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Kadey

Mrs. Harvey
Would changing from a 4870x2 (sick and tired of the power save message and kmdag bsod) to a GTX 560 TI benefit me? I have an Nforce MB to begin with.
 

mkenyon

Banned
Kadey said:
Would changing from a 4870x2 (sick and tired of the power save message and kmdag bsod) to a GTX 560 TI benefit me? I have an Nforce MB to begin with.

If they are 4870 1GB cards, probably a little boost. If they are 4870 512MB cards, pretty significant. 2x48701GB is roughly equal (but slightly worse) than a 5870. A 560 is roughly equal to a 5870.

You'll have a lot better performance in games that aren't optimized for Crossfire though.
 

teh_pwn

"Saturated fat causes heart disease as much as Brawndo is what plants crave."
Somnid said:
Alright I just bought an Asus P8 P67Pro Mobo and a 2600K.

Now what to do with the GPU. What should I do for say $500? I was thinking 2x 6870s, I thought these came in 2GB flavors but maybe I'm mistaken? Anyway this modern GPU numbering confuses the hell out of me, any help is appreciated.

I got 2x6950 for $550. It's considerably faster than 2x6870.
 

teh_pwn

"Saturated fat causes heart disease as much as Brawndo is what plants crave."
Flying_Phoenix said:
Where are you people getting these Asus boards from?

I got a new B3 MSI mobo from newegg. I bookmarked "P67 motherboard" and checked it every 20 minutes or so when using a computer. I managed to get the MSI board within 2 minutes of it selling out. It was only in stock for about an hour.
 

Kadey

Mrs. Harvey
mkenyon said:
If they are 4870 1GB cards, probably a little boost. If they are 4870 512MB cards, pretty significant. 2x48701GB is roughly equal (but slightly worse) than a 5870. A 560 is roughly equal to a 5870.

You'll have a lot better performance in games that aren't optimized for Crossfire though.

Sounds like performance is pretty close.
 

mclaren777

Member
I swapped the primary boot drive to a SATA 2.0 port and it still gave me the "Disk Read Error" message, but when I swapped back to the original SATA 3.0 port I was greeted with this message...

VDz9Ml.jpg
 

Ecto311

Member
Somnid said:
Microcenter in Denver, CO.

Do they have anymore? I was going to head up this weekend but the phone support / web site are dog shit for that store?

I was thinking about getting the h67 and i5-2500 would i see huge differences between the pro board and k processor if i wasn't overclocking?
 

n0n44m

Member
mclaren777 said:
Everything is stock/default and my SSD is connected to a SATA 3.0 port.

I can F8 to select boot source but putting in the Windows disc didn't immediately give a repair option.

the "weak" Intel SATA 3 ports? In that case try the Intel SATA6 or the Marvell ports instead

you could also switch/replace the cables (not likely it'll help much)


but really unless the SATA port just died, I think the problem will be with the SSD/HDD :(

the "disk read error" error is pretty serious as far as I know, if it was just some data corruption you would at least see Windows7 repair pop-up or something...

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mclaren777 said:
I swapped the primary boot drive to a SATA 2.0 port and it still gave me the "Disk Read Error" message, but when I swapped back to the original SATA 3.0 port I was greeted with this message...

VDz9Ml.jpg

OK that's at least data corruption ... I guess the quick fix would be reinstalling Windows but honestly if BOOTMGR just disappears for no reason I wouldn't trust the HDD/SSD

try to hook it up to another pc and run something like HDTune PRO or Crystaldisk Info
 

Somnid

Member
Ecto311 said:
Do they have anymore? I was going to head up this weekend but the phone support / web site are dog shit for that store?

I was thinking about getting the h67 and i5-2500 would i see huge differences between the pro board and k processor if i wasn't overclocking?

They might if you're quick. There were about 5 left and a maybe 3 of the h67 versions this morning.
 

n0n44m

Member
If swapping cables/ports doesn't solve anything ->

You could try to install an OS (my Win7 disc doesn't need activation first 30 days) to the other HDD and see if you can access it from there, or if you can read it out using Crystaldisk Info/HDtune PRO

or if you don't mind losing the data (if it's not lost already..) you could then try to run Windows 7 installer, format it and reinstall (if it recognizes it in the first place) , but even if it will work I wouldn't trust such an HDD/SSD

but yeah this seems RMA time :/
 

Dynamic3

Member
Going to re-ask these, any help would be appreciated:

How hard will it be to swap my boot drive (from a Vertex 2 that I ordered, to a Vertex 3 when it comes out)? I assume the BIOS settings will remain the same, so is it anything beyond a reinstall of the OS and apps?

During the 40m how-to video in the op, he went too fast when listing the initial BIOS settings (like ACHI), is there a text guide for what settings I should use? Especially if I want to minimize boot time.
 

n0n44m

Member
Dynamic3 said:
Going to re-ask these, any help would be appreciated:

How hard will it be to swap my boot drive (from a Vertex 2 that I ordered, to a Vertex 3 when it comes out)? I assume the BIOS settings will remain the same, so is it anything beyond a reinstall of the OS and apps?

During the 40m how-to video in the op, he went too fast when listing the initial BIOS settings (like ACHI), is there a text guide for what settings I should use? Especially if I want to minimize boot time.

swap drive: nah just reinstall Win+Apps and you're done
you could theoretically copy/ghost the data from one disk to the next but I haven't really looked into it ... thought that Crucial had a usb device+software tool available with their SSD starter packages so you could easily transfer data from your old disk

BIOS settings: Everything stock first, but before booting/installing Windows I personally always disable all on board devices I don't use. Parallel port/Firewire/Audio/Extra Sata controller and so on, I've got them all disabled. Just to make sure Windows doesn't load any unnecessary drivers for stuff I don't use.

For fast boot you'd want to disable stuff like the Complete memory check [quick check is fine, takes a second or two], disable Full screen boot and all other checks. On my new Asus board I can even select how many seconds it should display the bios POST screen, so set that to lowest as well if you have the option.

(generally all the extra (hdd) controllers with their own boot sequence take the most time when booting, so disabling these like I said should give you the most gains)
 

teh_pwn

"Saturated fat causes heart disease as much as Brawndo is what plants crave."
On second thought I think one 128 GB SSD as the OS drive is good enough. I've been installing other games on my RAID1, and while the install time is a little long, the run-time performance isn't much slower. I think the combination of DirectX and system files loading from the SSD in parallel to 2x traditional HDD read speeds for game files is adequate for now.

Also steam is growing on me. I hated it at first because I saw it as unnecessary and it made manual control harder (still hate how I can't seem to control game updates). But having 2 PCs now and multiple games, I like how I still own my games on all PCs and the library organization.

/livejournal
 

nib95

Banned
Worrying. Think I'll wait out for the next slew of motherboards and cpu's to come out before jumping on board. My i7 920@3.9ghz is still doing me well. Sandybridge does look mighty tasty though...
 

knitoe

Member
Veins said:
Is there a list of Sandy Bridge motherboards that aren't borked?
Which ever MB has the Ver B3 label would have the fixed Intel chipset. They are starting to appear at retail.
 

RedSwirl

Junior Member
I just ordered the HD 6850 and an Antec 550w PSU to go with it. I really, REALLY hope these will fit in my Stock Dell XPS 420. They should get here in the middle of next week.
 

golem

Member
Say I have $5-600 to spend on a video card or SLI.. whats the best bang for the buck? Is there anything coming over the horizon soon?
 
My computer is running fine now on the 2 working SATA ports of my P8P67. I'm kinda worried that if I get the replacement, I might screw something up taking everything off my old one and putting them on my new one. Don't really foresee myself using more than 2 SATA devices at once. Should I take the chance?
 
golem said:
Say I have $5-600 to spend on a video card or SLI.. whats the best bang for the buck? Is there anything coming over the horizon soon?

the GTX 590, which is dual 580s on a single card. should launch sometime this month.
 

nib95

Banned
golem said:
Say I have $5-600 to spend on a video card or SLI.. whats the best bang for the buck? Is there anything coming over the horizon soon?

You're the one with the sexy M3 aren't you? And soon you're going to have a GTX 590. Well played sir, well played! *Tips hat*

P.S, what sort of MPG do you get on that bad boy, and have you chipped it yet? Think you'll be surprised out how much of an improvement the Unichips make. Better speed, torque, rev balance along with more power and, believe it or, better fuel efficiency.
 

golem

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nib95 said:
You're the one with the sexy M3 aren't you? And soon you're going to have a GTX 590. Well played sir, well played! *Tips hat*
My 8800gtx is definitely on its way out, it served well for 4 years though. Seems like it might be a good time to go for the high end again, most people are guessing the next gen is coming next year at the earliest? I just saw the 6990 previews with 2x8 pcie connectors, crazy stuff

P.S, what sort of MPG do you get on that bad boy, and have you chipped it yet? Think you'll be surprised out how much of an improvement the Unichips make. Better speed, torque, rev balance along with more power and, believe it or, better fuel efficiency.
Hmm I think I average about 14mpg, which is pretty terrible. I havent chipped yet, not sure if I want to go down that road yet (have a pretty modded S4, know the guys at GIAC and theyre always trying to get me to pick up their M3 chip). I have heard there are good gains from chipping though
 
I already posted this in the Alan Wake thread, but it got drowned out due to some retarded debate, so here goes again-



I've been doing a lot of PC gaming lately (on my comfy couch, mind you), and I have been connecting my Windows 7 gaming laptop to my 32 inch LCD Polaroid TV through an HDMI cable.

However, I booted it up tonight without being connected to my television only to find out that my Windows start panel taskbar and Internet Explorer look Windows 98-ish.

Does anyone know if the reason is because I removed the HDMI cable? Also, I am unable to turn my laptop's speakers on.

Is Windows Explorer acting up on me? If So, how do I fix it?
 
Shed_a_Ninja said:
I already posted this in the Alan Wake thread, but it got drowned out due to some retarded debate, so here goes again-



I've been doing a lot of PC gaming lately (on my comfy couch, mind you), and I have been connecting my Windows 7 gaming laptop to my 32 inch LCD Polaroid TV through an HDMI cable.

However, I booted it up tonight without being connected to my television only to find out that my Windows start panel taskbar and Internet Explorer look Windows 98-ish.

Does anyone know if the reason is because I removed the HDMI cable? Also, I am unable to turn my laptop's speakers on.

Is Windows Explorer acting up on me? If So, how do I fix it?

What.

Also, check your windows theme by right clicking on the desktop and hitting personalize. Windows 7 basic looks like windows 98, if it is that just change it to an aero theme.
 
Conflict NZ said:
What.

Also, check your windows theme by right clicking on the desktop and hitting personalize. Windows 7 basic looks like windows 98, if it is that just change it to an aero theme.

Hmm... I just checked, and it's not because of the theme. I didn't even fool around with those settings.

A few things must have been unchecked in Windows Explorer's "Services" folder, now that I think about it.
 

teh_pwn

"Saturated fat causes heart disease as much as Brawndo is what plants crave."
Veins said:
Is there a list of Sandy Bridge motherboards that aren't borked?

B3 stepping.

But if you get a high end board that has 6-8 SATA 6Gb, and 2 SATA 3Gb, you could just get the buggy one and not use the SATA 3Gb.
 

teh_pwn

"Saturated fat causes heart disease as much as Brawndo is what plants crave."
golem said:
Say I have $5-600 to spend on a video card or SLI.. whats the best bang for the buck? Is there anything coming over the horizon soon?

Today, 6950 CF. Tomorrow, it could be GTX 590, AMD 6990, GTX 670 SLI, or AMD 7850 CF.

I have 6950 CF. At 1080, it pays nearly everything at max settings at solid 60 fps. Only exception so far is Metro 2033 (somewhere around 40-50, I'd have to measure).
 
So I'm planning on getting the AMD Phenom II X6.

I've heard a lot of great things about it and wondering if it's a keeper for gaming. Also, pretty future proof?
 
shinobi602 said:
So I'm planning on getting the AMD Phenom II X6.

I've heard a lot of great things about it and wondering if it's a keeper for gaming. Also, pretty future proof?

If you are going to overclock it is one of the better CPU's out there.
 
Flying_Phoenix said:
If you are going to overclock it is one of the better CPU's out there.

Ok nice to hear that! I've said before in other threads, I'm not PC savvy, this would be my first PC I build. I'm interested in overclocking, but don't want to mess anything up.

My first question of course would be, would overclocking be necessary with that CPU? I mean...are there games out there that would really push it beyond its limits?

Second question, Phenom II X6 uses the AM3 socket, is AMD planning to introduce a new socket anytime soon? I don't want to buy a new motherboard with that socket type if a new one's coming soon after...
 
shinobi602 said:
Ok nice to hear that! I've said before in other threads, I'm not PC savvy, this would be my first PC I build. I'm interested in overclocking, but don't want to mess anything up.

My first question of course would be, would overclocking be necessary with that CPU? I mean...are there games out there that would really push it beyond its limits?

Second question, Phenom II X6 uses the AM3 socket, is AMD planning to introduce a new socket anytime soon? I don't want to buy a new motherboard with that socket type if a new one's coming soon after...

While the X6 is a pretty powerful CPU it isn't the best out there. If you are looking for future proof go with the 2500K. And yes overclocking is recommended on that and it is very safe. As for pushing beyond its limits well in most games the only thing you have to worry about is the video card.

And from what I understand the AM3 sockets were suppose to be used for Bulldozer but that has been scrapped.

black_vegeta said:
If I wanted to get a i5 2500K SB, do I need to get a SB compatible mobo?

:|
 
Grimm Fandango said:
No that motherboard isn't okay. It must LGA 1155 socket type for Sandy Bridge.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...ption=&Ntk=&CFG=&SpeTabStoreType=&srchInDesc=

Only a few are available now due to the recall though.

And that Windows is fine.

Got it.

This MSI is looking pretty beefy.

I'll just wait for them to be available. Thanks for the info.

Flying_Phoenix said:

Cut me some slack please. I'm doing my best to understand this so I can build something nice.
 

mkenyon

Banned
shinobi602 said:
Ok nice to hear that! I've said before in other threads, I'm not PC savvy, this would be my first PC I build. I'm interested in overclocking, but don't want to mess anything up.

My first question of course would be, would overclocking be necessary with that CPU? I mean...are there games out there that would really push it beyond its limits?

Second question, Phenom II X6 uses the AM3 socket, is AMD planning to introduce a new socket anytime soon? I don't want to buy a new motherboard with that socket type if a new one's coming soon after...

Yes, it would be necessary. Most games out there aren't designed for as many cores as you'll have, so you'll need snappier cores. 3.9-4.0 is very attainable with a 1090 or 1100.

The AM3+ socket mobos are supposed to be out in a month or two. Procs will follow after. You'll be able to use AM3 procs in AM3+ mobos, but not AM3+ procs in AM3 mobos.
 
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