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How do you feel about Sony's proposed E3 presentation style?

I think this E3 is going to be really big for a variety of reasons. Nintendo are winning back third party support so I can see them having a lot to talk about as Switch continues to build momentum. Microsoft have announced a 2 hour long conference so they must really be throwing the gauntlet down, as I guess it is somewhat make or break for them at the moment. A poor E3 showing can probably ensure they're relegated to a far third place this generation, whilst an epic show could inject a lot of well needed hype to a system that isn't faring quite as well as it's competition.

All that aside, I want to focus on Sony because they've been quite transparent about their plans for E3 and I don't know how I feel about it. On the one hand, I recognise they can't maintain dropping atom bombs each year like they did for 2015 and 2016. Their 2017 show was very lacklustre in my opinion, but never-the-less, they've got a lot going on to be excited about.

On the flip side of the coin, I don't know how I feel about the deep dive stuff. Especially if it turns out that some of the content is further away than we'd hoped. Days Gone is now a 2019 title and they've shown so much with their media blow out that they've actually put me off this game, whereas the original trailers had completely sold me on it. So why they're showing so much seems somewhat of a mystery to me. Death Stranding I think is a game we all have tonnes of questions about, so it would be nice to see how they flesh that out and what the game actually is, so far it's been very conceptual and not as much instructional as to what it is. Ghost of Tsushima could be a 2020 title for all we know. It is very unlikely to be 2020 but the trailer for the game shown originally didn't really blow me away. I was playing Ni Oh at the time and really liked the concept of it, but I don't really know enough about it to really hype for it, so that would be the most beneficial I believe. The Last of Us II will be an interesting showing as I'm not sure what direction ND are planning for this game. And then there is Spooderman. (Intentionally misspelt.) We know a good deal about this title and I don't think it needs a deep dive so much as an update.

Which kind of makes me wonder, what else are we going to see from Sony? I feel like they're trying to really push their first party stuff like God of War and Horizon in the hopes of really boosting those sales. Which is obviously good business for Sony. At the same time, are we going to be too light on the variety of content on show?

I mean I want to see MediEvil, that's something very briefly talked about where news was promised but has failed to materialise. There is still a lot in development that they can announce and talk about that is relevant for PlayStation 4 as Kodera clearly stated the next iteration of PlayStation is going to be too far away. But would it be wise to say, pour 20 minutes into each title and just have 20 minutes left over for a few other announcements that will feel less important? Would you be pretty burned out from the deep dives to really care about anything else they have to say? Or would you hope they play Microsoft and dedicate an hour to the discussed titles and then use an hour on other business?

I really don't know how I feel about this, but we're only two weeks away now so not long to find out. What are your thoughts on Sony's proposed E3 conference?
 
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Toe-Knee

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I can't wait until spiderman is out so I don't have to hear about it again.

I quite like the format as I feel they usually don't go into enough detail at conferences but I'm not really interested in seeing more of the games they're showing as Ive seen enough of TLOU and tsushima and have no interest in the other two.

In the future I can see this format working extremely well for me if I'm more interested in the games being shown.

I hope there's a good chunk of VR stuff either in the main show or or pre show.

Doubt I'll actually watch the show this year. Just get the highlights bar the big 4 games they're showing.
 
Well 2017 wasn't very impressive so hopefully they can have a better show this year. I don't expect a 2015 show since the PS4 is in the final stretches before the PS5 but when you show games so early it's bound to catch up with you. That's why 2017 aside from Ghost wasn't very exciting. Sure it's nice to see how these games are coming along but I like being surprised with new announcements. It will be interesting to see how serious they are with VR going forward.
 

Petrae

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I’d certainly like to see less time-wasting and more game content. Make your announcements, show your trailers, and go home. None of this fake cheering crowd, bombastic/pointless live music, chatty suits not wearing suits because they’re trying to be hip nonsense.

These events can be cleanly edited and last 30-45 minutes... MAYBE an hour if longer sequences of gameplay are shown for higher-profile games.

I’d love to see Sony change it up and go with a less-is-more strategy. Nintendo has generally done well with its pre-recorded approach, letting the games speak for themselves from the show floor.
 

nowhat

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Ghost of Tsushima could be a 2020 title for all we know.
It's possible, sure, but I think 2019 or late 2018 even is more likely. Sucker Punch has basically maintained radio silence since First Light (before the reveal) so I'm guessing they've been working at it for quite some time now.
 

Dunki

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Well 2017 wasn't very impressive so hopefully they can have a better show this year. I don't expect a 2015 show since the PS4 is in the final stretches before the PS5 but when you show games so early it's bound to catch up with you. That's why 2017 aside from Ghost wasn't very exciting. Sure it's nice to see how these games are coming along but I like being surprised with new announcements. It will be interesting to see how serious they are with VR going forward.
It was not that impressive because they had not such huge bombs like 2015 and 2016. 2018 however looks already different. Everone wants Last of use 2 and Death Stranding gameplay. I am hyped for Ghost of Tsushima and I can not wait for the stuff we do not know yet.

The pacing in Sony conferences the last 3 years was excelllent. I love how they now do it and hope they will keep doing it.
 
What are your thoughts on Sony's proposed E3 conference?

In terms of style and mainstream appeal in my opinion the Sony E3 2016 conference is still the crown achievement that everybody else has to be compared to. This was the first gaming related presentation that you could watch with your mother and not be ashamed of your hobby. I wish Sony would continue on this path but they let me down in 2017.

Content-wise - additionally to the titles you mentioned - I am pretty sure we could get a new clip from Death Stranding, but that game might not come out before 2019. I am also pretty sure Activision will bring some Black Ops IV material and an exclusive DLC deal. Other than that I am not sure. CD Project could show Cyberpunk but they usually go with Microsoft. Horizon Second Dawn is too far away. Star Wars wise I am also not certain. That will happen at EA's conference but to nurture their relationship with Sony they will probably get a clip too. Playstation VR is another wild card. They have to prove support for the platform (otherwise every headline after E3 will say that VR is dead), Oculus is coming with a second gen headset (no cables supposedly). This might generate pressure on Sony. Still I think that Sony will let the topic die (not the idea though) since the default PS4 is simply to weak for VR. They could ressurect the tech with the PS5 that might have cable-free VR in mind from the beginning.

Other than that Sony could always surprise with the revivial of an old brand. MDK comes to mind.
 
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geordiemp

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Nintendo are winning back third party support so I can see them having a lot to talk about as Switch continues to build momentum. ?

Sure they got Skyrim and er.....what you talking about here ? Sony 3rd party support is not threatened by Nintendo, what you smokin ?

I loved the orchestra and show last time, so just more of the same. I am sure they are not too worried as lots to show.
 

Toe-Knee

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Sure they got Skyrim and er.....what you talking about here ? Sony 3rd party support is not threatened by Nintendo, what you smokin ?

I loved the orchestra and show last time, so just more of the same. I am sure they are not too worried as lots to show.


Doom, wolfenstein 2. SMT, Re7

Can't think of much else. Oh that ubisoft mario/rabbids crossover
 

Ar¢tos

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The live orchestra last year was cool (or was it 2 years ago?)
Now they need to start a conference with something like Cirque du Soleil, fire spitting and the presenter inside a motorcycle death globe. Even if the games they show suck, at least there is something interesting to see.
 
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As long as they aren't showing games about 200 years early as they did with 2015 (which is not one of their best imo) then it will be a success.

Last of Us 2 gameplay will be a big deal. But also Death Stranding gameplay is gonna be a must. If they show anymore CGI trailers of that game I'm just gonna assume there is no hope and they are banking more on the hype of kojima, as I am not a fan of how they were showing CGI trailers

I want to see 2018 and 2019 trailer, with at max 2 CGI trailers of games 2020+
 
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Bungie

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Sony has a habit of showing the same games, I remember seeing No Mans Sky at multiple E3s but I could say that about a lot of games at the conferences. Going to most likely see more FF7 & KH3 again but overall I'm going in clueless. Really don't want to see both Destiny & CoD.
 
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Jeff D

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can't imagine it will be as lacklustre as last year, but I'm ok with whatever they do as it's not a show I see live because of the time. so I'll be able to skip past anything I'm not into, but for sure... I'm excited about Spiderman.
 

WaterAstro

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They've exhausted their first party, pretty much. We know what everyone is making. Santa Monica will continue with God of War, Guerilla will continue with Horizon, Naughty Dog is busy with TLOU 2, Sucker Punch is making Ghost of Tsushima, etc. etc. They're going to have to rely on third party for big reveals. Sony has also exhausted anything that can be a megaton with what they did at 2015 and 2016. I can't see anything that can be amazing unless it's Half-Life 3.

Though I say that, their press conference announcement could be a bait. They've done clever baiting before with the PSX Crash tease and the PSX stupid FF7 PC version bait. It really set us up for surprise.
Sony has a habit of showing the same games, I remember seeing No Mans Sky at multiple E3s but I could say that about a lot of games at the conferences. Going to most likely see more FF7 & KH3 again but overall I'm going in clueless. Really don't want to see both Destiny & CoD.
They only showed No Man's Sky at two E3s.
 
I'm not interested about games.

For me they fucked so big by fragmenting the playstation line into Slim and Pro, and the Pro not having Ultra B-Reader and not integrating the PSVR breakout components, but maybe far most importantly since Microsoft has been doing a way better job, no backward compatibility and backlog refreshing as is now clearly the important platform incentive Steam, Uplay, Origin, Microsoft, Blizzard and probably eventually Nintendo (although them being so degenerately greedy it's not a given) are going after for the future.

I have an OG PS4 and no reason to upgrade, I don't want a bulkier PS4 Pro with a lesser design that doesn't bring anything but a bit teraflops more...I don't want a bulky additional break-out box and cable mess for the PSVR (which I wouldn't use since I have a Gear and Oculus at home and many more at office), however I would have wanted a single better PS4 not just in performance terms, but as a functional (still no bluetooth audio even though Sony invented LDAC? and that terrible network card...), media, virtual and playstation device...
 
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bitbydeath

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I got a Chromecast the other day and it seems good but I'm an Alexa house, might make sense to switch to afirestick

I have a first gen chromecast and a new Firestick. Firestick is much better in comparison but newer chromecasts could be far improved. I always had a lot of lag streaming on the chromecast.
 

Fbh

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I'll definitely be disappointed if they really have no first part announcements. I'm looking forward to seeing more of all of their big games (except Spiderman) but a big part of what makes E3 exciting is the announcements and it would suck if those are limited to multiplatform titles.

Specially after having no real PSX conference and everyone telling me it's "because they are saving the big stuff for E3"
 

bitbydeath

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Specially after having no real PSX conference and everyone telling me it's "because they are saving the big stuff for E3"

That doesn’t explain last years E3.
They’re not releasing early trailers of new titles because devs are working on PS5. (Guerrilla, Japan and probably London).
 

Fbh

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That doesn’t explain last years E3.
They’re not releasing early trailers of new titles because devs are working on PS5. (Guerrilla, Japan and probably London).

Well yeah, if they really show nothing new then I wouldn't know how to interpret it other than it being an implied confirmation that Ps5 is coming in late 2019, early 2020.
 
If you're not interested about games, why are you buying a gaming console?

I should've been more precise: I'm not interested about game for this E3.

I know of the few but major PS4 games coming, and while that's good (not amazing), I'm only interested with Sony fixing their platform scheme since Slim/Pro.
 
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