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Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered forces PSN login for PC users if they decide to upgrade
pudel
Member
CDPR? Dude, they are the owner of gog. Just click the .exe and go into the game. Launcher is complete optional and you dont need to register or something. As it should be everywhere.
EA? Seems they doesnt want any launcher for Dragon Age anymore. They are on the right track (at least on this topic)
Valve? Its the pc games store.
Ubisoft...correct. Maybe we can get them to make this thing optional. But it doesnt work when you give excuses all the time. Somewhere you have to start to fight this shit back. Also for Ubi the launcher is basically their own store as well. Will be difficult.
Optimus Lime
(L3) + (R3) | Spartan rage activated
You know what's a really good idea?
Reading the thread before you comment.
I was replying to this claim:
You need to make an account on GOG to play single player games. That's how you purchase said games.
You need to make an account with EA. And Ubisoft. And Valve. That's the point. 'Not having to make an account on PC to play single player games' is not accurate.
Try reading the thread properly before you start mouthing off.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
PSN forced login is an online DRM. You can’t play the game you purchased offline.
That’s not even getting into the PC players in 170 countries that can no longer access the game.
There’s no point to it outside of Sony wanting control, just like they’re bending PlayStation console buyers over again and again. Your Papa Sony sucks dick.
That’s not even getting into the PC players in 170 countries that can no longer access the game.
There’s no point to it outside of Sony wanting control, just like they’re bending PlayStation console buyers over again and again. Your Papa Sony sucks dick.
pudel
Member
But hogisland is right. On maybe 90% of the SP games on steam you dont need any login/account. On gog its more like 100%. We just talk about these big "AAA" corpos and their "special needs".
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Wait, what? I thought you only needed to sign in once and then you were fine. You need to be always online to play?
Optimus Lime
(L3) + (R3) | Spartan rage activated
Steam IS the login/account. That's the entire point. Hogland's argument was that it's not normal to have to create an account on the PC to play single player games. Steam is account based.
It's really not that difficult of a concept to grasp.
graywolf323
Member
you don’t, I think it’s a poorly worded way of saying you have to be online the first time
but a LOT of games are like that on PC
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Then that’s fine. I thought you straight up couldn’t play offline.
pudel
Member
Yep, Steam is like the Playstation store. If you can explain me, how you want to buy yr games digital without an account...i am all ear. Its what happens afterwards what annoys most people...to login AGAIN into a game for no reason at all.
Optimus Lime
(L3) + (R3) | Spartan rage activated
I don't really feel like explaining anything. It's all pretty much self explanatory.
Mr Moose
Member
You're lying.
GHG
Gold Member
Biggest load of bullshit I've seen on this forum in a while.
Which reincarnated banned alt is this?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
GHG
Gold Member
MMaRsu
Member
This is simply not true. Maybe learn about the topic at hand before you start spouting nonsense
MMaRsu
Member
Wrong
Because it's not worth it to them to operate in the countries where barely anyone buys videogames.
It sucks but it's like 0,001 procent of the countries buying games.
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sainraja
Member
Interesting. So it is very much present in games by other publishers. Sony's just the latest one to be added to that list. If people settled with the others, they should eventually settle or make peace with Sony's login as well. I do wonder if their outrage for those other publishers was just as loud.
Regardless, you would think they would all find a better non-frictional way of getting people to "link" their accounts but that is not to be.
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SmokedMeat
Gamer™
That’s what I’ve read.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Maybe take your own advice before jumping to defend Sony.
God of War Ragnarök's PC port is great, but thanks to Sony stubbornness, all we're talking about is that stupid PSN controversy again
Sony has once again drawn ire from PC gamers by adding a PSN requirement to God of War Ragnarök.
www.windowscentral.com
Frustratingly, though, most "thumbs down" ratings from players bring up an issue that has nothing to do with performance at all: the fact that God of War Ragnarök requires players to sign in with a PlayStation Network (PSN) account and remain online in order to enjoy the game.
At first glance, asking fans to create a PSN account doesn't seem like a big deal, as they're free to make and Microsoft has put similar requirements in some of its own games without noteworthy controversy. The difference, however, is that PSN isn't available in over 170 countries and territories worldwide, effectively preventing anyone who lives in these regions from buying Ragnarök. The hook into PlayStation's network here also doesn't benefit the player in any way, and just seems to be a form of always-online DRM that forces you to stay connected to the internet while playing the single player title.
graywolf323
Member
Windows Central isn’t remotely trustworthy…Maybe take your own advice before jumping to defend Sony.
God of War Ragnarök's PC port is great, but thanks to Sony stubbornness, all we're talking about is that stupid PSN controversy again
Sony has once again drawn ire from PC gamers by adding a PSN requirement to God of War Ragnarök.
Frustratingly, though, most "thumbs down" ratings from players bring up an issue that has nothing to do with performance at all: the fact that God of War Ragnarök requires players to sign in with a PlayStation Network (PSN) account and remain online in order to enjoy the game.
At first glance, asking fans to create a PSN account doesn't seem like a big deal, as they're free to make and Microsoft has put similar requirements in some of its own games without noteworthy controversy. The difference, however, is that PSN isn't available in over 170 countries and territories worldwide, effectively preventing anyone who lives in these regions from buying Ragnarök. The hook into PlayStation's network here also doesn't benefit the player in any way, and just seems to be a form of always-online DRM that forces you to stay connected to the internet while playing the single player title.
reports from Reddit & Steam Community are that the offline mode seems to be broken at this time, some are reporting they’ve been able to get it to work offline and others are saying it’s only requiring online when launched, this isn’t how Ghost of Tsushima works
Would I be able to play God of War Ragnarok work offline/on airplane mode/no wifi on the Steam Deck? :: God of War Ragnarök General Discussions
Preparing for a trip and wanted to know if I could play the game when I have little to no access to wifi or internet in general.
MMaRsu
Member
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Windows Central isn’t remotely trustworthy…
reports from Reddit & Steam Community are that the offline mode seems to be broken at this time, some are reporting they’ve been able to get it to work offline and others are saying it’s only requiring online when launched, this isn’t how Ghost of Tsushima works
Would I be able to play God of War Ragnarok work offline/on airplane mode/no wifi on the Steam Deck? :: God of War Ragnarök General Discussions
Preparing for a trip and wanted to know if I could play the game when I have little to no access to wifi or internet in general.steamcommunity.com
Did you bother to read your own posts? Requiring an online connection to sign in everytime you want to play the game is the exact opposite of playing offline!
Stop shilling.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
So no reply because you know you’re wrong.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Seeing people that don't even play on PC get mad about PC gamers not wanting this shit forced on them is the funniest shit.
Yoboman
Member
The sooner PC gamers realise they have zero bargaining power over Sony the sooner they can move on. Sony doesn't care about your tantrums, you contribute about 1% of their revenue if we are being generous and the most valuable thing you are to them is an MAU number. You are second class gamers to Sony. They simply don't care.
MMaRsu
Member
No, it's probably a bug.
Ghost of Tsushima doesn't work like this. Nor do any of their other SP titles.
I laughed because you 'read something' and inmediatly think that's how it works for all their titles.
GHG
Gold Member
That's because it's no longer PCMR, it's fast turning in to a green rat refugee camp.
I say it's high time we shut our borders for good.
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graywolf323
Member
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Is that why they removed the PSN requirement from Helldivers II after the review bombing?
graywolf323
Member
sure but remember how everyone claimed the issue then was the fact Sony was trying to add it after the fact?
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Tsushima doesn’t work like that.
That doesn’t mean Sony isn’t going to try and push further with their latest release. I don’t trust Sony to not pull some crap that doesn’t benefit the customer.
All evidence points to them forcing a sign in everytime, which serves no purpose for a single player game. I’m glad the community is making a stink about it.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
The people who pay to play online are the last ones to lecture anybody about bargaining power.
nightmare-slain
Gold Member
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MMaRsu
Member
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sainraja
Member
Well, you have to connected to the internet to log into any account though... he was addressing a different point you had made.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
That's not the point. The point is that people complained, Sony listened and pulled back.sure but remember how everyone claimed the issue then was the fact Sony was trying to add it after the fact?
HogIsland
Member
I feel like us gals have been pretty clear that we hate all of these.
Cakeboxer
Member
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Reported for assuming my gender.
pudel
Member
These are all store accounts (except PSN), where nobody wants to be and which are forced over the store account, where you actually bought the game (because players want to be there).
BacklashWave534
Member
It’s been zero minutes since a Sony fanboy thought we actually cared about their opinion.
GametimeUK
Member
I don't see a benefit for forcing this on users. It could easily exist without the PSN requirement.
However, at least for those like me who don't mind signing in we can unlock Trophies etc. It gives the user some sort of cool functionality that I care about at the very least.
But also so many other games have their own launchers and sign ins, but for some reason it seems even more unacceptable when Sony do it.
However, at least for those like me who don't mind signing in we can unlock Trophies etc. It gives the user some sort of cool functionality that I care about at the very least.
But also so many other games have their own launchers and sign ins, but for some reason it seems even more unacceptable when Sony do it.
HogIsland
Member
It just goes to show Sony is more occupied by collecting telemetry and boosting their activity numbers than providing a good experience to players. They think this comes for free without any hit to bottom line sales, but they're wrong.
Yoboman
Member
Oh no they won't getting the miniscule numbers that PC ports are gettingi use steam and if a game requires another account then i'm not buying it. that goes for sony, ea, ubisoft, etc.
we'll just not buy their games thensony's loss.
Like I said you're too small in their revenue for them to care. You're not throwing weight around with a boycott when you weren't buying to start with and when Sony has no reliance at all on PC for success
Shane89
Member
Technically not true, you have cloud gaming (which is virtually, a store) with a premium PS Plus account.
pudel
Member
Doubt this works on PC....does it?
And even if it would....and I just dont want/need it. Make it optional for people who want these extra "services".