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"I need a New PC!" 2011 Edition of SSD's for everyone! |OT|
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momolicious
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Mr Nightman said:
But there really isnt a need for another fan. I like my computer quiet as can be and it seems to be working perfectly with one large fan in front as all my components even the 8800GT have been working for years even with alot of gaming. Another computer i have had had alot of fans and holes and was so noisy with no overclocking so it sounded very pointless and annoying.
Johnlenham
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Any Help kind sirs?
Your Current Specs: AMD dualcore junker, 8500GT I think? (whole thing is scrap!)
Budget: £600, 700 at a push, UK
Main Use: Gaming (wow,looking at Dragon age 2, Witcher 2 and so on) web and 1080p playback
Monitor Resolution: max my tv can run is 1280x1024 i think prob upgrade later to a proper monitor
List SPECIFIC games that you MUST be able to play: WoW on Ultra,Civ 5 Crisis 2 when its out erm Dragon Age 2
Are reusing any parts?: nope
When will you build?: When do you want your computer, do you need it in a week, can you wait a month or two? Can wait awhile if there's a decent reason, month or so I guess
Will you be overclocking?: Yes, No, Maybe(This means yes) Unlikely
I have to buy Win 7 as im still on Xp and ive been convinced into getting a SSD but anything prebuilt hits £800 because of the above two things :/
I have a friend that can build/help me build it if buying up parts is cheaper.
Any ideas?
Your Current Specs: AMD dualcore junker, 8500GT I think? (whole thing is scrap!)
Budget: £600, 700 at a push, UK
Main Use: Gaming (wow,looking at Dragon age 2, Witcher 2 and so on) web and 1080p playback
Monitor Resolution: max my tv can run is 1280x1024 i think prob upgrade later to a proper monitor
List SPECIFIC games that you MUST be able to play: WoW on Ultra,Civ 5 Crisis 2 when its out erm Dragon Age 2
Are reusing any parts?: nope
When will you build?: When do you want your computer, do you need it in a week, can you wait a month or two? Can wait awhile if there's a decent reason, month or so I guess
Will you be overclocking?: Yes, No, Maybe(This means yes) Unlikely
I have to buy Win 7 as im still on Xp and ive been convinced into getting a SSD but anything prebuilt hits £800 because of the above two things :/
I have a friend that can build/help me build it if buying up parts is cheaper.
Any ideas?
Grimm Fandango
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mrklaw said:
Ah right, completely forgot about the Marvell ones. Thanks.
I might just hold off on the RMA.
evil solrac v3.0 said:
How's this one? Samsung HD103SJ
How does it compare with this WD: Western Digital WD10EARS?
Did you check the OP?h3ro said:
500GBs are still relatively overpriced due to underproduction, so I wouldn't really consider one. Samsung still has the performance lead. For 7200rpm and 1TB, you have the Samsung F3, and for 2TB at 5400rpm, there's the Samsung f4. While I still wouldn't use one as an OS drive, the F4 is fairly fast, and perfect for storage. WD's Black drives are also very good. What you lose in speed compared to the Samsungs, you make up for in warranty.
shinobi602
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GHG said:
So the AM3+ CPUs will work on an AM3 mobo?
Do you know if AM3+ mobos are coming out too?
Mr Nightman
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You can always get a case fan controller too, to help lower rpm if noise is an issue, just saying giving your components as much air as possible is great for them. Even my two fans on highest speed are extremely quiet.momolicious said:
EDIT: You would probably be better putting the front fan in the back of the case as an exhaust so it can help get the warm air out instead of draw air in
shinobi602 said:
AM3+/Bulldozer 1 CPUs are not compatible with AM3.CcrooK said:
As for the Phenom swap, going from X4 to X6 at the present is a questionable "upgrade" at the present. You definitely want to wait for the upcoming tech, and also see how it compares to Intel.
The only way that Bulldozer chips will work on 800 series chipset is if you buy one of the upcoming 890 boards that have an AM3+ socket combined with the older chipset.
·feist· said:
Thanks for the info.
Amazon has the HD103SJ listed at 5400rpm while all other sources including Samsung's site have it listed at 7200rpm. It's probably just a listing error, correct? Not a different model or spec?
They have one listed for around $62 with Prime shipping and I'm thinking of ordering it.
Yeah, it's an error. Great drive, particularly at that price. The newer F4s are a bit faster, but iirc, the 7200rpm variety still isn't available above 640GB or so.h3ro said:
And from what you where asking before, these are bare drives. So, unlike the boxed ones, you don't get a cable. Just the HDD, some documentation, and screws that (usually) come inside of a plastic casing. Some just come in the anti-static wrap and/or a plain plastic bag.
Thanks a lot feist, it's really appreciated. Putting in an order for the drive and some SATA cables now. 
One last question: Are these SATA cables OK? SATA Data Cable
One last question: Are these SATA cables OK? SATA Data Cable
NP.
If you live near a Micro Center, and don't feel like waiting for shipping, they have the F3 1TB for $60 even.
$59.99
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0340562
locations:
http://www.microcenter.com/at_the_stores/index.html
edit: Get some standard SATA II cables. For flexible routing, you may want to try the round ones like these...
...but any cheap ones, of whatever shape, will do.
If you live near a Micro Center, and don't feel like waiting for shipping, they have the F3 1TB for $60 even.
$59.99
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0340562
locations:
http://www.microcenter.com/at_the_stores/index.html
edit: Get some standard SATA II cables. For flexible routing, you may want to try the round ones like these...
...but any cheap ones, of whatever shape, will do.
I have a question about upgrading my PC:
I currently have:
- Motherboard ASUS P5Q
- C2D E8400 OC'd to 3.6GHz
- 4GB DDR2 1066
- Zotac Nvidia GTS250 512MB (as far as I know, it's a smaller redesign of the 9800GTX+)
Is it worth to upgrade to a better graphics card when I have the need to? This 100 baby I got a year and a half ago still manages to play mostly everything but Crysis and the likes on high or very high at 1080p, no AA (not needed on a 22" screen) and steady FPS, so I don't think I would be upgrading soon but just in case...
Or is the rest of the system a potential bottleneck for a current/next gen graphics card and I'd better look for a ful upgrade in case anything goes ka-put?
I currently have:
- Motherboard ASUS P5Q
- C2D E8400 OC'd to 3.6GHz
- 4GB DDR2 1066
- Zotac Nvidia GTS250 512MB (as far as I know, it's a smaller redesign of the 9800GTX+)
Is it worth to upgrade to a better graphics card when I have the need to? This 100 baby I got a year and a half ago still manages to play mostly everything but Crysis and the likes on high or very high at 1080p, no AA (not needed on a 22" screen) and steady FPS, so I don't think I would be upgrading soon but just in case...
Or is the rest of the system a potential bottleneck for a current/next gen graphics card and I'd better look for a ful upgrade in case anything goes ka-put?
Johnlenham said:
Edit 2:
ASUS H67 motherboard - £74
Intel i5 2500 retail - £150 (comes with cooler which will be fine if not over clocking)
2x2GB corsair ram - £38.50
1GB GTX 560 - £200
1TB samsung spinpoint - £40
Seasonic 520W PSU - £65
DVD-RW - £15
Case - take your pick. Haf 912 is fine - £60
Total - £645
If not over clocking, the H67 and non-k 2500 is a much better value option.
Johnlenham
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mrklaw said:
£60 case! what in the what! D: my pc at the moment is some compaq metal and plastic beast, not a clue if it can be reused though!
I forgot that I can reuse the dvd drive actually..
Any reason other than price for not having say 6gb or ram? and then I have to add Win 7 ontop of that not to mention an SSD for it. Hmm thinking to be done but thanks for the responses so far chaps
You don't need an ssd, you can always add one later if you like. And you can definitely look for cheaper cases, I was just copying one that others have used before
And these motherboards aren't triple channel, so you can't have 6GB, only 4 or 8. And 4 is plenty. You get four slots so you can add more later if you want to
And these motherboards aren't triple channel, so you can't have 6GB, only 4 or 8. And 4 is plenty. You get four slots so you can add more later if you want to
MikeE21286
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JWong said:
I'm using 4GB right now and I am having no trouble with it.
Also try to get 1.5v. Supposedly it plays better with Sandy Bridge than the higher voltages
momolicious
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So for airflow in case, is pulling air out of case more important than sucking in air from outside?
Mr Nightman
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I would think getting that hot air out of the case would be best, since most cases you can buy always come with a rear fan installed nowadays. Anyone else care to share some insight on this? I am not too aware of the best setups for airflow and fansmomolicious said:
I don't think there is any consensus on fan orientation. There's always some jerk who's got his back fans blowing in and his front fans blowing out for some fool reason.
IMO front fans suck in, rear/top fans blow out, avoid cases with side fans since that will screw up the air flow.
IMO front fans suck in, rear/top fans blow out, avoid cases with side fans since that will screw up the air flow.
Sniper McBlaze
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Uhhhm... I installed all my fans to blow out of the case. Will this fuck my flow up alot?
black_vegeta
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Nvidia GTX 580...got damn, that's pretty pricey!
I didn't know GPU's could get that pricey.
I didn't know GPU's could get that pricey.
momolicious
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Draft said:
So the most quiet and efficient setup that would work well for non-overclocking would be one in front to suck in air and one in back to remove air correct? Also no side openings in case. Are large fans louder than small fans.
Just the opposite, in fact. Fan noise is generally caused by fan speed. Higher RPM, louder noise. A larger fan can move more air with less RPMs than a small fan. Get the biggest fan you can fit in the case.momolicious said:
Honestly, you can probably get away without a front/intake fan if the system isn't going to be doing any heavy lifting.
shinobi602
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black_vegeta said:
The highest end GPUs have always been that expensive.
shinobi602
Member
Do you guys recommend a full tower case or will a mid tower case do? I'd like to have some decent room, don't want it to be too cluttered.
Probably full tower eh?
Probably full tower eh?
Nope, I would recommend mid-tower over full tower unless you have a boat load of optical/storage drives. Even then, the average mid-tower can probably hold 4 optical drives and a combination of up to 5 HDDs/11 SSDs.shinobi602 said:
Full towers are fucking BIG. IMO way too big for most people.
The final word on cooling:
shinobi602
Member
Draft said:
Ehh, yea I don't really want more than a few drives, just one HDD, and a DVD-R/RW really...just two...
Draft said:The final word on cooling:
In other words, have a shit ton of fans?
Shalashaska161
Member
I went with a full tower and the thing is way bigger than I need. Just go with a midsized tower and you will be perfectly fine.shinobi602 said:
shinobi602
Member
Draft said:
It's also $200 =/
black_vegeta
Member
Yeah, the mid towers are big enough for me. I only want to 2 drives in for the time being. I'm also looking into getting good air flow, which a mid tower will provide with great fan placement. I'm going to get a i7 2600k SB with a GTX 580...just waiting for a damn SB mobo that's a decent price to become available. -_-
What would the recommended wattage for the PSU? 750, 850, or moar (if there is a moar)?
What would the recommended wattage for the PSU? 750, 850, or moar (if there is a moar)?
All i know is the 4870x2 is one of the biggest piece of shit designed cards ive ever used. Got one when it was new and the card has this wonderful ability of consistently getting hotter and hotter with use. Couple of months ago there was literally no air flow coming out the back of the card and it was idling about 10 degrees hotter than it used, and under load it was getting crazy hot.
So i actually opened it all up and did surgery on it. Turns out there was so much fucking dust stuck in one of the heatsinks, it literally blocks all air flow to both the gpu cores as they are both horizontally positioned to the left of the fan behind the heatsinks.
I cleaned out all the dust and re-applied thermal paste to the cores and it dropped in temps significantly. Now about 4 months later my card is already 5 degrees hotter and probably has lost a quarter of its air flow. I really dont feel like opening this bitch up again. What a piece of shit.
So i actually opened it all up and did surgery on it. Turns out there was so much fucking dust stuck in one of the heatsinks, it literally blocks all air flow to both the gpu cores as they are both horizontally positioned to the left of the fan behind the heatsinks.
I cleaned out all the dust and re-applied thermal paste to the cores and it dropped in temps significantly. Now about 4 months later my card is already 5 degrees hotter and probably has lost a quarter of its air flow. I really dont feel like opening this bitch up again. What a piece of shit.
Mr Nightman
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I got the cooler master haf 912 mid tower, things really nice and roomy on the inside. The version on newegg though has a silver interior instead of black. Great mid tower for 60 bucks.shinobi602 said:
My buddy got a raidmax smilodon case that is also roomy, and even has a flip out motherboard tray.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147153
I but my existing shit into this case because the old one had dented fan casings and rattled like a son of a bitch (PC Gaming.) Didn't want to spend too much, since I'm planning on a whole new system later this year.
For $55 bucks, this case is pretty good. Fans are a little loud, but otherwise, solid.
I but my existing shit into this case because the old one had dented fan casings and rattled like a son of a bitch (PC Gaming.) Didn't want to spend too much, since I'm planning on a whole new system later this year.
For $55 bucks, this case is pretty good. Fans are a little loud, but otherwise, solid.
shinobi602
Member
Draft said:
So an 11 inch video card fits fine in there?? What about two? lol
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