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[SirMossyBloke]

The build quality alone is much better than the S4. I don't know about you, but if I'm paying that much for a phone, I expect it to built out of something more premium than plastic.

There's actually quite a bit of stuff the One is better at, but i'm not going to answer his ignorance if he can't even do simple google searches.

 

[jrcbandit]

I'm really tempted by the One since the GS4 doesn't seem like much of an upgrade over the GS3 (current phone). One concern I do have is the horrible resale value of HTC phones - the Evo 4G LTE on Sprint is worth about half the value of the GS3. I wonder if the One will retain more value, or will it be yet another phone loved by enthusiasts but having really poor sales overall?

Also, I have to decide which carrier to use. Sprint usually has good developers making roms for phones, but I am not sure about T-mobile. I am tired of Sprint's crappy 3G speeds in Houston although the LTE network has been expanding (current provider). T-mobile would likely be overall faster and without a contract for unlimited 4G/LTE, although more $ when the price of the phone is taken into account.

 

[Cipherr]

HTC has absolutely nothing over the S4.

I somehow missed this. Lol.

 

[GSG Flash]

There's actually quite a bit of stuff the One is better at, but i'm not going to answer his ignorance if he can't even do simple google searches.

I agree, build quality/materials and UI are the most apparent though. Absolutely hate touch wiz, it looks like it's made by a highschooler, Sense is just way more elegant. Even the bloated to hell old versions of Sense are vastly more preferable to touch wiz.

 

[Gannd]

I'm really tempted by the One since the GS4 doesn't seem like much of an upgrade over the GS3 (current phone). One concern I do have is the horrible resale value of HTC phones - the Evo 4G LTE on Sprint is worth about half the value of the GS3. I wonder if the One will retain more value, or will it be yet another phone loved by enthusiasts but having really poor sales overall?

Also, I have to decide which carrier to use. Sprint usually has good developers making roms for phones, but I am not sure about T-mobile. I am tired of Sprint's crappy 3G speeds in Houston although the LTE network has been expanding (current provider). T-mobile would likely be overall faster and without a contract for unlimited 4G/LTE, although more $ when the price of the phone is taken into account.

Being on Sprint hurts your resale value. I think the HTC One is going to really hold up because the S4 was underwhelming and the One is getting rave reviews.

 

[shinshoryuken]

I got a hold of one!! not mine though...mine comes in tomorrow.

build quality is just a tad overrated, but its still the best feeling/looking Android phone no doubt.

 

[SirMossyBloke]

After playing around with the demo for a bit, I did notice one small issue. When the power saving mode is enabled for display, it has this very subtle flashing on webpages as it tries to adjust. I played around with a few settings and it's not automatic brightness settings, just the power setting. It's a little annoying so I turned it off.

 

[The Faceless Master]

The build quality and overall feel will most likely be light years ahead, not to mention the speakers. That's far more telling than minor internal spec discrepancies. Looks like the HTC One doesn't have an SD card slot though.

from what i've seen, the build quality is not good and the speakers are a big part of that... one small drop and they can pop out and not pop back in. unrepairable, etc... now if you mean the 'trophy quality' as in looks without considering actual quality in material worskmanship, then yeah, some people will love mounting one on a plaque and never touching it.

That's a good point but it comes with the territory when you have a seamless shell. A lot of people are probably used to though if they're coming from the iPhone.

all six of the iphone models are easier to repair than the One. plus Apple Store...

 

[reKon]

An almost hour and a half difference out of 10 hours is very significant, yes.

Significant is like moving from a Galaxy Nexus to a GS4 or iPhone 3GS > iPhone 4S. I'm talking about a battery difference that you will actually really notice. Like I've said, it doesn't bother me to browse GAF using the dark theme and this doesn't hinder my enjoyment of using a phone at all plus the battery would definitely last longer.

It's good though that the HTC One can take on the giants in battery life

 

[SirMossyBloke]

Significant is like moving from a Galaxy Nexus to a GS4 or iPhone 3GS > iPhone 4S. I'm talking about a battery difference that you will actually really notice. Like I've said, it doesn't bother me to browse GAF using the dark theme and this doesn't hinder my enjoyment of using a phone at all plus the battery would definitely last longer.

It's good though that the HTC One can take on the giants in battery life

It's good that HTC can compete with anyone with battery life to be honest. It's about time they turned that around.

 

[shinshoryuken]

from what i've seen, the build quality is not good and the speakers are a big part of that... one small drop and they can pop out and not pop back in. unrepairable, etc... now if you mean the 'trophy quality' as in looks without considering actual quality in material worskmanship, then yeah, some people will love mounting one on a plaque and never touching it.






all six of the iphone models are easier to repair than the One. plus Apple Store...

that's the one video were they both dropped the Iphone 5 and the HTC One...that small drop you talking about broke the iphone 5s screen...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwE9PGDnlvs

c'mon you can't really base the built quality with one video.

here's a video of a iphone 5 vs galaxy S3..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4zQKeAEqsQ

the S3 camera crack on the first drop.....that doesn't mean the camera is the weak part...

well once again...haters gona to hate...

 

[The Faceless Master]

Since when do batteries all of a sudden atrophy after just two years of use?

but they do. they lose something like 10% capacity after a year of normal usage.

A power user? The S4 has significantly worse web browsing time than the One. What now?

what now is power users throw on dark themes and watch their energy usage decrease while LCD panels suck up the same juice no matter what.

Well a power user is someone who uses their phone for much longer than a typical consumer. Not sure what he's referring to.

sooooooo i guess 13 year old girls are power users.

An almost hour and a half difference out of 10 hours is very significant, yes.

pretty sure that 16 minutes is significantly closer to 1/4 hr than 1/2 hr.

 

[D23]

oh lawd im abotu to upgrade from my piece of shit samsung galaxy s 1 to HTC one next week.. o lawd

 

[The Faceless Master]

that's the one video were they both dropped the Iphone 5 and the HTC One...that small drop you talking about broke the iphone 5s screen...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwE9PGDnlvs

c'mon you can't really base the built quality with one video.

here's a video of a iphone 5 vs galaxy S3..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4zQKeAEqsQ

the S3 camera crack on the first drop.....that doesn't mean the camera is the weak part...

well once again...haters gona to hate...

those other devices are repairable.

I'm really tempted by the One since the GS4 doesn't seem like much of an upgrade over the GS3 (current phone). One concern I do have is the horrible resale value of HTC phones - the Evo 4G LTE on Sprint is worth about half the value of the GS3. I wonder if the One will retain more value, or will it be yet another phone loved by enthusiasts but having really poor sales overall?

Also, I have to decide which carrier to use. Sprint usually has good developers making roms for phones, but I am not sure about T-mobile. I am tired of Sprint's crappy 3G speeds in Houston although the LTE network has been expanding (current provider). T-mobile would likely be overall faster and without a contract for unlimited 4G/LTE, although more $ when the price of the phone is taken into account.

resale value should be good. resale value on those previous handsets was low because demand was low.

 

[Cipherr]

oh lawd im abotu to upgrade from my piece of shit samsung galaxy s 1 to HTC one next week.. o lawd

Dat jump..... Whats the S1 running these days? Gingerbread? Jeeeeeeeesus... Dude thats going to be glorious.

 

[Marty Chinn]

those other devices are repairable.

Repairable != build quality.

You can have great build quality but low repairability.

 

[The Faceless Master]

Repairable != build quality.

You can have great build quality but low repairability.

but we're not talking about devices with great build quality though. i was pointing out how easily the handset can get damaged and the reply was "well, these other handsets can get damaged too!" which is why ease of repair became a big factor.

 

[SirMossyBloke]

but we're not talking about devices with great build quality though. i was pointing out how easily the handset can get damaged and the reply was "well, these other handsets can get damaged too!" which is why ease of repair became a big factor.

I just watched an iPhone 5 vs HTC One drop test and its durability was excellent. The bottom speaker did pop off and it didn't go back on due to it being held by adhesive. Nothing some more adhesive couldn't fix (not exactly unrepairable then I guess lol),

Other than that the phone withstood three different drops with hardly a dent.

sooooooo i guess 13 year old girls are power users.

A bit late on this arent you? This conversation was corrected hours ago.

pretty sure that 16 minutes is significantly closer to 1/4 hr than 1/2 hr.

I'm pretty sure that 1 hour and 16 minutes is closer to an hour and a half than just an hour.

You want to keep breaking it down into pieces?

 

[SirMossyBloke]

Double post, sorry

 

[The Faceless Master]

I'm pretty sure that 1 hour and 16 minutes is closer to an hour and a half than just an hour.

You want to keep breaking it down into pieces?

would you say it was SIGNIFICANTLY closer?

 

[shinshoryuken]

but we're not talking about devices with great build quality though. i was pointing out how easily the handset can get damaged and the reply was "well, these other handsets can get damaged too!" which is why ease of repair became a big factor.

um....you did say the the HTC One build quality is not good....

from what i've seen, the build quality is not good and the speakers are a big part of that... one small drop and they can pop out and not pop back in. unrepairable, etc... now if you mean the 'trophy quality' as in looks without considering actual quality in material worskmanship, then yeah, some people will love mounting one on a plaque and never touching it.

um....so you disagree with ALL of reviews that says that is has great quality and material workmanship.....

 

[Talon]

Faceless uses a belt clip.

That is all.

 

[The Faceless Master]

um....you did say the the HTC One build quality is not good....

um....so you disagree with ALL of reviews that says that is has great quality and material workmanship.....

how many of them tested it and how many of them said it was good because it was machined aluminum?

Faceless uses a belt clip.

That is all.

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[shinshoryuken]

Faceless uses a belt clip.

That is all.

OH SNAP...HAHAHAHA.....ok makes sense now....

 

[SirMossyBloke]

would you say it was SIGNIFICANTLY closer?

I would say the difference between battery time while web browsing is

 

[The Faceless Master]

OH SNAP...HAHAHAHA.....ok makes sense now....

also: landscape launcher!

I would say the difference between battery time while web browsing is

for a POWER USER that would swing the other way.

dark themes!

 

[SirMossyBloke]

also: landscape launcher!







for a POWER USER that would swing the other way.

dark themes!

Honest question, can you dark theme a lot of webpages?

 

[Talon]

I have the sense that Faceless was weaned on Compaq desktops and Archos media players.

Honest question, can you dark theme a lot of webpages?

I'm pretty certainly there's a way you can force a negative color scheme on Android.

 

[The Faceless Master]

Honest question, can you dark theme a lot of webpages?

stock Samsung browser has an option for inverted screen rendering.

I have the sense that Faceless was weaned on Compaq desktops and Archos media players.

iriver and creative media players and other than my first Packard Bell running Win95 i built mine... oh wait, there was that Dell i got for free somewhere during the XP era...

I'm pretty certainly there's a way you can force a negative color scheme on Android.

that too.

 

[SirMossyBloke]

stock Samsung browser has an option for inverted screen rendering.

Wouldn't that... kinda mess up a lot of stuff. I see if on the One under accessability. You know i'm just going to try it now..

Edit: OK, it's awful. The Verge looks like a horror movie. basically if it's not GAF then the battery life is gonna drain faster on the S4.

 

[shinshoryuken]

I have the sense that Faceless was weaned on Compaq desktops and Archos media players.

dayam you..you keep making me spit off my drink...

 

[Talon]

Wouldn't that... kinda mess up a lot of stuff. I see if on the One under accessability. You know i'm just going to try it now..

Edit: OK, it's awful. The Verge looks like a horror movie. basically if it's not GAF then the battery life is gonna drain faster on the S4.

Actually, it isn't that bad. I use negative mode late at night, so I don't bother my girlfriend. Obviously it fucks up images, but text looks perfectly fine.

Ah, iRiver. I bought that Xslim MP3 CD player in the nascent days of the iPod. It's still floating around somewhere.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

um....so you disagree with ALL of reviews that says that is has great quality and material workmanship.....

ALL of reviews which had the phone for 1-2 weeks, probably in a testing lab, and none of the reviewers actually abused the device in real-world usage for months. That's typical of HTC devices, look pretty, feel good in the hand, pleases reviewers, and then they fall apart in a few months of real ownership. And this device is unrepairable, so have fun with that!

 

[shinshoryuken]

ALL of reviews which had the phone for 1-2 weeks, probably in a testing lab, and none of the reviewers actually abused the device in real-world usage for months. That's typical of HTC devices, look pretty, feel good in the hand, pleases reviewers, and then they fall apart in a few months of real ownership. And this device is unrepairable, so have fun with that!

.....say the HTC device expert..

 

[SirMossyBloke]

ALL of reviews which had the phone for 1-2 weeks, probably in a testing lab, and none of the reviewers actually abused the device in real-world usage for months. That's typical of HTC devices, look pretty, feel good in the hand, pleases reviewers, and then they fall apart in a few months of real ownership. And this device is unrepairable, so have fun with that!

I have seen more fucked up Samsung S3 phones in the years i've been selling phones than any phone to date sans the iPhone 4. For someone so hellbent on Samsung, you probably shouldn't be complaining about another companies build quality.

 

[Trouble]

UPS tracking still says Monday, no updates for 36 hours. I'm approaching tantrum critical mass.

 

[SUPREME1]

HTC has absolutely nothing over the S4. If you want your hand to freeze, sure, all for the aluminum back.

Right off the bat... it's better looking. By like a mile. Unless you like ugly phones Then yeah, it's got nothing over it.

 

[SUPREME1]

ALL of reviews which had the phone for 1-2 weeks, probably in a testing lab, and none of the reviewers actually abused the device in real-world usage for months. That's typical of HTC devices, look pretty, feel good in the hand, pleases reviewers, and then they fall apart in a few months of real ownership. And this device is unrepairable, so have fun with that!

Not buying into the whole "fall apart in a few months of real ownership" line.

I had an EVO SHIFT (Sprint, caseless) for just shy of two years (two months shy to be exact). So did my wife. I upgraded to an Optimus G, while my wife upgraded (against her will, lol) to a Galaxy Nexus.

I gave mine to a co-worker (in great condition, albeit with some slight scratches and a battery that needed replecing) who had a real shitty old blackberry curve and who refused to upgrade if it meant he'd have to fork over cash or get into a contract. He's been rocking it proudly since early December and it's been going strong.

My wife kept hers as a back up just in case her phone broke.



So yeah, real world ownership. Two phones. Two years.

 

[The Faceless Master]

Not buying into the whole "fall apart in a few months of real ownership" line.

I had an EVO SHIFT (Sprint, caseless) for just shy of two years (two months shy to be exact). So did my wife. I upgraded to an Optimus G, while my wife upgraded (against her will, lol) to a Galaxy Nexus.

I gave mine to a co-worker (in great condition, albeit with some slight scratches and a battery that needed replecing) who had a real shitty old blackberry curve and who refused to upgrade if it meant he'd have to fork over cash or get into a contract. He's been rocking it proudly since early December and it's been going strong.

My wife kept hers as a back up just in case her phone broke.

So yeah, real world ownership. Two phones. Two years.

my Sprint Mogul (HTC Titan) still works and is in decent shape! must be pushing 6 years now...

 

[Gannd]

UPS tracking still says Monday, no updates for 36 hours. I'm approaching tantrum critical mass.

When you get yours you'll love it. I love mine.

 

[pot]

I want one of these so bad =(

 

[IronChef]

Good looking phone, but I wouldn't trade the SD slot of samsung phones for just looks.

On the topic of good looking phones, Pantech has just announced an almost no-bezel phone:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/18/pantech-vega-iron/

Now THAT's a gorgeous phone.

 

[shinshoryuken]

wow..Sense 5 look-wise is awesome....very modern and classy!

 

[Gannd]

Good looking phone, but I wouldn't trade the SD slot of samsung phones for just looks.

On the topic of good looking phones, Pantech has just announced an almost no-bezel phone:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/18/pantech-vega-iron/

Now THAT's a gorgeous phone.

720p is lame. Why do you need an SD slot? My HTC One has 32gb and with the cloud I have access to more. What are you using your phone for?

 

[The Faceless Master]

720p is lame. Why do you need an SD slot? My HTC One has 32gb and with the cloud I have access to more. What are you using your phone for?

32GB is lame. why do you need 1080p? are you not a POWER USER or something?

 

[markot]

Getting mine early next week! No sd card is lame, but I can live with 32gb.

Gs4 looks kinda lame. Nice specs, but feh, feels like they played it safe after the s3 success. Not that i can blame them.

 

[IronChef]

720p is lame. Why do you need an SD slot? My HTC One has 32gb and with the cloud I have access to more. What are you using your phone for?

Movies and entire TV series on the go, among other things.

I posted that phone merely because it is beautiful phone, regardless of its other specs. And I doubt you can tell the difference between 720p vs 1080p on a 5 inch screen.

Back when HD TVs were just beginning, the average person couldn't even see the difference between 720p vs 1080p on a 50" screen.

Anyways, I'd never trade functionality/versatility for looks, but that doesn't mean I don't appreciate great looking phones, and there will be some awesome LOOKING phones with no-bezel designs coming out in the future. This pantech is probably just the beginning of a flood.

 

[SirMossyBloke]

32GB is lame. why do you need 1080p? are you not a POWER USER or something?

I'm gonna regret that one aren't I lol

 

[hwalker84]

Several people in this thread have the device and there's no pictures???? This thread is ultra lame.

 

[Material541]

Several people in this thread have the device and there's no pictures???? This thread is ultra lame.

I felt your pain earlier today...until I received mine a couple of hours ago, I haven't put it down since...haven't even taken any pics yet