Humble Bundle Weekly: Team 17 (lots of Worms) - Now impossible to share keys

So, first they take away BTA and now no more keys. Well, this won't affect me much since the bundles are still pretty amazing deals regardless, but I can't help but be saddened by the changes.
 
Don't have any of the worms games on steam so might jump on this, shame about the keys but think it was always a matter of time before they started closing that option off, while sharing keys is great and all - even better for the charity to get a few extra bob off friends you direct to the bundle (as they may provide more than the minimum)

That said some kind of legit gift-giving alternative would be neat if they could do it. Maybe like suggesting you give a set amount if you want to pass it onto someone elses steam account, that way people can still gift bundles, and nobody loses out.
 
Anyone post this yet? From Humble Bundle FAQ

Q:Why the change?
A:The new Steam key redemption process will make it even easier to quickly redeem your games on Steam! One click and the games will appear instantly in your library!
Q:How do I redeem my Steam keys?
A:When you click on a Steam key for the first time you will be walked through a process of linking your Steam account to your Humble Bundle account. Once you have completed this process you will never have to do it again! When you click on the button for your Steam key, the game will automatically be redeemed to your account with just one click!

Why do people think that everyone wants to link all their accounts together? Can they not even conceive of people feeling differently enough to make it an option?
 
ENTITLEMENT

Don't you even ask for anything, you goddamn peasant, if you complain even once, oops, excuse me sir, your ENTITLEMENT is showing!
Wow, talk about completely blowing what I'm saying out of proportion. lol

But someone who might only want a game that is one of the BTA games might not want to pay 5-7 dollars for a game that will be going on a steam sale for 2 bucks eventually.

What about when a bundle down the road offers a bunch of games that you already own because of a previous humble bundle? The last humble bundle did that to me. Nearly every 'bonus' game that launched for the second week was something I already owned. At least I have the steam keys to give away to someone that might have missed the bundle that they were originally part of.

The point is that these new policies are lowering the value of the purchase for a lot of people. Having a bundle with a couple of games you already owned wasn't a major issue because you could just give it to a friend or fellow gaffer. Now you are actually being punished for buying previous bundles.

You can go on about how it's for charity, but the people buying these bundles are doing it to get the games. If everyone who bought the bundles only cared about the charity, they would just donate money directly to the charity instead of daring to ask for a bunch of games.
Some good points. I guess they are relying too much on the goodness of people's hearts. They should know better.
 
Yes, its ok to speak up about things you don't like, but I think its worth considering how justifiable your criticism actually is.

For instance, if you found this miraculously cheap place that sold loaves of bread for 10 cents each, you'd be pretty happy, right? But then one day, they start charging 20 cents for loaves. Its basically like getting upset over that and complaining to them, even if its still ridiculously cheaper than anywhere else. And in this situation, you're not even paying anymore than you were before. In fact, its more like if they told you, "Hey, we'll still sell you bread for 10 cents a loaf, but you cant share it. Tell your friends about us and they can get the loaves of bread for 10 cents, too." And then imagine that getting this loaf of bread didn't involve any travel for your friends, so all they had to do was make a few mouse clicks and they could have 10 cent loaves of bread, too.

Just for perspective. That's what complaining about this sounds like to me. People complaining about 20 cent loaves of bread.

To be honest, this reminds me of the attitude that one shouldn't criticise free stuff, like webcomics for example. It's really a matter of principle. I'd extend the bread metaphor but I can't really be arsed. It's a great bundle if you don't own any of the games - I do, and bought it assuming I'd be able to give away the spare codes again, only to find I can't. It's frustrating for me because, as I've said, I now have 4 games that nobody is using, and I can't give them away. I think that's reasonable.

Edit: To clarify, I appreciate your tone in general, though I disagree I hope I'm not coming off as angry or aggressive or anything like that; I can see where you're coming from. It is quite trifling.
 
This is what happens if you try to redeem a game you already have...

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To be honest, this reminds me of the attitude that one shouldn't criticise free stuff, like webcomics for example. It's really a matter of principle. I'd extend the bread metaphor but I can't really be arsed. It's a great bundle if you don't own any of the games - I do, and bought it assuming I'd be able to give away the spare codes again, only to find I can't. It's frustrating for me because, as I've said, I now have 4 games that nobody is using, and I can't give them away. I think that's reasonable.
I admit, they need to be clear about this change of policy up-front. I'll give you that you were misled and probably do have some right to complain.
 
On one hand, it seems silly and it goes against what they used to do.

On the other, people are really damn cheap nowadays.

On my third hand, did people forget this was also about charity? It seems most just don't give one damn about the kids anymore.

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To be honest, this reminds me of the attitude that one shouldn't criticise free stuff, like webcomics for example. It's really a matter of principle. I'd extend the bread metaphor but I can't really be arsed. It's a great bundle if you don't own any of the games - I do, and bought it assuming I'd be able to give away the spare codes again, only to find I can't. It's frustrating for me because, as I've said, I now have 4 games that nobody is using, and I can't give them away. I think that's reasonable.

Edit: To clarify, I appreciate your tone in general, though I disagree I hope I'm not coming off as angry or aggressive or anything like that; I can see where you're coming from. It is quite trifling.

And anyone who really wanna play those games (like you said Armageddon) could also spend the $1 to buy them.
 
It was inevitable, I suppose.

Still, I enjoy having the ability to give out keys for games I already have. A few of the Worms games were in an Indie Gala last year, so paying just for 3 games and not being able to share the other keys (especially if it's keys only, no DRM-free downloads) dissuades me from buying.
 
But if you want one Game from tier 1 and 1 Game for BTA, you still couldnt give your friend the keys with the previous model of "1 key for tier 1, 1 key for BTA".

I dont really see the problem. Besides. Its just (at least) one dollar, about 80 Eurocent for Armageddon. I would argue your friend would have the money for that...
If I paid for something, I should have the ability to determine how I can use it. This is just one more restriction being placed on a product I am purchasing by a middleman. Why shouldn't there be a backlash instead of typical apathetic indifference, all because it is "cheap" or charities are involved? People have legitimate concerns about the principle of the thing, as well as specific issues regarding a huge potential change to Humble Bundles which directly affects their ability to control what they buy.

Apparently those crying "ENTITLEMENT" haven't noticed, or are merely ignoring, the many thousands of Steam activating codes that have been or are being given away by people here on GAF to others who missed out on previous bundles or who literally didn't have enough money to buy the dirt cheap games themselves. Those people actually exist, they are quite appreciative of people helping them out, as are the many other people who get gifts like this from their friends/family members. Apparently being able to control what I buy and gifting what I already paid for is in some way an "ENTITLEMENT" now though. Why? There is no legitimate reason to assume it is so. Only because people who are indifferent to the issue couldn't care less.

I myself have given away hundreds of Steam activating codes. 99.9% of all of them were appreciated by those who got them. I also must have turned at least ten or more people on to Humble Bundles, which they now buy themselves. I SHOULD BE ABLE TO CONTROL WHAT I BUY. This is just one more form of intrusive DRM. Think about it.
 
Does Armageddon work decently on Windows now? I have a retail copy from way back and I had to kill Desktop Window Manager just to get the colors to not be borked. And even then the interface doesn't scale well to the resolution.

Armageddon works well on Windows 7.
 
Apparently those crying "ENTITLEMENT" haven't noticed, or are merely ignoring, the many thousands of Steam activating codes that have been or are being given away by people here on GAF to others who missed out on previous bundles or who literally didn't have enough money to buy the dirt cheap games themselves. Those people actually exist.
No, I'm quite confident there aren't any PC gamers out there that truly cant afford to spend $1.
 
I SHOULD BE ABLE TO CONTROL WHAT I BUY.

But it is clear now, that you buy only the games you dont have now.

Its not really that different when buying DLC-bundles on Steam or GMG or such. If you already own one of the DLCs, you dont get a key for the one you already have.
It was cool you could gift the ones you had before, but it seems people still get a good deal out of the Humble Bundle.

I also gifted a lot of my spare keys on GAF or gave some to friends, but I still dont see the big problem. And yeah, especially because of the little money thats involved with it.
 
I'll buy it, but because of this, Humble Bundle isn't getting its tip from now on. Instead, I will just put that money into the charities. I actually do give my spare keys to my friends, and it is always spare keys. Keys for games which I already own on Steam which are useless for me otherwise.

As for the issue of people selling Humble Bundle keys, I don't understand how that is any different than selling a used physical game you don't want. I don't do it because I'm not a jerk and buy the games from Humble Bundle directly because that supports developers and charity (who both did get my money for this bundle) and gives me the games cheaper than the scalpers who sell Steam Keys.
 
It doesn't bother me that much, but it sucks that now we can't share the keys for games we already own, but I find it ok because this will stop the resellers, I think
 
They don't know that, though. There's no way for them to stop people from selling codes.
Which is why I think it would be neat if they implemented something via Steam friends. Sync Steam friends with the humble bundle. Already own a game? Send it straight to a friend who has been on your list for at least say, 3 months.
we werent supposed to be sharing the keys anyways.
Humble Bundle and Steam's recent growth owes much to this sharing (and probably Dota 2) in my opinion. Cut off your nose to spite your face seems appropriate.
 
That is also an option. What isn't an option anymore is for me to go to a friend "well, I'm not using this key, so here you go".

Yeah. Its a bit shitty, but I still dont see the problem, since the Humble Bundle offered a lot of bundle with 1 keys before and I would argue most of the people used both of those keys.

And now, the ones who really wanna play a game like armageddon can still just buy it for $1 instead of getting it for free. Its still spare money. 1 bread or 1 bubble gum.
 
And that's the straw that broke the camel's back for me. I would buy bundles and give away the keys to the games I didn't want or already owned. With this move I won't be buying any future bundles. Oh well.
 
Question GAF.

I already have Worms Armageddon and Worms Crazy Golf (lol) - is it still worth getting the rest of the games?

Also how is Worms Revolution Gold + All DLC. Not so sure about Alien Breed series since I'm mostly only interested in the Worms series.


Edit: I hear from other forum I go to some people got keys, did anyone get it as well?
 
Yeah. Its a bit shitty, but I still dont see the problem, since the Humble Bundle offered a lot of bundle with 1 keys before and I would argue most of the people used both of those keys.

Honestly, this is my biggest problem with the new system. They heard feedback that said "We already own 2 of the 5 games for the bundle, why can't we get individual keys instead?", and they did it. With the new system, they are undoing their positive change, and taking an extra step back.
 
Moreso than the lack of individual sharing of keys, it's the lack of DRM-free copies that bothers me. I guess for all future bundles without DRM-free copies, I'll just donate it all to charity.
 
Honestly, this is my biggest problem with the new system. They heard feedback that said "We already own 2 of the 5 games for the bundle, why can't we get individual keys instead?", and they did it. With the new system, they are undoing their positive change, and taking an extra step back.

And I really guess thats because of those shady sellers? I mean about 3-4 months, during the summer-sale, people didnt really know much about steamtrades or such. At least it wasnt that big.

Nowadays the trading in Steam got so big, that you have people buying crazy amounts of bundles just to sell them. It is far easier to search for such people now since the Humble Bundle guys can see exactly who redeems those.
 
I didn't have the games this time, so nothing was wasted, so it went over well, but from now on I'll think twice or thrice before I buy the next humblebundle.
 
Not crazy about the change in Steam key policy. Like others, I've been more than happy to buy any old bundle simply for the sake of charity and gift away the games I already own. That's less likely to happen now.
 
But it is clear now, that you buy only the games you dont have now.

Its not really that different when buying DLC-bundles on Steam or GMG or such. If you already own one of the DLCs, you dont get a key for the one you already have.
It was cool you could gift the ones you had before, but it seems people still get a good deal out of the Humble Bundle.

I also gifted a lot of my spare keys on GAF or gave some to friends, but I still dont see the big problem. And yeah, especially because of the little money thats involved with it.
The big problem is that they are now tying their bundles to specific accounts. Pretty strange for a bundle that originally was specifically oriented towards NON-DRM gaming. This isn't the same as buying a DLC Bundle off of Steam or GMG, Steam has always done that for most everything they have sold, and that has always been one of the biggest complaints about Steam. The idea that I would be buying the same product multiple times, but have each following purchase not count as an actual purchase. Humble Bundles were created with a distinct DRM-Free mentality, which is now being subverted because they don't like people taking advantage of their cheap bundles. Why should the majority of Humble buyers have this restrictive burden placed on them to deal with those "abusing the system"? Why offer the same type of restrictions and reasoning used by companies pushing specific pro-DRM solutions?

Why can I not control what I have purchased? Why should I not feel the same indignant feelings for Humble Bundles that I have felt for Steam's similar behavior for years now?
 
Moreso than the lack of individual sharing of keys, it's the lack of DRM-free copies that bothers me. I guess for all future bundles without DRM-free copies, I'll just donate it all to charity.

This has been the case with all the weekly bundles though. The standard humble bundles have been (and should continue to be) drm free and have multiple platform options.
 
If you're not supposed to share these codes why is there an option at the bottom with "Is this a gift?" And a check for "yes send me a gift code"?
 
Why can I not control what I have purchased? Why should I not feel the same indignant feelings for Humble Bundles that I have felt for Steam's similar behavior for years now?

It still isnt that different from when there was just 1 key for the Bundle and 1 for BTA.

If people would get mad about there not being NO-DRM Games in the Bundle, I would understand it, but people get mad about that there is "1 key for all games, be it tier 1 and BTA".
 
yeah, this might be it for me as well as far as humble bundle is concerned. I mainly get bundle games to gift to friends or as extra copies for my other computer. not being able to split the games up is hilariously stupid. the one code per bundle they've done before was dumb as well. so much better to deal with something like indieroyale where you pretty much always get individual keys.

Question GAF.

I already have Worms Armageddon and Worms Crazy Golf (lol) - is it still worth getting the rest of the games?

Also how is Worms Revolution Gold + All DLC. Not so sure about Alien Breed series since I'm mostly only interested in the Worms series.


Edit: I hear from other forum I go to some people got keys, did anyone get it as well?

armageddon is easily the best worms game, the series has gone more insipid and annoying artstylewise and way more limited in scope and options since. the alien breed games get boring very quickly and superfrog is pretty bad.
 
Next year: Humble Bundle announces their own client, now required to redeem games.
Year after: Humble Bundle no longer supports Steam keys
 
so much better to deal with something like indieroyale where you pretty much always get individual keys.

But thats, I guess, is why Indieroyale is more expensive. I mean to get the tier 1 steamkeys for the humble bundles you just need to pay 1$.

Indieroyale mostly is about 4-6$.
 
But thats, I guess, is why Indieroyale is more expensive. I mean to get the tier 1 steamkeys for the humble bundles you just need to pay 1$.

Indieroyale mostly is about 4-6$.

yeah, whatever amount I have to put to get the games I want to gift from indieroyale is definitely more expensive than guaranteed 0 dollars to humble. hehe.
 
This has been the case with all the weekly bundles though. The standard humble bundles have been (and should continue to be) drm free and have multiple platform options.

Seriously? I guess I just didn't notice.. this is one of the first weekly bundles I've been interested in enough to purchase, so I guess that's why.
 
Am I the only one who actually downloads the DRM free versions?

Not at all. I love being able to grab a DRM free version for use on the wife's laptop or other random PC I'm using for a while. Of course the weekly bundles don't have DRM free versions, so that doesn't really apply for this one.
 
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