How do you feel about the success of the Nintendo Switch 2 Launch?

How do you feel about the success of the Nintendo Switch 2 Launch?

  • Its deserved, the console, price and lineup are very appealing

    Votes: 119 34.2%

  • Its deserved, based on Nintendo Switch 1 good will alone - not fully convinced but I trust Nintendo

    Votes: 100 28.7%

  • It was a bit undeserved

    Votes: 57 16.4%

  • I don't understand why anyone would want one at this point in time

    Votes: 64 18.4%

  • I don't understand why anyone would want one at all, I don't see a future for it

    Votes: 8 2.3%
  • Total voters
    348
I mean, whether you want a Switch 2 or you don't, do the numbers matter? You buy it if you want one, you don't if you don't.

You could have 10 million people going out one day and buying and eating a piece of shit - it wouldn't make me feel I'm missing out on anything if I chose not to join them.
 
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Topher said:
That's the official line, yes. I think a degree of transparency and allowing independent evaluation for a console is important prior to launch. Whatever the reason, they skipped it. If I'm going to say how I "feel" about the launch then that's a part of it.
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Which is fair. I just don't think we can say "launch reviews have been mostly positive from what I've seen so Nintendo's paranoia was unwarranted." if we don't know what that day 1 patch did".
 
Woopah said:
Which is fair. I just don't think we can say "launch reviews have been mostly positive from what I've seen so Nintendo's paranoia was unwarranted." if we don't know what that day 1 patch did".
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True. That's an assumption on my part
 
Nintendo didn't have to give it to reviewers early. IT's not exactly an unknown quantity. They had MKW. They had the NIntendo app. They had Directs. They have the internets. And there was always going to be good demand for launch and tight supply. Why go thru intermediaries?

Let the system and the people speak first.

Reviewers are generally terrible nowadays anyway.
 
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What the fuck is this? They sold a bit more than 2% what they sold of Switch 1. This tells us absolutely nothing other than that Nintendo has millions of fans.

Ask this again each year when there is actual data. And yes I bought one and blew about 700 so far and am slightly annoyed by that.
 
tr1p1ex said:
Nintendo didn't have to give it to reviewers early. IT's not exactly an unknown quantity. They had MKW. They had the NIntendo app. They had Directs. They have the internets. And there was always going to be good demand for launch and tight supply. Why go thru intermediaries?

Let the system and the people speak first.

Reviewers are generally terrible nowadays anyway.
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Did not "have" to, no. But it would have been good for people to know what level of performance they are getting from what is mostly upgraded hardware. That's a common expectation for new hardware being released whether it is consoles, GPUs, CPUs, anything of that nature.
 
Fantastic hardware. Fine enough price. Bad launch catalog. Abysmal new policies and practices. Overall: bit undeserved. Compared with other Nintendo consoles this must be among the most deserving one up there with the SNES, tho.
 
First, it was always going to sell out. That is not an issue. The success of the Switch 1, ps5, and other recent releases showed you that. FOMO is a real thing, especially now with the price of consoles increasing as time goes on, instead of dropping.

I got one. So, it does remind me of Wii U launch. But it isn't because of hardware, it is the software launch lineup. I wish it had a few more big titles for first or third party.

The launch window is missing something. I can't figure out what it is, but it feels like it is missing something. I just can't put my finger on it.

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Would the launch feel different if it was something like:

Launch: MK: World, BoTW, and say Mario Golf Deluxe with online tournaments? (Another game with online play, highly replayable).
Yakuza, SF6, CyberPunk, Civ, Sonic

July: DK, Mario Party
FFVIIR

August: Kirby, Drag x Drive

Maybe: Elden Ring, Madden, WWE 2k,

September: Metroid, ToTK, NBA 2k, and EA FC?


Maybe something like this would make it feel more robust? Not sure.
Should BoTW and ToTK been separated by a few months, and had something else substituted instead?

Edit: Having BoTW, and ToTK separated to provide more variety. This would have been better, imo.
 
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I'm a video gamer and I'm happy when a new Nintendo video games machine sells well

It's good for the gaming industry when Nintendo does well

I like my Switch 2 and I'm personally looking forward to the new DK game
 
Feeling absolutely vindicated. Sticker shock wasn't a shock after all, because everyday people realize inflation is a thing and just budget accordingly instead of impotently calling for boycotts in screeds posted online.

There seemed to be a feeling in the air pre-release that people wanted it to fail, as if its success was going to set some sort of deadly precedent that'll destroy the entire industry. It's all nonsense. Game prices have been rising incrementally anyway and the hardware itself is relatively okay value compared to similar portable hardware like the Deck. Nothing is standing out as Nintendo being some trailblazer for fucking people in the ass - more like they're just reacting to the market wheels which have already been set in motion.

The outrage about game key cards was similar, in that people think its going to kill physical gaming, failing to acknowledge that a) physical is already on life support, like that orangutan with the oxygen tank picture, and b) it's expensive as fuck on Switch already due to the carts and is only going to get more expensive for publishers as game sizes increase. If Nintendo didn't decree that physical was dead themselves, there would be enough publishers running for the exits to make that happen anyway.
 
Topher said:
Did not "have" to, no. But it would have been good for people to know what level of performance they are getting from what is mostly upgraded hardware. That's a common expectation for new hardware being released whether it is consoles, GPUs, CPUs, anything of that nature.
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Nah. Nvidia talked about the silicon beforehand. And anyone overly concerned wouldn't buy. Still more than enough demand and a tight supply.

PLus all the stores have return policies. I can walk in today and return my Switch. IT's pretty risk free.

If you bought a physical game...you can ebay it.

Or I actually bought the PS5 at launch and played it for 5 days and then sold it locally. And made a few bucks on top of it but even if I lost $50 or whatever that's what I was willing to lose to see if I would like it.
 
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I will wait for its emulation to appear on a 2nd gen Steam Deck.

Playing games from 2 gens ago and paying full price for them isn't my thing and Nintendo puts out probably 5 games themselves tops every gen that are worth playing.

The launch really doesn't predict its success, Most consoles sell like hotcakes when they first come out. I think it will be successful but I don't think it will be as successful as Switch 1. Switch 1 was pretty revolutionary for what it was at the time. This one not so much and I think many will just play their old Switch or the novelty has worn off. It's virtually the same exact thing but instead of playing 360/PS3 era games, now it can play PS4 and XBone games. 😂
 
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tr1p1ex said:
Nah. Nvidia talked about the silicon beforehand. And anyone overly concerned wouldn't buy. Still more than enough demand and a tight supply.

PLus all the stores have return policies. I can walk in today and return my Switch.
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We disagree then. I think product reviews are still important.
 
I'm not surprised by the success based on the number of OG Switch users likely wanting to upgrade, along with the cool looking MK:W.

I wasn't hyped enough to pre-order the Switch 2, since I hadn't used my OG Switch for a year or so. But I guess I could pick one up in a year or two, when more 1st-party games are released. 3rd-party games are of no interest to me because I'm satisfied with my PS5 Pro/Portal combo.

It'll be interesting to see how it continues to sell. I guess that depends on how many units Nintendo can supply.
 
Topher said:
There is nothing wrong with people wanting to make informed purchases my man.
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Nothing more informed than using the system yourself risk-free.

Also was plenty of information out on the system beforehand. Including Jensen talking about the silicon.

Let me know the reviews add above and beyond that. I'd be curious. I'm sure I'll be glancing at a few myself.
 
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Not for me as the games are far too expensive (fuck variable pricing), but I'm happy it appears to be doing well out the gate.
 
tr1p1ex said:
Including Jensen talking about the silicon.
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Topher said:
Nah....that was just a joke gif responding to the Jensen reference. There is nothing to tap out to. We just disagree. All good.
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Don't worry. I'll take the submission. WE all know product reviews mean little these days. Especially for a product like the Nintendo Switch.
 
The things I really would like to know no one knows. Not even Nintendo.

Like what games are coming out the next 5 years. And are they going to be any good?

Or is the hardware going to be reliable? When is the revision coming and what does it include?
 
reinking said:
The poll questions did not match what I expected. I will just say that I am glad Nintendo had a great launch and I hope it is a lesson for others to launch with inventory. As for the system itself? I think it is great for those that want it but I am holding off for now. I think it stacks up well against the Switch, and I still do not understand why it has to be compared to older consoles, but that is what we do around here.
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Nintendo can get away with inventory because they sell hardware at a profit. If Sony or MS did this with PS5/XSX they would be very much in the red especially with the chip shortages during covid.
 
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Three said:
Nintendo can get away with inventory because they sell hardware at a profit. If Sony or MS did this with PS5/XSX they would be very much in the red especially with the chip shortages during covid.
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The way things are headed, I expect Sony and Microsoft to start selling hardware at a profit.
 
tr1p1ex said:
I accept your submission and sorry for offending you. I realize you find it impossible to not equate MKW's graphics with a kid's game. And that is the only thing that determines whether or not it's a kid's game to you. The superb level of polish mean nothing. The lack of bullshit and time wasting means nothing. The world class animation means nothing. The world class controls mean nothing. The pick up and play don't need a 2nd career means nothing. The competitive fun of vs matches mean nothing. And so forth and so on.

Good luck in your next match.

PS. Don't forget to tell your kid those 4 games are fine kid games. And when he's ready to come to a real game that the working man can appreciate he's welcome anytime.
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See what I'm talking about? Unhinged manchild
 
Pop said:
Alright bots are voting. Aint no one believes the lineup is appealing

Im disgusted
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Mario Kart on Switch sold 68 mil copies. That alone makes this an extremely apple song launch to the mainstream and the way they blasted pasted previous records tells us that Mario Kart was enough to make the launch lineup appealing.
 
Pop said:
Alright bots are voting. Aint no one believes the lineup is appealing

Im disgusted
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Mario Kart World, Fast Fusion, Split Fiction, Cyberpunk 2077, Kunitsu-gami, etc are great games.

"But you could play them elsewhere" doesn't matter, millions of people don't have a PS5 or Xbox Series and millions more prefer portability to graphics.
 
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Vaquilla said:
Mario Kart World, Fast Fusion, Split Fiction, Cyberpunk 2077, Kunitsu-gami, etc are great games.

"But you could play them elsewhere" doesn't matter, millions of people don't have a PS5 or Xbox Series and millions more prefer portability to graphics.
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Hey you said it not me

So one Nintnedo exclusive for a new console launch
 
Pop said:
Hey you said it not me

So one Nintnedo exclusive for a new console launch
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Games don't need to be made by Nintendo to be great; Cyberpunk, Fast Fusion, Split Fiction et all are great too, so the system has no shortage of great games.

It's just good sense to space out your first party releases instead of just dumping them all at once; the next 7 months are packed with the likes of Donkey Kong Bananza, Metroid Prime 4, Kirby Air Riders, Pokémon Legends Z-A, Hyrule Warriors Age of Imprisonment, that's roughly one new first party game per month, excellent output.
 
I think the bundle with Mario Kart was well worth it. This has to be the most premium feeling system Nintendo has ever put out. Surprisingly nice tbh, and night and day compared to Switch (1).

I'd have easily paid $500 for an OLED screen and 6nm node (better battery life).

So I'm pretty stoked to see the system itself do well. The biggest issue I have is game pricing and Nintendos "variable pricing" approach in general..

I love Mario Kart World, but I don't understand why it'd be priced at $80 relative to other games. Absolutely ridiculous.
 
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LakeOf9 said:
Isn't that what it should ultimately be about? None of the other nonsense or bullshit matters, what matters is the games. Nintendo is bringing great games in beloved IPs, that can be played nowhere else, and so they can tank just about anything else.

That's how it should be.
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I will agree that games should always be number one and that Nintendo still remembers that great exclusives sell consoles, but I wouldn't disregard other factors. This is like a green light for Nintendo to become more anti-consumer and to charge even more next time. I really don't like when big companies become so cocky and confident, knowing they can ride on the popularity of the previous hardware.
 
I'm happy.

The more successful it is, the bigger the gaming community will be, third-party support, used game sales and so many other positive points.
 
I don't care either way. I don't really understand it though. Games over here are over $100 and the superior versions are cheaper. The only new game from Nintendo is another Mario Kart. I mean enjoy your new system, but I don't see the appeal right now.
 
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xrnzaaas said:
I will agree that games should always be number one and that Nintendo still remembers that great exclusives sell consoles, but I wouldn't disregard other factors. This is like a green light for Nintendo to become more anti-consumer and to charge even more next time. I really don't like when big companies become so cocky and confident, knowing they can ride on the popularity of the previous hardware.
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Some more anti-consumer coming in JUly with DK:Bananza! IT's so good it's bad!
 
tr1p1ex said:
I don't see it when you can return the thing if you aren't satisfied or ebay/craigslist it. Basically no risk.
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Well, it takes a bunch of time to evaluate a system. That's why reviews exist in the first place. And the earlier the review, the less time you have to wait before being able to make a decision.
 
FireFly said:
Well, it takes a bunch of time to evaluate a system. That's why reviews exist in the first place. And the earlier the review, the less time you have to wait before being able to make a decision.
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But you can buy the system and see for yourself with no risk. It's not like it isn't easy and fun to test a product like Switch 2. And easy to return too.
 
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