Massive Duck. C.M.
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What would be the equivalent at a non-American university?
I called in a party to the RA, police showed up
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What would be the equivalent at a non-American university?
Revolutionary
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Because I wouldn't want to deal with a bunch of obnoxious drunks at 2am?
Bulbo Urethral Baggins
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Resident Assistant. Usually there is one on every floor. Their job is to supervise students, organize activities, and provide counseling, etc. The bottom line is that they're basically the floor police. The best way to deal with them is get on their good side. I'm guessing these party people have probably been told too many times to tone it down.
We had a snitch on our floor who would call the police every time they smelled weed. They'd bring up the dogs. I never understood that attitude.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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I had the cops called on me at 4am for a housewarming/birthday party, after one of my guests took a swing at the neighbor with a Bible, and we made it out ok. (Granted, this was not America)
The students will be fine
The students will be fine
Massive Duck. C.M.
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If it really bothers you OP, ask the RA what the deal was with that huge response. Feels like vital info is missing...
Hero_of_the_Day
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You did nothing wrong. Fuck any ass holes that think it's fine to be that loud at 2 in the fucking morning.
My friend got busted for underage drinking freshman year of college. He didn't get in any trouble at all. School just told him they'd have a record of it so he'd better not fuck up again.
I haven't seen you present an argument yet. Saying they were just having fun and OP and everyone who agrees with him are "no fun" isn't much of an argument and in no way explains why it's okay for them to be loud enough to keep others on the floor awake at 2 AM. They can drink all the fuck they want, I don't give a fuck what age they are. But, nothing gives them the right to be disturbing others.
My friend got busted for underage drinking freshman year of college. He didn't get in any trouble at all. School just told him they'd have a record of it so he'd better not fuck up again.
I haven't seen you present an argument yet. Saying they were just having fun and OP and everyone who agrees with him are "no fun" isn't much of an argument and in no way explains why it's okay for them to be loud enough to keep others on the floor awake at 2 AM. They can drink all the fuck they want, I don't give a fuck what age they are. But, nothing gives them the right to be disturbing others.
Zoe
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UT had ID checks when I went.
Dude Abides
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If the cops are hardasseses the kids could be in some shit. Friends of mine got busted for undetage in college. They had to hire a lawyer, plead nolo, pay a 5k fine, and do 6 months community service.
Such are the risks of having dorks in your dorm.
Such are the risks of having dorks in your dorm.
BannedEpisode
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Calling the RA on a Saturday night? Before 2? On St. Party's weekend?
Fucking weak.
Jesus GAF dont be such a square.
Fucking weak.
Jesus GAF dont be such a square.
Dude Abides
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His RA might find out.
This.
I'm kind of surprised by some of the responses in here.
Wow, your sleep got disturbed on ONE night(not to mention a Saturday, which also happened to be a "holiday" that is notorious for partying).
Well it's usually beneficial for about an unlimited amount of reasons to be on good terms with your neighbors, I mean, love thy neighbor is one of the oldest rules in the book... You should have at least given them the respect and decency of a knock on the door first, maybe they would have gotten your ass out of bed to socialize with them....not anymore though.
You're essentially a tattle tale that's still in college. Most people grew out of that in grade school because they didn't want to be alienated from their peers over telling the teacher about petty shit instead of just dealing with it themselves.
You're essentially a tattle tale that's still in college. Most people grew out of that in grade school because they didn't want to be alienated from their peers over telling the teacher about petty shit instead of just dealing with it themselves.
Huh, it's interesting reading about the US college system. Never really occurred to me about the underage drinking that must go on.
To me, OP certainly had the right to call, but knocking on the door and asking for some quiet would have been the better option
For comparison, this is how it goes at my uni (Australia)
8:30pm all nights - has to be quiet enough to study
10:30pm all nights - has to be quiet enough to sleep
Subwoofers are banned, and will be taken & donated to charity if discovered
In my block, alcohol can only been consumed in our rooms, in all the other blocks it is banned in rooms and can only be consumed in common rooms.
Our 'RA' s are actually a group of people employed to look after us, not students.
They have the right to enter the rooms of every other block without the owners permission, but for my block they have to have permission before entering.
Total noise ban/alcohol in common area via during study and exam periods
My neighbours above me can get a bit rowdy but they're pretty good natured, if I let them know I need to sleep they keep it down. The RAs have given them a few warnings by the sounds but nothing serious.
To me, OP certainly had the right to call, but knocking on the door and asking for some quiet would have been the better option
For comparison, this is how it goes at my uni (Australia)
8:30pm all nights - has to be quiet enough to study
10:30pm all nights - has to be quiet enough to sleep
Subwoofers are banned, and will be taken & donated to charity if discovered
In my block, alcohol can only been consumed in our rooms, in all the other blocks it is banned in rooms and can only be consumed in common rooms.
Our 'RA' s are actually a group of people employed to look after us, not students.
They have the right to enter the rooms of every other block without the owners permission, but for my block they have to have permission before entering.
Total noise ban/alcohol in common area via during study and exam periods
My neighbours above me can get a bit rowdy but they're pretty good natured, if I let them know I need to sleep they keep it down. The RAs have given them a few warnings by the sounds but nothing serious.
Ultra Magnus
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Yeah I have experience breaking up a big party and I also have experience telling a party to just cut it down a little. 2am 5am 11pm OP should have at least tried to talk with them first. The reason why I always communicated with noisey neighbors first is because I never wanted to see anyone get kicked out of school or suspended over partying. Heck I almost got kicked out of my dorm because someone called the RA on my dorm mates because they thought they smelled weed. OP I'm not condemning you but you really should have asked them to pipe down. A lot of us have been there where we are having fun and prob playing loud music, talking loud forgetting our surroundings - no one deserves to be persecuted for that first without talking to them
shadowsdarknes
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Colleges often have their own police. They typically aren't fond of bringing kids up on charges that severe. Residence life can handle that internally.
George Oscar Bluth II
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It seems that St. Patrick's Day in the US is just an excuse to party. They most likely don't care about whatever Irish ancestry they have any other day.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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Yeah, that was from a general site. I doubt engineering students are going to have the book thrown at them for this. Still wondering why police were brought in at all...
WhereAreMahDragonz
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I imagine that the RA would have made a round eventually and found out.
Seems like a weak move, OP. It was 2 a.m. on a weekend, which isn't that late for college partying, and it is the weekend of one of the biggest drinking holidays, no less. If you had something important to be up for in the morning, I can understand and sympathize with you, but your first course of action should have been to knock and their door and say something to the effect of, "Hey guys, I have [important event of your choosing] to get up for early tomorrow morning and it's tough for me to get to sleep with the noise you're making. Would you mind keeping it down a little bit?"
At least give them the opportunity to rectify things before you potentially fuck up their lives by possibly getting the put on educational probation, kicked out of the dorms, cited by the police for underage drinking, etc. Wouldn't you want that same courtesy extended to you? If they don't quiet down after you ask them, then I'd say fuck 'em and call the RA. (And as a side note, my sympathy would be magnitudes less if they were doing the same thing on a weekday night.)
At least give them the opportunity to rectify things before you potentially fuck up their lives by possibly getting the put on educational probation, kicked out of the dorms, cited by the police for underage drinking, etc. Wouldn't you want that same courtesy extended to you? If they don't quiet down after you ask them, then I'd say fuck 'em and call the RA. (And as a side note, my sympathy would be magnitudes less if they were doing the same thing on a weekday night.)
I mean it's a holiday obviously, but not really the case at all. I live in a very Irish city though so maybe it's different else where.
Laieon
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I don't think it's too surprising, I never did. In fact, I didn't have my first drink until about 3 months after I turned 21, just never saw the point. Even now, 2 years later, alcohol is something I just drink casually. I've never understood the apparent need to get "fucked up". I look at alcohol as I would any other drink, something that I just have if I like the taste. Not everyone goes through that crazy, wild party phase.
I don't necessarily think OP was in the wrong here because it is a shared living space and it was 2am, but he probably should have just gone and knocked and asked them to keep it down. If they kept it up, then you can involve the RA.
After reading this thread, I'm more than glad that my dorm was quiet, especially at night. For the most part, if we wanted to party we would do so off campus.
PhoenixDawn
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If it was past 2AM and they were still so loud that it was disturbing your sleep, you were definitely in the right in calling the RA, at least. Maybe if it was 10-11PM I would have questioned the call, but at 2AM it is well past the time they need to be that loud. They all signed a contract stating they would respect the quiet hours of the building which were 1AM-9AM on weekends (11-7 weekdays) where I lived if I remember right. If they had really wanted to party that late at night they could have either been a bit quieter (unlikely) or done like everyone else does and go off campus somewhere to have their shenanigans.
Arkos
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Whaaaaat nooooo
I agree with this.
Maybe the RA didn't like the kids who were partying, or they had been an issue before. It could have also just been a slow, boring night for the RAs who were on duty.
Loving how the OP is somehow to blame instead of the people breaking the law and making tons of noise at 2 am.
You did the right thing, if the RA called the cops that was his decision, you simply passed the problem to the person responsible for the floor like you should.
Just because they want to party doesn't mean they can do whatever they want and bother other people. OP has the right to sleep if he so desires. Not everyone wants/can party on a Saturday night.
They could've had fun if they weren't bothering other people, they were so they payed for it. Makes sense.
EDIT: btw, I do think calling the cops is excessive but that wasn't on you.
You did the right thing, if the RA called the cops that was his decision, you simply passed the problem to the person responsible for the floor like you should.
Just because they want to party doesn't mean they can do whatever they want and bother other people. OP has the right to sleep if he so desires. Not everyone wants/can party on a Saturday night.
They could've had fun if they weren't bothering other people, they were so they payed for it. Makes sense.
EDIT: btw, I do think calling the cops is excessive but that wasn't on you.
I'm kinda curious if the average age of people who think OP did the right thing differs from those who think he did the wrong thing.
I'm with OP on this. You got a right to sleep, they should either have been quieter, or partied somewhere that isn't filled with people trying to sleep. It's annoying and they signed up with the rules in place and agreed to them. I don't see how people can claim it's a violation of their right to do what they want, it's not. They have a right to party and drink, but also a right to deal with the consequences of their actions. Part of growing up and getting responsibility is learning the limitations associated with it.
I'm with OP on this. You got a right to sleep, they should either have been quieter, or partied somewhere that isn't filled with people trying to sleep. It's annoying and they signed up with the rules in place and agreed to them. I don't see how people can claim it's a violation of their right to do what they want, it's not. They have a right to party and drink, but also a right to deal with the consequences of their actions. Part of growing up and getting responsibility is learning the limitations associated with it.
Zen_Arcade
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I mean, technically you were in your rights in doing it. But I wouldn't want to be the snitch and buzzkill that got the St. Patrick's Day party cut short. And I don't even drink or give a shit about the holiday.
Mammoth Jones
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This. So much this. It's Saturday night, college kids can't party anymore?
"Guys, gotta pack it in...Buzzkillington needs to get his beauty sleep for Sunday morning!"
It's a dorm room, not an apartment.
I was an RA for three years and yeah, these people handled it wrong IMO if I'm understanding your story right. There were some things were the cops had to be involved instantly (drugs, usually, even something minor like weed) but for everything else (even underage drinking) it was the RAs discretion. I was definitely a more lenient RA so if I got called for a party, I'm not breaking it up right away, I'm more inclined to just get them to tone it down which usually isn't hard when they realize what's going on (though at 2 in the morning I might have had more of a fuck it attitude and had them either shut down or clear off somewhere else). Regardless, I'd usually take care of the situation by myself because that means less paperwork for me and no lasting consequences for them, of course if they decide to be a dick then wrath of a thousand suns on you all day everyday. But anyway, you say they came with 4 RAs? Fuck that was half my staff for most of the time I worked in my dorm, I'm surprised they even had 4 availiable on a saturday night but with that many it should have been a cinch to take care of it on their own.
If you're school was anything like mine then the police probably showed up, checked IDs of anyone they could round up, "arrested" the ones who were underage which just involved leaving them with a court date that they had to show up to where a judge will probably issue an alcohol abuse class or a small fine or something small like that and that was that. The RAs probably wrote them up too (police were involved so it would be impossible not to) which means they will have to meet with someone on campus to talk about it and get a campus sanctioned punishment as well. tl;dr version is you probably didn't mess up any of these people's chance at education unless they already had multiple offenses of the same thing in the past. Being expelled from the school or to a lesser extent being able to live in the dorms required multiple offenses in the past and was always a super last resort.
Edit: Oh shit, just realized it was probably a St. Patty's party. Well that changes things a bit, I would have had to do something if a resident specifically complained to me but I would have turned a blind eye to it otherwise. Should have just joined them OP, have some fun and probably gotten laid.
If you're school was anything like mine then the police probably showed up, checked IDs of anyone they could round up, "arrested" the ones who were underage which just involved leaving them with a court date that they had to show up to where a judge will probably issue an alcohol abuse class or a small fine or something small like that and that was that. The RAs probably wrote them up too (police were involved so it would be impossible not to) which means they will have to meet with someone on campus to talk about it and get a campus sanctioned punishment as well. tl;dr version is you probably didn't mess up any of these people's chance at education unless they already had multiple offenses of the same thing in the past. Being expelled from the school or to a lesser extent being able to live in the dorms required multiple offenses in the past and was always a super last resort.
Edit: Oh shit, just realized it was probably a St. Patty's party. Well that changes things a bit, I would have had to do something if a resident specifically complained to me but I would have turned a blind eye to it otherwise. Should have just joined them OP, have some fun and probably gotten laid.
The best kind of night, what kind of dick goes out of their way to cause more trouble for someone just because they are on call. I loved when I had nights on call and absolutely no one had to bother me.
Mammoth Jones
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I'm 33. But at the same time I remember some pretty amazing parties on the weekends in the dorm when I was in school. Thankfully our RA's were there drinking with us.
If it were a weekday I'd agree with OP. But when it's 2am on a Saturday night? C'mon...kids just blowing off steam...at college. Late night parties are pretty normal stuff on the weekend. At least they were when I came up. Maybe that's changed and everyone just sits quietly on their ipads, lol. I dunno
ConfusingJazz
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While I agree with the rest of your post, getting laid because of a dorm party is a steep hill to climb.
WyndhamPrice
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I was an RA for 3 years and I think the cops getting called on that shit is fucking stupid. Unless that's official protocol at your school the RAs on duty should've handled that themselves and written the report to be dealt with through the school's disciplinary committee.
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