Jesper Kyd back this time, the soundtrack in season 1 was so forgettable.
 

Moff

Member
I think they're distancing themselves from that stuff after that Absolution nun trailer, or maybe it doesn't fit with their current environment of high profile extravagant targets (then again you had Colorado which had more of a, for lack of a better word, "classic" Hitman feel).
Yeah it's my impression as well they are distancing themselves, which would be a shame. And high profile targets could still have that. in the trailer for the game was a playboy like target with girls at a pool party, not sure if that was supposed to be sapienza once.
 
The opportunities are at their best with the minimal hint system. Full hints, then why even bother

Escalations might be my favorite part of the game
 

clip

Member
I'd love for the next season to be Contracts 2 in style, but it's not going to happen. Almost the entire season has been Hitman going after high-profile 'bad people' (the Sapienza bonus episode being the sole exception), they're not suddenly going back to making a morally ambiguous Hitman game for season 2. I just hope they can get Jesper Kyd back this time, the soundtrack in season 1 was so forgettable.

Could you point me to some classic Hitman tracks as someone that's not familiar with earlier entries in the series?
 

Fantastapotamus

Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
I'd love for the next season to be Contracts 2 in style, but it's not going to happen. Almost the entire season has been Hitman going after high-profile 'bad people' (the Sapienza bonus episode being the sole exception), they're not suddenly going back to making a morally ambiguous Hitman game for season 2. I just hope they can get Jesper Kyd back this time, the soundtrack in season 1 was so forgettable.

Man, that first level in Blood Money is so good. I think I actually made a thread about that at some point. It might be one of my favorite opening levels ever made because it sets the tone so perfectly. The dude you are supposed to kill is a looser, has lost everything, get's bullied around by drug dealers, is in the process of having a divorce and is deeply regretful for the things that he has done (which arguably were out of his control anyway). But 47 doesn't care. You shoot that sobbing guy, move on and never look back.

That level didn't make you feel like the "good guy" it was basically telling you "You are an assassin. You get hired to kill people. For whatever reason". As much as I love the new game, it kinda frames 47 as "one of the good guys". Even is he still is an emotionless murderer he (at least in fiction) only kills people way worse than him.

Could you point me to some classic Hitman tracks as someone that's not familiar with earlier entries in the series?

My favorite track is probably Vegas from Blood Money
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa0kmgysf2Q
 
You know what would make for a darker level? Being sent to kill a dude who was released from jail years early after killing a child and is now celebrating with his childhood friend in his father's massive mansion. Targets are the dude and his friend or the guy who decided to release him early/the chief of police. The family of the dead child are the one paying for the kill. The mansion is filled with people partying, hired escorts and strippers, bodyguards, cops, catering people, a hired band/DJ and the target's inner circle. The mansion has a swimming pool, big garage, home cinema, the father's office etc. A unique kill is to kill the target the same way he killed the child(maybe send him out into the road and then enter the escape car to trigger a cutscene where 47 hit and runs him?).
 

BibiMaghoo

Member
Something I missed in the first season was definitely the sex, I admit it. A dark stripclub environment and hookers are just a part of hitman for me.

I respect your want for it, but I feel the opposite, that the game benefited from not having that stuff in it. To me it lowers the tone of the package and feels contrived. There are situations where it is fine, but past games have been there already. If I see stuff like that and feel it was for the player instead of the game, it is a mark against it in my book. This game has kept the tone professional instead of seedy, and is better for it I think.
 
if they do continue the james bond theme, what places could we visit?
- super high end casino (macau?)
- new york skyscraper

i've been tossing around an idea where 47 has to assassinate an african warlord like idris elba in that movie but it might be a bit hard as 47 is....pigmentally challenged
 

The Technomancer

card-carrying scientician
That level didn't make you feel like the "good guy" it was basically telling you "You are an assassin. You get hired to kill people. For whatever reason". As much as I love the new game, it kinda frames 47 as "one of the good guys". Even is he still is an emotionless murderer he (at least in fiction) only kills people way worse than him.

Mmm don't fully agree.That first level of Blood Money is undone a bit for me by the theater level which has both the targets run a pedophile ring to, as far as I can tell, just make them as vile and deserving of death as possible.
 

The Technomancer

card-carrying scientician
Also after replaying a bunch of stuff I think my final rankings land:

Hokkaido > Sapienza > Marrakesh(Night) > Colorado/Paris > Thailand > Marrakesh (Day) > Sapienza (Night)

I just really really enjoyed the nighttime Marrakesh level, and really really didn't dig the Sapienza one
 
You know what would make for a darker level? Being sent to kill a dude who was released from jail years early after killing a child and is now celebrating with his childhood friend in his father's massive mansion. Targets are the dude and his friend or the guy who decided to release him early/the chief of police. The family of the dead child are the one paying for the kill. The mansion is filled with people partying, hired escorts and strippers, bodyguards, cops, catering people, a hired band/DJ and the target's inner circle. The mansion has a swimming pool, big garage, home cinema, the father's office etc. A unique kill is to kill the target the same way he killed the child(maybe send him out into the road and then enter the escape car to trigger a cutscene where 47 hit and runs him?).

This isn't THAT far off from Beldingford Manor, no?
Edit: ok maybe it isn't that close.
 

Forkball

Member
Agent 47 is basically James Bond now. To be honest I don't mind the shift in tone. The older Hitman games were pretty dark, especially Contracts.
 
Contracts was really the only !dark game in the series, and 90% of that was because all the levels were set at night in the rain
(which was a little touch of genius, since it was night & raining as 47 was thinking about those levels)
. Even then I think people vastly conflate The Meat King's Party with the overall tone of Contracts.

The Hitman series has, by and large, always leaned closer to spy/espionage than flat out ruthless assassin. Codename 47 had you going after gang members/leaders & terrorists, Silent Assassin was 47 trading favors to the ICA for personal reasons, Contracts was mostly remakes of C47 with a few new levels thrown in and Blood Money was almost exclusively fancy locals and or parties.
 

Screaming Meat

Unconfirmed Member
Contracts was really the only !dark game in the series, and 90% of that was because all the levels were set at night in the rain
(which was a little touch of genius, since it was night & raining as 47 was thinking about those levels)
.

That's oversimplifying it a bit. It was more than just "because it was raining". The music, art direction, morbid theme, story, content etc. all contributed towards its dense, oppressive atmosphere.

Blood Money was almost exclusively fancy locals and or parties.

I gotta disagree here. BM was bleak as hell, just in a different and less obvious way to Contracts' gothic flavour.

BM had a clever contrast between the bright, clean lines of the art direction, and the bleak stories and situations underneath. Since the game is predominantly set in the US and all the levels have this seedy underbelly to seemingly wholesome fronts, I always thought it was perhaps a little satire on the US.

A Vintage Year is like a microcosm of that contrast: Ostensibly a high profile wine tasting event hosted by the cultured elder statesman of a respected family, really it's a front for a drug factory overseen by a drug-addled member of a cartel.

47 in A New Life is like David Lynch's idea of death, creeping into the idyllic, almost 50s US town. Living in the gated community among them, a notorious criminal and his sex starved wife.

The Murder of Crow's is cartoon violence made real during a Madi Gras/political parade.

...and the less said about the LeBlanc's the better.
 
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