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Hurricane Irma Made Worse by Climate Change, Scientists Say

Ottaro

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ftfy

I would be laughing if I weren't already crying.
 

Beefy

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I heard that gay people and black people caused hurricanes? So if the hurricanes get worse then there must be more of each? There is no such thing as climate change

Yeah I am being sarcastic, fuck climate deniers and fuck the deniers that blame gay people etc even more.
 
So far, Irma is in 5th place for winds and isn't even in the top 10 in pressure. This goes back to 1935 to 2007.
It's not in fifth place, it's tied for 2nd, with 3 others.

But Irma is breaking other records. One of the fastest at landfall. It's also breaking records for how long it is staying at those speeds.

The OP itself says it is the most powerful storm formed in the Alantic Ocean.

What are your sources?

Ohhh... so Bloomberg doesn't provide a source, so it must be true?


Here's what I am going with.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Atlantic_hurricane_records

According to the NWS, Irma is the strongest storm ever in the Atlantic (not counting those that reached the Caribbean and Gulf of Mexico).

https://www.vox.com/science-and-hea...an-florida-keys-puerto-rico-wind-speed-record
 

Dazza

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32+ hours at 180+ mph. Previous record was Allen in 1980, with 18 hours.

Could you imagine if Irma followed the same path as Allen over even warmer waters, scary.

Another thing is it's surprising Irma's wind speeds have got this fast despite it only reaching a low of 914 millibar, if it drops lower wind speed will increase yet again
 

F34R

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It's not in fifth place, it's tied for 2nd, with 3 others.

But Irma is breaking other records. One of the fastest at landfall. It's also breaking records for how long it is staying at those speeds.







https://www.vox.com/science-and-hea...an-florida-keys-puerto-rico-wind-speed-record

Lol ok.

According to the NWS, Irma is the strongest storm ever in the Atlantic (not counting those that reached the Caribbean and Gulf of Mexico)

Basically, breaking off as much detail needed to give it a point. Anyways... it's a strong hurricane, and it's a major threat to anything in its path. Climate change may or may not have anything to do with it. There have been weaker threats, and there have been "tied" threats, and more powerful threats. This is real world, and it's going to continue like this, well, forever I'm guessing. What's the idea here? When it's a strong hurricane, climate change probably made it that way? If it's a weaker hurricane, there wasn't any climate change that week? Is it simply saying, ALL hurricanes are stronger than they would otherwise be due to climate change? /shrugs

What's the idea behind this?
 

Monocle

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I think everyone should offer a formal apology for fapping to gay porn. Not me though, I had other stuff to do last night.

This hunk lust, it's out of control.
 

Keasar

Member
I was gonna just post a thread myself after reading this:
https://www.newscientist.com/articl...epic-size-is-being-fuelled-by-global-warming/
This is a subject that needs to be talked about. Here in Sweden, Swedish National Television (SVT) news just ran with a story how the US. government is silencing the use of the word climate change and that the coverage of the topic in news is decreasing. How many of these storms is the US. gonna need to be hit with until the country admits this is a real thing? The ironic part is even how many will probably hit the south states of all places, the biggest supporters of the Republican and their climate change denying asses.

Worst of all are the Caribbean nations who will suffer the most from the US. denial.
 

GodofWine

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The GOP will somehow pitch the idea that melting all that cold water stored in the poles will fix this, and increase coal usage.
 

dolabla

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The OP itself says it is the most powerful storm formed in the Alantic Ocean

In recorded history at least.

I remember around when Hurricane Ivan and all those other major hurricanes were pounding the US/forming around 2004/2005, they were saying things were only gonna get worse over the next few years. Then nothing really happened.

It's past due though and this season looks like it's heating back up.
 
How do I know Hurricane Irma is even real and not a hoax by the left?

Given how:

a) this is an actual conspiracy theory being toted by pundits

b) Trump obviously does not understand that this isn't just some rain

I would fully believe that Trump thinks it is.
 

j-wood

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Instead of religious leaders saying dumb shit like these natural disasters are because we allow gay people to get married now, someone should maybe start saying it's God's punishing humans because they aren't taking care of the earth. Maybe that will get through to them.
 
Basically, breaking off as much detail needed to give it a point. Anyways... it's a strong hurricane, and it's a major threat to anything in its path. Climate change may or may not have anything to do with it. There have been weaker threats, and there have been "tied" threats, and more powerful threats. This is real world, and it's going to continue like this, well, forever I'm guessing. What's the idea here? When it's a strong hurricane, climate change probably made it that way? If it's a weaker hurricane, there wasn't any climate change that week? Is it simply saying, ALL hurricanes are stronger than they would otherwise be due to climate change? /shrugs

What's the idea behind this?

You're looking at the small picture. Climate change means the risk of us having worse and worse record breaking storms continuing to go up. We will still see weak hurricanes, but we're going to see stronger, more catastrophic ones more regularly.

Someone else put it in another thread like this, 1000 year storms become 1 in a 100 year storms. 1 in 100 become one in 10, etc. Warmer oceans means when a hurricane happens, it will likely be worse as there is more energy for the storms to pull from.

This phenomenon also holds true for other natural disasters. As the climate changes, the more this shit becomes the new normal to compensate for these changes. When bigger disasters become more normalized, we'll see even bigger outliers that were impossible in previous condItions. It just so happens that a hotter earth doesn't gel as well for current living organisms that are used to the old normal. Most living things need more time to adapt. Welcome to the first steps of an Earth with new management.
 
Didn't Harvey broke the rain level? And was unprecedented.

Now we have another record breaker?

Yeah this is all coincidence or god's will or something. God works in mysterious ways usually but right now he just wants to fuck up Houston and Florida.
 
And yet these states will continue voting Republican despite the consequences of climate change being directly apparent for them.
 
I was gonna just post a thread myself after reading this:
https://www.newscientist.com/articl...epic-size-is-being-fuelled-by-global-warming/
This is a subject that needs to be talked about. Here in Sweden, Swedish National Television (SVT) news just ran with a story how the US. government is silencing the use of the word climate change and that the coverage of the topic in news is decreasing. How many of these storms is the US. gonna need to be hit with until the country admits this is a real thing? The ironic part is even how many will probably hit the south states of all places, the biggest supporters of the Republican and their climate change denying asses.

Worst of all are the Caribbean nations who will suffer the most from the US. denial.

What are they doing? But Climate Change is talked about all the time on the news, I dont know what channels SVT is watching, even anyone going to CBS instantly sees climate change articles https://www.cbsnews.com/climate-change/ recent.

Also, I dont understand your "how many of these storms is the US Gonna need to be hit" when we just ended the 4,323-day (142-month, 12-year) major hurricane drought, which makes this whole, "irma is a result of climate change" argument pretty odd, when where was the category 4 or 5 hurricane in the years with the most record temperatures recorded? Is climate change not to blame for the absence of those types of storms reaching our shores? Its not like America has never been hit with a major hurricane ever.
 
What are they doing? But Climate Change is talked about all the time on the news, I dont know what channels SVT is watching, even anyone going to CBS instantly sees climate change articles https://www.cbsnews.com/climate-change/ recent.

Also, I dont understand your "how many of these storms is the US Gonna need to be hit" when we just ended the 4,323-day (142-month, 12-year) major hurricane drought, which makes this whole, "irma is a result of climate change" argument pretty odd, when where was the category 4 or 5 hurricane in the years with the most record temperatures recorded? Is climate change not to blame for the absence of those types of storms reaching our shores? Its not like America has never been hit with a major hurricane ever.

They are increasing in severity (not necessarily in frequency as I understand it) they just aren't hitting the US. We've been lucky.
 
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