I miss being blown away by new-gen graphics....
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KungFucius
King Snowflake
I was blown away by how shitty the opening of Horizon looked. The video showed compression BS like it was streaming at a low res and bitrate. Maybe they went for that look as nothing else in the game looks so bad, but it was a shit scene regardless.
sankt-Antonio
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Yeah I'm also really unimpressed with what I got on PS5 thus far. It looks okay but I would argue the smallest upgrade between console generations so far.
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JimmyRustler
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Matrix demo was impressive. On rails and 30 fps but… impressive.
Dimishing returns I guess. Well, I'm glad I was there from PS1>PS2>PS3>HDR. Those jumps ain't coming back.
Dimishing returns I guess. Well, I'm glad I was there from PS1>PS2>PS3>HDR. Those jumps ain't coming back.
N1tr0sOx1d3
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Deerock71
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Hyperbole, thy name is NeoGAF.
Chronicle
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What's the first game? You should list them just so those of us who do t know can go and experience these if we chose.
I just don't know what else you expect?
N1tr0sOx1d3
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Cyberpunk
sankt-Antonio
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If only every game was money shots all the time, yeah... in reality they aren't. A lot of the stuff is highly inconsistent inconsistent. If it was always gfx like these cherry picked shoots - I you be ecstatic. Its just not the case.
I just don't know what else you expect?
N1tr0sOx1d3
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I doubt you'll ever be happy then. That's gaming for you. I know what you mean, but we can't control it.
That's why COD never progresses….happy to churn out the same games year after year…
Swift_Star
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I was blown away by HFW in a 1080p screen.
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
I don't think the pandemic influenced the design of the consoles - those designs will have been finalised and ordered well before production, which will have been well before the consoles were released.
Or have I misunderstood what you meant?
What you say about the same architecture is interesting though, Apple's new M1 processors have shown themselves to be more capable than intel's designs, even when running code written for Intel machines. I wonder if anyone will make their own custom chips in the future. Seems more possible now that platform holders are buying up developers that could end up using shared engine and tools. - At a guess, I'm not a developer, obvs.
Zeroing
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The pandemic did not had any influence on the design but it did on how much consoles can be produced hence we might see more cross gen games.
After the hurdles Sony had from going from the cell architecture to the x86, I doubt they will venture on another transition but yes you are correct x86 architecture seems to be bloated and not very energy efficient, thus bigger consoles with bigger fans…
RexAnglo
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Hyperbole means something that is greatly exaggerated.
There's nothing remotely exaggerated about me saying the ps5 is wasted on a 1080p screen and was designed to be played on 4k displays.
If you don't realise that, that's unfortunate.
You are effectively wasting the potential of your ps5.
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DryvBy
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That really is the thing is they keep pushing the frame rate now 60fps isn't enough. And people have very crappy memories because I don't recall getting even 60fps out of a lot of my old console games growing up. Perfect Dark with the expansion pak ran at some 20fps and that's a classic.
OP, there are some great games. Ratchet & Clank is one of them and while on video, Horizon 2 isn't it, Horizon 2 is really detailed with high end image quality. Ratchet still looks better to me but Horizon 2 isn't anything to ignore or like I previously said, doesn't look good. Web 3.0 outside of forcing NFTs everywhere needs to make uncompressed images a thing.
assurdum
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RexAnglo
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Chronicle
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Sweet. Thanks! Just started it. It looks gorgeous and runs well.Cyberpunk
nemiroff
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Been gaming for four decades and have never been "!BLOWN AWAY!" by graphics "gens". That's not a bad thing, I really enjoy visuals, it's just that to me processing power, display technology, graphics and art appear to more or less followed a steady linear progression. So I don't see the leaps, because there are none without a leap in time between comparisons.
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RexAnglo
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I've been gaming for about the same amount of time and I feel like the jump from ps2 and xbox to full HD xbox 360 and ps3 games is the most impressed I've ever been with a generational leap.
Especially, after I bought my first 1080p TV.
The clarity and detail compared to the old CRtv's was night and day.
I remember playing Gears of War 2 on the HDtv and being blown away.
nemiroff
Gold Member
True. I guess I guess I just have a different definition of "blown away", you know, semantics. I've done my share of "what a time to be alive" throughout the progression in graphics, I'm not without emotions; I was truly blown away first time doing racing with a wheel in good VR, and I was indeed on the edge of going overboard with emotions
I'm as much floored as when the PS2, PS3/Xbox 360, PS4/Xbox One came. Sure, it felt different in the PS1/N64 era because I was child – and seeing the first fully 3D Zelda was just breathtaking – and hence I had this child-like enthusiasm, practically about anything, like at Christmas or my birthday. Then you grow up and lose that enthusiasm intensity. It's pretty normal.
On a more technical side, though, the jump is probably as big as any. We seen a resolution bump and improved and completely new render technologies, probably as much as when any other console come around.
Also, because I was always mainly a PC gamer, I wouldn't notice big jumps in "generations" (I never used that term until devs and publisher came around with "next gen" at the beginning for the PS3/360 era), it was more incremental and gradual; seeing Max Payne 1 back then was stunning, then came Max Payne 2 only two years later and it looked, by today's standards, almost like a "next gen" title; the visuals improved so much.
On a more technical side, though, the jump is probably as big as any. We seen a resolution bump and improved and completely new render technologies, probably as much as when any other console come around.
Also, because I was always mainly a PC gamer, I wouldn't notice big jumps in "generations" (I never used that term until devs and publisher came around with "next gen" at the beginning for the PS3/360 era), it was more incremental and gradual; seeing Max Payne 1 back then was stunning, then came Max Payne 2 only two years later and it looked, by today's standards, almost like a "next gen" title; the visuals improved so much.
ByWatterson
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I'm still blown away by Horizon Zero Dawn.
So confused.
So confused.
amigastar
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Yeah, GTA 3 was really special back then because of the physics.
RexAnglo
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I just meant in the context of what came before and since.True. I guess I guess I just have a different definition of "blown away", you know, semantics. I've done my share of "what a time to be alive" throughout the progression in graphics, I'm not without emotions; I was truly blown away first time doing racing with a wheel in good VR, and I was indeed on the edge of going overboard with emotions
That generational jump in quality from ps2 to ps3 and xbox to xbox 360 is still the most impressive, in my opinion.
It was much more pronounced and, as I said, I think it was the move to proper high definition graphics and the screens which did them justice.
Galatico91
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Horizon FW is mind blowing:
Ulysses 31
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Is the whole game so cloudy in the distance or is it just something of that region?
Galatico91
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I'm still at the beginning of the game, but I believe it's like the first one, all the mountainous areas have a lot of clouds, and the plains have long, clear views.
Represent.
Represent(ative) of bad opinions
its just that area. tons of areas without cloud coverage
IFireflyl
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Sure, you're not getting the full resolution it's capable of outputting with a 1080p screen, but most games don't provide a true (native) 4k experience with XSX and PS5 either. Generally they're using a smaller resolution (1440p - 1800p), or they're using upscaling. I agree that for the best quality you should have a 4k screen, but the hyperbole is saying that you're "missing out" by not playing on a 4k screen, and then using the analogy of getting laser eye surgery and putting on dirty graphics that hurt your eyes. That's not remotely true. I'm with
Deerock71
on this one.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Wish it wasn't so "sharp" aliased in motion. There are way too many fine details for the weak anti aliasing they have to resolve.Horizon FW is mind blowing:
Some areas look a bit dithered because of that
RexAnglo
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OK, fair point.Sure, you're not getting the full resolution it's capable of outputting with a 1080p screen, but most games don't provide a true (native) 4k experience with XSX and PS5 either. Generally they're using a smaller resolution (1440p - 1800p), or they're using upscaling. I agree that for the best quality you should have a 4k screen, but the hyperbole is saying that you're "missing out" by not playing on a 4k screen, and then using the analogy of getting laser eye surgery and putting on dirty graphics that hurt your eyes. That's not remotely true. I'm with
I guess what I'm trying to say is playing on a 4k display is the ideal way, the best way, but certainly not the only way.
IFireflyl
Gold Member
That's fair to say. I can't imagine anyone wanting to have less detail, for sure.
Tiago Rodrigues
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By Horizon you mean you played the original game right now right? Even then...shitty wouldn't make much sense.
Swift_Star
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Well, the good thing is: the games will look better in perf mode than in a 4K screen.
Swift_Star
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Salty or hyperbole? I can't decide.
the original game is beautiful. This notion fist ps4 games looks shitty makes no sense. Even ps3 games still look good.
People in forums are Annoying af.
MikeM
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Depends. Some day I sorely miss my Panasonic VT50 TV. Plasmas were the shit.
DenchDeckard
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I'm interested in how old you are OP? was the PS4 your console after your late teens etc so you were playing Ps3/360 in your teens then the PS4 came along and wowed you?
i only ask this as an old cynical PC gamer that hasn't as Much weight in actual graphics for years. I just want games that look decent and run well but more than anything play amazingly.
the bumping of this thread totally threw me.
i only ask this as an old cynical PC gamer that hasn't as Much weight in actual graphics for years. I just want games that look decent and run well but more than anything play amazingly.
the bumping of this thread totally threw me.
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Tiago Rodrigues
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I totally agree with you. I was just trying to understand which game he's talking about. If it's the first game as I said, it doesn't make any sense to being called shitty.
I still look at Killzone Shadow fall and I still think it looks impressive. Hell even Uncharted 2 on PS3 and older games.
Horizon FW looks great but it looking almost identical on PS4 (barring some lower detail and pop in issues) hardly makes much an argument for how big of a leap this generation is graphics wise. Gameplay wise its also very much a last gen game in that regard.
Im still waiting for something that you can tell just couldn't be made on the last gen consoles. Not just graphically but also when it comes to scale, physics, interactivity, etc.
Im still waiting for something that you can tell just couldn't be made on the last gen consoles. Not just graphically but also when it comes to scale, physics, interactivity, etc.
Feel Like I'm On 42
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That's not hyperbole ...you need a 4k tv with any of the latest platforms. 4k or at least 1440p has been the standard for a while