I find Pop-GAF utterly baffling (RANT)

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There's no tension between K-POP GAF and POP-GAF anymore.
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Kyon said:
Why did you reply to it
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I don't even know sis.
 
I don't mind pop-gaf, you guys are alright and those 859594854 gifs posted on every page make me laugh.


Though I haven't listented to much pop in ages. *runs away*

An old girlfriend used to blast nothing but Avril in high school and it's still stuck in my head , oh well.

Why did you have to go and make things so complicated :p , every other day it's played at work haha
 
Satch said:
I think the one person in PopGAF that's actually run closest to imitating a pop star is Modmei. He's smart and witty, so his remarks are backhanded, scathing, and will make you cry yourself to sleep at night... just like Mariah's ;_;

A master of the craft, really. The rest of PopGAF tried it tho.
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tmarques said:
What does "shade" mean anyway? I tried the stanclopedia that was posted earlier, but no luck.
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Properly speaking, shade is basically being insulting in an ambiguous way so that your audience is not sure whether you are insulting them or whether you are just making a comment that could be misconstrued that way. Oftentimes things that are not actually shade, but are just insults, are referred to as shade, though this is not strictly accurate.

I am just a naturally shady person, so PopGAF always thinks I am being shady when I'm not.

royalan said:
Sing it, duh.

Whether or not current singers have adequate ability to interpret the music written for them is not up to you to decree.
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I think she has a point, actually. Your argument was something of a non sequitur, where in a discussion about modern pop singers, the vast majority of whom have no interpretive or technical abilities as singers to speak of, you used examples of singers from fifty, sixty, or seventy years ago who were masterful in both respects in order to make a point that singers needn't write their own lyrics. This is true, of course, but when the singer doesn't even have interpretive ability worth speaking of: What then?
 
OP, if you are still reading this, what makes Coexist so much better than Red that they are incomparable? Because I was just on Wikipedia and their critic scores are the exact same.
 
I'm reading that stan-wars.com website at work and laughing so hard I'm crying.

Why Other Stanbases Don't Like Britney Stans

Britney stans have extremely high standards -- when it comes to other artists. If Katy Perry's hair is parted incorrectly and her lipstick doesn't match her shoes, Britney stans will write a 34-page review about how sloppy and basic Katy Perry is. But if Britney collapses in puddle of her own vomit then Britney is slaying and anyone says differently are haters.
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FStop7 said:
Some of the most moving and iconic musical performances have been covers.

Jimi Hendrix didn't write All Along the Watchtower
Stevie Ray Vaughn didn't write Little Wing
Sinead O'Connor didn't write Nothing Compares 2 U

those are just off the top of my head.
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Jimi Hendrix wrote almost all of his own songs. That cover you mention was a Bob Dylan cover and Hendrix added a lot to that song. His guitar solo on that song is amazing. Original.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_L4RtU1iRg

I have no problem with Pop music. The genres of music aren't split into pop crap and indie crap. There's pop, dance, rock, folk, country, blues, rhythm and blues, jazz, classical, etc.
 
Jitters said:
OP, if you are still reading this, what makes Coexist so much better than Red that they are incomparable? Because I was just on Wikipedia and their critic scores are the exact same.
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critic scores mean nothing. taylor is as basic as it gets. cant believe people stan for that overgrown tween.
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Mumei said:
I think she has a point, actually. Your argument was something of a non sequitur, where in a discussion about modern pop singers, the vast majority of whom have no interpretive or technical abilities as singers to speak of, you used examples of singers from fifty, sixty, or seventy years ago who were masterful in both respects in order to make a point that singers needn't write their own lyrics. This is true, of course, but when the singer doesn't even have interpretive ability worth speaking of: What then?
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Well then we get into a messy and subjective discussion about what counts as interpretive ability.

I mean, I'm sure you and I would agree that POP starlets like Ke$ha and Britney couldn't sing their way out of a pair of last season's dereon jeans. But they deliver their lyrics in a unique way. Some would consider that interpretive ability. Some would consider just being able to sing the notes as being interpretive ability.

So I think it's just safe to stick to the overall point: that writing your lyrics has no bearing on whether or not you're a musician. It's certainly an ace, provided the lyrics are good (Sorry, taylor).
 
What are you OP? A 10 year old? This is the problem with the world today: people like OP butting into something that has nothing to do with him.

What POP-GAF or any other GAF do is not hurting anyone. If you don't like it, you are free to mind your own business. But don't tell others who have different taste/preference from you that they should not like what you don't like.
 
We have phone wars and console wars, why is the idea of pop star wars so strange?

I was hoping for some more sick burns in this thread though because I wanted to make a comment about wigs gettin' snatched.
 
Supermanisdead said:
critic scores mean nothing. taylor is as basic as it gets. cant believe people stan for that overgrown tween.
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Basic does not equal bad and don't bring that "stan" shit into this conversation. I'm no stan. Anyway, what I'm trying to say is that there was a lot of stuff wrong with Coexist. Way too subdued. Both albums have good and bad qualities.
 
I really enjoy seeing popgaf do their thing.
They are harmless entertainment just like the artists they stan for. :)
 
patrickthehedgehog said:
I'm reading that stan-wars.com website at work and laughing so hard I'm crying.
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The stan wars wiki is even better.

Rihanna Stan Weaknesses said:
Rihanna's middling success on the albums charts and her spotty tour receipts have lead to the Navy being criticized for being more of a theoretical fan base than a group with any type of useful purpose outside of the Internet. Some may argue that the Catch-22 of marketing an artist like Rihanna is that anyone who finds her entertaining wouldn't have $10 to spare, but it is more than a little classist to make fun of the Navy for not having any money and if we examine the finances of the average Rihanna stan you will see where the problem lies. Once their BreedItRaw checks come in the mail and State and Federal taxes are deducted, then they must pay bus fare to get to the public library to use the computers to watch Rihanna's VEVO channel and make trending topics like "Rihanna is a Legind". Once you subtract money used for food, ointment and Wet Seal clothing, there simply isn't enough money left for a $10 album, a $10 movie ticket or a $3 concert ticket.
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http://stan-wars.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Rihanna
 
A Pretty Panda said:
The streams have crossed man.

I heard Gangnam Style on the radio the other day.
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Didn't that song break records or something?

I don't get it. The song is the video (which is admittedly funny to watch). Separate the song from the video and you have a generic shitty dance-pop track that's basically another "Party Rock Anthem." Yet it's on the radio and people are loving it. I hate to say it I think it's really shallow to keep letting this kind of music dominate the charts; I have no idea why people latch onto it like it's something special when it's not. It's brain-dead music that serves two real purposes: to accompany its own video or to dance to in a club setting. Otherwise it's basically pointless to listen to thoughtfully.

All that said, the worst aspect of pop-GAF isn't their tastes in music but rather that obnoxious "stanning" that goes on. If you need to say "my fave is better than your fave" then it just shows how insecure you are about the music you listen to.
 
Sadsic said:
so whats pop-gaf's favorite non-pop music?
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I prefer non-pop music. I like Pop-GAF more than I like pop.

royalan said:
Well then we get into a messy and subjective discussion about what counts as interpretive ability.

I mean, I'm sure you and I would agree that POP starlets like Ke$ha and Britney couldn't sing their way out of a pair of last season's dereon jeans. But they deliver their lyrics in a unique way. Some would consider that interpretive ability. Some would consider just being able to sing the notes as being interpretive ability.

So I think it's just safe to stick to the overall point: that writing your lyrics has no bearing on whether or not you're a musician. It's certainly an ace, provided the lyrics are good (Sorry, taylor).
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First, you know that there is more to interpretive ability than just "hitting the notes." Second, you know that merely "being able to sing the notes" is well beyond the technical ability of many, ahem, vocalists in pop music. And third, her point was that in many cases they aren't responsible for those choices in delivery and interpretation because those choices are producer-driven. I think Fugu probably overestimates how common this is, but I don't think it is completely without merit.
 
Mumei said:
I prefer non-pop music. I like Pop-GAF more than I like pop.
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The thing is, we also need to separate "pop music" (as in Top 40) from "pop-styled music" because they are actually different things.

I enjoy pop-styled music. That is, basic structure, maybe some catchiness or hooks, dance-y or electronic, etc. But I don't enjoy the over-commercialized spoon fed radio version of the genre. I've enjoyed my fair share of groups like New Order, Electronic, Diamond Rings, Robyn, Grimes, Passion Pit, and Beck.

My favorite artists and genres lie within indie boundaries for the most part, but it's not like I completely avoid artists that have commercial exposure. There's just a point where I draw the line.
 
^Those over-commercialized spoon fed radio versions are still pop music. As shitty and generic as they might sound, that doesn't change anything.
 
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