hehe, nah, I left my tits out of this thread just because I didn't want to come off as a total douche. And thanks everyone. I just got word I'll be heading out Thursday night or Friday morning. I'm actually really excited because I've never done anything in my whole life that could have a positive impact on a large number of people and this will at least be a deed that I can be proud of doing.DJ_Tet said:Tits?
Good luck and tit speed dude.
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Hurricane Katrina Thread: Any LA Gaffers?
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You're probably right about that. I've also seen some very tornado like paths in some photos and hurricanes can create their own tornadoes.The Chosen One said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane
Tommie Hu$tle
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ManaByte said:
There are probably more than a few nitwits that are actaully setting stuff on fire but, at the same time you have a number of gas leaks in the city that could contribute to that. PLUS if something is buring you know someone nearby is alive, that makes it much better for search and rescue teams.
themadcowtipper
Smells faintly of rancid stilton.
The Chosen One said:
That was all storm Surge 30ft and went 6 miles inland in some areas,from what I have heard from friends there so far, I 'm scared to go back Friday, my home state will be unreconizble and I hope my friends and family are okay.
themadcowtipper
Smells faintly of rancid stilton.
http://alt.ngs.noaa.gov/katrina/
hi-res satellite imagery of MS Gulf Coast...I never thought some place I have lived for 25 yrs would ever be like this, it is all gone...
hi-res satellite imagery of MS Gulf Coast...I never thought some place I have lived for 25 yrs would ever be like this, it is all gone...
Yeah, some of these interviewees still in or near the city are pissing me off. Fair warning was given, it was on them to get to safety, and many of them refused to listen or budge. And now they're angry at everyone but themselves for it. I keep hearing people saying "nobody came to save us"... why were they expecting that, what did they do to save themselves? The warning wasn't "wait for someone to come get you", it was "get the fuck out the city as soon as you can". You were expecting someone to come house-to-house and carry hundreds of thousands of people away while the storm was almost upon you? The entitlement, unrealistic expectations, and lack of personal responsibility displayed by some of these people makes me have very little pity for them.ManaByte said:
Trapped in an Arena of Suffering
Superdome Evacuation Halted Amid Gunfire
It's like Spielberg's War of the Worlds, minus the Martians.
Superdome Evacuation Halted Amid Gunfire
It's like Spielberg's War of the Worlds, minus the Martians.
themadcowtipper
Smells faintly of rancid stilton.
Shig said:
Many in New Orleans are poor and dont own cars, that is why they did not leave, MS thought the worse of the storm would hit New Orleans until it made a turn at the last minute. Alot of people survived Camille in Ms and did not think this would be as bad...
themadcowtipper
Smells faintly of rancid stilton.
Also the storm surge was devestating there were 200 year old housesin my neighborhood that survived Camille that are gone now..Phoenix said:
themadcowtipper
Smells faintly of rancid stilton.
Since it seems all the major networks want to show is the thuggery going on... here is what is happening in my home state...it chokes me up, here it is three days later and still no supplies, some place still not reached to check on survivers or the dead...
http://www.wlox.com/Global/category.asp?C=63035
http://www.wlox.com/Global/category.asp?C=63035
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/09/01/katrina.impact/index.html
the Air Base is 95% smashed or the fleet of hurricane hunter aircraft 95% smashed?
either way, that sucks.
the Air Base is 95% smashed or the fleet of hurricane hunter aircraft 95% smashed?
either way, that sucks.
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There was a local story about Wal-Mart (the home office is about 30 minutes from here) donating around 1 million to the relief efforts.
themadcowtipper
Smells faintly of rancid stilton.
Harrahs Gaming who have two Casinos(both destroyed) and 9,000 employees on the MS GulfCoast will continue to pay their employees for the next 90 days...
jobber
Would let Tony Parker sleep with his wife
Shig said:
That's the feeling I had yesterday. Saturday, hell even part of Friday, people were saying "This is NOT a drill". It's like people didn't give a fuck now they're bitching about not knowing anything. It was busses all around town taking people to the Superdome for free. Now I understand if you were sick and needed help but still, you could've called the cops or something for help to get out.
Edit: oh yeah, I wonder what happened to that guy walking the dgo that blew off Sheppard Smith
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After the December 2004 Tsunami, a buch of stations near me kept imploring people to send a "tsunami of caring" to the devestated areas. People in radio are idiots.AniHawk said:
jobber
Would let Tony Parker sleep with his wife
Phoenix
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themadcowtipper said:
Well that's not entirely true. Here is what I can tell you now from people who are trying to reach friends and loved ones (they are basically calling CNN and asking for my name). The people who stayed in the city varied - and these are just some of the stories I've heard from people who have made it out.
The people who stayed weren't all poor. Many of them did have transportation but not CAPACITY. There are a lot of people who simply didn't have enough ability to transport the sheer numbers of people in their family and simply refused to leave. There were people who didn't have anywhere to go, or had lost contact with people who were in places they thought they might be able to go. There were people who were caring for relatives and couldn't move them. There were people in so many instances and I'm hearing so much back that suggests that all of this bullshit I'm hearing about "you should have left" should just get crammed right up your asses.
Now let me make something perfectly clear to everyone within the sound of this thread so you can send this message around the world copy/pase email style:
Since the disaster I have been housing family, friends, and even a few strangers in my home. This number is likely to increase as I hear from more and more people who remember where I work and call in asking the operator to transfer to me. I have thus far hosted/relocated 20 people and have a standing population of about 13 people in my house and this weekend I'm flying down to Houston to help relocate about 10 more. I have observed a considerable amount of things in this short amount of time about the various facets of people who had already made it out of New Orleans, those who recently escaped New Orleans, and those that are just now being evacuated:
I) Shelter
The people who DID get out are in VERY bad shape. The states housing them DO NOT have shelter capacity to house them all and many people are unfortunately being turned away and are then in a position where they have to try to stay at a hotel again or live as homeless! This is very real people and I'm going to get pictures of it today so it hits home. Even the people who make it away from the tragedy that you're seeing on the news are still without homes. Please realize this - the number of homelessFederal assistance is arriving VERY VERY SLOWLY!
2) Food
People are desperately trying to file for unemployment/welfare/foodstamps in a variety of places and MANY ARE GETTING THE RUNAROUND! Hopefully I will be able to secure video of this. People who are seniors and are on social security are being told that they don't qualify for foodstamps. In addition, the federal agencies are asking people how much money they made in the month of August despite the fact that many have spent that money in the evacuation staying in hotels and such. They are using this as a basis for how much assistance they are giving people. People who don't qualify for federal are being given a "support bag" which consists of some can goods and such (pic attached). This is not enough for these people to survive on assuming they can bite through the cans since there is no can opener or milk a cow and churn butter - two ingredients required to cook some of the supplies - yet not provided to them.
3) Books, Clothing, etc
If you've got books, clothing, or just things that you are not using - please donate them today. Let me give you an idea of the reality of what these people face. Pick three outfits out of your closet and walk out of your door. Good luck on your new life because THAT IS ALL YOU HAVE! We need to get clothes, diapers, books, etc. donated to shelters immediately because these people have absolutely nothing much more than the clothes on their backs. If you have something that you aren't using - bring it to a shelter today. God bless you if you can work with others in your area including businesses and the like to help convert buildings into temporary shelters in your area. Please encourage your employers and churches to work together to get people temporary jobs, housing, books, clothes, or hell even just discounts on food and lodging for the people impacted.
4) Money
There are some serious and often not discussed issues surrounding cash. Many people are simply not getting checks and don't know when they will. Trips to the unemployment office are turning into multiple day journeys in frustration because they are being told to just go and file for it online and wait - but they have needs TODAY. Many people who are older or elderly did banking by checkbook or face to face. They don't have ATM cards and therefore don't have access to their money - even if they have some in the bank. They can't get to credit unions because many of them don't exist. This morning I sat with my mother who was crying because she couldn't pay her bills because her paycheck arrived and she doesn't know when/if she will get another one or even if she'd ever have a job again.
5) Fuel
In many cities around the country there have been gas stations that have participated in price gouging. If you have any physical evidence of this, turn it in to your attorney general so these people can be prosecuted, hopefully with jail time. Now is not the time to look to maximize profit! If you know of a gas station that has partaken in this activity (and not all have), do yourself a favor and tell your news agencies, friends, and families so that they NEVER shop at these places again. They deserve to be put out of business at the very least for being involved in a conspiracy to rob the American public.
6) Information
Without the phone network working, people don't know much of anything about their friends, family, or relatives. Many people don't have access to computers to know what is the state of the people that have survived, those that are dead, and those that are trying to evacuate the city. The number of relatives that I'm missing is increasing - daily. We can't get into New Orleans to find out what happened to people, and people in a lot of places cannot dial out to tell people where they are and what condition they are in.
Please realize how big this really is. New Orleans for all practical purposes is destroyed and there are over a million refugees in the United States that need the help of people at home and abroad. If you can help, help in any way you can. Volunteer your time, donate blood (because they really really need it - there are a lot of people who are injured and in need of blood and medicines), donate goods, donate money. This disaster is so big that I don't think people realize how big it is. Just imagine for a moment that you woke up and everything around you was destroyed. What would YOU do, and what would you want people to do for YOU. I say this not just as a concerned New Orleans native but as a concerned American who is watching in horror what is by far beyond the scale of any disaster our nation has seen including 9/11. You could have bombed the Gulf Coast region and done less damage!
Unfortunately my house, friends, and family are all booked up at capacity - actually beyond capacity so I'm now in a position where I can't really help anyone any further yet people still need help and more and more people who reach me are asking for help and I'm not about to tell this to sit on hold for several hours on the red cross hotline only to end up knowing the same information that they did before they called. Right now people still don't know what to do, what to expect from the various state and federal agencies, who to call, when to call, where to go, and what is being done to help them put their lives back together.
themadcowtipper
Smells faintly of rancid stilton.
I didn't say all the people I said many I live 30 minutes from New Orleans and the area around the SuperDome is really poor, but that is neither here or there you made really good post about what people need. I myself will be going home Friday to Gulfport Ms and will be brininging food, water, gas and tools.. I just hope my Family is still alive.Phoenix said:Well that's not entirely true. Here is what I can tell you now from people who are trying to reach friends and loved ones (they are basically calling CNN and asking for my name). The people who stayed in the city varied - and these are just some of the stories I've heard from people who have made it out.
The people who stayed weren't all poor. Many of them did have transportation but not CAPACITY. There are a lot of people who simply didn't have enough ability to transport the sheer numbers of people in their family and simply refused to leave. There were people who didn't have anywhere to go, or had lost contact with people who were in places they thought they might be able to go. There were people who were caring for relatives and couldn't move them. There were people in so many instances and I'm hearing so much back that suggests that all of this bullshit I'm hearing about "you should have left" should just get crammed right up your asses.
Now let me make something perfectly clear to everyone within the sound of this thread so you can send this message around the world copy/pase email style:
Since the disaster I have been housing family, friends, and even a few strangers in my home. This number is likely to increase as I hear from more and more people who remember where I work and call in asking the operator to transfer to me. I have thus far hosted/relocated 20 people and have a standing population of about 13 people in my house and this weekend I'm flying down to Houston to help relocate about 10 more. I have observed a considerable amount of things in this short amount of time about the various facets of people who had already made it out of New Orleans, those who recently escaped New Orleans, and those that are just now being evacuated:
I) Shelter
The people who DID get out are in VERY bad shape. The states housing them DO NOT have shelter capacity to house them all and many people are unfortunately being turned away and are then in a position where they have to try to stay at a hotel again or live as homeless! This is very real people and I'm going to get pictures of it today so it hits home. Even the people who make it away from the tragedy that you're seeing on the news are still without homes. Please realize this - the number of homelessFederal assistance is arriving VERY VERY SLOWLY!
2) Food
People are desperately trying to file for unemployment/welfare/foodstamps in a variety of places and MANY ARE GETTING THE RUNAROUND! Hopefully I will be able to secure video of this. People who are seniors and are on social security are being told that they don't qualify for foodstamps. In addition, the federal agencies are asking people how much money they made in the month of August despite the fact that many have spent that money in the evacuation staying in hotels and such. They are using this as a basis for how much assistance they are giving people. People who don't qualify for federal are being given a "support bag" which consists of some can goods and such (pic attached). This is not enough for these people to survive on assuming they can bite through the cans since there is no can opener or milk a cow and churn butter - two ingredients required to cook some of the supplies - yet not provided to them.
3) Books, Clothing, etc
If you've got books, clothing, or just things that you are not using - please donate them today. Let me give you an idea of the reality of what these people face. Pick three outfits out of your closet and walk out of your door. Good luck on your new life because THAT IS ALL YOU HAVE! We need to get clothes, diapers, books, etc. donated to shelters immediately because these people have absolutely nothing much more than the clothes on their backs. If you have something that you aren't using - bring it to a shelter today. God bless you if you can work with others in your area including businesses and the like to help convert buildings into temporary shelters in your area. Please encourage your employers and churches to work together to get people temporary jobs, housing, books, clothes, or hell even just discounts on food and lodging for the people impacted.
4) Money
There are some serious and often not discussed issues surrounding cash. Many people are simply not getting checks and don't know when they will. Trips to the unemployment office are turning into multiple day journeys in frustration because they are being told to just go and file for it online and wait - but they have needs TODAY. Many people who are older or elderly did banking by checkbook or face to face. They don't have ATM cards and therefore don't have access to their money - even if they have some in the bank. They can't get to credit unions because many of them don't exist. This morning I sat with my mother who was crying because she couldn't pay her bills because her paycheck arrived and she doesn't know when/if she will get another one or even if she'd ever have a job again.
5) Fuel
In many cities around the country there have been gas stations that have participated in price gouging. If you have any physical evidence of this, turn it in to your attorney general so these people can be prosecuted, hopefully with jail time. Now is not the time to look to maximize profit! If you know of a gas station that has partaken in this activity (and not all have), do yourself a favor and tell your news agencies, friends, and families so that they NEVER shop at these places again. They deserve to be put out of business at the very least for being involved in a conspiracy to rob the American public.
6) Information
Without the phone network working, people don't know much of anything about their friends, family, or relatives. Many people don't have access to computers to know what is the state of the people that have survived, those that are dead, and those that are trying to evacuate the city. The number of relatives that I'm missing is increasing - daily. We can't get into New Orleans to find out what happened to people, and people in a lot of places cannot dial out to tell people where they are and what condition they are in.
Please realize how big this really is. New Orleans for all practical purposes is destroyed and there are over a million refugees in the United States that need the help of people at home and abroad. If you can help, help in any way you can. Volunteer your time, donate blood (because they really really need it - there are a lot of people who are injured and in need of blood and medicines), donate goods, donate money. This disaster is so big that I don't think people realize how big it is. Just imagine for a moment that you woke up and everything around you was destroyed. What would YOU do, and what would you want people to do for YOU. I say this not just as a concerned New Orleans native but as a concerned American who is watching in horror what is by far beyond the scale of any disaster our nation has seen including 9/11. You could have bombed the Gulf Coast region and done less damage!
Unfortunately my house, friends, and family are all booked up at capacity - actually beyond capacity so I'm now in a position where I can't really help anyone any further yet people still need help and more and more people who reach me are asking for help and I'm not about to tell this to sit on hold for several hours on the red cross hotline only to end up knowing the same information that they did before they called. Right now people still don't know what to do, what to expect from the various state and federal agencies, who to call, when to call, where to go, and what is being done to help them put their lives back together.
Phoenix
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themadcowtipper said:
Sorry TMCT, that wasn't addressed to you - just the general sentament that these people should have all been able to get out.
I have an Aunt who was taking of my cousin at a hospital who had suffered from an annurism. While the patients were evacuated, my aunt was not and the last contact with her was during the hurricane by another aunt who said that the was hiding in a closet. Her condition at this point is unknown and we can't even get in to find out...
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/09/01/katrina.impact/index.html
Incredible... boat rescue operations suspended.... police officers siphoning gas, no communications, no food, they are on their own....
Incredible... boat rescue operations suspended.... police officers siphoning gas, no communications, no food, they are on their own....
Phoenix
Member
DarienA said:
POlice officers are in a terrible situation from all accounts I hear. They are without gasoline and have to acquire it however they can. The communications system they use is largely destroyed. A highschool friend of mine whose father is a/the sheriff across the river in Jefferson Parish is still there trying to keep order with the officers there. He reports that they have to travel in groups since they cannot call for backup, and they too have needs for food and water.
Tommie Hu$tle
Member
Phoenix said:
Even at some point the police are going to have to leave. I mean they just can't support themselves and when they leave...
themadcowtipper
Smells faintly of rancid stilton.
Video footage of Waveland, Bay St. Louis and Pass Christian, some of the hardest hit areas on the GulfCoast
http://www.wlbt.com/
http://www.wlbt.com/
Smiles and Cries
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themadcowtipper said:
that was major
Tommie Hu$tle
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Gunmen target medical convoy
Welcome to your handbasket.
I never thought I'd be in IRAQ looking at America saying man I'm GLAD I'm in Iraq. We are over here in pure shock at the insanity of that. With most of us having been shot at at least once. Dude, there is a reason you don't want the miltiary unlesahed on the civilian population...or maybe there isn't reading that.
Welcome to your handbasket.
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I never thought I'd be in IRAQ looking at America saying man I'm GLAD I'm in Iraq. We are over here in pure shock at the insanity of that. With most of us having been shot at at least once. Dude, there is a reason you don't want the miltiary unlesahed on the civilian population...or maybe there isn't reading that.
dskillzhtown
keep your strippers out of my American football
It is time for the gloves to come off with these jackballs shooting.
Smiles and Cries
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this is like an endless nightmare I live all the way up in the north east now but last year I was
3 hours away from N.O.
can you imagine living in that city or those towns like Waveland?
3 hours away from N.O.
can you imagine living in that city or those towns like Waveland?
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