At this stage and at this level Sony simply doesn't need marketing.
A few pics here and there is obviously enough to stir shit up like nothing is else.
It's like when the Rolling Stones do announce a new world tour and the tickets sell out shortly after.
There is nothing to proof when you have no real competition.
Let's just hope that Sony is not becoming to arrogant for their own good.
Reason he/she have to say it because every thread about PS5 gets filled by some people whom are having a psychotic breakdown and they have to come to spam some xbox comparisons and "bbbbut xbox can do this too... bbbbut 12 tflops!!". So yeah, it is fine to state that this is just about PS5 if OP wants to talk about PS5 and not to listen the never ending choir of parrots repeating same stuff. Some people are just too stupid to understand that we can talk about thing A without talking about thing B. Like we can talk about Honda specs without dragging every other car manufacturer in. I'm 99% sure that even OP asking not to talk about ps5 vs xbox = boneheads come to talk about how xbox did it better etc. Your comment kind of started it already and this comment kind of continues it.. see
I give a few examples with links and such in my OP to direct evidence of this approach generating huge word-of-mouth hyping among fans. On top of that, I acknowledged the good things XSX has done, and even speculated about ANOTHER area (decompression) in which people have said they may have the upper hand.
The suggestion that I'm being a fanboy is, like, fanboyism without reading the OP.
It's true though. I'm considering going X Box and I never would have if Sony this last year hadn't happened.
You'd dig their marketing even if they do nothing.
An IPhone is revealed and launched within a month.
In tech that’s what a powerful brand can do, capture your attention and your wallet from the moment it is revealed. It doesn’t need to go on tour for months.
In a sense the marketing has been done for years now, it’s called a PS4.
Don't ridicule people who are unhappy with Sony's drip feed tactics.
They are just coming off the best product they have ever had and are treating those fans who helped thee product get there like irrelevant.
They might have reasons for doing what they are currently doing but I don think its unfair for a few people to not be happy.
Don't ridicule people who are unhappy with Sony's drip feed tactics.
They are just coming off the best product they have ever had and are treating those fans who helped thee product get there like irrelevant.
They might have reasons for doing what they are currently doing but I don think its unfair for a few people to not be happy.
It's true though. I'm considering going X Box and I never would have if Sony this last year hadn't happened.
PS4's reveal pattern was pretty much exactly the same as the PS5's has been so far. Tech specs in a developer conference, followed up by controller reveal, then came E3 with the actual console reveal.There hasn’t realy been any marketing?
I get that your excited as is everybody else, I just wish they had the confidence to show the console. With the PS4 they showed the console off in February and launched in novemeber
Incorrect. They are treating those fans with Final Fantasy 7 Remake, Last of Us 2 and Ghost of Tsushima.
It comes down to forum wars nothing else, some people get upset because “the other guys” have more to talk about their next gen defacto console of choice. But they better because they have nothing to talk about regarding the one they have at home. They can’t even pre order the damn thing yet....
I think that is a little disingenuous.
We don't know why Sony is drip feeding details.
Some believe that the console simply hasn't been finalised yet whilst others believe they are hiding behind a poorly designed console. I believe Sony are just protecting its technologies until close to release.
I'm sure Sony with its vast experience knows exactly what they are doing, and will correct its course should things not be working out as intended.
So you're considering moving platforms because you don't have enough information on a console whose launch is more than 6 months away?
Even though the rival you are considering jumping to hasn't really given that much more information and hasn't shown any gameplay either.
Good for you, I suppose.
I prefer to wait for a more complete picture, even if I do want it now.
There. Is. No. Rush.
PS5 isn't until winter, people act like its coming out next week.
It comes down to forum wars nothing else
Defensive positivity.
Worst ever? I wouldn't think it's that bad. It has plenty more of a presence online at the moment and the difference is showing. People don't stop talking about it, at the moment in the world any publicity is good publicity for the side that still has momentum.A strong happy article for Sony on some of the worst console marketing ever?
This forum is pro Sony sometimes its ridiculous. Might was well just rename it to sonyneogaf.com.
They could release a picture of a toilet bowl with a pile of shit in it and a ps5 sitting on it and their fans would still jerk off to it. They dont need proper marketing. They dont have to do anything they have a rabid fanbase similar to apple.To be fair... they simply dropped am image of their controller, barely said a word and ended up as headlines across the world for a week straight with everyone making mock ups of their ideal color scheme of the controller.
Thats a different kind and level of marketing.
They could release a picture of a toilet bowl with a pile of shit in it and a ps5 sitting on it and their fans would still jerk off to it. They dont need proper marketing. They dont have to do anything they have a rabid fanbase similar to apple.
If theres two companys and one is doing everything it can to try and win me over and the other is seemingly not that bothered, or taking my purchase for granted then certainly I'd consider switching over. If they were both fighting for my money right now I'd likely consider sticking with the console I've largely been really happy with.
I haven't made any decision yet but these kind of attitudes by companys are usually indicative of what's to come. For example I wasnt happy with the last 2 years of the 360, I felt the exclusives had dried up, adverts were on the dash etc and then the tv tv tv box got revealed and the rest was history.
It pays to read the tea leaves sometimes, or at least be cautious.
And have not been happy with the PS4's very decent game library and support you are still getting all gen long ?
They could release a picture of a toilet bowl with a pile of shit in it and a ps5 sitting on it and their fans would still jerk off to it. They dont need proper marketing. They dont have to do anything they have a rabid fanbase similar to apple.
Great input man, thank you.OP, I don't really get your use of "marketing", I mean, with quotes
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The dialogue of Cerny saying that big number teraflops doesn't really matter was great, specially to explain people that "doesn't matter how big is your dick, but how you use it". Kinda created another problem, because some people used this argument and the SSD aproach
The DualSense is a controller with a new apearence and new stuff, while the Xbox controller is just a better version of we already have. So makes sense to talk more about the inovation more than the evolution.
I guess that my only problem is with the fans who basically are saying that Sony won before starting.
Sony did basically the same thing with the PS4, showing techinical stuff before the console itself. I'm not a fan of this method, but I understand that they want speculation and hype, which helps marketing. I think that they will do just as good as the PS4.
I absolutely have. World Wide Studios have been nothing but amazing. But I can separate the gaming division from the business devision (and criticise a company I like alot on the whole).
- Worse refund policy
- Dragging feet with cross play.
- PS now not up to the level of Gamepass.
- Console specs not up to the competition in a number of key areas.
- Lack of Commnuication and ill advised Mark Cerny tech talk first look. Conflicting statements released (similar to XB1 launch).
- *Apparantly* major lack of focus on Backwards Compatibility (PS1-PS3).
- No smart play.. or if seemingly there it gives the impression they have been coerced into it by the competition.
- Failure to participate in major events for a sustained period of time.
- Keeping things like the cooling system a secret...
-Organisation leaders leaving under mysterious circumstances.
Just because the games are so good dosnt mean I'll turn a blind eye to everything else.
That's a good ideaI think they are building hype and while I think to myself they've got some great games coming in the near future and might not want to outshine those games before they reveal something meaty about next gen I just think that the repurposed GDC conference video presentation we got wasn't really the the right way to reveal to anything to the public for me personally .
How else would you describe their brand of teaming up to pick over every good thing they've heard about the console, in the face of/response to vocal opposing opinions?Defensive positivity.
You know there were features that ps4 had at the start that the xbone didn't have ? ...Point is the features if they're a must have usually end up on both consoles in some form..I haven't enjoyed the GDC conference reveal I don't worship mark cerny either but I also know it will be a great console and know playstation as a brand you can trust to deliver great games all gen long I mean what more do you want... Complete support all gen long with great games
Who's Mark Carney? Cardboard cutouts? Moron go and play with dollies and let the big people continue to have rational discussion.What marketing? Mark Carney talking to cardboard cutouts
Good metaphor for sony and its consumers tbh