Also the combat music in that video really stands out...
The audiovisual experience gives me the same overwhelming feeling as watching the opening for the first Transformers movie.
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Horizon Zero Dawn Spoiler-free Impressions (for real this time)
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The audiovisual experience gives me the same overwhelming feeling as watching the opening for the first Transformers movie.
LastMinuteHero
Member
Don't if you are just going to get one game for it, though　the library is very strong
Putting the rest in the spoiler thread.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=230707320&postcount=695
Is this on a regular PS4? :O
Eien1no1Yami
Member
Ok, for those that have the game and played it, I have some questions
1)I heard that the main missions, for the most part, have humans as enemies and knowing that human AI is pretty mad or mediocre at best, it kind of disappoints me.
2)Although the big machines are a treat to fight, the smaller ones are not so smart and you can easily cheese them by killing a dozen of them just of them just by hiding in the grass and not actually fighting them, which reminds me of AC of course, but I would have wanted this to be the case for only the humans in this game, not for the machines too.
3)Did someone find any Killzone references or easter eggs anywhere
?Just say yes or no
and spoiler tag it please
1)I heard that the main missions, for the most part, have humans as enemies and knowing that human AI is pretty mad or mediocre at best, it kind of disappoints me.
2)Although the big machines are a treat to fight, the smaller ones are not so smart and you can easily cheese them by killing a dozen of them just of them just by hiding in the grass and not actually fighting them, which reminds me of AC of course, but I would have wanted this to be the case for only the humans in this game, not for the machines too.
3)Did someone find any Killzone references or easter eggs anywhere
?Just say yes or no and spoiler tag it please
If you watch the video Miami posted (it's not very spoilery) you'll see that other humans are currently fighting the big enemy emergently.
I mean the other humans seem completely useless in a fight against this big enemy, but I guess in theory they could do some damage before you reach the thing.
michaelius
Banned
Ok, for those that have the game and played it, I have some questions
1)I heard that the main missions, for the most part, have humans as enemies and knowing that human AI is pretty mad or mediocre at best, it kind of disappoints me.
2)Although the big machines are a treat to fight, the smaller ones are not so smart and you can easily cheese them by killing a dozen of them just of them just by hiding in the grass and not actually fighting them, which reminds me of AC of course, but I would have wanted this to be the case for only the humans in this game, not for the machines too.
3)Did someone find any Killzone references or easter eggs anywhere
and spoiler tag it please
So 2 of those are statements.
Daaaaauymmm
I doubt the IQ is that good on the OG.
Eien1no1Yami
Member
"Those are not questions, professor".gif
1) I don't think you are fighting humans for "the most part" in the main missions. Why would you even think that?
onemanasylum
Banned
Ok, for those that have the game and played it, I have some questions
1)I heard that the main missions, for the most part, have humans as enemies and knowing that human AI is pretty mad or mediocre at best, it kind of disappoints me.
2)Although the big machines are a treat to fight, the smaller ones are not so smart and you can easily cheese them by killing a dozen of them just of them just by hiding in the grass and not actually fighting them, which reminds me of AC of course, but I would have wanted this to be the case for only the humans in this game, not for the machines too.
3)Did someone find any Killzone references or easter eggs anywhere
and spoiler tag it please
You made two incorrect statements.... not questions.
Some reviews did complain about this. The Eurogamer one, for example.
LastMinuteHero
Member
Yes he's playing on regular ps4
Eien1no1Yami
Member
Thanks for clarifying.
Because some reviewers in my country said that as a negative and I found it odd too.I trust those reviewers they're not lying or anything, so I really had to ask.
@Miami and Lamp that you finished the game,it would be great if you clarified too
Edit: Again sorry for the mistake above.The actual question was if someone encountered any of those things in my statements
piccio_ssl
Member
just say that some italian reviewer couldn't help himself to take a picture of it and made a news about it, dropping the "spoiler" directly in the title
Putting the rest in the spoiler thread.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=230707320&postcount=695
oh my fucking god
The outlier? It's an outlier for a reason.
I'm not saying I agree with it or anything. Just pointing out that some people did find this a problem. Being an outlier doesn't invalidate what someone says.
Why don't you find out for yourself when the game releases?
onemanasylum
Banned
I guess, but when 50 people say one thing and 1 person says another, 99% of the time the 50 are right and will mirror most everyone elses experience.
Well statistically speaking there are times when you can disregard an outlier. Having said that I, have made my position on Eurogamer and USgamer clear in the review thread (which is that they are as valid as any other review). You can go read it.
Reviewers and gaffers have said the human AI is clearly not as good as robot AIs. I don't dispute that, specially when so many are saying it. But how many are saying "man, I wish I was not fighting mostly boring humans in the main missions". In this case if one or two reviewer complains about it but over 70 others don't than I will disregard it as outlier(s).
Wind's Howling
Member
When people start doubting if this is on the original PS4 or Pro, you know you have magic.
LastMinuteHero
Member
I wonder what kind of blood ritual or sacrifice they did to achieve this. Maybe axing GG Cambridge was their equivalent of
the eclipse from berserk lol
onemanasylum
Banned
I heard they had to sacrifice Statham.
The whole thing is opinions, though. There is no "99% of the time 50 are right". Nobody is wrong, nobody is right. It's just opinions. Opinions you may or may not agree with.
Opinion can be swayed by personal circumstances and tastes, so maybe the "outliers" just weren't in the right place when they played it; but regardless of that it's still their opinion.
The EG guy says that human encounters in main missions were numerous and tedious while many others didn't complain about that – perhaps this critic had less time to play so mainlined the central quest and got fatigue, while other critics had more time to free-roam or sidequest? Perhaps he encountered more dull AI routines by chance?
Who knows, but there's no way we can call it invalid.
Anyway, we should really get some early impression folk in here to chime in
PS i'm not a big fan of EG or USG or anything, I don't really care for reviews. I worked as a journalist/reviewer once and after seeing what it's like I decided I'd rather make my own mind up and do things for my own enjoyment.
onemanasylum
Banned
The whole thing is opinions, though. There is no "99% of the time 50 are right". Nobody is wrong, nobody is right. It's just opinions. Opinions you may or may not agree with.
Opinion can be swayed by personal circumstances and tastes, so maybe the "outliers" just weren't in the right place when they played it; but regardless of that it's still their opinion.
The EG guy says that human encounters in main missions were numerous and tedious while many others didn't complain about that – perhaps this critic had less time to play so mainlined the central quest and got fatigue, while other critics had more time to free-roam or sidequest? Perhaps he encountered more dull AI routines by chance?
Who knows, but there's no way we can call it invalid.
Anyway, we should really get some early impression folk in here to chime in
Obviously, and I stated my opinion on theirs. Nothing more or less.
Nightengale
Member
Oh god the mental image ahahahahahaha.
Right on
gundamkyoukai
Member
This made me laugh way more than it should .
Still this game has to be almost the peak for open world games gfx this gen.
MiamiWesker
Member
Yes that's when I panicked, when I saw a pack of scavengers randomly join the fight and i notice all the NPCs were dead. That was all unplanned, unscripted, the next time I loaded the save I prepared and was able to take them all down.
Very hard. If that tail that somehow went right over my head hit me it would be instant death.
Oh and yes on regular PS4. This game is a technical marvel.
One other thing to note, I cut the video to start to soon, if you notice the second it starts and the bull is rushing, he's not rushing at me. There is an NPC dude crouching in the grass and he set up a bunch of traps and that's what brings the bull down.
i'm super excited for this game now but it clashes with zelda. two amazing games i'm looking forward to but not enough time for both
I can play Zelda on my lap, so I'm being ridiculous and going in on both
onemanasylum
Banned
Did you read just 1 review?
Usual Suspect
Member
Just uauuu!!!
Shame Forest Guy got banned, this would've made his day.
I thought those saying it gives Uncharted 4 a run for it's money were being a little ridiculous, but it really does.
MiamiWesker
Member
Ok, for those that have the game and played it, I have some questions
1)I heard that the main missions, for the most part, have humans as enemies and knowing that human AI is pretty mad or mediocre at best, it kind of disappoints me.
2)Although the big machines are a treat to fight, the smaller ones are not so smart and you can easily cheese them by killing a dozen of them just of them just by hiding in the grass and not actually fighting them, which reminds me of AC of course, but I would have wanted this to be the case for only the humans in this game, not for the machines too.
3)Did someone find any Killzone references or easter eggs anywhere
and spoiler tag it please
1. Not really, or it's a mix.
2. Maybe two types but trust me they are insignificant compared to majority of the game.
3.
Yes...
2. Busy work days, no time.
What, where?? please Drop something in spoiler thread!!
Good game, but brings nothing new to the table. Played it for around 30 hours, loved graphics, long range fights, traps, stealth and 2nd half of the story. Hated melee combat, boring dialogues, kinda repetetive side activities and the fact that cities feel "dead". There are tons of characters but they just looks like a classic filler. Plus you can't even push them - they just stand there like a wall, barely reacting to anything you do. It annoys the shit out of me even though I know it's not a big issue.
Did read what I wrote? Did I say their review is invalid? I merely said that they can write the review that they think is correct and I will exercise my right to judge it's content by comparing it to others. And in this case concluding that fighting mainly human AI in the main missions is not an issue. That is my conclusion.The whole thing is opinions, though. There is no "99% of the time 50 are right". Nobody is wrong, nobody is right. It's just opinions. Opinions you may or may not agree with.
Opinion can be swayed by personal circumstances and tastes, so maybe the "outliers" just weren't in the right place when they played it; but regardless of that it's still their opinion.
The EG guy says that human encounters in main missions were numerous and tedious while many others didn't complain about that perhaps this critic had less time to play so mainlined the central quest and got fatigue, while other critics had more time to free-roam or sidequest? Perhaps he encountered more dull AI routines by chance?
Who knows, but there's no way we can call it invalid.
Anyway, we should really get some early impression folk in here to chime in
PS i'm not a big fan of EG or USG or anything, I don't really care for reviews. I worked as a journalist/reviewer once and after seeing what it's like I decided I'd rather make my own mind up and do things for my own enjoyment.
Eien1no1Yami
Member
Thanks a lot man.
nelsonroyale
Member
Nightengale
Member
Bu...but but.. but how?! how a game can look so good on such an ancient hardware?
those screens you posted look like bullshots, how did they achieve such an IQ and visuals on OG PS4??
It's black magic.
ronaldthump
Member
Just beat my first thunderjaw. That was like a fucking boss fight in any other game. Tried about 20 times before I could do it. Truly insane how intense it was. The sense of accomplishment when it went down is sooo good. And when it did, all that creeamy creamm EXP.
Also fought
. So so so so good. Both took a few tries to take down but man, this game...
And that's just creatures you can find on the maps. Flatmate came home when I ran into the
and he sat down and watched me fight it and he was like "this game is fucking crazy."
Anyone went to the far top right?
Also fought
stormbird + behemoth
And that's just creatures you can find on the maps. Flatmate came home when I ran into the
behemoth
Anyone went to the far top right?
I wandered all the way up there and there's a map icon and the area is protected by robots but seemingly, there's nothing I can do here?!!
onemanasylum
Banned
Sorry, the 'invalid' line was re onemanasylum's post (where he implicated it was invalid) and I just copied your post in as the sentiment mostly overlapped. Should have delineated the responses.