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House GOP may pass Senate's "skinny repeal" outright. CALL YOUR SENATORS.
- Thread starter Jordan117
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No it's not. Too many idiots in the country with a propaganda network in Fox News and talk radio fueling their idiocy.
No bill so far has gotten more than a 20% approval rating, and that includes Republicans, too. Conservative media hasn't been able to sell it so far, and they won't this either. People are stupid, but when people are directly affected by something, they can be surprisingly a lot smarter than you expect.
It's happening right now.
Obviously the in industry would have to adjust in some way, those kinds of increases are untenable.
NullPointer
Member
No questions and no parliamentary inquiries, as neither has brought Sen. Enzi (R, Wyoming) "satisfaction".Dude is up there killing 30 minutes so that nobody on the floor can discuss the bill.
BoboBrazil
Member
Ummmmmmmmmmm
I'm pretty sure 2006 and 2008 happened
That's great, but my point is it wasn't the death of the party like what was said above.
No, they don't. Trump scraped in by the skin of his teeth.They only need idiots in a few small states that went Trump.
but when people are directly affected by something, they can be surprisingly a lot smarter than you expect.
If they were intelligent they would have mobilised against it already, instead of waiting to get fucked over.
I mean it'll have to pass the house is well, and the senate republicans seem confident it won't because they don't actually want the BILL THEY ARE VOTING ON TO PASS
But if it does pass both houses we make sure they own up to this dumpster fire of bill they passed
That was a lie based on what people thought the bill was. It's designed to pass the House.
Aaronrules380
Member
I'm watching CNN on tv not the live stream so we might be seeing different thingsDude is up there killing 30 minutes so that nobody on the floor can discuss the bill.
TheSchwab_7
Member
Thank you
Take it to court? That doesn't make sense. If it passes it is the law, you can't take the law to court.
Sure you can. Different provisions of the ACA went to the SCOTUS. Twice in fact. There are already plans by different legal firms to take any Republican bill that passes to the supreme court, count on it.
I mean it'll have to pass the house is well, and the senate republicans seem confident it won't because they don't actually want the BILL THEY ARE VOTING ON TO PASS
But if it does pass both houses we make sure they own up to this dumpster fire of bill they passed
The Senate wants the bill to go to Committee so they can add their Medicaid cuts etc. missing in the senate bill. The problem for some senators is they are "afraid" the house is just going to call a vote immediately after to pass it as is
Obviously the in industry would have to adjust in some way, those kinds of increases are untenable.
I mean yeah the markets would melt down.
Sure you can. Different provisions of the ACA went to the SCOTUS. Twice in fact. There are already plans by different legal firms to take any Republican bill that passes to the supreme court, count on it.
It's only changing the law of ACA that has been confirmed constitutional.
John Rabbit
Banned
No bill so far has gotten more than a 20% approval rating, and that includes Republicans, too. Conservative media hasn't been able to sell it so far, and they won't this either. People are stupid, but when people are directly affected by something, they can be surprisingly a lot smarter than you expect.
A survey taken in Phoenix yesterday gave a 6% approval rating to how the GOP has handled this.
6%.
A survey taken in Phoenix yesterday gave a 6% approval rating to how the GOP has handled this.
6%.
Wouldn't a large city already be fairly blue?
If they were intelligent they would have mobilised against it already, instead of waiting to get fucked over.
What does that even mean? One of the reasons the bill has had such a hard road is the opposition from both sides. Some of you guys are just too quick to hot takes.
Autodidact
Banned
Wouldn't a large city already be fairly blue?
Yes, though we should note that Phoenix is less blue than other large cities.
John Rabbit
Banned
Wouldn't a large city already be fairly blue?
Sure but Phoenix isn't that liberal.
Aaronrules380
Member
6% is low for literally any area in the country. Even the bluest cities in the country aren't nearly that democraticWouldn't a large city already be fairly blue?
Not entirely. The ACA had a key provision of medicaid expansion to all states cut by the SCOTUS. Besides, it could've been thrown out, as laws have been in the past. There are for sure portions of this bill that will be taken to court and have to pass constitutional muster.It's only changing the law of ACA that has been confirmed constitutional.
It's only changing the law of ACA that has been confirmed constitutional.
It can still be taken to court. Any altering of any law can, technically.
What does that even mean? One of the reasons the bill has had such a hard road is the opposition from both sides. Some of you guys are just too quick to hot takes.
I mean, yeah it has had opposition from both sides. But those people will say, "yeah, the bill it's no good for me, but I'll still vote for X".
Given that passivity, the GOP only had to listen to the crazies.
Crash55118
Member
It would collapse the industry.
That can't happen.
Yeah, almost like it is a terrible plan...
Halting medicaid expansion in a number of states has already led to that exact thing happening with HMOs leaving the exchange market and pushing up costs - it is literally already happening.
I mean yeah the markets would melt down.
It's only changing the law of ACA that has been confirmed constitutional.
Big insurance companies with group plans will be ok, but the little ones will disappear immediately.
John Rabbit
Banned
This "Senator" from Wyoming is an absolute disgrace of a human being.
"I advocate maintaining continuous coverage," says man who receives top-tier healthcare absolutely free.
"I advocate maintaining continuous coverage," says man who receives top-tier healthcare absolutely free.
Lord of Castamere
Member
fuckers rambling, get him of the stage.
Wouldn't a large city already be fairly blue?
It's Phoenix.
I mean, yeah it has had opposition from both sides. But those people will say, "yeah, the bill it's no good for me, but I'll still vote for X".
Given that passivity, the GOP only had to listen to the crazies.
What point does bringing up die hards make?
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
I guess I better schedule a doctor's appointment...
Get some blood work done.
fuck
Get some blood work done.
fuck
John Rabbit
Banned
This is really going to trash the individual insurance markets.
All markets. Employer-based plans aren't shielded from this.
This is really going to trash the individual insurance markets.
That market will no longer exist, nobody will be able to afford it.
Lord of Castamere
Member
I guess I better schedule a doctor's appointment...
Get some blood work done.
fuck
Same. My Medicaid is good for a year or so, need to get all I can before it drops. /:
John Rabbit
Banned
Fuck this old piece of shit and the crappy ass state he yields from.
Is this what McCain meant by a bipartisan "return to order"?
I really wish everyone in Wyoming was watching this right now
Wyoming went overwhelmingly to Trump. They don't give a shit.
What point does bringing up die hards make?
This was the point about people suddenly being intelligent after they've been fucked over.
My point was that if they were really intelligent, they wouldn't actually have let it come to that point. All this pertaining to those that care, obviously those diehards don't, and they made themselves heard.
All markets. Employer-based plans aren't shielded from this.
Right, that's the thing...
Literally no one wins. Why, oh fucking why, would you vote for this shit bill?
Fuck these corrupt, out of touch motherfuckers. THEY DO NOT REPRESENT US.
They don't even represent the stupid fucking idiots who support Trump, but those same stupid fucking idiots would never know that because they're too busy being fed bullshit by Fox to ever bother learning about...anything.
Go to hell, GOP.
They don't even represent the stupid fucking idiots who support Trump, but those same stupid fucking idiots would never know that because they're too busy being fed bullshit by Fox to ever bother learning about...anything.
Go to hell, GOP.
I mean, yeah it has had opposition from both sides. But those people will say, "yeah, the bill it's no good for me, but I'll still vote for X".
Given that passivity, the GOP only had to listen to the crazies.
This logic makes no sense, because if this is how they felt they would have just passed the ACHA outright and said, fuck it.
Is this what McCain meant by a bipartisan "return to order"?
yup
hold on to your butts
Aaronrules380
Member
Because Trump really wants a winRight, that's the thing...
Literally no one wins. Why, oh fucking why, would you vote for this shit bill?
This is really going to trash the individual insurance markets.
It's going to make them non existent
Shake Appeal
Member
"This is the legacy of Obamacare."No amount of propaganda can get over 20% increases in premiums every year
Done.
Fancyarcher
Member
I really wish everyone in Wyoming was watching this right now
They probably don't care what he's saying. They're drinking the GOP kool-aide, anyway.
"This is the legacy of Obamacare."
Done.
Polling heavily suggests that will not work. If this becomes law as it stands the Republicans are going to get killed in 2018.