Hey man, it's cool, you better know I'll be over for a beer though.
This 100 times over. I worked with all of these people and wanted to punch them in the face.
I called in a party to the RA, police showed up
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Hey man, it's cool, you better know I'll be over for a beer though.
This 100 times over. I worked with all of these people and wanted to punch them in the face.
No, that's not always it.
I'm surprised there is even this much of a debate on the matter. A RA getting involved if you're still having a crazy party at 2am is just an inherent risk in a dorm setting, which those guys should have been painfully aware of (with that said, there have been students at my college that were willing to jump across balconies to get away from RAs, and one actually didn't make the jump). And the police getting involved... well, that's not the OP's responsibility at that point..
I mean, it sucks to get a party cut short and I have definitely been in that boat more than once in undergrad, but realistically, the only way to significantly minimize shit like this is to stay in an apartment, upper-class housing, or a house. If you are in a dorm and your RA isn't cool, then you have to party at your own risk.
I mean, it sucks to get a party cut short and I have definitely been in that boat more than once in undergrad, but realistically, the only way to significantly minimize shit like this is to stay in an apartment, upper-class housing, or a house. If you are in a dorm and your RA isn't cool, then you have to party at your own risk.
CarpeDeezNutz
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Go on.
Mango Positive
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You poor thing! Just breaks my heart for you.
:lol :lol :lol
Yep, everyone who partied past 1am got straight Fs and was on their ass by sophomore spring. Totally. It is definitely impossible to be well-adjusted socially and also intelligent, you're right.
Joke post?
We play by the same set of rules. Talking to people about their excessive loudness is not an obligation.
If you break rules, then you must expect consequences whether those come to fruition or not.
oh good
Pops Maellard
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Not that I'm 15 pages late or anything, but this isn't always how it goes down. Two days ago my hall's RA literally screamed at some people talking in the hallway after quiet hours (10 PM), and just a few weeks ago we lost our common room because we were too noisy playing Titanfall on a Friday night.
The RA's reaction is entirely contingent upon why the person became an RA in the first place. A few of the RA's in our building are cool, and the rest of them are on a power trip. I've overheard them openly discussing how they hope to bust someone drinking or smoking on a Friday night on more than one occasion. I even had one RA stop by my room in the middle of the afternoon while I was playing Hotline Miami to tell me to stop swearing.
TL;DR, Not all RA's are great human beings just looking for some reasonable compromises.
HOMEBOY OVER HERE
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Firstly, I don't think OP meant for 4 RAs to show up and then the cops. He states that he simply just told the RA I'm guessing he was closest to that the noise was disturbing him.
I'm not sure what you pictured happening telling on them to the RA opening post but you probably should of just let it slide this time. It's St. Patty's. You're in college. Kids are gonna wanna party and have fun on this night dude. Really was not necessary getting bent out of shape and insisting on exercising your boundaries on a night usually meant for partying. If they're usually good throughout the semester why break up their fun?
I don't blame you for necessarily talking to the RA to deal with it since you may not know the partying students. It wouldn't have been that bad perhaps catching one in the hallway and asking if he could relay the message to keep it down a bit though.
I'm not sure what you pictured happening telling on them to the RA opening post but you probably should of just let it slide this time. It's St. Patty's. You're in college. Kids are gonna wanna party and have fun on this night dude. Really was not necessary getting bent out of shape and insisting on exercising your boundaries on a night usually meant for partying. If they're usually good throughout the semester why break up their fun?
I don't blame you for necessarily talking to the RA to deal with it since you may not know the partying students. It wouldn't have been that bad perhaps catching one in the hallway and asking if he could relay the message to keep it down a bit though.
freeofgreed
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Probably the longest thread I've ever read on NeoGaf in its entirety. Mainly because I am a currently a college student whose been on both sides of the fence so this subject hits home hard for me.
I personally am going to have to side with PartyGaf on this one. I completely agree that the OP was well within his rights to call the RA if the people partying were preventing him from sleeping, I don't think any one here is really denying that. However I think the point PartyGaf is trying to make that is that OP took the most drastic measure he could, when there were much tamer options available to him. It's like if America declared war on Russia and instead of using infantry they went straight for the nuke.
I personally feel as though NoFunGaf, even though you guys technically are the correct ones here, are being a bit too inflexible. Yes they were being loud and drinking while underaged, but you should also take into consideration that it's a college dorm, on a Saturday night, during St. Patrick's day, during spring break. I understand that being kept awake sucks, but I feel a little leeway definitely should've been used here.
Also I feel as though there is a little bit of a disconnect of the college "culture" from the side that's supporting op. In college it's pretty rare for anyone to go sleep on the same day that they woke up, even on the weekdays, this is especially true on the weekends. I have a huge range of friends at my school from people who party way too much, too introverted people like OP who don't party at all. Even the introvert people don't usually go to bed early. The point I'am trying to make by saying this, is in college people tend to stay up much later than normal people. I'd say 2 am in college is probably comparable to about 12 am for everyone else.
Had the OP went and asked the people party to quiet down a bit and they were rude/still loud afterwards, I would've been 100% behind him going to RA and these guys getting whatever came their way. It's the fact that he went for the most extreme option available to him that kind of irks me the wrong way.
Also I find it a bit hypocritical for some of you to get mad at the names OP is being called (which is perfectly understandable) yet you go on and make wild assumptions about the party goers, calling them assholes, assuming that they are violent and confrontational, and just treating them like they are the spawn of Satan just because they were loud during a party on a holiday weekend. As I've stated earlier I've been on both sides and if you just asked them to turn it down, yes they probably won't be happy about it, but no one will be hostile about it, and 9 times out of 10 they will be quieter and if they don't then they deserve to have the RA called on them.
Also to all the people saying that they should've gone else where that really isn't an option for a lot of people. The town where my school is at is really strict about stores selling alcohol to minors and the local police are very diligent in enforcing this. So bars/clubs are pretty much off limits to everyone except the seniors.
In my school its pretty much:
Freshman year: Dorm partiess, which was the best method of getting to know people on your floor, and imo the most fun ones. And frats, which didn't always through parties.
Sophmore/Junior year- off campus parties, because most people move off around this time so you can either host your own parties or you have friends who can.
Senior year - Bars and clubs.
OP has already stated that they were 1st/2nd years, so I can easily see why a dorm party could've been the only option available to them.
I personally am going to have to side with PartyGaf on this one. I completely agree that the OP was well within his rights to call the RA if the people partying were preventing him from sleeping, I don't think any one here is really denying that. However I think the point PartyGaf is trying to make that is that OP took the most drastic measure he could, when there were much tamer options available to him. It's like if America declared war on Russia and instead of using infantry they went straight for the nuke.
I personally feel as though NoFunGaf, even though you guys technically are the correct ones here, are being a bit too inflexible. Yes they were being loud and drinking while underaged, but you should also take into consideration that it's a college dorm, on a Saturday night, during St. Patrick's day, during spring break. I understand that being kept awake sucks, but I feel a little leeway definitely should've been used here.
Also I feel as though there is a little bit of a disconnect of the college "culture" from the side that's supporting op. In college it's pretty rare for anyone to go sleep on the same day that they woke up, even on the weekdays, this is especially true on the weekends. I have a huge range of friends at my school from people who party way too much, too introverted people like OP who don't party at all. Even the introvert people don't usually go to bed early. The point I'am trying to make by saying this, is in college people tend to stay up much later than normal people. I'd say 2 am in college is probably comparable to about 12 am for everyone else.
Had the OP went and asked the people party to quiet down a bit and they were rude/still loud afterwards, I would've been 100% behind him going to RA and these guys getting whatever came their way. It's the fact that he went for the most extreme option available to him that kind of irks me the wrong way.
Also I find it a bit hypocritical for some of you to get mad at the names OP is being called (which is perfectly understandable) yet you go on and make wild assumptions about the party goers, calling them assholes, assuming that they are violent and confrontational, and just treating them like they are the spawn of Satan just because they were loud during a party on a holiday weekend. As I've stated earlier I've been on both sides and if you just asked them to turn it down, yes they probably won't be happy about it, but no one will be hostile about it, and 9 times out of 10 they will be quieter and if they don't then they deserve to have the RA called on them.
Also to all the people saying that they should've gone else where that really isn't an option for a lot of people. The town where my school is at is really strict about stores selling alcohol to minors and the local police are very diligent in enforcing this. So bars/clubs are pretty much off limits to everyone except the seniors.
In my school its pretty much:
Freshman year: Dorm partiess, which was the best method of getting to know people on your floor, and imo the most fun ones. And frats, which didn't always through parties.
Sophmore/Junior year- off campus parties, because most people move off around this time so you can either host your own parties or you have friends who can.
Senior year - Bars and clubs.
OP has already stated that they were 1st/2nd years, so I can easily see why a dorm party could've been the only option available to them.
this is an actually good post and to me indicates that you'll be a good college student, right at the sweet spot between "studying hard" and "making friends w/people around you."
Devolution
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People having the full college experience? Not on my watch.
OP's action was NOT drastic at all. He asked an RA to tell a party to keep it down. SHOCK. HORROR. Sorry to be one of "those guys", but if you throw a party at 2AM in a dorm and are loud AND have alcohol in an alcohol-free zone you have to know the consequences if it goes to shit. There is no point in blaming the others who want peace and quiet, if you get busted that shit is on YOU and not them. They are under no obligation to ask you nicely when you didn't ask them if it was okay to hold a party in the building.
The RA's actions are not the OP's fault in any way, shape, or form. Also these assumptions about the party's size, number of people, behavior and amicability, etc. are incredibly presumptuous. We don't know -anything- about it other than that they were loud and had alcohol where they shouldn't. Stop with the assumptions.
It doesn't seem like the OP cares what PartyGAF has to say. At this point it's a debate about parties being entitled to the courtesy of being directly approached by disturbed tenants despite not showing the same courtesy towards them before starting the party.
I'm in college and I go to parties - at someone's house or an apartment, and we make sure to keep it down while having our fun or that we're not in a no-alcohol zone.
The RA's actions are not the OP's fault in any way, shape, or form. Also these assumptions about the party's size, number of people, behavior and amicability, etc. are incredibly presumptuous. We don't know -anything- about it other than that they were loud and had alcohol where they shouldn't. Stop with the assumptions.
It doesn't seem like the OP cares what PartyGAF has to say. At this point it's a debate about parties being entitled to the courtesy of being directly approached by disturbed tenants despite not showing the same courtesy towards them before starting the party.
I'm in college and I go to parties - at someone's house or an apartment, and we make sure to keep it down while having our fun or that we're not in a no-alcohol zone.
enoki
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Sorry, it's a dorm room and not an apartment or a home. Most dorms have "quiet" rules in place well before 2AM, and you should be allowed to study at all hours, weekday or weekend, in college without hearing your neighbor's party. You're paying damn good money to be there.
Talking to the RA is the most efficient method and the least likely to cause unnecessary controversy. OP asking the party to quiet down is a waste of his time and not his responsibility. It's the party-goers responsibility not to disturb their neighbors, and they likely signed an agreement stating exactly that.
Don't feel guilty, OP, you didn't ask the police to show up.
Talking to the RA is the most efficient method and the least likely to cause unnecessary controversy. OP asking the party to quiet down is a waste of his time and not his responsibility. It's the party-goers responsibility not to disturb their neighbors, and they likely signed an agreement stating exactly that.
Don't feel guilty, OP, you didn't ask the police to show up.
this will surely interrupt my sunday morning manga reading
Baraka in the White House
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I think I can probably tell who all in this thread had their college paid for by someone else just by their response to the OP.
freeofgreed
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Thanks! Appreciate it, and thanks for reading all of it.
See I don't get this response at all. Why does it have to be one extreme or the other? Why do you assume that just because we're saying that having a party during a weekend night around a holiday isn't that bad, that we are all some sort of huge party animals who do no work at college and who are going on our parents dime? Yes school work is extremely important and should take priority however socializing is also extremely relevant to the experience. I honestly feel bad for you if you went to college and just did nothing but schoolwork the entire time, because you missed out on a great experience.
Excellent post.
dripdripsplash
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So OP called the cops on some students for drinking because he wanted to wake up early to read manga on spring break ?
I live in a shittily built new dorm -- tons of false fire alarms. Pretty common on campus anyway with morons getting stoned and microwaving cup-a-noodle with no water, but still.
I was asleep during a recent one (they're pretty quiet alarms in the new building) and got woken up by a cop knocking on my door, telling me it might be real this time, and to GTFO.
Walked calmly out the door and saw the floor's RA wildly waving his arms forward & shouting at me to get out of the building. Starts shouting at me for being late and says there's a 'REAL FIRE IN THERE' (spoiler: there was not)
I don't hurry up -- I'm at the fucking lobby floor by the door, and telling people to panic-run during a fire is the worst possible idea -- and he fucking interrogates me when I get to the door. Asks about what I was doing when the fire happened, why I didn't come out faster, etc. Dude legit flipped out, and apparently wasn't satisfied with my answers, so he sent another person to get my name afterwards. Since then, my 'random room searches' have been much more thorough, despite the fact that there wasn't even a fire.
RAs are -very- prone to power tripping. Colleges seem to hire the most corruptible and spoiled motherfuckers on the planet.
This is why OP fucked up. You can't put someone's fate (hell, their college education) in the hands of an RA who might be looking for a renewal.
Walk over and knock on their fucking door. I've done it, and it's been done to me. Sometimes people don't know how loud they're being, and it's much better to let them know than, y'know, potentially ruin their party and college career. People behave politely if you show them even the slightest bit of courtesy, which OP absolutely did not.
He didn't call the cops. The RAs called the cops. And the RAs called the cops because those party people refused to open the door
no police. had to meet with the residential director and have a little discussion. i remember being scared shitless that i would lose scholarship money or get kicked out but it didnt have any impact on me academically.
That's a hell of a reach to assume that people are saying partying is bad or that anyone who isn't all for the party scene is a super studious nerd. The point is anyone hosting a loud alcoholic party at 2AM in a no-alcohol dorm should be prepared for any consequences and it is not the fault of the other tenants if it is shut down.
That's a problem with the RA, not the tenants'. They are under no obligation to show you courtesy. The other dorm occupants should not be responsible for being 'cool' if the RA is not.
What's equally annoying is the assumption that anyone who doesn't think the OP did wrong is a holed-up homebody who studies all day and has no social life. It works both ways.
I guess that depends on what you mean by "obligation". Certainly there is no legal obligation involved.
However, I think there are a lot of people out there in the world who would say that there is a moral obligation, from the Golden Rule's "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" or from Kant's principle of universalization for from a utilitarian perspective, since there was probably a lot of needless harm caused by getting the cops involved.
What's the ethical argument for going to the RA immediately rather than first asking them to be quiet?
I think the RA reaction was the egregious one out of this entire situation. Partiers being a little loud, it happens. Guy can't sleep so he calls the RA whose job it is to maintain order, understandable. RAs bring the whole squad plus police after one call complaining about a party. Really?
I follow that rule. If I were at a loud-ass alcoholic party late at night in a no-alcohol dorm and we got busted would I be angry at the people who 'snitched'? No. Also the RAs called the cops, not the OP, and hence that overreaction is on them.
You want to talk about ethics, how about we start with informing the immediate tenants around the dorm that there will be a party going on. There's nothing unethical about going to an RA. What's the ethical argument for hosting an alcoholic party late at night in a no-alcohol zone?
Fenderputty
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Young kids partying in a dorm on sat night are self indulged narcissists?
This thread is hilarious ... And I'm 30+ GAF.
They're fun? What's with the fun police in this thread?
Then you have obviously had a shitty dorm to live in, pre and after parties at the dorms are awesome.
In 10 years he'll probably have a career, a decent place to live and some kind of long term significant other. Any sane reasonably successful person won't give two shits about some rinky dink ass dorm party from a decade prior.
The OP told the RA. It's not his fault more RAs and the cops got involved. He's not wrong for wanting some peace and quiet at 2 in the fucking morning.
I live in an apartment. The day I moved in....The first fucking night, the asshole above me was blasting music at 3 AM. His shit was ungoldy loud. I'm talking stupid high volume and bass where my walls shook and I could feel it in my body. Just utterly insane. I told the property manager. This went on, here and there until finally the management company wrote him a formal statement telling him to turn his shit down. I haven't had problems since. He had the nerve to give me shit after I've politely asked him to turn it down. Fuck him.
You didn't read the context of that conversation did you? And that isn't an ethical argument. I'm not saying 'no fun allowed', I'm saying 'be prepared for shit if you're having a loud alcoholic party at 2AM in a college dorm'. Or are you saying that fun overrides all of that? I'm not against dorm parties, but be prepared for the consequences if you have stuff that isn't allowed there and don't expect others to just shoulder the burden if you get loud. I don't think that's a particularly hard concept to embrace.
Discotheque
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Sunday morning manga reading, it was interrupted for that?! Oh lord....
tycoonheart
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Happened to me when I was in college. Freshman year. I was 18 (so were my other guy friends). A couple of girls in there who were 17.
Cops were called. They essentially gave us a pep talking about drinking under age. We were placed on "academic probation" for a semester. Pretty much a slap on the wrist.
The 17 year old girls, oh yeah cops called their parents because they were minors.
Cops were called. They essentially gave us a pep talking about drinking under age. We were placed on "academic probation" for a semester. Pretty much a slap on the wrist.
The 17 year old girls, oh yeah cops called their parents because they were minors.
The cops showing up is a pretty unusual consequence for something so common.
Zoe
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Maybe they shouldn't have acted like they weren't doing anything then.
Banjo-Kazooie
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Same thing here happened to me. Had this one RA who had some weird obsession with us. She would literally put her ear up to the door and then claim she heard us having fun so assumed we were drinking. She kept trying to edge her way int othe room, but we knew our rights and denied her entry multiple times saying she had to right to come in (even though we knew we weren't drinking or doing anything wrong). Eventually she called some other RA's and a campus cop over after that because she claimed when she was talking to us she heard a bottle clank in our room...as if no other glass bottle exists except for the purpose of holding liquor. It was hilarious when she finally forced her way in with the cops on this presumption and noticed the clanking bottle was just a bottle one of my buddies was using as his dip spitter. She left us alone the rest of the year after that, and we then proceeded to drink our asses off.
She was on a power trip and did similar things to others on our floor, except they were actually drinking when she caught them, and she had a legit look of happiness on her face at the thought of making fellow students miserable.
OP: You are fully within your right to complain about loud noises, but it's a weekend, in college, and it's Saint Patty's Day weekend, so pretty fucked up to ruin their time and then not even go to bed afterwards imo. If it was some random Tuesday or whatever I'd be more inclined to be on your side, but geez.
Nothing wrong w/ calling the cops on rowdy neighbors. Feel free to call again if they pull some stupid retribution shit. You're legally an adult now and are expected to act like one.
W/ that out of the way, what's FK supposed to stand for? Can't keep up w/ these texting shorthands.
W/ that out of the way, what's FK supposed to stand for? Can't keep up w/ these texting shorthands.
Not enough people are highlighting this crucial bit of information.
OP: In the future I would either talk to them before you call the RAs or buy some earplugs. Not because you are morally obligated to do either, but because, when in doubt, err on the side of being understanding, reasonable and accommodating.
This from someone who's been on both sides of the situation.
Jason's Ultimatum
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It all makes sense that the OP would read manga. Look at his username for crying out loud.
OP was probably jelly, because he's an introverted little turtle hiding in his shell, and since there were people having fun and partying, he got jealous and called the cops.
OP was probably jelly, because he's an introverted little turtle hiding in his shell, and since there were people having fun and partying, he got jealous and called the cops.
Had the cops called on us at our house in college as we were playing Mario Kart Double Dash with only the screen door closed as it was hot. Cops showed up and asked what we were up to and started laughing once they found out we were playing the game completely sober, just pumping it through the sound system at 9 PM. They asked us to tone it down and moved on.
haZethew0rld
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Lol this thread.
- They're ENGINEERING STUDENTS, I doubt this happens quite a lot, and if it did, I'm sure OP would've noted it on his post.
- It's A HOLIDAY WEEKEND. On a Saturday. It happened ONCE.
- They're ENGINEERING STUDENTS, I doubt this happens quite a lot, and if it did, I'm sure OP would've noted it on his post.
- It's A HOLIDAY WEEKEND. On a Saturday. It happened ONCE.
GungHo
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Is that like a girlfriend experience?
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