I called in a party to the RA, police showed up

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That's a good point, gosox333. OP (if he ever returns) please for the love of God don't tell me that it's spring break on campus and you, likely one of the very few people on campus, decided to call the RA at 2 in the morning on a holiday weekend on these kids... Dude. You're killing me if that's the case. They probably thought everyone was home. You really should have confronted them personally if that's the case.

Not that I don't agree that being reasonable and accommodating, even if other people are jerks, but do you honestly think that telling a bunch of people who are drinking to turn down their music is likely to have any effect? In a dorm situation of course you tell the RA, it's what they sign up for and they actually have some measure of authority and chance of tamping things down (whether or not they should call the cops is of course another matter and at least at most colleges I've been to put to their discretion, although that might be changing depending on how bad the alcohol problems are at the schools.) All he would have accomplished going over there is getting a door shut in his face, and if the cops came later they'd guess he called them and give him more crap.

At the end of the day in a dorm situation it's the responsibility of the people making the noise to consider how it's affecting others, not waiting for other people to come to them. You know you're blasting music. Who cares if the person complaining is studying for a test, just want to read in peace or pursue their hobbies? They aren't bothering anyone doing that, which can't be said for loud partying.
 
Damn OP... you're a dick. Just knock on their door and be like "Bros, could you turn it down? I have an exam tomorrow and I need some sleep." They'd be all like "Word dude, want a beer?" And you would have made some friends.

Dick
 
Damn OP... you're a dick. Just knock on their door and be like "Bros, could you turn it down? I have manga to read tomorrow and I need some sleep." They'd be all like "Word dude, want a beer?" And you would have made some friends.

Dick

Fixed.
 
i didn't realize people like you actually exist, always just thought it was a joke

also, it's spring break at my school right now, i really hope that isn't the case at your school, b/c if so....smh

i mean, smh regardless, but double smh if so

Or they could be respectful if they're going to break the law instead of keeping the neighbor up with their bullshit at 2 AM

You did the right thing, OP.
 
Not because you are morally obligated to do either, but because, when in doubt, err on the side of being understanding, reasonable and accommodating.

The same exact thing could be said for the party people, only they actually do have an obligation to keep the noise down. Why shouldn't it be on them to be understanding, reasonable and accomodating?

The OP's roommate did bang on the wall before the OP went to the RA. That's like the international sign of "hey dude's keep it down!". Not nearly as polite as a door-knock, sure, but it's a warning nonetheless. Plus if they didn't open the door for the RA, why would they open the door for the OP?
 
The same exact thing could be said for the party people, only they actually do have an obligation to keep the noise down. Why shouldn't it be on them to be understanding, reasonable and accomodating?

The OP's roommate did bang on the wall before the OP went to the RA. That's like the international sign of "hey dude's keep it down!". Not nearly as polite as a door-knock, sure, but it's a warning nonetheless. Plus if they didn't open the door for the RA, why would they open the door for the OP?


let's all agree that everyone was passive aggressive in this whole story.
 
The same exact thing could be said for the party people, only they actually do have an obligation to keep the noise down. Why shouldn't it be on them to be understanding, reasonable and accomodating?

The OP's roommate did bang on the wall before the OP went to the RA. That's like the international sign of "hey dude's keep it down!". Not nearly as polite as a door-knock, sure, but it's a warning nonetheless. Plus if they didn't open the door for the RA, why would they open the door for the OP?

I'll bite.

They were accommodating by having it on Saturday. Not Monday-Thursday. That's pretty reasonable.

If it was noisy maybe they didn't hear the wall bang. Which, IMO is a childish way to say keep it down. Knock on the door and ask politely.

They didn't open the door for the RA because the RA has power. The OP doesn't.
 
The same exact thing could be said for the party people, only they actually do have an obligation to keep the noise down. Why shouldn't it be on them to be understanding, reasonable and accomodating?

The OP's roommate did bang on the wall before the OP went to the RA. That's like the international sign of "hey dude's keep it down!". Not nearly as polite as a door-knock, sure, but it's a warning nonetheless. Plus if they didn't open the door for the RA, why would they open the door for the OP?

Because OP can't write them up?

Come on, do you all not party in college? I can't imagine how shitty that must be.
 
The same exact thing could be said for the party people, only they actually do have an obligation to keep the noise down. Why shouldn't it be on them to be understanding, reasonable and accomodating?

You're right. I wasn't saying the onus for being responsible, understanding and accommodating fell solely on the OP. I think everyone should make that effort. If so we'd all get along a whole hell of a lot better. But just because they were being disrespectful (arguably) doesn't mean he can't be the calm, respectful, understanding "bigger" person.

The OP's roommate did bang on the wall before the OP went to the RA. That's like the international sign of "hey dude's keep it down!". Not nearly as polite as a door-knock, sure, but it's a warning nonetheless. Plus if they didn't open the door for the RA, why would they open the door for the OP?

Because it was an RA? Have you ever lived in a dorm?
And they might not have heard the banging on the wall.
 
I think it's a dick move, but something else must've happened or the RAs to call the Police. At least in my University, the RAs will knock and you quiet down. Only reason police would be involved would be if there was violence involved or if after 2 warnings they didn't do shut up.
 
You're right. I wasn't saying the onus for being responsible, understanding and accommodating fell solely on the OP. I think everyone should make that effort. If so we'd all get along a whole hell of a lot better. But just because they were being disrespectful (arguably) doesn't mean he can't be the calm, respectful, understanding "bigger" person.

Fair enough. But I can't really blame the OP. Being the bigger person doesn't accomplish much at all if the other parties don't rise up to your level. You just end up getting extremely frustrated as they keep on annoying you since they know you'll "let it slide"....since you're the bigger person and all.
 
It all makes sense that the OP would read manga. Look at his username for crying out loud.

OP was probably jelly, because he's an introverted little turtle hiding in his shell, and since there were people having fun and partying, he got jealous and called the cops.

LMAO. Yeah, you go ahead and dig that hole for yourself.

I'll bite.

They were accommodating by having it on Saturday. Not Monday-Thursday. That's pretty reasonable.

If it was noisy maybe they didn't hear the wall bang. Which, IMO is a childish way to say keep it down. Knock on the door and ask politely.

They didn't open the door for the RA because the RA has power. The OP doesn't.

Yeah no. It doesn't matter what day of the week. It's childish to think you have a free pass just because it's the weekend.
 
I don't think OP gave a shit about them drinking. More that they were being obnoxious and keeping him awake. Let's not pretend it was just because they were drinking.
Let's not pretend it wasn't SAINT PADDY'S WEEKEND, where normal people normally celebrate by drinking with music past "normal" hours.

I hope OP was pinched, but grinches are naturally green.
 
I'm legitimately curious as to what time some of you guys go to bed. As a college student who very rarely goes to parties, I haven't slept before three A.M in about a year.
 
If you're willing to break the rules in place you should be aware of the consequences.

You did nothing wrong TS.
 
You want to talk about ethics, how about we start with informing the immediate tenants around the dorm that there will be a party going on. There's nothing unethical about going to an RA. What's the ethical argument for hosting an alcoholic party late at night in a no-alcohol zone?

I follow the maxim "two wrongs don't make a right". Therefore, the question of whether the party itself was ethical is mostly irrelevant to me. What matters are my actions and their consequences. If I had any reason to believe that this party was posing a significant danger to someone or if loud parties were a long-standing problem in this dorm, and that punishment was necessary to avoid it happening again, that would be a different story.
 
I think I can probably tell who all in this thread had their college paid for by someone else just by their response to the OP.
Fuck this.

I worked to go to college. I deserved to party and enjoy myself.

From this quote I can probably tell who does the same thing Op does. Tattling on parties.

On the weekend.

During spring break.

Don't worry guys, you'll surely have many quiet nights alone with that attitude.
 
I mean the noise of neighbours is easily the most annoying thing in the world but jesus on a weekend and you had nothing to do the next day. I would have let them enjoy fucking life. I mean just the thought of potentially robbing two people of a chance to hook up. smh
 
Fuck this.

I worked to go to college. I deserved to party and enjoy myself.

From this quote I can probably tell who does the same thing Op does. Tattling on parties.

On the weekend.

During spring break.

Don't worry guys, you'll surely have many quiet nights alone with that attitude.

You can party as much as you want, just don't disrupt other people's peace and privacy.
 
I don't know, I like my sleep and quiet. I don't like my personal space invaded by any means. If that means I'm a shut-in, then so be it. Although I fail to see how.
 
If they weren't doing something fun, or if the OP had shown the COMMON COURTESY to knock and ask them to turn it down first, the OP would be blameless

But they were doing something fun, so the OP and everyone siding with him is a virgin shut-in asshole dick

is what seems to be the breakdown
 
LMAO. Yeah, you go ahead and dig that hole for yourself.



Yeah no. It doesn't matter what day of the week. It's childish to think you have a free pass just because it's the weekend.

If that's considered childish from your perspective I fear for your other outlooks on social life.
 
You didn't read the context of that conversation did you? And that isn't an ethical argument. I'm not saying 'no fun allowed', I'm saying 'be prepared for shit if you're having a loud alcoholic party at 2AM in a college dorm'. Or are you saying that fun overrides all of that? I'm not against dorm parties, but be prepared for the consequences if you have stuff that isn't allowed there and don't expect others to just shoulder the burden if you get loud. I don't think that's a particularly hard concept to embrace.

You mean 'party' right? Describing a college party as a 'loud alcoholic party' pretty much means that you were going to be on the outside looking in anyway.
 
If they weren't doing something fun, or if the OP had shown the COMMON COURTESY to knock and ask them to turn it down first, the OP would be blameless

But they were doing something fun, so the OP and everyone siding with him is a virgin shut-in asshole dick

is what seems to be the breakdown

So the burden of courtesy is on the OP and not the loud neighbors at 2am. I see.
 
It all makes sense that the OP would read manga. Look at his username for crying out loud.

OP was probably jelly, because he's an introverted little turtle hiding in his shell, and since there were people having fun and partying, he got jealous and called the cops.

OP is a shoo-in for player hater of the year.

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Let's not pretend it wasn't SAINT PADDY'S WEEKEND, where normal people normally celebrate by drinking with music past "normal" hours.

I hope OP was pinched, but grinches are naturally green.

Who gives a damn if it was St. Patrick's Day? He was trying to sleep and couldn't because the other people were being inconsiderate assholes.
 
Who gives a damn if it was St. Patrick's Day? He was trying to sleep and couldn't because the other people were being inconsiderate assholes.

No real need to use loaded language. They were just partying. They were a little loud, which happens. We've all been there. RAs just had an uneven response.
 
I think everyone was a dick in this situation.

The OP for telling the RAs about the party because he wanted to read his manga in the morning.

The host of the party should have told the students in the dorm if the party get's too loud then the students should let the host know, so he can keep it down instead of telling the RA and getting everyone in trouble.

The RAs for calling the cops on the students instead of just telling them to keep the noise down.
 
No real need to use loaded language. They were just partying. They were a little loud, which happens. We've all been there. RAs just had an uneven response.

Exactly. Cops showing up isn't on OP. If the party was being overly loud during the university's "Quiet Hour" then OP was well within their rights to contact the RA.
 
Insane behavior on the part of the OP from my perspective. Parties should be completely expected in a dorm at 2 a.m. on the weekend, during spring break, and with St. Patrick's Day. Everyone in that dorm got screwed having the OP as their dorm mate.

If you're between 18 and 22, you can deal just fine with a little bit less sleep. You should be out there partying. Maybe not getting shit faced drunk, but socializing and meeting people. That's a big part of the college experience and you are most likely going to regret not partaking in it.

Once you're in your 30s with a spouse and kids and need to wake up at 6 a.m. to go to a job you probably don't much like, then you call people in for noise. But in college? In a dorm? On a weekend? Come on, now.

Exactly. Cops showing up isn't on OP. If the party was being overly loud during the university's "Quiet Hour" then OP was well within their rights to contact the RA.

Sure it is. He may not have called them directly, but his actions caused them to show up. He could have handled the situation in any other number of ways, but he wanted the noise to stop without directly involving himself. Anything that happens after "telling on them" is a result of his actions even if he isn't directly responsible.
 
Yeah, the argument was to confront the people being loud like an adult then escalate the situation if needed.

Because if there's one thing this thread has taught me it's that a large group of inconsiderate college dorm partiers will listen to an introverted guy's request with empathy and understanding and they definitely won't call him a shut-in loser nerd or retaliate in any way.
 
Damn OP... you're a dick. Just knock on their door and be like "Bros, could you turn it down? I have an exam tomorrow and I need some sleep." They'd be all like "Word dude, want a beer?" And you would have made some friends.

Dick

But.... They are BREAKING THE LAW!!

/sarcasm
 
This thread is hilarious. I'm not going to comment much on the issue, cause I don't know how loud "loud" is. Though I have to say they are pretty dumb to have a party in the dorms. Even in my freshmen dorm where the RA's were pretty relaxed about this stuff, people who were drinking in their rooms tended to be quiet, or quiet as a drunk person could be. If they were going to party they always went elsewhere.
 
OP wasn't wrong but it was a Saturday. I'd just let it go.

Or I would put on my fedora and matching slippers, march over there and give them a stern whatfor about proper manga reading etiquette.
 
How on earth did this get a 16 page thread..
Why God Why? It's like the Hatfields and McCoys up in here

I'm sure if there's one thing to be agreed upon, it's that the other side is full of jerks and they should just shut up and let our side live our lives how we want to, any detriments to the other side be damned.
 
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