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House GOP may pass Senate's "skinny repeal" outright. CALL YOUR SENATORS.
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The House implemented Martial Law in the congressional Sense. It allows them to call a vote without any prior notice. AKA they can ram the senate bill through without committee etc
IT'S 8 FUCKING PAGES.
The GOP is a fucking joke. This shit wouldn't be acceptable in a college government class, but the highest legislators in the land think it's A-OK.
Lunch napkins are the new health care bill. What could possibly go wrong?!
Oh, okay, never heard that term used in that sense then.
RoyaleDuke
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That's because you missed the point of the book, and you also haven't read the other dystopian fiction novels that apply, Orwellian is often used to describe anything distinctly like 1984, books written after Orwells original, like Fahrenheit or even quite a few years before with Aldous Huxley's Brave New World. These three novels provide an overwhelmingly accurate picture of the current state of politics and society in ways that are both surface level and deeper.
Mass misinformation, information control, being watched and monitored 24/7, trusting nothing but the Party. Fahrenheit's institutional racism, Huxley's world of constant distraction and manipulation by large corporations and media and the rich elite.
We are dealing with these issues ever since the modern era started, technology only hastened the effect.
Places like 4chan had a huge effect on a large subset of people and pop culture much to my chagrin and disdain. They too, fall into their own little orwellian cult.
People keep bringing up dems but they have nothing to do with this and the gop can't force them to work on something they can't influence at all.
I wish people would stop that. Everything happening is purely gop bullshit... full stop.
They literally convened a press conference 5 hours ago for the sole purpose of declaring the bill a total disaster...and then voted Y on it. It is utter fucking madness.
nintendoman58
Member
Oh, don't get me wrong. I know about those parts of the book.
I was just pointing out that unlike in the book, where the Party comes off as threatening and menacing, the guys in reality just come off as confused, crazy old lunatics that are so desperate to make bad choices.
SomewhatGroovy
Banned
So is this a game to see who eats the blame for failing to get a replacement or are they rushing this because somehow they can still work on tax reform?
Yeah, it's beyond silly to be honest. It doesn't even make sense lol. They won't revisit healthcare after this passes, they're moving on to tax reform.
So now its like 40 mil?
Wish we could find out how much it would cost the economy too.
Fuckers only care about money.
Tezzeractor
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Thank you. Shared with friends.
Its 8 pages and 2.5 pages of it is just planned parenthood alone
Next year alone, 15 million loose health insurance, and premiums go up 20%. It's far quicker than any other bills they've recommended. It's why the senate doesn't want this to pass the house (lol). Republicans will be fucked come 2018 if this is what passes.
This is on top of the 25-30 million projected to be uninsured, right?
CBO working overtime, and yet most people will be asleep by the time this gets ready to vote, assuming it's not on Fri morning.
Sweet Jesus
Edit: Just saw this hit CNN. 43 million?! GOOOOOD DAMMMN
maabus1999
Member
So CBO says this would save 280 Billion by eliminating the mandates. That is more than I thought it would provide and does counter the tax revenue decrease. So this has a possibility of needing only 50.
I'm guessing they already had an idea of what the bill would be and had the calculations all ready to go.
They probably have a formula where they can plug in different aspects and flavors of repeal the Senate keeps threatening.
Presumably republicans are just slightly changing things, so it's probably as simple adjusting a few numbers or removing them.
Its always only needed 50. That is the whole point of the Skinny Repeal. They already announced Pence will be arriving in awhile to be there to cast the 51st vote if needed.
It was always going to meet the budgetary requirements because of cuts to medicaid. It's the other stuff like the Planned Parenthood shit that is going to get in the bills way, if anything.
DangerMouse
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I mean really. I can't picture a scenario where the gop would force a party to vote on something they're vehemently against on top of not needing a single vote from them. Bringing dems into this is purely a but dems statement... no matter how you word it.
Wasn't the big thing about defunding Planned Parenthood in relation to that?
darthsontin
Member
Apparently they broadened it to more abortion providers so it passes muster now.
maabus1999
Member
That is not correct due to the Byrd Rule and how the CBO influences that part of the rule. Some of the provisions like the waivers could also be against the Byrd rule.
There are no cuts to medicaid in this bill.
DragoonKain
Neighbours from Hell
Trying to sneak this healthcare bill through at midnight is like when you were a kid and you asked your mom if you could go to a friend's house and she's like yeah sure, and when you are halfway out the door you were like "oh, btw that friend is a girl's house and her parents aren't home... bye!" and shut the door.
This whole thing from start to finish is just another embarrassment for our nation.
This whole thing from start to finish is just another embarrassment for our nation.
AngmarsKing701
Member
I wrote to my two hapless GOP Senators who are fucking awful human beings. It was as easy as this.
#VoteNo on #SkinnyRepeal.
Because frankly there isn't time to write the dingbats a letter. I only get form responses in return that tell me they HAD TO DO IT because Obama.
#VoteNo on #SkinnyRepeal.
Because frankly there isn't time to write the dingbats a letter. I only get form responses in return that tell me they HAD TO DO IT because Obama.
Alright, figures
Medicare and Medicaid were passed before the New Deal coalition disintegrated.
Well, this is just fucked up if true.
https://twitter.com/Atul_Gawande/status/890755040104919040
Terrible for public health: If I'm correct, Section II also eliminates the ACA's public health funding, cutting $1B of @CDC's $7B budget.
https://twitter.com/Atul_Gawande/status/890755040104919040
Terrible for public health: If I'm correct, Section II also eliminates the ACA's public health funding, cutting $1B of @CDC's $7B budget.
And it's a very good time to remind people what disintegrated that coalition. (Civil rights!)
As people are forced out of the exchanges, they'll be forced out of the medicaid expansion, therefore medicaid will save money. That (as far as I know) is how the bill is going to reduce the deficit, thus meeting budgetary requirements.
It's beyond belief. We've yet to hear a single panel of industry experts on ANY of the plans, have seen no public hearings, and best if all wasted all of our time pouring through plans that were tossed in favor of whatever it is they are going to jam through tonight.
Evening Musuko
Black Korea
More than the population of a lot of countries.
Countries like Canada as a random example.
Inyourprime
Member
Blood is fucking boiling with this smug son of a bitch from Wyoming speaking on the floor now.
Will make sure EVERYONE I know remembers this shit for YEARS to come. You gon get yours, Republicans.
Will make sure EVERYONE I know remembers this shit for YEARS to come. You gon get yours, Republicans.
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