• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

"I need a New PC!" 2011 Edition of SSD's for everyone! |OT|

Status
Not open for further replies.
M

mkenyon

Banned
Flying_Phoenix said:
Will this power supply be safe for an overclocked 2500k and 6850?

Should it run fine with next generation GPU's and CPU's?
Click to expand...

Yes, but be warned, the cables on that are fairly short. If you want to do decent cable management in a mid-tower or full-tower case, you will need extensions.

Flying_Phoenix said:
I don't know I haven't brought one yet. I'm pre-buying everything as cheap as possible when its on sale if that makes sense.

Is 1333 to 1600 that big of an upgrade?
Click to expand...

Yes. Additionally, don't buy the RAM until you buy your mobo. It'll include a list of compatible RAM from which you should choose.
 
C

cackhyena

Member
mkenyon said:
Yes, but be warned, the cables on that are fairly short. If you want to do decent cable management in a mid-tower or full-tower case, you will need extensions.



Yes. Additionally, don't buy the RAM until you buy your mobo. It'll include a list of compatible RAM from which you should choose.
Click to expand...


That's nice to know.
 
S

Shambles

Member
cackhyena said:
That's nice to know.
Click to expand...

Unless you are trying to use extremely fast or extremely slow outdated memory don't worry about the compatibility list. RAM is RAM. I've never had a problem sticking whatever memory in any motherboard i've used, the lists are fairly meaningless and are only there for comfort peoples pointless worrying.
 
L

LegoDad

Member
Alright, I think something is wrong, or I have RealTemp setup wrong. My CPU idles at 43C, that seems way too hot to me. I even took my OC off, and still get the same reading. (went from 47C to 43C).

Did I put the thermal compound on wrong and that's why it isn't cooling off correct, or is it the crappy cooler. (Don't think it's the cooler, the i7's come with one that looks like the Coolermaster 212.)

Thanks.
 
L

LegoDad

Member
TheExodu5 said:
Don't worry about idle temp readings. They're inaccurate. Just make sure it's not getting to hot under load.
Click to expand...

Thanks. Trying to decide if I really need a 4.0ghz OC at this time. Everything seems to be GPU based unless I'm running a ps2/wii emulator.
 
·

·feist·

Member
caliblue15 said:
Thanks. Trying to decide if I really need a 4.0ghz OC at this time. Everything seems to be GPU based unless I'm running a ps2/wii emulator.
Click to expand...
Besides, don't you have an i7 970 that's being cooled by one of Intel's 92mm HSFs? There's only so much performance you can get from that.
 
MisterNoisy

MisterNoisy

Member
Flying_Phoenix said:
I just ordered the RAM, Power Supply, and Case. :)

I know you said wait for the RAM but it's compatible with almost any motherboard including the one I have my eye on. Also I don't want to wait until the sale ends. :(
Click to expand...

Good times! Always exciting when the parts start coming in. :)

I'd strongly recommend ordering one of these, or a similar product from FrozenCPU, etc., since I have no doubt that mkenyon is right about the cables on that PSU being short. If you want to spend a bit less, there's always the unsleeved units like this.

Additionally, since that case only comes with one fan, I'd look into adding a 120mm case fan for use in the intake mount in the chassis.
 
Z

Zilch

Banned
Is there much monitor recommendation or discussion in this thread? I need some recommendations.

Anyhow, the info in the OP will come in handy for me very soon.
 
L

LegoDad

Member
·feist· said:
Besides, don't you have an i7 970 that's being cooled by one of Intel's 92mm HSFs? There's only so much performance you can get from that.
Click to expand...

Thought it would keep it cooler than that.. it's works, i guess that's what matters.
 
T

TheExodu5

Banned
There's no reason to be obsessed with temps. It idling at 50 won't hurt it. As long as you're below spec when OCed, you're fine. You can usually go up quite a bit over spec and still be relatively safe.
 
L

LaserBuddha

Member
Quick question. Right now this is what I'm working with:

Phenom II x6 1075T (3.0ghz, 3.5ghz in "Turbo)
8gb ram
Radeon 6950 2gb (unlocked into stock 6970)


How much of a bottleneck is my proc? I know clock speed is supposedly everything when it comes to cpu's + gaming performance. I can't overclock the proc due to the Dell motherboard I'm using.

This would lead into another question I have in mind: If I wanted to resolve whatever bottleneck I might have, do I buy another motherboard to overlock the Phenom (which might mean another case as well, since I dont know just how proprietary this Dell stuff is), or do I just go the extra mile and get a better processor while I'm at it?


EDIT: Also another quick question, is 53°C idle / 80°C under load OK for my card?
 
Y

yodathesoda

Member
What do you all think of this build? Based purely on speculation, will this be a solid Battlefield 3 machine? Any suggestions?

-Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $54.99
-SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive $54.99
-SAMSUNG 2333T High Glossy Black 23" Full HD WideScreen LCD Monitor $179.99
-ASUS M4A87TD EVO AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard $109.99
-MSI N560GTX-TI Twin Frozr II/OC GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video $249.99
-CORSAIR Enthusiast Series CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire$89.99
-Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Desktop Memory$85.99
-AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Six-Core$199.99
-LG Black 10X Blu-ray Burner - Bulk SATA WH10LS30 LightScribe Support - OEM $89.99

Subtotal: $1,115.91
 
T

TheExodu5

Banned
LabouredSubterfuge said:
How much of a performance increase does a SSD represent? And is it worth going SATA III?
Click to expand...
In terms of Windows browsing and general application usage: an enormous difference.

If you ave a Sata III motherboard, then go ahead and get a Sata III drive like an Intel 510, Corsair P3, or OCZ Vertex 3. Otherwise, an Intel G2 or Vertex 2 is fine.
 
C

cackhyena

Member
LabouredSubterfuge said:
How much of a performance increase does a SSD represent? And is it worth going SATA III?
Click to expand...

It's nothing you can't live without. If you are like me, running things like PS, Painter and heavy programs of the like drawing in big pictures and such, it's very nice. From sleep, my comp running Windows 7 is ready to go in literally 2 to 5 seconds. Restarting or just plain starting up is waaaaaay quicker than it ever was on my old HDD.

Every single program I run from iTunes to running Security Essentials to Windows Media Player is really fast in comparison. I personally don't want to go back. Don't know a thing about Sata III.
 
T

TheExodu5

Banned
LaserBuddha said:
Quick question. Right now this is what I'm working with:

Phenom II x6 1075T (3.0ghz, 3.5ghz in "Turbo)
8gb ram
Radeon 6950 2gb (unlocked into stock 6970)


How much of a bottleneck is my proc? I know clock speed is supposedly everything when it comes to cpu's + gaming performance. I can't overclock the proc due to the Dell motherboard I'm using.

This would lead into another question I have in mind: If I wanted to resolve whatever bottleneck I might have, do I buy another motherboard to overlock the Phenom (which might mean another case as well, since I dont know just how proprietary this Dell stuff is), or do I just go the extra mile and get a better processor while I'm at it?


EDIT: Also another quick question, is 53°C idle / 80°C under load OK for my card?
Click to expand...
Those temps are fine.

The processor will only be a bottleneck in games that don't take advantage of multicore CPUs, such ad Starcraft 2. I wouldn't upgrade from that though...it's still a really damned good processor. Give it an overclock and you're set.
 
M

mkenyon

Banned
yodathesoda said:
What do you all think of this build? Based purely on speculation, will this be a solid Battlefield 3 machine? Any suggestions?

-Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $54.99
-SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive $54.99
-SAMSUNG 2333T High Glossy Black 23" Full HD WideScreen LCD Monitor $179.99
-ASUS M4A87TD EVO AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard $109.99
-MSI N560GTX-TI Twin Frozr II/OC GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video $249.99
-CORSAIR Enthusiast Series CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire$89.99
-Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Desktop Memory$85.99
-AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Six-Core$199.99
-LG Black 10X Blu-ray Burner - Bulk SATA WH10LS30 LightScribe Support - OEM $89.99

Subtotal: $1,115.91
Click to expand...

If you're building it just to play Battlefield 3 like it shows in the trailers, wait to build this before release to buy all the newest and best. No one has any idea what the system requirements will be like and how current systems will handle it. Now, don't take this as gospel by any means, but just judging on how nice BF3 looks, I'd assume that the system you have laid out there would not run it amazingly well. I like getting 60-120fps on whatever setting I'm using because I've never been a console guy, however. I like getting 100-180 in competitive MP games.

If you're trying to build an all-round good gaming rig, you've got yourself a decent set of parts there, outside of the Antec case and RAM. I strongly suggest staying away from Antec cases, bad build quality, no longevity, and you're paying way more for parts that just aren't worth it.
 
B

BloodySinner

Banned
Since my mother is in need of a computer, I believe it's time for me to give her my current setup and build myself a new system. Any recommendations for a sub-$120 case? This is what I've got so far:

bcXxe.gif
 
M

mkenyon

Banned
Your motherboard doesnt support triple channel RAM. You need dual channel.

I don't see any proc listed.

You'll get a lot more life out of an 1155 board with a 2500/2500k proc. This is coming from a guy who has two AM3 systems and is building a third right now. But building is a hobby, I don't always look for long life.

Also, check out the Fractal cases. I loves them very much.
 
L

LaserBuddha

Member
TheExodu5 said:
Those temps are fine.

The processor will only be a bottleneck in games that don't take advantage of multicore CPUs, such ad Starcraft 2. I wouldn't upgrade from that though...it's still a really damned good processor. Give it an overclock and you're set.
Click to expand...

Thanks!
 
Y

yodathesoda

Member
mkenyon said:
If you're building it just to play Battlefield 3 like it shows in the trailers, wait to build this before release to buy all the newest and best. No one has any idea what the system requirements will be like and how current systems will handle it. Now, don't take this as gospel by any means, but just judging on how nice BF3 looks, I'd assume that the system you have laid out there would not run it amazingly well. I like getting 60-120fps on whatever setting I'm using because I've never been a console guy, however. I like getting 100-180 in competitive MP games.

If you're trying to build an all-round good gaming rig, you've got yourself a decent set of parts there, outside of the Antec case and RAM. I strongly suggest staying away from Antec cases, bad build quality, no longevity, and you're paying way more for parts that just aren't worth it.
Click to expand...

Much appreciated. Think I'll hold off on a new PC for a couple months.
 
S

Saige

I must do better.
Does anyone know of a good guide for overclocking a Q6600? Going back and reading this thread makes it seem like I can get a lot more power out of mine, but I know absolutely nothing about overclocking and nothing I’m finding about it really explains it in simple terms of what to do. I’m running this on an Asus P5K board.
 
Ecto311

Ecto311

Member
Microcenter in Denver had shitloads of 1155 asus pro boards instock today. And major difference between the h67 and p67 boards to justify the 100 difference?
 
LiquidMetal14

LiquidMetal14

hide your water-based mammals
Ecto311 said:
Microcenter in Denver had shitloads of 1155 asus pro boards instock today. And major difference between the h67 and p67 boards to justify the 100 difference?
Click to expand...
Other than overclocking and a few things no. The real answer is hell yes if you want to overclock and make those 2500/2600k CPU's scream. The OC experience with my 2500k has been phenomenal. It's all that and then some.
 
R

Raistlin

Post Count: 9999
Just got an email from newegg. Limited shipments of replacement sandybrige mobo's are hitting the warehouse. They will be replaced in the order they were originally sold.
 
Q

Quicksilver4648

Member
So, GAF, I am a long time lurker but only recently signed up. (This is my first post!) I have been following this thread for a while but as a console gamer primarily I haven't paid too much attention to the specifics of new hardware. However, after seeing the Battlefield 3 videos I suddenly feel motivated to make a capable gaming PC. I am currently using a 3 year-old laptop which suits me for 99% of all things (other than games).

Note: I realize BF3 is still under development so specific specs for that title are just guesses and assumptions, nothing more. But, since the going talk is that the BF3 demo was run using a single GTX 580 I assume further optimizations will lower the entry requirement in GPUs.

Your Current Specs: HP dv2550se laptop with Core 2 Duo @ 1.50 GHz, 3 GB DDR2 RAM, and integrated graphics.
Budget: <$1000, located in the US
Main Use: Gaming, some emulation, HD video capturing/editing
Monitor Resolution: 1080p 21" monitor (this wont be upgraded)
List SPECIFIC games that you MUST be able to play: Dolphin emulation for the Wii/GCN, Battlefield: BC2, Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit, Crysis, TF2, and Minecraft (lol)
Are reusing any parts?: Nope
When will you build?: Sometime in April, possibly as late as May. I am in no real rush.
Will you be overclocking?: I want to say no, but I most likely will.

I have already done some research of parts and I would really appreciate it if you could give some input/suggestions. I think all of my pieces should work together but since I have never made a PC before I just want to play it safe.

Case: COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 II - $60
MB: Asus P8P67 Pro - $180?
CPU: Intel i5-2500k - $230
GPU: GIGABYTE GV-N560OC-1GI GeForce GTX 560 Ti - $250
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws F3-10666CL9D-8GBXL 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) - $85
HDD: Western Digital Caviar Black 500 GB 7200 RPM - $60
Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST - $19
PSU: CORSAIR TX750 V2 750W - $120

Total: $1,004 in Newegg prices. I have an Amazon Prime account so I would probably get a number of items from them since I get free two-day shipping.

A couple of thing I want to point out:
1) CPU - I will probably overclock it to 4GHz and nothing more.
2) GPU - I am unsure if I should get something much cheaper and weaker and wait till BF3 and upgrade to the new hotness. Or, should I get the GTX 560 Ti now, playing current games very well, and just hope that BF3 doesn't have specs that are through the roof. And if they are I would need to get another GTX 560 Ti and use it though SLI.
3) RAM: I jumped back and forth a thousand times searching for the best RAM per dollar. I ended up just picking these because Newegg has "Designed Specifically for Intel Sandy Bridge CPUs, H67 and P67 Platforms" in the description.
4) HDD - I really, really wanted to get an SSD but they are just way too expensive. I was even going to try and sneak in a 40GB SSD just for the OS but ended up cutting it due to budget reason. And I don't need a 1TB internal drive because I have an external one right now.
5) PSU: I know 750W is overkill for those specs I listed but I just wanted to make sure I had enough for another GTX 560 Ti if I did go the SLI route and when I overclock the CPU to 4GHz.

I would really appreciate it if anyone could comment if the hardware I picked out would work without issue. Any suggestions or comments are appreciated. Like I said, this would be my first build so I want to make sure I do it right. I have already learned a lot about hardware over the past few weeks.
 
M

mug

Member
ShdwDrake said:
Whats the best Nvidia graphics card for $150 - $200?
Click to expand...
I'm guessing the GTX 460 would be the best bet. eVGA is basically Nvidia's oem manufacturer and is usually rated the best and most reliable. You may find some other models out there cheaper with rebates.
 
T

teh_pwn

"Saturated fat causes heart disease as much as Brawndo is what plants crave."
Solid state is worth every damn penny. Rebooting windows takes like 12 seconds.

Computers have gotten so much easier. Remember when you had to bust out the old PS2 keyboards to get into BIOS because the wired USB driver was too slow to load on shitty mobos? Yeah. Today it's all wireless entering GUI based BIOS. So much better.
 
K

keeblerdrow

Member
teh_pwn said:
Computers have gotten so much easier. Remember when you had to bust out the old PS2 keyboards to get into BIOS because the wired USB driver was too slow to load on shitty mobos? Yeah. Today it's all wireless entering GUI based BIOS. So much better.
Click to expand...

You make me feel old.
 
L

LegoDad

Member
teh_pwn said:
Solid state is worth every damn penny. Rebooting windows takes like 12 seconds.

Computers have gotten so much easier. Remember when you had to bust out the old PS2 keyboards to get into BIOS because the wired USB driver was too slow to load on shitty mobos? Yeah. Today it's all wireless entering GUI based BIOS. So much better.
Click to expand...

How does your system post that fast?

Once the windows loading comes up it's instant for me, but the system post takes forever.
 
T

teh_pwn

"Saturated fat causes heart disease as much as Brawndo is what plants crave."
caliblue15 said:
How does your system post that fast?

Once the windows loading comes up it's instant for me, but the system post takes forever.
Click to expand...

It may be more like 15-20 seconds. It takes about 8 seconds to get through RAID/MSI post. But the windows animation only makes it about 1/2 way through before the desktop shows up.
 
S

slidewinder

Banned
So beyond boot-up, does a system drive SSD often make for noticeably better responsiveness during regular usage? Like by having swap on it do things come back to normal faster after exiting a game that used a lot of memory (causing system .dlls and resident programs to get swapped out) and things like that?
 
M

MikeE21286

Member
Ecto311 said:
Microcenter in Denver had shitloads of 1155 asus pro boards instock today. And major difference between the h67 and p67 boards to justify the 100 difference?
Click to expand...

I bought my ASUS Pro board at microcenter...if I go there will they just replace the board for me and give me a B3 version? That's all I really want...
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Similar threads

can anyone help me/give advice for new pc?
0
157
yansolo replied
I asked ChatGPT to build a PC thats equivalent to the PS5 Pro, this was it's response
Analysis 2 3 4
150
14K
Kupfer replied
The official unofficial PC Gamer "I have X performance issue with Y game" F.A.Q.
0
266
Nickolaidas replied
Memoirs of a PC NOOB! My journey into the PC world
2 3 4
151
4K
Radical_3d replied
Older Gamer new to PC building. Help!?
40
1K
winjer replied
Top Bottom