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HITMAN |OT| Blood Monthly
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Remembrance
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I played that escalation (The Ignatiev Integrity) when it came out and again recently after I got the silenced shotgun, and the body container was definitely listed before the mission started. But I did notice that more recently it's not listed anymore.
So it looks like there is a "cascade" system now for one objective to trigger after another. This could be a good feature for escalations or even the occasion elusive (probably too restrictive for story missions).
MaKTaiL
Member
I don't think so.
MaKTaiL
Member
New Hokkaido Horror Easter Egg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb4daM9XpR0&feature=youtu.be
Remembrance
Member
Aww, that one was already found.
There's another one no one has found that the developers have teased us about, like, in this same thread. No clues whatsoever, although some people have noticed that you can blend in in the sauna as the motorcyclist...
how do you even find this? are there hints in the mission that lead to this?
tearsintherain
Member
I run hitman on a 970 / 16gb / similar CPU, runs 60-90 fps no problem at 1440p with gSync with one or two options tweaked down a bit. Make sure to run DX11, the DX12 version (of every game) is an absolute mess on nvidia cards. You choose the DirectX in the launcher.
Definitely the PC version is the ultimate, load/save times are super fast and it looks stunning. I play with a controller (xbox one elite), zero problems. Its a steam game so the steam controller or dualshock 4 should work just fine too.
150+ hours into Hitman so far so yeah I'd highly recommend it to anyone.
Remembrance
Member
The only hint is that the bouncing light appears or disappears depending on where you walk. It's just trial and error based on that.
Also, you can't climb onto the roof unless you are the ninja. Even then, no part of the roof or the way to climb up is highlighted in instinct - you could only find this by accidentally walking near it and seeing the prompt.
Yeah until I saw that just now I had no idea you could get on the roof. Also, what shape does that path draw? It has to be something.
Dick Justice
Banned
I encountered that container thing too. Personally, I think it's absolute bullshit to let the player fail because you decided to arbitrarily hide a failure condition (first time I did it, it failed after he got body bagged).
Remembrance
Member
Well, it turns out that Soders can never trigger Body Found no matter how you kill him. I just blew him up and got Silent Ninja anyway.
You could actually get Silent Assassin with only explosives in this level.
The thing is, I remember that the condition was never hidden until the Episode 6 update. Maybe the code for the Cascade complication hiding an objective caused this one to change too.
You could actually get Silent Assassin with only explosives in this level.
The thing is, I remember that the condition was never hidden until the Episode 6 update. Maybe the code for the Cascade complication hiding an objective caused this one to change too.
Primethius
Banned
It's already out. You can tell because it has a cleaner image but softer due to AA or post processing they added. The load times feel quicker, the menus work without lag (thank the Lord) and the uncapped FPS is much better across the board.
MaKTaiL
Member
Anybody else wished The Class was a real band? I loved the three songs released but I wish I knew who actually sings them.
https://theclass.bandcamp.com
https://theclass.bandcamp.com
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Deleted member 30609
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Colorado effectively has this.
MaKTaiL
Member
Are these 4K or downsampled to 1080p?
MaKTaiL
Member
Ok, I tried replicating your pictures on my Standard PS4 for comparison. Am I crazy or does the normal PS4 actually look better/sharper? Black seems to be washed out on Pro as well, maybe you are not using Full RGB setting as I am. Here they are:
I think they've been compressed heavily by the site.
Not really for my benefit as I have Hitman and Pro myself, but I'm sure others would like to see. Cube Upload or Abload are best for image uploads.
Remembrance
Member
I thought a ranking for escalation difficulty might help people approach them more easily, since there are so many now.
Here's my (subjective) attempt. All difficulty ratings are based on escalation level 5 (sometimes level 4, because Wild Card sometimes makes level 5 easier). Also, short descriptions as a reminder of what each one was about.
Very easy: can be brute-forced with no pressure and no real risk of failure.
- The Osterman Mosaic (The Showstopper) - saber and lasers
- The Marsden Isotopy (The Showstopper) - shotgun bartenders
- The Ezekiel Paradox (The Showstopper) - waiter explosion
- The Sigma Illusion (World of Tomorrow) - chef and laptop
- The Szilassi Darkness (World of Tomorrow) - sniper headshots
- The Scorpio Directive (World of Tomorrow) - Sapienza lasers
Easy: can be mostly brute-forced but there is some pressure and you can fail if you don't know what you're doing.
- The Snorrason Ascension (The Final Test) - colonel and soldier
- The Einarsson Inception (Guided Training) - Norfolk and guard
- The Mandelbulb Requiem (The Showstopper) - laptop and lasers
- The Granville Curiosity (The Showstopper) - toilet puzzle
- The Hexagon Protocol (The Showstopper) - garden landmines
- The Videl Cataclysm (The Showstopper) - hot disguise
- The Apeiron Sadness (World of Tomorrow) - triple explosions
- The Selmone Mimesis (World of Tomorrow) - wine cellar kills
Average: requires moderate setup or tricky steps or execution, but no real risk of failure once you know what you're doing.
- The Holmwood Disturbance (The Showstopper) - vampire magician
- The Gemini Fiasco (The Showstopper) - Kruger and Sato
- The Shapiro Omen (The Showstopper) - body hiding puzzle
- The Perkins Disarray* (The Showstopper) - auction sabotage
- The Teague Temptation (The Showstopper) - balcony push
- The Scarlatti Covenant (World of Tomorrow) - three minutes
- The Andersen Animosity* (World of Tomorrow) - saber, PI, psychologist (hard if you want silent assassin)
- The Kilie Agitation (A Gilded Cage) - shisha cafe kills
- The Sokoloff Sophistication (A Gilded Cage) - shoe shop kills
- The Ataro Caliginosity (A House Built on Sand) - fortune teller and bodyguards
Hard: requires heavy setup, difficult steps or high-level execution, and/or you can fail even if you know what you're doing.
- The Kerner Disquiet (The Showstopper) - loud weapons
- The Seeger Beguilement (The Showstopper) - cameraman accidents
- The Gladwyn Simulacrum (World of Tomorrow) - rapid elimination streak
- The Eccleston Illumination (World of Tomorrow) - plague katana
- The Agana Abyss (The Icon) - shotguns or explosions
- The Ignatiev Integrity (A Gilded Cage) - fire, safe, shotgun
- The Lupei Sensitivity* (A Gilded Cage) - masseur and laptop (very hard if you want silent assassin)
- The Reziko Conundrum (A Gilded Cage) - shopkeeper, repairmen, landmines
- The Somsak Equation (Club 27) - bodies in freezer
Very hard: there is no trick to these, there is a high risk of failure, and it all comes down to your skills.
- The Kotti Paradigm (The Showstopper) - battle axe, suit only
- The Mallory Misfortune (Freedom Fighters) - deadly stalker
- The Meiko Incarnation (Situs Inversus) - ninja style cascade
Bullshit: even with perfect skills and execution, high risk of failure or tedium due to factors outside your control.
- The Wetzel Determination (The Showstopper) - impossible body hiding
- The Adamoli Fascination (The Showstopper) - mined exits
*All escalations marked with * use a particular kind of complication: there are mandatory disguises that can normally only be taken from NPCs, but you are not allowed to knock anyone out. You have only two choices in any of these escalations: kill NPCs for disguises and receive a penalty, or find the extra copy of the required disguise(s) hidden somewhere in the level just for this escalation. Be warned that the second option will always require very risky maneuvers and/or massive detours, making silent assassin runs of these escalations extra-hard.
Feel free to suggest adjustments - I haven't played some of these in a while, and I always go for silent assassin (but I'm trying to do these ratings for people who don't necessarily care about that).
Here's my (subjective) attempt. All difficulty ratings are based on escalation level 5 (sometimes level 4, because Wild Card sometimes makes level 5 easier). Also, short descriptions as a reminder of what each one was about.
Very easy: can be brute-forced with no pressure and no real risk of failure.
- The Osterman Mosaic (The Showstopper) - saber and lasers
- The Marsden Isotopy (The Showstopper) - shotgun bartenders
- The Ezekiel Paradox (The Showstopper) - waiter explosion
- The Sigma Illusion (World of Tomorrow) - chef and laptop
- The Szilassi Darkness (World of Tomorrow) - sniper headshots
- The Scorpio Directive (World of Tomorrow) - Sapienza lasers
Easy: can be mostly brute-forced but there is some pressure and you can fail if you don't know what you're doing.
- The Snorrason Ascension (The Final Test) - colonel and soldier
- The Einarsson Inception (Guided Training) - Norfolk and guard
- The Mandelbulb Requiem (The Showstopper) - laptop and lasers
- The Granville Curiosity (The Showstopper) - toilet puzzle
- The Hexagon Protocol (The Showstopper) - garden landmines
- The Videl Cataclysm (The Showstopper) - hot disguise
- The Apeiron Sadness (World of Tomorrow) - triple explosions
- The Selmone Mimesis (World of Tomorrow) - wine cellar kills
Average: requires moderate setup or tricky steps or execution, but no real risk of failure once you know what you're doing.
- The Holmwood Disturbance (The Showstopper) - vampire magician
- The Gemini Fiasco (The Showstopper) - Kruger and Sato
- The Shapiro Omen (The Showstopper) - body hiding puzzle
- The Perkins Disarray* (The Showstopper) - auction sabotage
- The Teague Temptation (The Showstopper) - balcony push
- The Scarlatti Covenant (World of Tomorrow) - three minutes
- The Andersen Animosity* (World of Tomorrow) - saber, PI, psychologist (hard if you want silent assassin)
- The Kilie Agitation (A Gilded Cage) - shisha cafe kills
- The Sokoloff Sophistication (A Gilded Cage) - shoe shop kills
- The Ataro Caliginosity (A House Built on Sand) - fortune teller and bodyguards
Hard: requires heavy setup, difficult steps or high-level execution, and/or you can fail even if you know what you're doing.
- The Kerner Disquiet (The Showstopper) - loud weapons
- The Seeger Beguilement (The Showstopper) - cameraman accidents
- The Gladwyn Simulacrum (World of Tomorrow) - rapid elimination streak
- The Eccleston Illumination (World of Tomorrow) - plague katana
- The Agana Abyss (The Icon) - shotguns or explosions
- The Ignatiev Integrity (A Gilded Cage) - fire, safe, shotgun
- The Lupei Sensitivity* (A Gilded Cage) - masseur and laptop (very hard if you want silent assassin)
- The Reziko Conundrum (A Gilded Cage) - shopkeeper, repairmen, landmines
- The Somsak Equation (Club 27) - bodies in freezer
Very hard: there is no trick to these, there is a high risk of failure, and it all comes down to your skills.
- The Kotti Paradigm (The Showstopper) - battle axe, suit only
- The Mallory Misfortune (Freedom Fighters) - deadly stalker
- The Meiko Incarnation (Situs Inversus) - ninja style cascade
Bullshit: even with perfect skills and execution, high risk of failure or tedium due to factors outside your control.
- The Wetzel Determination (The Showstopper) - impossible body hiding
- The Adamoli Fascination (The Showstopper) - mined exits
*All escalations marked with * use a particular kind of complication: there are mandatory disguises that can normally only be taken from NPCs, but you are not allowed to knock anyone out. You have only two choices in any of these escalations: kill NPCs for disguises and receive a penalty, or find the extra copy of the required disguise(s) hidden somewhere in the level just for this escalation. Be warned that the second option will always require very risky maneuvers and/or massive detours, making silent assassin runs of these escalations extra-hard.
Feel free to suggest adjustments - I haven't played some of these in a while, and I always go for silent assassin (but I'm trying to do these ratings for people who don't necessarily care about that).
Narpas Sword0
Member
Awesome, thanks
Nice list.
Kudos! Well done!
As for suggestions: I just played The Apeiron Sadness for the first time...and it was super easy. All it needs is a couple explosives and of the three targets at level 5, only one is anywhere near a civilian (the killing of which fails the level). Anything that would separate them when thrown (which is pretty much any item) would make that complication meaningless. I ended up doing all five levels together in around twenty minutes. Maybe fifteen.
I'd move it to Easy tier: you brute force the shit out of that, especially since it's all in explosions. No stealth in that bad boy.
Remembrance
Member
Yeah, you're right. I just remember being frustrated because I couldn't find a clean way to do it.
I also added short descriptions, since the titles don't tell you much.
Hank Scorpio
Member
Great stuff. Bookmarked
I'm in the same boat. It's looks great, but I'm not sure if I should wait for a sale.
I don't know, the stalker was never an issue for me. As long as he doesn't have line of sight I don't think he follows you. Also, the NPC picking up weapons mechanic was really useful for that escalation. I'd never actually seriously used that mechanic before, but now I realise how powerful it is.
I haven't noticed any but I wouldn't expect to either. Digital only titles aren't exactly a big sale item for retail stores. And that's not even considering that they are unlikely to offer a big discount ahead of the disc based version that releases at the end of January. If they want $60 for the disc, they can't be slashing the digital price now.
Primethius
Banned
I think my all opportunities trophy in Hokkaido glitched.
:/
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Remembrance
Member
My subtitles on PC have intermittently stopped working - no subtitles at all anywhere in the game. Weird.
By the end I decided it's not actually that bad. Sometimes you're hiding and it looks like he's coming straight for you, but if you sit tight and stay hidden, he actually just stops and walks away. I suspect this behavior is for intentionally building suspense.
Next week.
By the end I decided it's not actually that bad. Sometimes you're hiding and it looks like he's coming straight for you, but if you sit tight and stay hidden, he actually just stops and walks away. I suspect this behavior is for intentionally building suspense.
Next week.
True, but he always tended to do that when I was seconds away from killing the target, potentially catching me in the act.
It was only level 4 where he was an issue for me. Level 5 was incredibly easy.
For some reason, the Colorado main mission does not pop for me (the end where you investigate intel in the secret bunker), meaning I cannot complete that mission.
I hope this gets patched soon. Apparently this bug started appearing in the Hokkaido patch, but I have not seen a lot of mention of this bug (1 thread).
I hope this gets patched soon. Apparently this bug started appearing in the Hokkaido patch, but I have not seen a lot of mention of this bug (1 thread).
I'm not sure why, but the "do all opportunities in Paris" achievement won't unlock for me. I have all of the individual challenges related to the achievements done, but yet, I dunno.
And only on Paris, whenever I get my first kill on a run, the "Master Assassin" challenge pops, despite me having cleared it months ago. I wonder if those are interrelated, or if Paris is just kind of borked for me.
And only on Paris, whenever I get my first kill on a run, the "Master Assassin" challenge pops, despite me having cleared it months ago. I wonder if those are interrelated, or if Paris is just kind of borked for me.
Oldest Snake
Member
I'm having the same problem with that Master Assassin challenge. Only on Paris as well from what I can tell.
As for the opportunities, did you make sure to do each and every step? I've found that you can complete the opportunity but if you didn't make sure each step was checked off before moving onto the next it doesn't count it as having been completed.
Yeah, i remember having that issue in Marrakesh, I think it's because it's sometimes possible to skip steps in the opportunities.
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Deleted member 30609
Unconfirmed Member
The burn or crash target in the Colorado escalation sure would make a lot more sense if it was the mechanic with a path into two primo areas 
Is there a good way of dealing with that guy that doesn't involve leading him there with thrown items or dragging him?
Is there a good way of dealing with that guy that doesn't involve leading him there with thrown items or dragging him?
Remembrance
Member
No deals right now - the deepest discount was 10% on the whole package last month just before episode 6.
The burn or crash target in the Colorado escalation sure would make a lot more sense if it was the mechanic with a path into two primo areas
Is there a good way of dealing with that guy that doesn't involve leading him there with thrown items or dragging him?
Oh, level 3 wouldn't be much of a complication if level 2 was that easy.
My go-to method is to lead him there by dropping guns in his path, which is much more predictable (but I also had to throw something to make him see the second gun). You do have to remove two people from the area, which conveniently gives you two extra guns.
Monday, I believe? They said one every other week this month, IIRC.
bodyofanamerican
Member
What is the damn trick for "Guardian Angel". I've been depressing and undepressing this guy for 20 minutes and it won't pop.
Crazymoogle
Member
You have to get him to do his speech on the balcony and then "save" him.
Oldest Snake
Member
It won't pop in the mission either like a lot of the others do.