Hotline Miami has sold 130,000 copies, talks on Piracy and more
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McBradders
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I thought Trials Evo had done a million plus, no? And rather quickly, too... (servers were a fucking mess for days after release).
The hyperviolence that the game is made to deride is, no surprise, attractive to some gamers.
LQX
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Mark of the Ninja also costs more and has not seen any type of discount on XBLA.
Works for me too.
Until it crashes. game is buggy but awesome.
There is no excuse for piracy.
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I bought it on steam during these recent sales. I still need to play it.
WickedCobra03
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Unless you bought a securom game back in the day that wouldn't work with your DVD drive in the computer on release but a pirated version worked perfectly?
Anyway, I bought Hotline Miami, love it, but it is still buggy for me. When I try and quit the game normally though their menus, it just hangs, also, I have had a few lock ups. I enjoy this game, but for people saying, "so what, it had some bugs, they are fixed, so it's a non-issue". I want to give it my GotY, but in the state it was released in, and even being a bit buggy now, it is hard to fully recommend to anyone but a hardcore PC gamer who knows what to expect. Bugs and crashes definitely do affect a persons initial experience, and if that is tainted, there is never getting that first experience again to do over.
eot
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From what I've heard Steam often takes 40% and not the 30% people always toss around, but I can't confirm that. They probably sold at least two or three times as many copies during the sale as they had up until that point, so lets say the average price was (3*5 + 1*10) / 4 = 6.25$. That means they got 490k in revenue. Tax in Sweden is exceptionally high, so if they want to actually cash out the money from their company to their private accounts that's probably another 40% gone (or more) so we're down to 295k, or about 150k per person. Then you have development costs ontop of that (they licensed music for example).
They probably made a fair bit of money but in the end it's never as much as people assume.
I would have thought it'd have sold more than that. Especially since it was $5 both on Amazon and on Steam.
I'll buy it when they fix Windows 8 support. I heard it wasn't playable.
I played it in Windows 8 from start to finish without a single issue. No crashes, no glitches, nothing.
I've reached the point in life where I feel bad for buying games on sale (this from Steam, FTL from the website). I play these games and love them and then feel bad that the creators have ~$5 less of my money than if I got the game sooner.
It just blows my mind how people pirate anymore. I grew up buying crappy $69.99 SNES games with hard earned money. I understand that pirates don't have my perspective, I would just be a lot more frustrated than the HLM creators are.
It just blows my mind how people pirate anymore. I grew up buying crappy $69.99 SNES games with hard earned money. I understand that pirates don't have my perspective, I would just be a lot more frustrated than the HLM creators are.
I was basing on the fact of how steam sales help a lot.
Trail did over a million and a lot have done over 100k easily.
Xbla Games dont have an advantages of being advertised along huge retail AAA games unlike steam since 360 isnt a complete DD console neither Mark of the ninja has been on sale.
People seem to feel entitled, particularly with digital goods, to anything they feel they could and should realistically obtain. I've even seen it on this forum -- instead of just waiting for payday, or farming Keys in TF2 to save for something, someone will just openly ask/beg for it. I don't really get it and assume it's a generational thing.
Not too short imo. Its a $10 game how long should it be? It takes 2-3hours or more on the first play through and to me the game play makes it replayable. That seems great to me for a $10 game that most people probably bought for $5. The game is great bang for the buck in regards to entertainment. People spend more than that to sit down for 80 minutes to watch things like the recent Resident Evil and Silent Hill movies.
GalacticSushiman
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Make a sequel, longer and more varied, make it playable only connected to a server, and make it free to play, every month update your content with additional missions/modes created by the community, finally sell confort stuff (instant save option? Additional weapons? More armor? etc.) through micro transactions.
Profit.
Oh, and don't forget to do a bit of marketing prior to the game launch next time
Profit.
Oh, and don't forget to do a bit of marketing prior to the game launch next time
You make that sound like a bad thing.
Frankly I think the best part about the game (besides the soundtrack) is the speed. Once you figure out a level it's a lot of fun to blow through it as fast as possible with new weapons and tactics.
You post dribble like this all the time. If you disagree, then say why. I hope you're not this arrogant in real life.
I haven't played the game, but from what I've seen, any profit is a plus. Especially if it's as buggy as people say.
Messofanego
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I'm way into confrontational games, I think Spec Ops: The Line did it fantastically. I don't think that Hotline Miami did it as well because it just became a cool pastiche reminiscent of Tarantino instead of any kind of commentary on actual violence.
No offence meant to anyone who enjoyed the story.
snoopeasystreet
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To me, 130,000 sounds pretty decent for an Indie, pixel art drugged out murder game that hasn't been out been out that long and is broken on windows 8. It really is great though. Between the winter sale and if it makes it the humble bundle (which I bet it will), I'm sure this game will do really well financially.
theviolenthero
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FEZ did 100k in six weeks:
http://www.gamespot.com/news/fez-sales-hit-100000-6379497
Counterstrike GO,Tony Hawk,Trials Evolution,etc... all did big numbers.
What about fixing this game? I still can't complete a couple levels without skipping them in Windows 8.
I guess everyone needs to be instant millionaire nowadays. 130K in seven weeks is good for an initial effort, and it isn't like the game is going to stop selling anytime soon. In fact, it will probably be over 200K sold by the time the Steam winter is over.
I guess everyone needs to be instant millionaire nowadays. 130K in seven weeks is good for an initial effort, and it isn't like the game is going to stop selling anytime soon. In fact, it will probably be over 200K sold by the time the Steam winter is over.
You talk "value for money", i talk what i want in general.
I would've paid twice as much for twice the levels, point is: when i finished the game i was very thirsty for more, but i'm not saying the game it's not worth its price or it's a scam.
Also @ Marrec, the
real
I think it both makes fun of the (though effective) structure of games of having whatever excuse to let you bash in some virtual heads in (the phone calls all having things completely unrelated to violence) as well as some more mundane commentary on social hysteria, alienation and paranoia, related to violence (the main plot).
In this sense i think it was fairly elegant, up until the end with the real finale, that spells out too much and becomes expository.
What a bunch of crap. Yeah, I'm sure they'll rebuy his games they pirated once they have some extra funds because it's the "right thing to do."
If you can't afford a game, then why on earth does that entitle anyone to pirate it? "Oh man my bills are stacked sky high, I had to pirate your game, you understand man." No, how about playing one of the thousands of free games available and come back when you can actually pay a measly five dollars to support the developer who invested thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours for you to have a great time.
But hey, that's just me.
atomic moth
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And it was at 130,500 copies by the end of August. I was trying to compare Hotline to one-platform indies released this year and were highly regarded.
snoopeasystreet
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On my system(win 8 64 bit), if a certain number of windows break in a level, the game crashes. It makes from chapter 10 onward really difficult.
Testicular Sound Express
Member
Uh no. Just because a game doesn't have flashy HD graphics, doesn't mean a company doesn't have to pay developers, designers, and project managers....
Ken Masters
Banned
Piracy is a bitch
I really enjoyed the game so I am happy to hear that they are doing well. Not so happy to hear that they have been pirated to hell but it is expected.
I am in the group that actually never had any issues with the game crashing so I am also able to judge it only off the game itself.
I am in the group that actually never had any issues with the game crashing so I am also able to judge it only off the game itself.
fluffydelusions
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PC gaming is dying...no one buys PC games. That is all /s
Ken Masters
Banned
If they release a Mac version they will get my money
The market is much bigger now than it was before torrents. And why shouldn't someone be allowed to be mad that someone is acquiring their creations without paying a dime for it? If a person has a PC that is capable of playing the game why not pay for it?
michaelius
Banned
I wonder how many people crying that this is little money make more than 10k USD monthly here.
And sales are much better now too. How many budget games from unknown developers made a huge splash in the past? And I never said they shouldn't be mad, they should recognize that their game sold a lot, for what it is, and stop using piracy as an excuse for sales, like everyone else also does.