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Red

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Commanche Raisin Toast said:
sweet.

i may spring for the MSI Cyclone 6850 very soon ($190), and then when it's upgrade time just buy a second one along with the new mobo, DDR3, and X6.
Sounds like a monster machine. Good stuff.
 
Figured better to ask here than the BF3 thread, so I'll just repost my previous post:

Ok so I've been mainly a console gamer for the past I don't know how many years, and only really play BF2 and Age of Empires 2 (yes AOE2, the best RTS ever made) on my PC. I bought my PC back in 2007, and haven't touched it since. What should I do for this game? It has:

Core 2 Quad Q6600
8800GT 512mb
3gb ram
400W PSU

I want to play the latest PC games close to their optimum potential. I'm looking at BF3 here specifically, too. Is the CPU ok or do I really have to get a new mobo for one? =(

It's LGA775 so any better CPU options with that socket? I'm not too tech savvy, just know the basics. Help me out GAF.
 
shinobi602 said:
Figured better to ask here than the BF3 thread, so I'll just repost my previous post:

Ok so I've been mainly a console gamer for the past I don't know how many years, and only really play BF2 and Age of Empires 2 (yes AOE2, the best RTS ever made) on my PC. I bought my PC back in 2007, and haven't touched it since. What should I do for this game? It has:

Core 2 Quad Q6600
8800GT 512mb
3gb ram
400W PSU

I want to play the latest PC games close to their optimum potential. I'm looking at BF3 here specifically, too. Is the CPU ok or do I really have to get a new mobo for one? =(

It's LGA775 so any better CPU options with that socket? I'm not too tech savvy, just know the basics. Help me out GAF.

You're CPU is probably fine. Your bottleneck is that old 8800.

How long are you willing to wait? If you have a budget of around ~200 bucks, the best bang for your buck is a GTX460 right now.

Unfortunantely you can't upgrade to any of the newer i3/i5/i7 variants (non-sandy bridge). But GPU >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CPU in your case.
 
The_Inquisitor said:
You're CPU is probably fine. Your bottleneck is that old 8800.

How long are you willing to wait? If you have a budget of around ~200 bucks, the best bang for your buck is a GTX460 right now.

Unfortunantely you can't upgrade to any of the newer i3/i5/i7 variants (non-sandy bridge). But GPU >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CPU in your case.

Ok sounds good. I'm specifically looking at BF3 here, and other games, I want to run them at optimal settings, maybe not full max, but close to it you know? I'm planning on getting a new card in the summer, budget is no more than $200....so still GTX460 by then?
 

Hazaro

relies on auto-aim
For a gateway stock PSU a 768MB probably, yes.
As I said in the BF3 thread if you can overclock or padmod your Q6600 that will help a bunch. (3Ghz)
 
Hazaro said:
For a gateway stock PSU a 768MB probably, yes.
As I said in the BF3 thread if you can overclock or padmod your Q6600 that will help a bunch. (3Ghz)

I'll be upgrading the PSU as well, probably to something over 600W. I don't really know how to overclock, like I said, not too tech savvy >_>

I know to overclock a CPU, I've seen people physically apply paste and whatnot to it, I'm afraid of doing something wrong lol... v_v
 

Hazaro

relies on auto-aim
shinobi602 said:
I'll be upgrading the PSU as well, probably to something over 600W. I don't really know how to overclock, like I said, not too tech savvy >_>

I know to overclock a CPU, I've seen people physically apply paste and whatnot to it, I'm afraid of doing something wrong lol... v_v
Even for <$200 just get a 768MB GTX460. Should run fine if you have a 8800GT in there now. The 1GB model uses a bit more power, but is faster and costs more. A 1GB should be fine as well, but the 768MB ver. is more value oriented.
 

RedSwirl

Junior Member
shinobi602 said:
Figured better to ask here than the BF3 thread, so I'll just repost my previous post:

Ok so I've been mainly a console gamer for the past I don't know how many years, and only really play BF2 and Age of Empires 2 (yes AOE2, the best RTS ever made) on my PC. I bought my PC back in 2007, and haven't touched it since. What should I do for this game? It has:

Core 2 Quad Q6600
8800GT 512mb
3gb ram
400W PSU

I want to play the latest PC games close to their optimum potential. I'm looking at BF3 here specifically, too. Is the CPU ok or do I really have to get a new mobo for one? =(

It's LGA775 so any better CPU options with that socket? I'm not too tech savvy, just know the basics. Help me out GAF.

Man we just went through this!

I have pretty much the exact same system you do right now and a couple pages back I decided on upgrading the GPU to an ATI HD 6850, which is slightly better than the GTX 460. In comparisons it comes up as a bit faster, uses a bit less power, and is also a bit cheaper. I also decided to upgrade to a 550w Power Supply Unit.
 

RedSwirl

Junior Member
Oh, and lastly regarding the HD 6850 upgrade, what's it like in terms of heat and noise? My 8800 sounds like a jet engine pretty much the entire time I'm running any game.
 

TheExodu5

Banned
6850 is far quieter than the 8800GT. 8800GT is one of the loudest video cards out there due to having only a single slot cooler. You can also get something like the Gigabyte 6850 which will be even quieter, due to having a non-reference cooler.
 

Zzoram

Member
RedSwirl said:
Oh, and lastly regarding the HD 6850 upgrade, what's it like in terms of heat and noise? My 8800 sounds like a jet engine pretty much the entire time I'm running any game.

Well if the HD6850 uses less power, it's probably quieter too. Less power consumption = less heat = less fan.
 

TheExodu5

Banned
Zzoram said:
Well if the HD6850 uses less power, it's probably quieter too. Less power consumption = less heat = less fan.

6850 uses more power than the 8800GT. But like I said, it's a dual-slot cooler vs a single slot cooler.
 

Kenka

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TheExodu5 said:
6850 is far quieter than the 8800GT. 8800GT is one of the loudest video cards out there due to having only a single slot cooler. You can also get something like the Gigabyte 6850 which will be even quieter, due to having a non-reference cooler.

Really ? Damn, I didn't know that my card was one of the loudest around x_X. I was afraid of the fact that more powerful cards may fart dust even louder than it.
 

TheExodu5

Banned
Kenka said:
Really ? Damn, I didn't know that my card was one of the loudest around x_X. I was afraid of the fact that more powerful cards may fart dust even louder than it.

Back then, they didn't really make dual-slot cards. Now, dual-slot is the norm.

A lot of people were buying the Arctic Cooling S1 for the 8800GT. It was a dual slot cooler, but even managed to cool the card passively, if the case had decent airflow. Some people would strap a 120mm fan on it and it would run at like 45C under load.
 

Ecto311

Member
Amazon is listing a few asus 1155 boards and the asus P8P67 PRO is going for around $108 - that a good price? I thought I remembered this board going for a lot more when it was out the first time.
 

xero273

Member
Kadey said:
Does the speed of a hd make any difference in streaming video online? How about ram?

I'm looking at your archives right now and I don't see anything wrong with your stream. What's wrong with your stream?
 

squicken

Member
I was looking around, trying to gauge what a GPU upgrade might cost come fall. I am wondering why the GTX 460 I bought 6 months ago is still the same price as it was in September? Why aren't prices falling?
 

Relax.MX

Member
Hazaro said:
Newegg ships there?
Card is solid. A 6850 might be near the same price if you factor in your location? Not sure, but worth looking into.

I have a family in California, and I can cross the border, but not always
 

Majanew

Banned
Ok, gents.

A GTX580 or an ATi 5970 to run BF3 maxed out this holiday? If you'd be so kind and steer me in the right direction for the most badass card to run BF3 maxed the F out.

Would running dual 580's be best? I read the new UE3 stuff shown was running on 3 580's.
 

Corky

Nine out of ten orphans can't tell the difference.
Majanew said:
Ok, gents.

A GTX580 or an ATi 5970 to run BF3 maxed out this holiday? If you'd be so kind and steer me in the right direction for the most badass card to run BF3 maxed the F out.

Would running dual 580's be best? I read the new UE3 stuff shown was running on 3 580's.

The game isn't out for a while. When it is, there will be 6990s and 690s or whatever out there. If you have the cash steer away from multi-gpu setups. Also you won't ever need two or even three of the best gpus out there at a given point to run games that are out at said time.
 
Majanew said:
Ok, gents.

A GTX580 or an ATi 5970 to run BF3 maxed out this holiday? If you'd be so kind and steer me in the right direction for the most badass card to run BF3 maxed the F out.

Would running dual 580's be best? I read the new UE3 stuff shown was running on 3 580's.

*Corky beat me to the punch* :(

If you can get away with a single GPU, do it. That said, we don't really know much about BF3, so no one can say anything about recommend specs, etc. For all we know if could be another Crysis... though at this point in the game, I doubt the software is going to out pace the hardware.

Still for what we've seen, the 580GTX / 570GTX / 560Ti would be more than enough on nvidia's end and the 6700/6900 series on ATI's send would be more than enough.
 

TheExodu5

Banned
Only go multi GPU if you need the power to beat the best single GPU setups.

My SLI GTX 570 is screaming fast, but SLI comes with it's own slew of problems (namely, lack of profiles or microstuttering).

If a single GPU isn't enough to get the visuals and framerate you want out of BF3, then go for it. I wouldn't touch AMD for multi GPU setups though...they require Crossfire profiles for every game and AMD is very slow to react. The only reason to go AMD is if you're going with a multi monitor setup and require more VRAM than NVidia.

You're going to have to wait for the game to come out to find out though. I'll be posting performance numbers for my SLI setup once it comes out.

My suggestion to you is this: get a system with a single GTX 580. Only after you play around with it for a bit should you make the choice of getting a second GPU. You don't need to get ready for the game ahead of time. When it comes out, you can play it with one GPU and gauge for yourself whether you need the power or not. Or hey, maybe you'll be playing anoter game before that that might tempt you into getting a second card.

Really though, multi GPU setups are unnecessary for 99% of cases. I only got a second GTX 570 because I wanted to try SLI and see just how much I could crank out of some games. I don't regret it, but there are times I wonder if I would have just been better off getting a single GTX 580 with an aftermarket cooler. The multi GPU setup is overkill in 90-95% of the games I play. In the few others, it really shows it's worth.
 

cackhyena

Member
All I need is a 300 gb Intel ( I just trust them) SSD to come out and at a reasonable price for me to start the building process. The Sandy Bridge motherboard thing is pretty much settled, right? Anyone have an idea of the prices Intel might be releasing those size SSDs at? I just paid over 200 for a 120 gb one a while back. Expensive, but man, there is no going back for me.
 

scoobs

Member
Fuck ya! Gotta love the feeling of just throwin down $600 on new PC hardware :) got a 2nd gtx470, 2nd 23" 1080p monitor and a new motherboard. Life is good
 

TheExodu5

Banned
cackhyena said:
All I need is a 300 gb Intel ( I just trust them) SSD to come out and at a reasonable price for me to start the building process. The Sandy Bridge motherboard thing is pretty much settled, right? Anyone have an idea of the prices Intel might be releasing those size SSDs at? I just paid over 200 for a 120 gb one a while back. Expensive, but man, there is no going back for me.
I wouldn't expect the Intel G3 anytime soon, since their 510 series just came out yesterday. They're charging $615 for 250GB on the 510, which is a pretty terrible price considering it's performance vs Vertex 3.
 

Shambles

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Paches-EJ- said:
Pulling the trigger soon on http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001NPCTBO/?tag=neogaf0e-20

I have Prime so shipping is free and is about $30 cheaper than Newegg. Any last minute warnings about the particular model?

That is the original vertex drive. I think for 50$ more the Vertex 3 series will be a much better choice for you once they start showing up on the shelves. The performance of the Vertex 3 will absolutely destroy the orginal Vertex on a SATA 6gbps connection and it will give 8GB more capacity to easy the 50$ price increase as well. Who knows maybe they'll drop in price one the Intel G3 drives start showing on shelves as well (We hope :S).
 

cackhyena

Member
TheExodu5 said:
I wouldn't expect the Intel G3 anytime soon, since their 510 series just came out yesterday. They're charging $615 for 250GB on the 510, which is a pretty terrible price considering it's performance vs Vertex 3.

Ugh, that's insane. Honestly, 250gb is all I'd need for space, but that shit's gotta come down a good 400 for me to consider it. Maybe I should just stick with my 120gb SSD for the new build and do an image swap when an affordable upgrade is possible. I've still got room on it, so I'm not hurting for space.
 

Paches

Member
Thanks for the info guys, this is why I signed up for GAF :)

I think I will hold and see then on the Vertex 3 drives for now then.
 

RedSwirl

Junior Member
Lastly lastly, are there any complications I might encounter with the switch to an ATI card? Any games or things that favor Nvidia?
 
mkenyon said:
The Ripjaws. Super low latency. What kind of RAM does your mobo accept? If you can get DDR3 1600 I'd suggest that.

I don't know I haven't brought one yet. I'm pre-buying everything as cheap as possible when its on sale if that makes sense.

Is 1333 to 1600 that big of an upgrade?
 

Red

Member
RedSwirl said:
Lastly lastly, are there any complications I might encounter with the switch to an ATI card? Any games or things that favor Nvidia?
AMD cards don't support PhysX at all and don't have the 3D support Nvidia does. There are a few games that favor Nvidia (Cryostasis and Crysis come to mind), but then some games favor the red so it really balances out.
 

RedSwirl

Junior Member
Crunched said:
AMD cards don't support PhysX at all and don't have the 3D support Nvidia does. There are a few games that favor Nvidia (Cryostasis and Crysis come to mind), but then some games favor the red so it really balances out.

What are the most reputable 3rd party brands? The search on Newegg puts me between PowerColor, HIS, XFX, Biostar, Asus, and Gigabyte.
 

Raistlin

Post Count: 9999
BrettWeir said:
Just a warning/heads up.

PowerColor has just released their PCS++ 6950. On their site, and in several reviews, they state that it comes with a switch that will unlock all of the shaders and OC it to 880 mhz. I was a sucker and fell for this false advertisement. The retail version does NOT unlock any shaders, nor is it possible to unlock/flash the shaders the regular way. Stick with a reference that can unlock and pay $40 less.

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141262

This REALLY sucks. I'm just starting to research it though ... any possibility there is truth to the following?

http://www.overclock.net/12596321-post16.html
UPDATE*** just talked to a powercolor rep and they said that the card does unlock... Only the PCS++ will, I gave them the model number and they verified. He said that you need to be running the latest version of cpuz for this show up. Also when you switch the bios you have to reinstall the drivers for the bios to switch correctly... Please someone with this card test this. He was very curtain these are guaranteed to unlock shaders, but will not 'flash'

Isn't that how the normal flashed versions work? You need to reinstall the drivers for it to take effect? If so, no biggie then. Obviously the hope was we could easily switch between the two, but if it's just a config issue I'm not concerned.

Here's hoping. I mean shit, they actively advertised the shaders: http://www.powercolor.com/Global/News.asp?id=1083
 

Trojita

Rapid Response Threadmaker
Tried to make a topic on OT asking but perhaps this is a better place

I was thinking about buying a T110 or T310 home server from Dell. Aside from the Chassis is there really anything much different between the two? If anyone has them, are they loud?

My coworker recommended loading VMWARE ESXi on there and then loading Server OS from there.

Is this the best thing to do? Any OS's to use in general?

I was looking to use my server for

Organize Files
Server that an HTPC can pull files from to play
Practice on Unix, Linux, Windows as an Administrator so that I have more skills for my resume. Like Red Hat.

Possibly have an iTunes repository that keeps my library if that's possible?
 
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