I believe in Phil Spencer

AmyS said:
Bring back J.

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How do you zip up a jacket without starting from the bottom?
 
cakely said:
Phil Spencer is very-well paid executive at Microsoft that does Public Relations as part of his job description.

He's not your friend, and unless you're on the board of directors of large technology company, he's not your peer, either.

I suspect "I believe in Phil Spencer" gets more than its share of ironic usage around here, but it still makes me cringe when I read it.
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He comes across as a nice guy in his interviews and I can't say i'd dismiss him as a "gamer" or whatever just because he is a well paid MS employee.

Who even says they see him as a peer or as their friend?
 
LNBL said:
He comes across as a nice guy in his interviews and I can't say i'd dismiss him as a "gamer" or whatever just because he is a well paid MS employee.

Who even says they see him as a peer or as their friend?
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Plus, what other person in his position is accessible? He's always on twitter and is part of the community.
 
Hawk269 said:
I would say if you compare what they were trying to do under the other guy and what has happened since Phil took over, you would have to at least acknowledge that things have gotten substantially better on the platform. Yes, there is still a ton of work to do, but you have to be ignorant not to see that things have gone from being really bad to pretty good now.
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By the platform you mean windows right because there's less reason to buy an actual xbox than ever. I just upgraded to a new pc, what incentive is there to add an Xbox to the mix? I usually buy all consoles
 
gamz said:
Plus, what other person in his position is accessible? He's always on twitter and is part of the community.
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That's a fair point actually. He does make effort beyond any other 'console head' to converse with the community. Plus he's made a lot of the Xbox feedback stuff happen, so he definitely listens.

You don't see Reggie or Andrew House taking time out to do that.
 
I believe Phil Spencer exists but I don't believe in Phil Spencer the Straight Shooting Regular Guy who is the Gamers' Friend; he's a senior executive at a multibillion dollar company who has no compunction against parroting whatever weasel word talking points he gets from his PR team.
 
qirex said:
I believe Phil Spencer exists but I don't believe in Phil Spencer the Straight Shooting Regular Guy who is the Gamers' Friend; he's a senior executive at a multibillion dollar company who has no compunction against parroting whatever weasel word talking points he gets from his PR team.
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Sure, they all are. The difference is Phil is down in the trenches with us. Is it bullshit? I don't know. Everything he's done and how he's always reaching out to the fanbase is encouraging. At least he's showing he gives a shit and gives us consumers the time and day. I can't say that for the rest of them.
 
On the one hand, since Spencer took over Microsoft has done some noticeably positive things for the console and its fans. On the other hand, the Xbox division has been forced to do some drastic things or else their struggling Xbox One numbers would have been significantly worse.

I want to give the guy the benefit of the doubt, but given the circumstances I have to temper my praise. If the Xbox gets another console and the vision isn't out of Spencer's control, then we can see what he's all about.

Still, things would probably be much worse without him.
 
gamz said:
Sure, they all are. The difference is Phil is down in the trenches with us. Is it bullshit? I don't know. Everything he's done and how he's always reaching out to the fanbase is encouraging. At least he's showing he gives a shit and gives us consumers the time and day. I can't say that for the rest of them.
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Do you work for MS or something? The amount of MS praise coming from your posts lately has been cringe/groan inducing.

Down in the trenches....REALLY?
 
gamz said:
Sure, they all are. The difference is Phil is down in the trenches with us. Is it bullshit? I don't know. Everything he's done and how he's always reaching out to the fanbase is encouraging. At least he's showing he gives a shit and gives us consumers the time and day. I can't say that for the rest of them.
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The trenches? With you? So you think you're both soldiers in some sort of war?

Let's keep this in perspective: Phil is an executive at a company that manufactures a popular toy, and hey, you and millions of others really like that toy.
 
Ol No Bones said:
I had a dream that Phil was my dad. One day I came home with a bad report card and I could see a hint disappointment on his face. He didn't scold me. He didn't let me see his deep swelling anger. He knew the subtle change in his countenance was enough. I just wanted.. I needed him to be proud. So I worked hard, I applied myself and I went from a C student to a B. As I walked home clutching my new report card to my chest I imagined the look on his face as he saw my achievement. I dreamt that he would hug me and say, "well done son, I always knew you would do it". I walked into my house and with nervous excitement approached fathers door. What would he say I thought? I almost walked right in out of excitement but remembered that dads office was off limits without permission. I knocked softly 3 times as to not annoy him too much with my interruption. Dad in his normal kind but serious tone said, "You may come in." I had very rarely been allowed access to the office so I always took a moment To marvel at the ever expanding library father had accumulated. The office had no windows and was lit exclusively by candles which was slightly unnerving in a room of wood floors filled with books. Even though he had not looked up to see who approached and even though I had not said a word he knew who entered. He said, "come in son. I assume you have a pressing matter I must attend to?" I saw him seated at a desk of mahogany with little care to even look at me. I sat in front of the desk and slid my report card in front of him. His gaze moved slightly, only enough that His eyes slightly lit up. I looked a little closer to see that his cheeks were glowing in the candlelight and his dimples looked like deep ominous shadowy caves. He did not say anything but looked up. I had never seen him like this. He had no expression. Not pride, not disappointment. Nothing. I longed that he had communicated something but nothing.. It was a hollow expression devoid of any emotion. He did not say a word. I began crying uncontrollably and fumbled to grab the report card as I stumbled out of the room without any dignity or grace.

The next day father was standing in the doorway to my room as I awoke. He was watching me while I slept. I was surprised to see him there but oddly comforted. He without any sound in his movement approached me and sat at the side of my bed clutching some old worn down pictures. He showed me pictures of a man in uniform who looked just like me. He explained that this was his father. The resemblance was striking. He explained that his father climbed pointe du hoc in the Second World War and if I was going to going to get his approval it was gonna take more than a ruddy B average grade. He said that the Spencer's are a proud family with a distinguished history and my efforts were laughable at best.

I learned an important lesson lesson that day I think.
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That... was beautiful.
 
aristotle said:
Do you work for MS or something? The amount of MS praise coming from your posts lately has been cringe/groan inducing.

Down in the trenches....REALLY?
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What other video game exec is as easily as accessible (Xbox, PlayStation, Nintendo) as Spencer? I'll wait...
 
Do I believe in Phil Spencer?

Sure.

He has been very nice, thoughtful, and appeared genuine in the times I've gotten to meet & talk to him, which is more than I can say for any number of other people I've interacted with both professionally and personally over the years.

Ultimately I don't think it really matters, I don't expect very much from someone I don't really know, and who absolutely doesn't know (rightfully so) who I am.

I like the changes I've seen since he's taken over, and I enjoy my Xbox One and the new features coming down the pipeline.

To be fair, everyone else I've spent time with in the Xbox division has been equally enthusiastic and friendly (Mike Ybarra, Mike Lavin, Aaron Greenberg). Even (the much maligned) Yusuf Mehdi took some time out to be personable. Major Nelson has been fine, but to me has always seemed too busy, always going from one thing to the next to really get a read on him as a person.

I'm sure their counterparts at the other companies are the same, I just don't have any personal experience with them.
 
cakely said:
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The trenches? With you? So you think you're both soldiers in some sort of war?

Let's keep this in perspective: Phil is an executive at a company that manufactures a popular toy, and hey, you and millions of others really like that toy.
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Some people really need to step back from time to time and remember that this shit really is a toy
 
aristotle said:
Do you work for MS or something? The amount of MS praise coming from your posts lately has been cringe/groan inducing.

Down in the trenches....REALLY?
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Praise or keeping people in check from speaking usual anti ms bullshit which has been going on a regular basis. There's more than enough reason to see things positively so don't be do suprised.


AncientDiety said:
Shu easily. Being on twitter really doesn't mean anything, if anything he should prob refrain from tweeting to guys like timdog, Crapgamer.
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Isn't Shu quite low in Sony compared to Phil with Xbox? Reason why people get excited with Phil is that he can make things happen (and has done), having dialogue with someone with that level of resource is why people get a little nuts when he mentions things.
 
cakely said:
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The trenches? With you? So you think you're both soldiers in some sort of war?

Let's keep this in perspective: Phil is an executive at a company that manufactures a popular toy, and hey, you and millions of others really like that toy.
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When I say trenches I mean on a consumer level. He spends tons of times interacting with the user community. He listens and makes changes per the feedback.
 
gamz said:
What other video game exec is as easily as accessible (Xbox, PlayStation, Nintendo) as Spencer? I'll wait...
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Hmm...Off the top of my head, Shu and Adam Boyes for sure. I don't care about Nintendo games so I don't follow anything they do. Also Shu is a head guy at Sony. And Boyes is what keeps the indie game developers flocking to the Sony brand.

As for MS, we've seen more people come to GAF and quit posting than any other of the big 3 as well (Nelson, Panello). So there is a reverse to it as well.

Jumeira said:
Praise or keeping people in check from speaking usual anti ms bullshit which has been going on a regular basis. There's more than enough reason to see things positively so don't be do suprised.
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Being optimistic is one thing. Making posts akin to astroturfing a gaming company is another. I mean seriously, have you read his posts? He's down in the trenches with us!
 
Sarobi said:
Some people really need to step back from time to time and remember that this shit really is a toy
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What's the cut-off point? Showing up in threads for consoles that you're not interested in? Spending a great deal of time on a message board in general? Or going full Wollan or S.Sage? Only asking because some of the finger pointing is a bit delicious 😊
 
jaypah said:
What's the cut-off point? Showing up in threads for consoles that you're not interested in? Spending a great deal of time on a message board in general? Or going full Wollan or S.Sage? Only asking because some of the finger pointing is a bit delicious 😊
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Hahaha, I love this post.
 
jaypah said:
What's the cut-off point? Showing up in threads for consoles that you're not interested in? Spending a great deal of time on a message board in general? Or going full Wollan or S.Sage? Only asking because some of the finger pointing is a bit delicious 😊
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All of the above.
 
Deadstar said:
How do you zip up a jacket without starting from the bottom?
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lol, double zippers dude.

can't believe what a huge misstep it was putting Mattrick in charge - MS deserves every ounce of pain they've endured for that ridiculously stupid decision.

Allard was something special, always felt like a gamer to me - hence why I appreciate Spencer so much.
 
I would rather buy a Phil Spenser then a Xbox One.


Dude gets it though. He was put in charge of a crashing plane and he has done admirable in the few years he has had. Also for a guy who was in charge of MS first party studios when they went balls deep on Kinect and nothing much else its real impressive how he turned himself around.
 
SpinningBirdKick said:
Even Phil Spencer doesn't believe what Phil Spencer says to tow the company line.
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This is the sad truth.
Jumeira said:
Isn't Shu quite low in Sony compared to Phil with Xbox? Reason why people get excited with Phil is that he can make things happen (and has done), having dialogue with someone with that level of resource is why people get a little nuts when he mentions things.
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I think Shu is in Phil's old position before he was promoted to Xbox head. I think the equivalent to Phil is Andrew House. He can't make funny faces like Shu though so they just keep him in the back.
 
Ol No Bones said:
I had a dream that Phil was my dad. One day I came home with a bad report card and I could see a hint disappointment on his face. He didn't scold me. He didn't let me see his deep swelling anger. He knew the subtle change in his countenance was enough. I just wanted.. I needed him to be proud. So I worked hard, I applied myself and I went from a C student to a B. As I walked home clutching my new report card to my chest I imagined the look on his face as he saw my achievement. I dreamt that he would hug me and say, "well done son, I always knew you would do it". I walked into my house and with nervous excitement approached fathers door. What would he say I thought? I almost walked right in out of excitement but remembered that dads office was off limits without permission. I knocked softly 3 times as to not annoy him too much with my interruption. Dad in his normal kind but serious tone said, "You may come in." I had very rarely been allowed access to the office so I always took a moment To marvel at the ever expanding library father had accumulated. The office had no windows and was lit exclusively by candles which was slightly unnerving in a room of wood floors filled with books. Even though he had not looked up to see who approached and even though I had not said a word he knew who entered. He said, "come in son. I assume you have a pressing matter I must attend to?" I saw him seated at a desk of mahogany with little care to even look at me. I sat in front of the desk and slid my report card in front of him. His gaze moved slightly, only enough that His eyes slightly lit up. I looked a little closer to see that his cheeks were glowing in the candlelight and his dimples looked like deep ominous shadowy caves. He did not say anything but looked up. I had never seen him like this. He had no expression. Not pride, not disappointment. Nothing. I longed that he had communicated something but nothing.. It was a hollow expression devoid of any emotion. He did not say a word. I began crying uncontrollably and fumbled to grab the report card as I stumbled out of the room without any dignity or grace.

The next day father was standing in the doorway to my room as I awoke. He was watching me while I slept. I was surprised to see him there but oddly comforted. He without any sound in his movement approached me and sat at the side of my bed clutching some old worn down pictures. He showed me pictures of a man in uniform who looked just like me. He explained that this was his father. The resemblance was striking. He explained that his father climbed pointe du hoc in the Second World War and if I was going to going to get his approval it was gonna take more than a ruddy B average grade. He said that the Spencer's are a proud family with a distinguished history and my efforts were laughable at best.

I learned an important lesson lesson that day I think.
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We have Phil Spencer fan fiction now? Welp. I'm out.
 
There is absolutely no need to "believe" in a corporate executive. That being said he's done a pretty good job of getting Xbox back on track. He's done all he can after all of Don Mattrick's disastrous decisions.

Facism said:
He's just a regular guy like you and I
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Hmm.....
 
madmackem said:
They might had if they weren't force feed Kinect development and fable franchise milking, which like rare had to come from above. I doubt their first choice was Kinect demo a shitty Kinect fable spin off and a shit arcade coop game.
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Probably the head of MS studios had something to do with that, yeah.

Who could have been...?
 
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