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In a conversation with Engadget, Forbidden West's game director Mathijs de Jonge spoke of the incredibly fast load times the PlayStation 5 is capable of, and how that compared to the Horizon Zero Dawn experience on PS4.

“In Horizon Zero Dawn, we called it fast travel, but it could take maybe a minute to actually load,” de Jonge said.

“With the PS5, it’s maybe four or five seconds, it loads so quickly that players can’t even read the hints.

“We had to add a very simple feature where it hangs on the loading screen for enough time so you can actually read at least one hint while it loads.”

If you're playing Horizon Forbidden West on PS5, you'll notice that you have to tap X to move on past the loading screen, so you definitely have as much time as you need to read those gameplay tips. (Update: you can actually turn this off in the settings menu so the game loads right away without the need to press X. Just look for the option 'Stand By Screen Mode'.)

Horizon Forbidden West on PS5 Loads So Fast the Devs Had To Make It Slower so You Can Read the Tips - IGN

Horizon Forbidden West loads so fast on the PS5's SSD that developer Guerilla Games actually had to deliberately slow them down in order to provide players enough time to read the loading screen tool tips.

ign.com

 

[mckmas8808]

WOW!!!

 

[ManaByte]

Who cares about hints beside the ego of the dev who wrote them? Patch it so you can bypass that.

 

[IntentionalPun]

Stupid

 

[Ulysses 31]

Not sure artificially increasing load times is something to pat yourself on the back about.

 

[Skifi28]

How about removing the silly tips and loading faster instead?

 

[ClosBSAS]

Lol hyperbole? Did u see how fast doom eternal loads? On a normal SSD? On an HDD? I mean, this SSD hyperbole needs to stop. It's nothing new and nothing mindblowing.

Also, yeah...tips and hints ..who reads those?

 

[emivita]

Who cares about hints beside the ego of the dev who wrote them? Patch it so you can bypass that.

How about removing the silly tips and loading faster instead?

(Update: you can actually turn this off in the settings menu so the game loads right away without the need to press X. Just look for the option for 'Stand By Screen Mode'.)

 

[SLB1904]

this SSD hyperbole needs to stop. It's nothing new and nothing mindblowing.

playing spiderman, returnal, ratchet, re8 and many other games with no loading screen is something mind-blowing to me.

 

[Sleepwalker]

Fuck the hints, maybe print a manual if you want people to read your stupid hints.

Fastest loading is best always

 

[Mod of War]

Add a toggle to turn off hints and enjoy that blip loading.

 

[Synless]

In no fucking way do I want to wait to read the shitty tips.

 

[SLB1904]

(Update: you can actually turn this off in the settings menu so the game loads right away without the need to press X. Just look for the option for 'Stand By Screen Mode'.)

welp, first thing I'm going to do.

edit: im confuse by some of the comments in here. can we disable this or not?

 

[Mr Moose]

Seems dumb, who cares about random tips? It's called fast travel for a reason.

 

[Punished Miku]

Hopefully they can make it even slower next time and add more great tips in part 3.

 

[Rikku-X]

Fuck your hints, you made a generic open world game. Anyone by now already knows how to play.

 

[Magic Carpet]

O only played an hour last night after the midnight unlock. Got up this morning from a completely shut down PS5 and was really surprised at how fast it loaded where it saved off. I'm still not sure exactly where it's auto saving. I've yet to save manually at a campfire, not that far into the game yet.

 

[Corndog]

Lol hyperbole? Did u see how fast doom eternal loads? On a normal SSD? On an HDD? I mean, this SSD hyperbole needs to stop. It's nothing new and nothing mindblowing.

Also, yeah...tips and hints ..who reads those?

My computer loaded the original game fairly fast. Never timed it though.

 

[SLB1904]

Fuck your hints, you made a generic open world game. Anyone by now already knows how to play.

why the hostility? even with the hints still miles better than dying light 2 for example.

 

[Captain Toad]

They should just have Alloy read them out loud after the load.

"Hmmm. I can click L3 to run and then press X to reach further ledges. I'll have to try that."

(I'm waiting until after Elden Ring to play this, in case it's not obvious I don't know the controls or gameplay tips)

 

[Mod of War]

(Update: you can actually turn this off in the settings menu so the game loads right away without the need to press X. Just look for the option for 'Stand By Screen Mode'.)

Yep, confirmed. Concern crisis averted.

Things We Wish We Knew Before Playing Horizon Forbidden West

Before you set off into the Forbidden West, there are some things you should make sure you know.

www.thegamer.com

Stand By Screen Mode will alter the loading screens and how they work. By default, it will be set so that you have to press to continue on every loading screen - this gives you time to read the displayed tips or to ready yourself. However, switching it to Immediate means it will load as soon as it is ready, often in only a few seconds.

 

[ethomaz]

Who cares about hints beside the ego of the dev who wrote them? Patch it so you can bypass that.

You can by pass disabling it on Option or just hitting X.
You don't need any patch for that... it is there since Day 0.

 

[ethomaz]

welp, first thing I'm going to do.

edit: im confuse by some of the comments in here. can we disable this or not?

Well... you don't expect the posters to actually read the article?

Yes you can disable... always could disable or just hit X... there are these two options.

 

[Banjo64]

What a load of bull shit

 

[ZehDon]

That’s the dumbest decision I’ve seen in a while. Why the hell would you admit to that?

 

[Filben]

The same was said on Ghost of Tsushima.

And the title (of the article) is misleading. They said, "We had to add a very simple feature where it hangs on the loading screen for enough time so you can actually read at least one hint while it loads.”

This feature could be the press X prompt. It doesn't specifically says they artificially made the loading times longer. Also, it doesn't make sense. Why make them longer if you have a button prompt in the first place? There's no need for longer loading times then.

This is stagily and nothing but playing to the gallery by IGN.

 

[MarkMe2525]

This thread really shows who does who does not actually read source material before giving their hot take.

 

[iHaunter]

Who cares about hints beside the ego of the dev who wrote them? Patch it so you can bypass that.

You can disable it in the settings.

 

[Omnipunctual Godot]

How about removing the silly tips and loading faster instead?

Or at least add an option to turn it off in the options menu.

 

[SLB1904]

Or at least add an option to turn it off in the options menu.

wtf lol

 

[Aenima]

If its not in the thread tittle, it dosent exist.
Its good that thers an option to disable the hints to load as fast as possible, and is also good to have slower loadings with hints for the ppl that find them usefull.

Kinda reminds me Ghost of Tsushima had loadings with hints, but loaded so fast i could only read a few of them.

 

[Duchess]

The speed of loading a saved game in R+C on PS5 is insane. Can't be more than 3 seconds from selecting Load from the title screen.

 

[Physiognomonics]

Stupid

Exactly this.

 

[ReBurn]

I remember when games these things called manuals and they put the hints in those.

 

[GHG]

This thread is fantastic. Just waiting for a post to declare the statement not true and then it will be complete.

Edit: Banjo64 you poor soul. Why did it have to be you?

 

[ReBurn]

The same was said on Ghost of Tsushima.

And the title (of the article) is misleading. They said, "We had to add a very simple feature where it hangs on the loading screen for enough time so you can actually read at least one hint while it loads.”

This feature could be the press X prompt. It doesn't specifically says they artificially made the loading times longer. Also, it doesn't make sense. Why make them longer if you have a button prompt in the first place? There's no need for longer loading times then.

This is stagily and nothing but playing to the gallery by IGN.

They're just downplaying it to drown out the last gen holding everyone back people by saying the hint screens are a feature. But if it weren't for last gen they probably wouldn't have made the "hint" screens.

 

[Banjo64]

This thread is fantastic. Just waiting for a post to declare the statement not true and then it will be complete.

Edit: Banjo64 you poor soul. Why did it have to be you?

Fade me fam

To be honest the headline in isolation did sound ridiculous.

If I was Guerrilla I would have just scrapped the hints and flexed the short loading times, they should be proud of them.

 

[GHG]

Fade me fam

To be honest the headline in isolation did sound ridiculous.

If I was Guerrilla I would have just scrapped the hints and flexed the short loading times, they should be proud of them.

Yep, agree, to be honest it should be the default option.

But I guess they are assuming most people need an extra shove in the right direction for whatever reason.

 

[Rest]

(Update: you can actually turn this off in the settings menu so the game loads right away without the need to press X. Just look for the option 'Stand By Screen Mode'.)

That should be the default. Load screens exist because of technical limitations. If the limitations are gone, so too should load screens.

 

[MasterCornholio]

But we have an option for you. Thankfully.

Entertaining thread though.

 

[DonF]

Remember the loading screen tips on NES and SNES games?? Yeah me neither. Stupid guerilla.

 

[Shane89]

lol @ kids screaming everywhere.

there is goddamn setting to keep you happy

 

[Javthusiast]

Fuck your hints, you made a generic open world game. Anyone by now already knows how to play.

I love the Horizon series, but

 

[Gamerguy84]

I'll be honest the hints screen helped me last game. It was way more than just pres O to roll. It was usually combat tactics or weapons strategy, something useful. The PS4 had no choice though to take over a minute to load.

I'm turning it off tonigh. If people want hints google is close by.

Anyone try it yet? I'll find out in a few hours.

 

[Elbow Identity Shallow]

Remember the loading screen tips on NES and SNES games?? Yeah me neither. Stupid guerilla.

I think the first Dragon Quest was around 50kb in size, the first Castlevania was a little more than that and going from memory I think Super Mario Bros. was only around the 30kb mark, I imagine when the newer consoles reduce their game sizes to something like that we'll all be happy with the complete absence of hint screens then.
Not many did but some of the larger SNES games did actually have loading screens, no tips though as they weren't there for that long. Also, it's probably worth remembering that Nintendo introduced the Famicom Disk System as a solution to the ever expanding size of games while trying to keep the costs of those games down and there was certainly more than enough time for hints there. In reality though, instead you got Mario and Luigi arguing about what colour the loading screen should be.
I suppose you could also say the same about the Satellaview because once you actually had the game there was still loading to be done.

At least here there's an option to disable hints screens in some games now.
As somebody who grew up with the old 8bit computers in the 80s I can remember what it was like to spend 30 minutes trying to load a game with fiends and even when you got to the end of the tape the game was on, there was no guarantee that it had loaded successful. It would have been a hell of a bonus back then to have new things on the screen to read.

 

[clintar]

They intentionally slowed it down? Shouldn't that be the optional setting?

 

[sendit]

Who cares about hints beside the ego of the dev who wrote them? Patch it so you can bypass that.

Agreed. However, you can disable it in the settings.

 

[Darlingcognito]

It's just amazing I doubt we've ever seen such a feature nor will again for the next 50 years at least.

 

[G-Bus]

Even with it not toggled off I find you can press x pretty well as soon as you seen the screen.

Non issue either way.

 

[DavidGzz]

I was like, why not just put a prompt to press X as default that way you can read if you want or skip it?