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[Zoe]

The same way a luxury car or rolex ad isn't generated at the general public, so what? If she want's to focus on smaller group of people that her style resonates with then let it be.

Studies have shown that harsh motivational methods but I'm not sure this is one of them. Sure a parent verbally or physically abusing a child the data is obvious. Will this actually qualify as "harshly critical motivation" though. I'd love to see the specific study that focus on this type of specific motivation.

How is this not "harshly critical"? It's telling people that they are doing it wrong.

 

[TAJ]

Sure, they can be. So can obesity: science is telling us there are significant genetic and epidemiological factors to obesity.

And have we suddenly evolved those in the last 30 years? I think not.

 

[waterydave]

iI takes 10 minutes to do 3 sets of deadlifts.

Do Deadlifts 3 times a week X 3 Sets

You will look awesome

You have no excuse

 

[Zoe]

iI takes 10 minutes to do 3 sets of deadlifts.

Do Deadlifts 3 times a week X 3 Sets

You will look awesome

You have no excuse

It takes more than 30 minutes of deadlifts a week.

 

[shakin_haitian]

Don't be ridiculous.

You're insane if you think the message of her original Facebook post was intended to be purely motivational. Sure, I suppose it's in the eye of the beholder, but I didn't take it that way at all.

People make excuses not to do all sorts of healthy/worthwhile things, and that's a legitimate issue. Perhaps she did want to motivate those who struggle with their weight, but IMO she did it in an incredibly tone deaf and condescending fashion.

This would be a valid point if aimed at twelve year olds, but the people complaining about this are adults. If you're an adult that can't handle harsh criticism, you have much bigger problems than just being a fatty mcfatass.

edit: Ignore my post, I misread what you said.

 

[shakin_haitian]

iI takes 10 minutes to do 3 sets of deadlifts.

Do Deadlifts 3 times a week X 3 Sets

You will look awesome

You have no excuse

You can't outlift a bad diet.

 

[apocalidiot]

Perhaps she did want to motivate those who struggle with their weight, but IMO she did it in an incredibly tone deaf and condescending fashion.

Why does everyone demand that everything is suitable to their sensibilities... and if its not they have the right to be overly offended about it? This is just one woman sharing a message. Why does everyone feel entitled to the idea that all things must be acceptable to them, or else they're going to be fucking dicks about it on the internet?

 

[SeanR1221]

You can't outlift a bad diet.

Tell that to MrToughPants.

Dude eats humongous meals and looks pretty cut up.

 

[Hawkian]

Sure.

ffs.

 

[studyguy]

You can't outlift a bad diet.

We'll just say you're bulking!

 

[waterydave]

It takes more than 30 minutes of deadlifts a week.

True, but it will make you feel better and healthier.

And just maybe lead you to want to do a little something extra

baby steps brah

 

[mr2xxx]

How is this not "harshly critical"? It's telling people that they are doing it wrong.

Diff. people take it diff. ways. Personally I took it the same way CD did.

I interpreted it as, "I had all these issues and had three kids and still managed to get in good shape, what's your excuse for not making an effort to get in shape?" /shrug

 

[PhantomR]

Good for the mom. People dont realize how hard it is to 1) get a great fit body and 2) maintain it. Fuck the haters

Yes, and she should be rewarded for that.

But why the "What's YOUR excuse" mention? That's the part that I can understand is rubbing people the wrong way. She busted her ass and she's able to have a great body despite having kids. Awesome.

Celebrate that. Embrace that. But don't throw that in the face of people who weren't able to accomplish that. Why is that necessary? If she had not decided to add in that line in the end there would be NO controversy whatsoever here. Zero. Zilch.

 

[True Underdog]

I'm holding out for 'smoker-shaming' to become a thing.

Haven't you read a "get your second hand smoke away from me you second class citizen" thread?

 

[Zoe]

True, but it will make you feel better and healthier.

And just maybe lead you to want to do a little something extra

baby steps brah

I've been doing those baby steps for over a year, and it hasn't made me feel any better or healthier.

 

[Rayis]

Is not fat-shaming but I can see it being condescending

 

[KingGondo]

I interpreted it as, "I had all these issues and had three kids and still managed to get in good shape, what's your excuse for not making an effort to get in shape?" /shrug

That's a fair interpretation, I just didn't take it that way. (Also, it doesn't state what other "issues" she has, just that she has three healthy kids, super white teeth, and is in great shape.)

It just reminds me of when Gwyneth Paltrow gives lifestyle advice when she obviously has advantages far above most of the people she's addressing. Most people (understandably) find that incredibly annoying. I think it's the same dynamic at play here.

That, combined with the ridiculous nature of exercise culture in our country (trust me, I'm exposed to it all the time) and the narcissistic nature of Facebook really annoyed me.

This would be a valid point if aimed at twelve year olds, but the people complaining about this are adults. If you're an adult that can't handle harsh criticism, you have much bigger problems than just being a fatty mcfatass.

Just because you're an adult doesn't mean you can't have a fragile ego or low self-esteem, or be offended when you're really trying to get in shape/deal with weaknesses and somebody like the woman in the OP comes along and asks "what's YOUR excuse" for being, as you put it, a "fatty mcfatass."

I can understand why some people would be motivated by it, some would be inspired, and some would be offended. It depends on the perspective you're coming at it from, but to act like anyone who's offended by it is a lesser person is simple-minded.

 

[Hieberrr]

That's her after three kids? HNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

 

[MidgarBlowedUp]

Reminds me of Masako Mizutani and her skin care and Jung Da Yeon workout routine. Supposedly both of them are in their 40's.

Masako

Jung

I wish Jung Da Yeon would get her book translated to English

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

Why does everyone demand that everything is suitable to their sensibilities... and if its not they have the right to be overly offended about it? This is just one woman sharing a message. Why does everyone feel entitled to the idea that all things must be acceptable to them, or else they're going to be fucking dicks about it on the internet?

I dunno. But you're right that there are a lot of really hateful people in here talking some mad shit just because fat people exist.

 

[phazedplasma]

What's my excuse?I don't have a body that has a natural predisposition to being fit..

What does this even mean?


That fact that "Fat Shaming" is even a word sickens me.

 

[xbhaskarx]

The three year old's face is pretty much how I feel.

lol

 

[studyguy]

Reminds me of Masako Mizutani and her skin care and Jung Da Yeon workout routine. Supposedly both of them are in their 40's.

Masako

Jung

I wish Jung Da Yeon would get her book translated to English

Need that Asian Looks Last Till Menopause image, stat.

 

[Steve Youngblood]

What does this even mean?


That fact that "Fat Shaming" is even a word sickens me.

Well, it's two words first of all. And secondly, I don't know why it sickens you.

 

[Count Dookkake]

So what can we "shame" people for?

 

[TangoAlphaLima]

It just reminds me of when Gwyneth Paltrow gives lifestyle advice when she obviously has advantages far above most of the people she's addressing. Most people (understandably) find that incredibly annoying. I think it's the same dynamic at play here.

Yeah, Paltrow is the WORST. "Hey fellow mothers, here are some wonderful fashion tips, I love these Gucci boots I bought in Milan for $6,000..."

 

[RM8]

So what can we "shame" people for?

In reality, people get shamed for tons of stupid things. A thick skin is useful because of this.

 

[Vicetrailia]

So what can we "shame" people for?

Why do you want to? Honestly, people can get shamed for any and everything. Nothing is withheld.

 

[BocoDragon]

Traveling between Asia and America showed me an interesting contrast. First everyone was skinny, and then suddenly everyone was fat. Obviously genetics and the food on sale looms large in that difference... But it doesnt account for everything. There is also the element of fat acceptance and "loving yourself for who you are" in America, and an element of "no it's really not okay to be chubby" in Asia. I'm sure the latter causes psychological distress.... But at the same time? It works. It does motivate people to stay fit. It does improve the population's physical health. All the excuses for why "we can't" seem to diminish when the pressure is turned up.

Challenging one another to high standards of fitness is a dual edged sword... But I see now that it will break down excuses and encourage greater physical health. A good thing? I'm beginning to think it might be.

 

[cdyhybrid]

So what can we "shame" people for?

Being 49er fans.

 

[oneils]

I can see why they would be mad. Jealousy mixed with feelings of personal inadequacy is a hell of an emotional state.

Damn...you called it. Skulks off into corner.

You mean, I can't project my own feelings of inadequacy onto others? Well, that's no fun!

 

[TAJ]

So what can we "shame" people for?

Not putting your shopping cart in the corral when you're done with it.
But being down on stuffing your face with microwave burritos, sitting all day, then blaming your thyroid is fine.

 

[Count Dookkake]

Why do you want to? Honestly, people can get shamed for any and everything. Nothing is withheld.

I will shame you for not answering the question I asked.

 

[mr2xxx]

Just because you're an adult doesn't mean you can't have a fragile ego or low self-esteem, or be offended when you're really trying to get in shape/deal with weaknesses and somebody like the woman in the OP comes along and asks "what's YOUR excuse" for being, as you put it, a "fatty mcfatass."

I can understand why some people would be motivated by it, some would be inspired, and some would be offended. It depends on the perspective you're coming at it from, but to act like anyone who's offended by it is a lesser person is simple-minded.

This is a random internet image, if thats all it takes to make you insecure then you need to work on your coping skills. It's one thing if she someone was called out and public and she said this to you but when it comes to the internet then develop thicker skin. Generally every group you belong to gets made fun of in some way online, if you're able to laugh at them but not yourself you have an issue.

 

[-COOLIO-]

I read it as 'I did it, so can you' but with less words, and that's clearly the intent. No one is going to promote their business by attacking their potential customers.

Also my gawd, she is foine.

 

[shakin_haitian]

That's a fair interpretation, I just didn't take it that way. (Also, it doesn't state what other "issues" she has, just that she has three healthy kids, super white teeth, and is in great shape.)

It just reminds me of when Gwyneth Paltrow gives lifestyle advice when she obviously has advantages far above most of the people she's addressing. Most people (understandably) find that incredibly annoying. I think it's the same dynamic at play here.

That, combined with the ridiculous nature of exercise culture in our country (trust me, I'm exposed to it all the time) and the narcissistic nature of Facebook really annoyed me.


Just because you're an adult doesn't mean you can't have a fragile ego or low self-esteem, or be offended when you're really trying to get in shape/deal with weaknesses and somebody like the woman in the OP comes along and asks "what's YOUR excuse" for being, as you put it, a "fatty mcfatass."

I can understand why some people would be motivated by it, some would be inspired, and some would be offended. It depends on the perspective you're coming at it from, but to act like anyone who's offended by it is a lesser person is simple-minded.

It does mean that no one has to respect that person for failing as an adult.

 

[Baraka in the White House]

So what can we "shame" people for?

I am now officially uncertain of the sincerity of this question.

 

[Femmeworth]

So what can we "shame" people for?

Rather than asking that, question what use shaming serves.

 

[Lashley]

smokinnnnn

 

[Shambles]

So what can we "shame" people for?

Basically anyone who feels like it's someone else's responsibility to make them feel good about themselves. So much salt from her Facebook post.

 

[JohnDoe]

Rather than asking that, question what use shaming serves.

It's mostly for the satisfaction of the people doing it.

 

[pompidu]

sounds like overweight people acting jealous. love the pic, full on jimmie rustling.

 

[terrene]

So what can we "shame" people for?

Wanting to shame people.

 

[phazedplasma]

Traveling between Asia and America showed me an interesting contrast. First everyone was skinny, and then suddenly everyone was fat. Obviously genetics and the food on sale looms large in that difference... But it doesnt account for everything. There is also the element of fat acceptance and "loving yourself for who you are" in America, and an element of "no it's really not okay to be chubby" in Asia. I'm sure the latter causes psychological distress.... But at the same time? It works. It does motivate people to stay fit. It does improve the population's physical health. All the excuses for why "we can't" seem to diminish when the pressure is turned up.

Challenging one another to high standards of fitness is a dual edged sword... But I see now that it will break down excuses and encourage greater physical health. A good thing? I'm beginning to think it might be.

I think culturally people get called out ("shamed") a lot more outside of this country, not just in asia.

There are even cultures inside of this country (deaf culture) that are very blunt in the way they communicate. If they see you put on weight, they'll straight up sign to you "you got fat".

American culture is so politically correct, defensive and scared now. It's really sad.

The extreme availability of absolutely terrible food and piss poor nutritional education doesn't help at all either.

I guess we can thank food companies and the food lobby for that.

Yay capitalism!

 

[jamesinclair]

I want to see the husband

 

[charsace]

How is the photo in the OP controversial? I think it's adorable.

Also, she's only 32. If she works, out and is in to fitness, what do do people expect her to look like?

She has to work really hard and also watch what she eats. She's in fantastic shape for someone that has 3 kids. Most women don't recover after their first kid.

 

[Count Dookkake]

Rather than asking that, question what use shaming serves.

Would add you to the non-answer shame pile, but will grant exempt status for your contributions to Film GAF.

 

[Alligatorjandro]

So what can we "shame" people for?

furries, diaper wearers.

 

[Borgnine]

So what can we "shame" people for?

Any other addiction besides food.

 

[NinjaBoiX]

love the pic, full on jimmie rustling.

Amazing.