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Homeland: Season 3 - |Pledge Allegiance|

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Quidam

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I'd be quite happy with season 3 ending with Brody taking out some high-level Iranian guy (who is visiting Venezuela for some contrived reason) and dying in the process.

Then, season 4 is all about running Javadi, who is now in a very senior position. Basically, I want to see more of Javadi's actor!
 
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Scott32020

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foxtrot3d said:
Why is the CIA operating within the US with impunity?.
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Because "fuck the charter!"

The CIA probably has some domestic ops, but more stealthy and limited than you'll see on this show. As with NSA, these agencies likely have liberal (imaginative) interpretations of their mandate.
 
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chalkitdown1

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I really enjoyed the episode but of course it had more of the usual dumbness the show is renowned for.

Could that incoming CIA chief be any more of a cartoon character? He seems to solely exist to oppose Saul in anything he does or say, no matter how illogical it may be.
 
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Frost_Ace

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chalkitdown1 said:
I really enjoyed the episode but of course it had more of the usual dumbness the show is renowned for.

Could that incoming CIA chief be any more of a cartoon character? He seems to solely exist to oppose Saul in anything he does or say, no matter how illogical it may be.
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He's right though, I would have fired Saul's ass right away.
 
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Ekdrm2d1

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pulga said:
Welp, it was good while it lasted. Sad to see Homeland become shit again.

1. Carrie. Oh, Carrie. How many times must you (try to) fuck up an operation? If she's still on the CIA after this latest bout of insubordination, I'm fucking done with this trash. She's a goddamn liability to everyone involved.

Quinn should've put the bullet in her midsection, relieving us of her constant stupidity and sure to be groan-inducing pregnancy subplot.

2. Homeland apes Breaking Bad's made famous corpse-removal method, and they still fuck it up? BATHTUBS ARENT MEANT TO HOLD THE ACID, YO.

3. Mira's boyfriend is a spy? HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA



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HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

Showtime. Homeland. Never change. You bring the lols to my sundays.
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wow
 
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Talon

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RatskyWatsky said:
The problem is that they always give Carrie an excuse for acting like a deranged lunatic: "She's bipolar!" "She's off her meds!" "She's on her meds!" "She's upset!" "She's in love!" "She's pregnant!" I mean, it would be nice if we could go for a stretch of episodes
the rest of the series
without Carrie turning into a dumbass in distress whenever things get real.

Also, Brody isn't Carrie's family. He's a terrorist.
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D4Danger

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phazedplasma said:
I wish quinn would have shot carrie in the face.Shes done some stupid shit in this show, but that was by far the worst.
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definitely, Quinn should've aimed for the head.

blowing months of work on a top secret CIA mission because she's getting all emotional about Brody again or whatever is beyond dumb. even for this show.
 
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IdreamofHIME

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Best episode of the series, but it's taken way too long to get there. That should have been like episode 4, not 8.
So much filler and dead ends this season, what a waste of a great ending to last season.
 
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Ashhong

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inm8num2 said:
Way to miss the point entirely. Now you're just muddying the conversation and obnoxiously putting words in my mouth.

They've written in an affair to tell people Saul has neglected his wife. Then they've written in a scene where after reconciling, she expresses disappointment that he has to go away for work.

If you think it's normal for someone who's been married for 20-30 years, knowing how important and demanding their spouse's job is, to expect his/her spouse to prioritize family life over matters of national security, you're fooling yourself.

She knows what she's getting into in a marriage with Saul. To express disappointment that he can't be with her when she wants, given his responsibilities, is irrational.
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No you are missing the point. She is a human being. She has just rekindled the relationship with Saul, so of course she is going to have some expectations, no matter how irrational. She didn't do anything wrong by showing disappointment. If you think that a person, even one in her situation, shouldn't be allowed to express even a little bit of sadness, you are are the one that is fooling yourself. Stop watching TV and live in the real world.

GAF loves to harp on the women in TV (Mad Men, BrBa, etc) and expect the wives to be these obedient, emotionless robots. While I agree with the complains most of the times, this is just beyond ridiculous. She didnt even yell at Saul or do ANYTHING. She showed sadness, God forbid.
 
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Blader

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LordCanti said:
It's a little odd that they shot Carrie and no one heard the sound of the gunshot, isn't it? Quinn wasn't that far away.
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Wasn't the rifle silenced?

Quidam said:
I'd be quite happy with season 3 ending with Brody taking out some high-level Iranian guy (who is visiting Venezuela for some contrived reason) and dying in the process.

Then, season 4 is all about running Javadi, who is now in a very senior position. Basically, I want to see more of Javadi's actor!
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Doesn't Javadi have some kind of operation in Venezuela? I could have sworn that was mentioned early in the season and how I expected Brody's story to tie into the main plot.

I'm also assuming that Saul will use Brody to kill some Iranian leader and force a regime change that'll push Javadi up the ladder.
 
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Dany

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Ashhong said:
GAF loves to harp on the women in TV (Mad Men, BrBa, etc) and expect the wives to be these obedient, emotionless robots. While I agree with the complains most of the times, this is just beyond ridiculous. She didnt even yell at Saul or do ANYTHING. She showed sadness, God forbid.
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Who is GAF? Have they posted in this thread?
 
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sangreal

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was so happy when they shot carrie for trying to compromise the mission for brody's sake

guessing the lover is just crazy, not a spy. neither scenario makes sense though. Maybe he will find out the wife is a spy or something. Mayb e he even works for Saul

saul being the one holding brody was a fantastic twist
 
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RatskyWatsky

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Meredith Stiehm, one of the key original members of Homeland‘s A-list writing team, is returning to the Emmy-winning terrorism drama full-time, resuming her previous duties as executive producer.

Stiehm quietly returned to Homeland earlier this year to co-write the upcoming Season 3 finale with series co-creator Alex Gansa. (The two also co-penned the Season 2 closer.) “We’re thrilled to welcome Meredith back, as she’s been an integral part of Homeland from the beginning,” said Fox 21 president Bert Salke. “She’s a fantastic writer and this deal returns her to this hugely valuable asset as well as allows us to develop with her down the road.”
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Showrunner Shakeup: 'The Bridge's' Meredith Stiehm Departs for 'Homeland'

Though a showrunner shakeup is rarely ideal, the move proves advantageous for the staff of Homeland, lead by showrunner Alex Gansa. Stiehm, who was part of the initial six-member staff that was widely dubbed a “murderers row,” had been the only female voice in the room for the show’s first two seasons. (Judging Amy's Barbara Hall was brought aboard in Stiehm's absence.) As such, she was particularly hands-on in writing for the show’s lead, Carrie Mathison (Claire Danes), and brought personal experience (through her sister) to the character’s bi-polar storyline.
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Maybe Carrie will stop sucking now?
 
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AngmarsKing701

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Saul is going balls to the wall assuming he's on his way out. Love how he just doesn't give a fuck about Senator Douchebag.

Carrie is an idiot. Bu-bu-bu-but Brody is innocent! Who gives a flying fuck? Quinn should have splattered her brains all over the parking lot.

I hope Saul has something devious planned for Brody. Something Grinch-ily devious.
 
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sangreal

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inm8num2 said:
It's one thing for Carrie to compromise the mission because clearing Brody's name is important to her. It's another thing for her to think anybody else would remotely care about that.

Brody admitted on tape, later broadcast to the world, that he was going to kill many top officials. He didn't follow through but nevertheless Carrie should know that there is no such thing as clearing his name at this point.
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And he isn't innocent anyway. He murdered the Vice President which Carrie seems to conveniently forget
 
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foxtrot3d

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sangreal said:
And he isn't innocent anyway. He murdered the Vice President which Carrie seems to conveniently forget
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I think the show writers have seemingly forgotten this as well, somehow we're supposed to be sad for Brody and cheering for Carrie prove his innocence despite the fact that he killed the Vice President of the United States.
 
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inm8num2

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Now I know why I have always disliked Brody.

He reminds me of McG.

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dead souls

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Azula said:
It's too late for this show. This is Dexter all over again. At least Dexter was good for 4 seasons.
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Lol. Dexter at its strongest can't really compare to Homeland at its best.

You won't find a bigger Jimmy Smits fan on GAF than me, but there's no way season three of Dexter is anywhere near as good as this season of Homeland.
 
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inm8num2

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dead souls said:
Lol. Dexter at its strongest can't really compare to Homeland at its best.
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Sure it can. Seasons 1 and 2 of Dexter are easily better than anything in Homeland.

You won't find a bigger Jimmy Smits fan on GAF than me, but there's no way season three of Dexter is anywhere near as good as this season of Homeland.
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Ah, you're using the weakest of the first four seasons of Dexter as a benchmark for that show against Homeland. Now I see the problem! ;)
 
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dead souls

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inm8num2 said:
Ah, you're using the weakest of the first four seasons of Dexter as a benchmark for that show against Homeland. Now I see the problem! ;)
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Eh, season four sucks too outside of the great Lithgow performance. I think the only above average season of Dexter is season one.
 
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Fry

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This show at its worse (which isnt the current case) is nowhere near as bad as Dexter.

Gaf being retarded again.
 
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Toth

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foxtrot3d said:
I think the show writers have seemingly forgotten this as well, somehow we're supposed to be sad for Brody and cheering for Carrie prove his innocence despite the fact that he killed the Vice President of the United States.
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But he didn't 'kill' the Vice President. He was forced to give the code for the pacemaker in exchange for Carrie's life. Did Brody want him dead? Of course. But he never would have done what Nazir wanted him to do without Carrie being his hostage. However, it is still unclear on how much he really turned to the CIA...
 
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Dysun

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RatskyWatsky said:
I thought people generally liked season 7? (It was voted the 8th best show of the year in the last TV show of the Year thread...)
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Season 7 was bolstered by
Debra learning the truth
and a strong performance by Ray Stevenson, but otherwise it was as inept and muddled as the rest. Seasons 5,6, 8 are unanimously considered trash.

Morrigan Targaryen said:
Seriously? I haven't watched S8 of Dexter, but S7 was so bad it's pretty much the reason I haven't bothered with S8 yet...
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Season 8 is far worse than any other season, it is a complete embarrassment.
 
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foxtrot3d

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Toth said:
But he didn't 'kill' the Vice President. He was forced to give the code for the pacemaker in exchange for Carrie's life. Did Brody want him dead? Of course. But he never would have done what Nazir wanted him to do without Carrie being his hostage. However, it is still unclear on how much he really turned to the CIA...
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Brody: "I'm killing you."

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Skyrim

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finally watched the episode.
thank u based Brody for stopping annoying Carrie.

Carried needs to tell his baby that Daddy is not crack up as he used to be
 
RangersFan

RangersFan

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I gotta admit, the writers have done a heck of a job bringing me back. I was so down on this show because of season 2 but they have actually made me look forward to each episode again.
 
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AngmarsKing701

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RangersFan said:
I gotta admit, the writers have done a heck of a job bringing me back. I was so down on this show because of season 2 but they have actually made me look forward to each episode again.
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I'm not quite there where I look forward to it every week, but I admit that I love the spycraft stuff. Carrie coming home and reaching into a cabinet to find the phone -- burner? -- that she uses to talk with Saul. Dar Adal's "scare tactics" conversation with that guy, "softballing" him because he knew he had Carrie as the catcher on the inside should such a conversation cause a phone call. Definitely things they are doing that suggest not only that they are working in the intelligence community, but also require intelligence from the viewer to follow along. I'll admit they're "bang you over the head with this here club" with a lot of the plot lines, but I like the subtle touches and how they're using them. I've seen TWD use this to great effect this season as well, adding characterization without saying a word.
 
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Toth

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foxtrot3d said:
Brody: "I'm killing you."

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I am saying he would not have been in that situation if it was not for Carrie. He had his chance to kill the VP in season one but faltered. I was under the impression he would work on the inside to sabotage him but not kill him.

That being said, he did take some joy in finally getting revenge for Isla.
 
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