How many hardware will the xss sell?

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Since the xss started at 300$, price reduction will be inevitable. We will the see the system at around 200$ in the mark in the future.
Will xss sell 30m to 50m?
 
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kingfey said:
Since the xss started at 300$, price reduction will be inevitable. We will the see the system at around 200$ in the mark in the future.
Will xss sell 30m to 50m?
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I don't think we'll see a price reduction until we're well past the chip shortage. Microsoft won't reduce the price until demand for it dramatically decreases and I don't see that happening as long as XSX can't be found.
 
Well i predicted 70-80mil Series consoles before the gen started, and i'm going to stick to that number (even though i'm starting to think they could go over 80mil).
As for the split, i'm going to go 35mil for XSS, and around 40mil for XSX.
XSS has the real advantage at the moment of the XSX and PS5 being so hard to find. And although i can def see the XSS being abig hit every Christmas, i feel over the course of the entire year, XSX will sell more. Once XSX is widely available of course.
 
It's an amazing console. Been gaming for roughly 30 years and it's hard to not be impressed by the little beast when paired with Gamepass. Forza and Halo look great on a 4K tv. I'm just having a blast. I bought it because I couldn't find an X but now I'm glad I did and have no problem waiting for the next X iteration down the line.
 
you better hope it doesnt sell as much, otherwise you are going to get a lot of next gen subpar third party games.
 
Around what Xbox sold last gen. People tend to forget that Xbox One won several holiday months last gen because of some insane sub $300 deals as early as 2014 and 2015. They were able to beat the PS4 in those months, but the PS4 would take over after the holiday season.
 
lh032 said:
you better hope it doesnt sell as much, otherwise you are going to get a lot of next gen subpar third party games.
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What subpar third party games have we received this year? It seems the only console getting subpar versions is the xss. Devs are downporting from the XSX version, not the other way around.
 
kingfey said:
Since the xss started at 300$, price reduction will be inevitable. We will the see the system at around 200$ in the mark in the future.
Will xss sell 30m to 50m?
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No we likely won't.

That was the whole point of the Series S - this generation there likely aren't going to be price drops because there's virtually nowhere to go with shrinks for the SOC, which is the main factor in price drops and redesigns. Microsoft were aware of this so they wanted something for the people that usually wait til consoles are $300 or less to buy one, and this way they get it from day 1.

It will outsell the Series X handily. People care more about price than power.
 
I highly doubt it'll receive a price cut ever, given inflation and all that jazz.

You will see bundles though like the Fortnite one and Game Pass Ultimate bundles for sure adding equivalent "value" as a price cut. Maybe higher SSD models for $50 more or some shit down the line.
 
40 million XSS and 40 million XSX. The vast majority will play using the Xbox streaming stick and app on their tvs Especially in other countries where paying a lot of money for a console is not feasible. I see the Xbox streaming stick and app on tvs cutting into series S sales toward the end of the gen. But for right now Series S is roaring out of the gate.
 
I say 45m for the XSS and 40m for the xsx. I think any streaming stick will largely be additional 2/3rd device in the household and won't impact the sales numbers massively.
 
As much as I appreciate the S over the X, I think it will be a good seller in the beginning but will slowly decline over time.

Then again I expect there will be a refresh/replacement in a couple years.
 
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As much as I appreciate the S over the X, I think it will be a good seller in the beginning but will slowly decline over time.

Then again I expect there will be a refresh/replacement in a couple years.
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Agreed. Excellent decision from Ms to make the xss but its popularity will fade over time. It'll continue to sell, but once the xsx is readily available xss sales will drop off.
 
Hezekiah said:
The lowest selling of the next-gen consoles, but pointless estimating anyway as the numbers will never be released.
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The only correct answer in this thread so far.

The Series S will become increasingly irrelevant as more people get 4k tvs. There is this huge misunderstanding that "Casuals" will buy the Series S because "It's the cheapest". Casuals are much more likely to go for the most popular platform, which isn't Xbox to begin with.
 
Rykan said:
The only correct answer in this thread so far.

The Series S will become increasingly irrelevant as more people get 4k tvs. There is this huge misunderstanding that "Casuals" will buy the Series S because "It's the cheapest". Casuals are much more likely to go for the most popular platform, which isn't Xbox to begin with.
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yeah but when will Nintendo release the switch 2?
 
Lognor said:
Agreed. Excellent decision from Ms to make the xss but its popularity will fade over time. It'll continue to sell, but once the xsx is readily available xss sales will drop off.
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Nah in 2-3 years time when the Series X is still the same price it was on release day, people will still be buying the Series S.

It seems that a lot of people on here are still expecting big price drops for these consoles when it's just not going to happen. Even the previous generation barely saw any price drops. A PS4 is still bloody $400 here in australia. By this stage of the previous generations the consoles were in the bargain bin. The Switch still hasn't either.

With manufacturing processes where they are now there's just no room for price drops without the next big breakthrough in silicon or its replacement.
 
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More than the X. But It's hard to say what MS has planned for mid-gen. I assume they will release a stronger X version, but will they also release a stronger S? And will they keep the old versions around?
 
kingfey said:
Since the xss started at 300$, price reduction will be inevitable. We will the see the system at around 200$ in the mark in the future.
Will xss sell 30m to 50m?
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I actually don't think the XSS will drop in price anytime soon, if not ever especially if it keeps selling quite well. The now antiquated PS4 technically didn't even receive an official price drop yet and the older Nintendo Switch is still $300 as well.

If Microsoft's keeps going on the same manufacturing path they are currently taking, than I think the XSS could sell admirably well. It think it depends on the availability of the XSX mostly.
 
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The series s alone will outsell the ps5 and the switch. The price will drop because they'll make it up with gamepass, something others cant do
 
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MrFunSocks said:
No we likely won't.

That was the whole point of the Series S - this generation there likely aren't going to be price drops because there's virtually nowhere to go with shrinks for the SOC, which is the main factor in price drops and redesigns. Microsoft were aware of this so they wanted something for the people that usually wait til consoles are $300 or less to buy one, and this way they get it from day 1.

It will outsell the Series X handily. People care more about price than power.
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Do you have a source for this? Sony have already said they are making a profit on the PS5 disc edition back in june
 
With sales predictions its puzzling when people think the PS5 will sell as much or more then the PS4. The console installbase is not huge and it has not changed much in the last 3 gens

Ps2 gen - 180million consoles sold
360 gen - 260million
Ps4 gen - 190 million

So for the PS5 to sell as much as the PS4 then xbox series would have to sell the same as the X1, which is not happening.

The console market does not seem to be growing, I would say it might shrink a little bit because PC, handheld/hybridPC, hybrid console/handheld and cloud gaming is growing.
 
SlimySnake said:
Around what Xbox sold last gen. People tend to forget that Xbox One won several holiday months last gen because of some insane sub $300 deals as early as 2014 and 2015. They were able to beat the PS4 in those months, but the PS4 would take over after the holiday season.
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That's probably true, but people also tend to forgot, that Xbox One had barely exclusive games after 2014. And moving hardware is hard without reason to buy it, right? That will probably change this time around.
Next year Starfield, Redfall, Forza, Deathloop
2023 Hellblade 2, Perfect Dark, Contraband, Avowed, GhostWire,
2024 Fable, Everwild, State of Decay 3

And also, best exclusive of them all, Xbox Game Pass.
 
reksveks said:
Think technically they said they weren't making a loss so I don't expect a profit greater than 10-20 per device. Obviously we don't know what Sony's priorities are in terms of sales and profitablity.
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Okay.

But either way the point remains that Sony has already been able to cut production costs on the PS5. Which apparently won't happen according to the poster I quoted.

The only reason the ps4 didn't come down is price was because they were still able to sell it at 300 and make massive profit margins
 
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