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Hazaro

relies on auto-aim
Cougars seem to be ok. $110 for a 850W is ok by me, but might as well get a Corsair 750/850W V2 at that price.
 

pje122

Member
Quick question... when reinstalling windows, do I need to boot from the optical drive/usb drive in the bios or can I just run the disk in windows and go through the steps from there?
 

scotcheggz

Member
whatsinaname said:
Haha. I am idiot, ignore my post. I saw the 330 and my brain parsed that as 300. The Antec 300... So yeah, had to delete the post :|.

You could look at the Antec 300 though, should be in the price range you are looking at. And very clean looking as well.

haha thanks, I will do. Clean is good, it's going in my living room next to my TV stand, so I want it to look as understated as possible really.
 
Finally got a new graphics card, upgrading from my Nvidia GTX 260. Went ahead and got a GTX 560 Ti.

My CPU is an Intel Core i7 920 overclocked to 3.5 GHz. I'm trying to play Dragon Age 2 with my old GTX 260 and I can't really get a good framerate at 1080p. Can I expect my new graphics card to allow me to run this game at max settings with 60 FPS? Or is it possible that my CPU is a limiting factor here?
 

Hazaro

relies on auto-aim
autobzooty said:
Finally got a new graphics card, upgrading from my Nvidia GTX 260. Went ahead and got a GTX 560 Ti.

My CPU is an Intel Core i7 920 overclocked to 3.5 GHz. I'm trying to play Dragon Age 2 with my old GTX 260 and I can't really get a good framerate at 1080p. Can I expect my new graphics card to allow me to run this game at max settings with 60 FPS? Or is it possible that my CPU is a limiting factor here?
Depends on your resolution and in game settings.
I'd check around for some DA2 benchmarks, I'm not sure if the nVidia problem is causing that for you (Lowered fps).
pje122 said:
Quick question... when reinstalling windows, do I need to boot from the optical drive/usb drive in the bios or can I just run the disk in windows and go through the steps from there?
I'd imagine Windows would be ok, but why wouldn't you do it on bootup? Just hit the boot menu key if you don't feel like changing your boot order.
 

Fredescu

Member
autobzooty said:
My CPU is an Intel Core i7 920 overclocked to 3.5 GHz. I'm trying to play Dragon Age 2 with my old GTX 260 and I can't really get a good framerate at 1080p. Can I expect my new graphics card to allow me to run this game at max settings with 60 FPS? Or is it possible that my CPU is a limiting factor here?
Nvidia drivers are the limiting factor here. There is an nvidia specific issue with DA2 in DX11 mode. Currently a 5850 is faster than a GTX580.

DA2-1680-DX11.png
 

knitoe

Member
Wrekt said:
The 120gb Vertex 2's should be the old chips, right?
People are reporting they are also using the 25nm chips. No way to know until you get one, format and see the space. Better yet, I would suggest to just avoid any OCZ SSDs for now. I was lucky to have a old 32nm chips on 60GB OCZ even though the model # on box says it's should be new 25nm version.
 

pje122

Member
Hazaro said:
I'd imagine Windows would be ok, but why wouldn't you do it on bootup? Just hit the boot menu key if you don't feel like changing your boot order.
I'm just trying to figure out my options. Would it still work if you ran it from Windows as an image from a virtual drive (there is no optical drive in this equation, unfortunately)?
 

Wrekt

Member
knitoe said:
People are reporting they are also using the 25nm chips. No way to know until you get one, format and see the space. Better yet, I would suggest to just avoid any OCZ SSDs for now. I was lucky to have a old 32nm chips on 60GB OCZ even though the model # on box says it's should be new 25nm version.
That's the problem. I ordered one on Thursday and it will be delivered tomorrow morning. I had not heard of the problem until today.
 
So I have a 850w power supply that i've been trying to use but my PC doesn't seem to accept it. It boots up but as soon as the starting windows screen should show up the computer just shuts off. Any ideas as to why this would be happening?
 
Fredescu said:
Nvidia drivers are the limiting factor here. There is an nvidia specific issue with DA2 in DX11 mode. Currently a 5850 is faster than a GTX580.

DA2-1680-DX11.png

Ah I see. Yeah I got a lot better performance when I switched it to DX9, but all the other settings had to be lowered to accommodate this. I assume Nvidia will have new drivers out soon?
 

TheExodu5

Banned
Wrekt said:
That's the problem. I ordered one on Thursday and it will be delivered tomorrow morning. I had not heard of the problem until today.

OCZ does free exchanges if you receive a 25nm drive. From what I've seen though, the 50GB 25nm and 60GB 32nm drives are separate SKUs now, so unless the store you ordered it from has old stock, you shouldn't have any issues.
 

Weenerz

Banned
Is there a preferred GTX560 TI? Plan on getting two for SLI and I have read the PNY boards don't come with the bridge. Do any of them come with the bridge?
 

JWong

Banned
autobzooty said:
Ah I see. Yeah I got a lot better performance when I switched it to DX9, but all the other settings had to be lowered to accommodate this. I assume Nvidia will have new drivers out soon?
I thought the beta drivers were made specifically for DA2.

Not sure if you tried them.
 

Deadstar

Member
I'm narrowing down the motherboard I'd like to get. I found one from MSi and another from ASUS that I like. The MSI board doesn't support intel turbo boost technology. Is it important that I get a motherboard that supports this feature? I don't totally understand what it does. From what I can gather it speeds up the cpu when necessary up to 3.8 ghz. I'm not sure how this is affected if I overclock above that. I may not overclock at all though, or at least not in the near future. Any help?
 
I suppose this is a pretty good 'dilemma' to be in... but I'm currently considering this - please bare in mind that I am in no way made of money, I've just saved to the point where I have a bit of money to burn on upgrading my PC (it's already pretty good) so I'm trying to decide what to do.

The rest of the appropriate / important specs are:

i7-860 @ 4Ghz w/ Corsair H50
8GB 2300 DDR3
Gigabyte P55A-UD5
HIS 5970 GFX card
Gskill Falcon 2 128GB SSD

I use my PC through an iMac 27" that has the resolution of 2560x1440 so it pushes most cards hardcore.

My dilemma is this... I feel like my 5970 plays pretty much everything at full settings and lots of AA at 1920x1080 but not at 2560x1440. At that res I usually have to sacrifice something to have full resolution. Now I can't complain about running at 1920x1080, but I'd prefer to run at 2560x1440.

So, my current board is only a P55, SLI / Crossfire options aren't the best on a board like this because it reduces the PCIe lanes to 8 on each card when Crossfired / SLI'd but I've heard that doesn't make much of a difference.

So, the dilemma I have is choosing between the following options:

1. Upgrade to a single 6990 (this is my least favored approach, I don't know why... just didn't think the perf increases of this card were good enough).
2. Upgrade to the rumored (though I'm sure it's coming) Dual GTX580 card. I've been keen to switch back to Nvidia since the 580 came out, and the fact that a single 580 pretty much bones the 5970 in most ways is crazy. This is probably my preferred choice.
3. Wait for the next round of card upgrades - but when will they be?

Personally, I think I'm probably going to have to do SOMETHING before BF3 comes around. I want to be able to run Battlefield 3 at 2560x1440 at MAX with at least 4x AA and I kind of doubt that the 5970 will be able to do that. It MAY do it at 1920x1080 but that's not good enough lol.

So, what do people think?
 

Hazaro

relies on auto-aim
pje122 said:
I'm just trying to figure out my options. Would it still work if you ran it from Windows as an image from a virtual drive (there is no optical drive in this equation, unfortunately)?
If you have a USB I'd use that (make it bootable).
Deadstar said:
I'm narrowing down the motherboard I'd like to get. I found one from MSi and another from ASUS that I like. The MSI board doesn't support intel turbo boost technology. Is it important that I get a motherboard that supports this feature? I don't totally understand what it does. From what I can gather it speeds up the cpu when necessary up to 3.8 ghz. I'm not sure how this is affected if I overclock above that. I may not overclock at all though, or at least not in the near future. Any help?
If both are P67 boards they should support the turbo and overclocking. You are looking at a 2500K right? H61 and H67 do not support overclocking, but should support turbo (up to 3.6/3.8)
ColonialRaptor said:
I suppose this is a pretty good 'dilemma' to be in... but I'm currently considering this - please bare in mind that I am in no way made of money, I've just saved to the point where I have a bit of money to burn on upgrading my PC (it's already pretty good) so I'm trying to decide what to do.

The rest of the appropriate / important specs are:

i7-860 @ 4Ghz w/ Corsair H50
8GB 2300 DDR3
Gigabyte P55A-UD5
HIS 5970 GFX card
Gskill Falcon 2 128GB SSD

I use my PC through an iMac 27" that has the resolution of 2560x1440 so it pushes most cards hardcore.

My dilemma is this... I feel like my 5970 plays pretty much everything at full settings and lots of AA at 1920x1080 but not at 2560x1440. At that res I usually have to sacrifice something to have full resolution. Now I can't complain about running at 1920x1080, but I'd prefer to run at 2560x1440.

So, my current board is only a P55, SLI / Crossfire options aren't the best on a board like this because it reduces the PCIe lanes to 8 on each card when Crossfired / SLI'd but I've heard that doesn't make much of a difference.

So, the dilemma I have is choosing between the following options:

1. Upgrade to a single 6990 (this is my least favored approach, I don't know why... just didn't think the perf increases of this card were good enough).
2. Upgrade to the rumored (though I'm sure it's coming) Dual GTX580 card. I've been keen to switch back to Nvidia since the 580 came out, and the fact that a single 580 pretty much bones the 5970 in most ways is crazy. This is probably my preferred choice.
3. Wait for the next round of card upgrades - but when will they be?

Personally, I think I'm probably going to have to do SOMETHING before BF3 comes around. I want to be able to run Battlefield 3 at 2560x1440 at MAX with at least 4x AA and I kind of doubt that the 5970 will be able to do that. It MAY do it at 1920x1080 but that's not good enough lol.

So, what do people think?
I'd wait and see what nVidia has in response to the 6990. You have a bit of time and waiting is always better.
 

Deadstar

Member
Hazaro said:
If you have a USB I'd use that (make it bootable).

If both are P67 boards they should support the turbo and overclocking. You are looking at a 2500K right? H61 and H67 do not support overclocking, but should support turbo (up to 3.6/3.8)

I'd wait and see what nVidia has in response to the 6990. You have a bit of time and waiting is always better.

Ok so for example, this is the card I think I'm going to get as it has the features I'm looking for but it doesn't mention being able to use the turbo boost technology. What's strange is all of the P67 boards from ASUS have this in their details but the MSI boards do not. Does that mean anything? I have a 2600k i7.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130574
 
Hazaro said:
I'd wait and see what nVidia has in response to the 6990. You have a bit of time and waiting is always better.

Well, I'm not going to run out and buy something on a whim now.

Pretty much it all hangs on whether nVidia will have a Dual GPU GTX580. I simply cannot imagine the kind of beast that thing would be :D
 
ColonialRaptor said:
Well, I'm not going to run out and buy something on a whim now.

Pretty much it all hangs on whether nVidia will have a Dual GPU GTX580. I simply cannot imagine the kind of beast that thing would be :D



that would be the GTX 590 and it should perform same/better? than a 580 SLI set-up. I'm quite happy with the SLI that I have going now and it's quite nice to just pump in AA
(8x multi sampling? 32x AA?? etc, etc) and effects maxed at any game at 1920x1200 (though I don't have a 2560x1600 monitor... yet)
Crysis is brought down to it's knees quite nicely too and so is metro 2033.
 

knitoe

Member
TheExodu5 said:
OCZ does free exchanges if you receive a 25nm drive. From what I've seen though, the 50GB 25nm and 60GB 32nm drives are separate SKUs now, so unless the store you ordered it from has old stock, you shouldn't have any issues.
The exchange is from a 25nm 64Gbit die density to 25nm 32Gbit die density. In short, they perform the same in their shitty write speeds, but you get more space back. For example, 60GB would be 50GB after format. After exchange, you'll have a 55GB instead.

Just stay away from 25nm SSDs until next gen controllers, like Sandforce 2 => Vertex 3, come out which are design to work with them.
 

mrklaw

MrArseFace
Chittagong said:
Thanks for the thoughts - here is one preassembled configuration I can fit into a small case. Any idea how this would perform?

Intel Core i7 870
8GB DDR3 1333mhz (2x 4GB)
2TB S-ATAII 3.0Gb/s
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti 1GB or ATI Radeon HD 6870 1GB

Could this run a few years the new games comfortably on a 1080P TV? Thinking games like Battlefield 3, Modern Warfare 3 etc.

definetly look at a H67 m-itx board with an i5 2500 or i7 2600. Much more future proofed.

And also go for the 560, on par with the 6950 so more futureproofed, but shorter, quieter and cooler running (good for a small case).
 
evil solrac v3.0 said:
that would be the GTX 590 and it should perform same/better? than a 580 SLI set-up. I'm quite happy with the SLI that I have going now and it's quite nice to just pump in AA
(8x multi sampling? 32x AA?? etc, etc) and effects maxed at any game at 1920x1200 (though I don't have a 2560x1600 monitor... yet)
Crysis is brought down to it's knees quite nicely too and so is metro 2033.

What is it that you're running at the moment?

SLI scales far better than Crossfire when it comes to second card right?

I've come up with a couple more options now actually...

Those being dual card solutions. 6950 Crossfire, or 570 SLI, or even perhaps 580 SLI (that's probably the upper level of what I'd like to spend).

Of course no one can know until the product comes out but the 590, I wonder if it will actually be two 580's on one board or whether it will be two 570's like the 6990 is two 6950s.

Honestly, I think overall I find this gen of AMD's cards to be dissapointing, yet Nvidia has really come along way since the 4xx series cards.

Fuck... it's always such a hard decision for me to make, I always feel like I'm not making the right choice unless I buy the BEST card... and when I got the 5970 I was happy for 8 months or so (the longest I've been happy with a card for) until Nvidia brought out the 580 which is a single GPU card that keeps up with my 5970 and sometimes beats it!!

Lol... Ahhh.. the joys of being in the glorious PC master race, there is so much more enjoyment to be had from researching tech, putting it together yourself, and watching the amazing results at huge res. Heh... even still I play a lot of my games on PS3 :)

Edit - looking through a bunch of benchmark results and a 6950CF setup certainly seems to be the best performance to cost ratio IMO.

Edit 2 - and a 570SLI setup would be a stupid choice because the 6970CF price is the same but with much better performance.

It seems to be becoming clear to me that I won't be upgrading with this round of cards. When will the next gen of cards be coming (does anyone know?) the 6xx series nvidia cards? I'm eager to get back into the green camp (I don't even know why).
 

LiquidMetal14

hide your water-based mammals
n0n44m said:
if you can find a cheap 5870, isn't tri-crossfire a possibility ? seen some rigs before with 5970+5870 setups
With the right PSU, that would be ok but you should weigh your cost versus something like 2x6950's.
 

Wrekt

Member
Can I flash the firmware on my new SSD with a SATA->USB2.0 adapter? Or should it be attached to a real SATA controller?
 
n0n44m said:
if you can find a cheap 5870, isn't tri-crossfire a possibility ? seen some rigs before with 5970+5870 setups

That's not a bad idea... though I'd certainly like to have a look at how that scales against as LiquidMetal said 2x6950s
 
Ive noticed recently, when there is a fair few wireless devices in use on my router (laptops, ipods, mobile phones etc), i notice my internet turns to shit and gets ridiculously slow or unresponsive at all, and this is when most of the devices have been turned off or not even in use. I cant help but think my router is somehow getting overloaded with devices or something (i really dont know, im clueless with this sort of thing) and its causing it to get all wierd.

Anyone have any idea about this ?
 

CrankyJay

Banned
Question: I see people with CM Hyper 212+ but with an additional fan. I take it this extra fan doesn't come with the kit (only 1 fan does). Can someone give me a link to the additional fan page on NewEgg?
 

TheExodu5

Banned
Ogs said:
Ive noticed recently, when there is a fair few wireless devices in use on my router (laptops, ipods, mobile phones etc), i notice my internet turns to shit and gets ridiculously slow or unresponsive at all, and this is when most of the devices have been turned off or not even in use. I cant help but think my router is somehow getting overloaded with devices or something (i really dont know, im clueless with this sort of thing) and its causing it to get all wierd.

Anyone have any idea about this ?

Yeah, probably a bad router. When you say your internet is slow, does that include wired devices?
 

Chittagong

Gold Member
mrklaw said:
definetly look at a H67 m-itx board with an i5 2500 or i7 2600. Much more future proofed.

And also go for the 560, on par with the 6950 so more futureproofed, but shorter, quieter and cooler running (good for a small case).


Found a small case called Echo III from Puget, it would seem to pack in a bit more:

Intel Core i7 2600K 3.4GHz
8GB RAM (2x4GB)
2.0 TB Western Digital (SATA3 6Gb/s)
NVIDIA GTX 580 1.5GB

That should pack enough punch in a really small case too

Height 333 mm (13.1 inches)
Width 279 mm (11.0 inches)
Depth 407 mm (16.0 inches)

By the way, what kind of a keyboard / mouse setup do people use when playing from their comfy coaches? Surely not leaning over to coffee table?
 

winnarps

Member
Anyone know the 'maximum safe' overclock for an i7-2600k w/ the CM Hyper 212 Plus heatsink?

Been fooling around with some settings on my own, but wasn't sure if there were any guides out there for this.
 
winnarps said:
Anyone know the 'maximum safe' overclock for an i7-2600k w/ the CM Hyper 212 Plus heatsink?

Been fooling around with some settings on my own, but wasn't sure if there were any guides out there for this.
There isn't such a thing as CPUs vary from chip to chip, even when they're from the same batch. Generally, you'd want to keep a 2600K at or below 1.4v for 24/7 use, and preferably under 70c at max. That could be ~4.2GHz, or even ~4.8GHz, depending on your particular CPU.



Chittagong said:
Found a small case called Echo III from Puget, it would seem to pack in a bit more:

Intel Core i7 2600K 3.4GHz
8GB RAM (2x4GB)
2.0 TB Western Digital (SATA3 6Gb/s)
NVIDIA GTX 580 1.5GB

That should pack enough punch in a really small case too

Height 333 mm (13.1 inches)
Width 279 mm (11.0 inches)
Depth 407 mm (16.0 inches)

By the way, what kind of a keyboard / mouse setup do people use when playing from their comfy coaches? Surely not leaning over to coffee table?
You mean a small pre-built? The enclosure is actually a Lian Li PC-Q08.

There's nearly zero reason to buy a "K" CPU if you're going with an H67/H61 board. May as well save your money and get a standard i5 2500/i7 2600. In addition, a GTX 580 is a fairly hot card to run in an enclosure like that. As long as your ambient isn't too high it will be fine, but, obviously, not nearly as cool as an enclosure with better airflow.
 

Chittagong

Gold Member
·feist· said:
There isn't such a thing as CPUs vary from chip to chip, even when they're from the same batch. Generally, you'd want to keep a 2600K at or below 1.4v for 24/7 use, and preferably under 70c at max. That could be ~4.2GHz, or even ~4.8GHz, depending on your particular CPU.



You mean a small pre-built? The enclosure is actually a Lian Li PC-Q08.

There's nearly zero reason to buy a "K" CPU if you're going with an H67/H61 board. May as well save your money and get a standard i5 2500/i7 2600. In addition, a GTX 580 is a fairly hot card to run in an enclosure like that. As long as your ambient isn't too high it will be fine, but, obviously, not nearly as cool as an enclosure with better airflow.

Yeah I'm looking for pre-built since I have no experience whatsoever in assembling my own.

Many people seem to be talking about heat and airflow in the context of PCs, I'm not familiar enough yet to understand the implications.

Anyway, I was planning of having small enough rig to be placed in a larger cupboard, now the heat bit makes me a bit concerned...
 

mrklaw

MrArseFace
Chittagong said:
Yeah I'm looking for pre-built since I have no experience whatsoever in assembling my own.

Many people seem to be talking about heat and airflow in the context of PCs, I'm not familiar enough yet to understand the implications.

Anyway, I was planning of having small enough rig to be placed in a larger cupboard, now the heat bit makes me a bit concerned...


you just want to make sure the air is cleared out the back. For my PS3 and my AV receiver I made holes or removed the back of my units so hot air could escape. As long as the intake fans can get fresh air to them, and exhaust air doesn't get trapped and build up (so you don't want hot air feeding the intakes) you should be fine.

How much width do you have? You could consider something in the desktop format (I use a silverstone LC17), which would be approximately the size of a decent AV receiver..


also worth considering building yourself if you're even slightly curious. I doubt money is an issue for you, but its fairly interesting and not particularly tricky.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
Not sure if this is the thread, but I'm sort of being forced to upgrade my laptop due to the Staples warranty and the only thing that's comparable that I can get at a reasonable price to me (650 Canadian after taxes and the gift card they're giving me) is this:

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/...1034&cc=us&dlc=en&lc=en&jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN

The real pertinent details are as follows:
Intel Core i7-720QM Processor 1.60GHz with Turbo Boost Technology up to 2.80 GHz
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650 graphics
1600x900 LCD

How is that for a laptop these days?
 
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