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Hixx

Member
New mobo & RAM today (gone from 2gig ddr2 pc6400 to 4gig ddr3 12800 or something), set me back about £90, pretty sure my old motherboard was fried. I have come to the conclusion that m-ATX boards are the fucking devil, holy shit the amount of cuts and nips I got wiring everything up was unreal. My new board is even smaller than the old one and that was a pain.

Now for a quick question, are there any decent quad cores for socket 775? I'm on an e8400 at the moment and in some games its a real bottleneck (mostly openworld games, GTA and your MMOs etc).
 

TheExodu5

Banned
mkenyon said:
I wasn't suggesting the H50, just looked over my post and am not sure how you came to that conclusion. I did not add the clause, "Even a cooler as crappy as an H50 on just push configuration could....", which may have cleared it up for you. The thermaltake frio, for example, has the same benches as the D14, but is half the size and $30 less. V6GT, same thing. There's been some huge advances in the CPU cooler market over the past year, and the D14 is frankly outdated.

V6GT comes nowhere close to the D14. Neither does the Thermaltake Frio.

When comparing heatsinks, you have to remember that you should compare them with the exact same fan configurations. The only reason the V6GT fan keeps up with the higher end coolers is because it's loud as hell.

noise.jpg


That's as loud as a GTX 580 under load.

I have a Thermalright Venomous X and it keeps my 2500K @ 4.6GHz under 65C (hottest core, 55C being the lowest core) with 800 RPM fans with Intel Burn Test.
 

Hixx

Member
mkenyon said:
Yeah, there are some really nice socket 775 quad cores. Everything from the Q66 on up are pretty rockin still.

I know there are a lot of q6600 fans on GAF :p Only problem is they are like rocking horse shit it seems, a new one is incredibly expensive (£150, could be had for £100 not even 6 months ago) and I would probably be better off getting an AM3 mobo and a 1055 or even a 955?
 

mkenyon

Banned
TheExodu5 said:
V6GT comes nowhere close to the D14. Neither does the Thermaltake Frio.

When comparing heatsinks, you have to remember that you should compare them with the exact same fan configurations. The only reason the V6GT fan keeps up with the higher end coolers is because it's loud as hell.

That's as loud as a GTX 580 under load.

For the smaller package, a 7 degree difference is worth it, especially if its keeping the temp under specs. Too many amateurs get caught up in "OMG HUGE COOLER LOW TEMPS" when it's not necessary, especially with a relatively standard OC like 5.0ghz on sandybridge. Either way, the Frio is right there with the Noctua, at $30 less.

**edit Mmmm... noise. I don't fret noise too much, especially considering that I have headphones on while using my gaming rig and have it in my office. If that is important to you, then my suggestions aren't as impressive.
 

TheExodu5

Banned
mkenyon said:
For the smaller package, a 7 degree difference is worth it, especially if its keeping the temp under specs. Too many amateurs get caught up in "OMG HUGE COOLER LOW TEMPS" when it's not necessary, especially with a relatively standard OC like 5.0ghz on sandybridge. Either way, the Frio is right there with the Noctua, at $30 less.

I'll agree with you on that one. Many people also don't seem to care about 50dB noise either.

I'm just saying, calling the Noctua outdated is silly, as it clearly outclasses the Frio pretty badly. The Frio cools just as well with the Noctua, but at twice the noise level.

edit: that's not to say the Frio isn't worth getting. If you don't are about sound levels, it's clearly a better value than the Noctua.

Personally, I like the Hyper 212+, the Mugen 2, the Venomous X, and the DH14. The Hyper 212+ is the clear budget choice. The Mugen 2 is the best performer for the money, but it loses points with me simply because it's massive and a pain in the ass to install. The DH14 is the best performer on the market. The Venomous X comes within a degree of the DH14, but does so while being significantly smaller (and nicer looking).

If I were recommending coolers to builders, those are the standouts to me.
 

Kadey

Mrs. Harvey
I wanted to upgrade my processor to the best available for my motherboard (780i and for video streaming) and it turns out the Q9650 is like $80-$100 more expensive than the i7 2600k. And also the same amount of DDR2 Ram is more expensive than an equal amount of DDR3 ram. Technically it wouldn't cost me much more than a hundred or two to do a full blown upgrade. But seriously, what's with the pricing? Old stuff should be like dirt cheap. I didn't want to do a full upgrade yet but I mind as well.
 

TheExodu5

Banned
mkenyon said:
Here's a good roundup of CPU coolers as of Q3 2010. There's been a few new releases that are really impressive as well.

They seem to like the Venomous X and Mugen 2 as well. Those coolers truly are criminally underrated. The Venomous X is an evolution of the TRUE, which was a top cooler for a long time, and the Mugen 2 is a seriously impressive cooler for the money.

It's pretty easy to tell if a cooler is good. Simply put, the more fins, the more heatpipes, and the more contact space you have, the more cooling potential it has.
 

Weenerz

Banned
Anyone using the 3D Vision from nVidia? I was thinking of adding this since it seems most of their games on the excellent list are games I regularly play. Also, recommended monitors to take advantage of the 3D vision? 23-24" displays only if possible. I see one from Dell that is an Alienceware but it's $550, and I'm guessing that is a premium for the branding.
 

scogoth

Member
DeadRockstar said:
What? My H50 has my i7 4ghz at <50C

Tried 3 different thermal pastes, push, pull, push/pull configs and nothing would keep temps down under any oc. Ended up returning it for the noctua and haven't had a problem since. Maybe I just got a bad unit then?
 

scogoth

Member
mkenyon said:
I wasn't suggesting the H50, just looked over my post and am not sure how you came to that conclusion. I did not add the clause, "Even a cooler as crappy as an H50 on just push configuration could....", which may have cleared it up for you.

mkenyon said:
There are less expensive and smaller coolers that achieve more or less the same results as the noctua. Also, yes, you are wrong. They can hit a stable 5.0 on an H50 cooler in a simple push configuration. I've seen it in person even.

Sorry was mixing up your two posts.


@Weenerz

Weenerz said:
Anyone using the 3D Vision from nVidia? I was thinking of adding this since it seems most of their games on the excellent list are games I regularly play. Also, recommended monitors to take advantage of the 3D vision? 23-24" displays only if possible. I see one from Dell that is an Alienceware but it's $550, and I'm guessing that is a premium for the branding.

I have an ASUS VG236H and its pretty good, sometimes there is some noticeable crosstalk in games but never in movies. The 2D mode is standard for 120hz panels but they're all going to be twisted nematic so don't expect stellar colours and viewing angles. Check out http://3dvision-blog.com/ for a bunch of good reviews and news on everything 3D.

Having used 3D for about 8 months now I can't really recommend it. It's really cool but the tech isn't quite there yet and the price is really high. Until cross talk is completely eliminated, playing fps games can be really annoying. If all your doing is 3d blu ray and non-fps games then it is a cool feature, but its not something you will use every time you game.
 

Zzoram

Member
What brand of laptop is most reliable in recent times? I know this can change over time.

How do Acer, Asus, HP, Dell, Lenovo compare?
 

TheExodu5

Banned
scogoth said:
Tried 3 different thermal pastes, push, pull, push/pull configs and nothing would keep temps down under any oc. Ended up returning it for the noctua and haven't had a problem since. Maybe I just got a bad unit then?

Might have been air bubbles in the tubes. Probably a defective unit.
 
Ogs said:
Any luck with the PC yet ?

Yep i figured out the problem.

P1000579.jpg


RAM will only work on that second blue slot. Remember I had to further push the RAM in the first blue slot as it was loose.

Now whenever any stick of RAM isn't in that second blue slot, that previous problem occurs.

Is this a BIOS issue or motherboard issue?

And before anyone asks, yes I installed the drivers via motherboard disc.
 

Hixx

Member
Flying_Phoenix said:
Yep i figured out the problem.

[IMG.]http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk264/gunraidan/P1000579.jpg[/IMG]

RAM will only work on that second blue slot. Remember I had to further push the RAM in the first blue slot as it was loose.

Now whenever any stick of RAM isn't in that second blue slot, that previous problem occurs.

Is this a BIOS issue or motherboard issue?

And before anyone asks, yes I installed the drivers via motherboard disc.

If all your memory sticks work in the second slot but not in the first its the motherboard.
 

InertiaXr

Member
Does anybody know why my USB ports would be transferring data at about 3MB/s? Even on my front of the case ports it does this on supposedly USB 3.0 ports. Yes I have installed the USB drivers for my mobo (P8P67) but it still does this.
 

TheExodu5

Banned
InertiaXr said:
Does anybody know why my USB ports would be transferring data at about 3MB/s? Even on my front of the case ports it does this on supposedly USB 3.0 ports. Yes I have installed the USB drivers for my mobo (P8P67) but it still does this.

What device are you transferring to? Some devices, such as low end flash drives, are just really, really slow.
 

Weenerz

Banned
striKeVillain! said:
All my parts are coming in tomorrow. Little bit nervous, never built a PC from scratch. Have been watching a bunch of videos though.


Just remind yourself that almost all the ports are labeled and most cables/cards will only fit in the correct ports.
 

JaseC

gave away the keys to the kingdom.
striKeVillain! said:
All my parts are coming in tomorrow. Little bit nervous, never built a PC from scratch. Have been watching a bunch of videos though.

Do you know anybody who could guide you through it? I built my first PC with the assistance of a local bloke (friend of my mum's friend) when I was 13 or so. It was rather enjoyable (even though I cut the bottom end of my thumb real good and now have a scar :/) and I've been building my own systems since. It's not as difficult as it initially seems.
 

InertiaXr

Member
TheExodu5 said:
What device are you transferring to? Some devices, such as low end flash drives, are just really, really slow.

It's a Sandisk 8GB flash drive. I will connect one of my external hard drives to the same port and see if it improves at all. I've used the same flash drive in various other computers and never had an issue with it before, so I assumed it was my mobo in some way.
 

teiresias

Member
Does anyone have a recommendation for a good 20" or so LCD monitor? My dad is building a new rig and wants to get a new monitor since he still has a 14" CRT. I don't really have any suggestions to give to him though. He uses it mainly for gaming and some video editing, so I guess aiming it towards gaming is the best thing to do. Any suggestions would be welcome, thanks guys.
 

verbum

Member
teiresias said:
Does anyone have a recommendation for a good 20" or so LCD monitor? My dad is building a new rig and wants to get a new monitor since he still has a 14" CRT. I don't really have any suggestions to give to him though. He uses it mainly for gaming and some video editing, so I guess aiming it towards gaming is the best thing to do. Any suggestions would be welcome, thanks guys.

The Dell IPS Ultrasharp monitors are very nice. I have one and it really cuts down on eye fatigue.
http://www.dell.com/content/topics/topic.aspx//global/products/monitors/includes/en/ultrasharpmonitor_ips?c=us&cs=04&l=en&s=bsd
Look for some Dell coupons on the web. The 23 inch monitor is $279 on the Dell site but they have sales all the time. The 23 inch was $239 10 days ago.
 

cazosozey

Member
teiresias said:
Does anyone have a recommendation for a good 20" or so LCD monitor? My dad is building a new rig and wants to get a new monitor since he still has a 14" CRT. I don't really have any suggestions to give to him though. He uses it mainly for gaming and some video editing, so I guess aiming it towards gaming is the best thing to do. Any suggestions would be welcome, thanks guys.


I lurk this thread pretty heavily but I thought I would throw in my 2 cents.
I just pulled the trigger Friday for this:

Acer 20" Backlight LED via Tigerdirect

Pros: It was in my budget, DVI, LED, decent resolution
Cons: sub-1080p, I'm told 20" is pretty small, but I am okay with that.
The final icing on the cake to my recent build. I should be getting it on Wed.
 

Mejilan

Running off of Custom Firmware
Hi. Unfortunately, I seem to have posted a rather redundant thread (for full details: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=26631096#post26631096) but ultimately got pointed to this one, so perhaps it wasn't a total waste of bandwidth!

I guess I'll start with the OPs survey, and include a summary/wrap-up culled from my other thread?

Basic Desktop Questions
Your Current Specs: Uhh... specs of my current, obsolete rig? What's the point? It's a junker! It's a crappy 6 year old Dell pre-fab sporting one of the last consumer level Pentium IV chips, which I upgraded over the years with additional storage, double the RAM, and a better ATI graphics card.

Budget: USA. $3500 - $4500 depending on 'sooner' or 'later.' More if we're talking about MUCH later.

Main Use: Heavy Gaming, possible emulation (PS2/Wii), general usage (Word/Excel/PowerPoint, Web, 1080p playback)

Monitor Resolution: I would like a dual monitor set up and do NOT intend on utilizing my current 6+ year old non-widescreen Dell LCD. So preferably, two solid and identical displays. The higher the resolution, the better, but unless it isn't advisable, I want two complimentary (or even identical) displays.

List SPECIFIC games: Despite the fact that my current computer has been unable to effectively run the last 3 years worth of games (at least), I HAVE been purchasing them and throwing them on a shelf. So everything from Dragon Age II to Skyrim, Starcraft II to Diablo III. Tons of RPGs and shooters going back from a few weeks ago, to a few years ago.

Are reusing any parts?: I'll perhaps be recycling some internal storage and will definitely continue using the substantial external storage I have now, but for all intents and purposes, consider my case as that of a clean slate. I don't have any serious plans to integrate existing, years-old equipment into the new rig.

When will you build?: By the time Diablo III and/or Skyrim hit, at the latest. But honestly, any time between now and then. The longer we wait, the more money I'll be able to bring to the table. I haven't looked at tech in about 6 years, so I'm horribly out of touch. Hence, this call for aid!

Will you be overclocking?: Don't know. I've never done it, and the concept makes me nervous. If I could get away with a machine powerful enough to allow for a 'no' response for now, and perhaps revisit the question a year or three down the road, then all the better.

A bit of background. I've never built my own PC, but have a better-than-average-Joe tech mentality. I've swapped in and out countless RAM chips, optical drives, HDDs, graphics cards, and audio cards (wheee, Soundblasters... remember those!?) But I've never researched things like mobos, CPUs, cooling systems, power sources, or the towers that hold 'em all together. I've typically been more of a software kind of guy. I've soft-modded a good number of my consoles. I've jailbroken my phone numerous times. Shit, I've even installed custom firmware on a number of wireless routers... just 'cuz.

I'm looking for a decked out gaming rig (as much as I can afford, in any event), with as much expandability and future-proofing as possible. As mentioned above, I want a dual-monitor set up with two brand new and complimentary displays. All components will be new, save for external HDDs (I've got around 3TBs of external storage). I'd like a good SSD as my primary OS drive, with a traditional internal HDD of at least 2TB for general use. Gaming mouse. Gaming keyboard. New OS. My old OEM version of Windows XP Home won't cut it, even if I could somehow get it to work on a machine other than my six-year-old Dell pre-fab.

I don't think building it from the core components will prove beyond my abilities, but the preliminary research is daunting. Especially for someone that's effectively 6 years out of touch.
I'm not entirely sure about the state of things re: AMD vs Intel; ATI vs NVidia, but I think I'd rather go with an Intel CPU and an NVidia GPU this time around. Do I go all out with a top-of-the-line GPU, or get two lesser GPUs and crossfire them? Or stick with that top-of-theline card and crossfire it on the cheap a few years down the road? I'd need a strong power source, and probably excellent cooling.
It's my understanding that dedicated sound cards are basically a thing of the past, yes? I DO want 5.1 surround support. If it supports my current 5.1 equipment (hardly top of the line, but still), that'd be a bonus.

Any help that you guys could provide me would be most, most appreciated. Thank you in advance.
 
JaseC said:
Do you know anybody who could guide you through it? I built my first PC with the assistance of a local bloke (friend of my mum's friend) when I was 13 or so. It was rather enjoyable (even though I cut the bottom end of my thumb real good and now have a scar :/) and I've been building my own systems since. It's not as difficult as it initially seems.
I have a couple of co-workers who have done it but it probably won't be that bad. C'mon, if GAF can do it, how hard could it possibly be? :)
 

InertiaXr

Member
Mejilan said:
Any help that you guys could provide me would be most, most appreciated. Thank you in advance.

I'm not sure if you will be able to find parts that total $3500+ without it being identical to something that's probably around $2000, tops.
 

Chris R

Member
Mejilan said:
Budget: USA. $3500 - $4500 depending on 'sooner' or 'later.' More if we're talking about MUCH later.

Any help that you guys could provide me would be most, most appreciated. Thank you in advance.
That budget is probably way over what you would need to spend to get a great rig with top of the line stuff. If you get 2 good monitors then you can hit the $4.5k range no problem, but that rig wouldn't be THAT much better than if you just spent ~2.5 with 2 monitors.
 

kinggroin

Banned
Just a heads up for anyone looking into building a higher end PC and saving a bit of cash, I'm parting the following pieces out.

If you have an offer, contact me via pm ONLY

Make a bid on any of the fofollowing:

Core I7 930

2x EVGA GTX 580

EVGA Classified 3 (mobo 1)

EVGA X58 3X SLI Classified (mobo 2)

Thermalright Venomous X RT

Corsair Obsidian 700D case

Silverstone Raven 2 case version 1 with version 2 fans

6GB Corsair Dominator GT 2000 RAM

Plextor Sata Blu-Ray Player

Creative Soundblaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Edition

2x Sata 3 Western Digital Caviar Black

2x OCZ Vertex 2 Turbo 60Gb SSD

Logitech G-19 Gaming Keyboard

Enermax Evo Galaxy 1250W PSU

I also have an abundance of fans which inclide xigmatek, coolermaster r4 and some gt typhoon 1450's.
 

Mejilan

Running off of Custom Firmware
Thank you all! My budgetary benchmark, as it were, is 6 years old.
Back then, a top of the line gaming rig could conceivably run into $3000.
I think.

My budget is what it is mostly by accident.
A happy accident, though.

Edit - Checking out that techreport March 2011 system guide.
Perhaps it would make sense to wait for Sandy Bridge to really hit?
Whatever that is?
 

Somnid

Member
Just finished my new rig:

ASUS P8P67 Pro
i7 2600
16GB DD3 1600
Rosewell Bronze 1000Watt PSU
2x6970 CF
Antec 900 case
120GB Intel SSD
LG Blu-ray Burner

Performance is beastly but I've been running into a few issues. First, I wanted to play Crysis with my newly found power but it crashes pretty hard on the intro level and requires a hard reboot which scream hardware/driver problems. I'm not getting this in other games though. Also, my CPU temps seem a bit high at 50C. This could just be me not tightening the heatsink enough as the bracket was perched precariously above some capacitors and I was paranoid the screw would sink into one. Kinda don't want another heatsink as this one is only 3 months old, got in the twilight days of my last PC. But fuck it if this is what it comes to.

Also, how the hell do people get their cases so tidy? The cables barely fit into mine, I'd have to get like custom measured ones.
 

TheExodu5

Banned
Mejilan said:
Hi. Unfortunately, I seem to have posted a rather redundant thread (for full details: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=26631096#post26631096) but ultimately got pointed to this one, so perhaps it wasn't a total waste of bandwidth!

I guess I'll start with the OPs survey, and include a summary/wrap-up culled from my other thread?

Basic Desktop Questions
Your Current Specs: Uhh... specs of my current, obsolete rig? What's the point? It's a junker! It's a crappy 6 year old Dell pre-fab sporting one of the last consumer level Pentium IV chips, which I upgraded over the years with additional storage, double the RAM, and a better ATI graphics card.

Budget: USA. $3500 - $4500 depending on 'sooner' or 'later.' More if we're talking about MUCH later.

Main Use: Heavy Gaming, possible emulation (PS2/Wii), general usage (Word/Excel/PowerPoint, Web, 1080p playback)

Monitor Resolution: I would like a dual monitor set up and do NOT intend on utilizing my current 6+ year old non-widescreen Dell LCD. So preferably, two solid and identical displays. The higher the resolution, the better, but unless it isn't advisable, I want two complimentary (or even identical) displays.

List SPECIFIC games: Despite the fact that my current computer has been unable to effectively run the last 3 years worth of games (at least), I HAVE been purchasing them and throwing them on a shelf. So everything from Dragon Age II to Skyrim, Starcraft II to Diablo III. Tons of RPGs and shooters going back from a few weeks ago, to a few years ago.

Are reusing any parts?: I'll perhaps be recycling some internal storage and will definitely continue using the substantial external storage I have now, but for all intents and purposes, consider my case as that of a clean slate. I don't have any serious plans to integrate existing, years-old equipment into the new rig.

When will you build?: By the time Diablo III and/or Skyrim hit, at the latest. But honestly, any time between now and then. The longer we wait, the more money I'll be able to bring to the table. I haven't looked at tech in about 6 years, so I'm horribly out of touch. Hence, this call for aid!

Will you be overclocking?: Don't know. I've never done it, and the concept makes me nervous. If I could get away with a machine powerful enough to allow for a 'no' response for now, and perhaps revisit the question a year or three down the road, then all the better.

I'm pricing something together, but I need an idea of the monitors you want to get. An extremely large portion of your budget could be spent on monitors.

You could get 2x 1080p 24" TN monitors for around $400.
You could get 2x 1080p 27" TN monitors for around $600
You could get 2x 1600p 27" IPS monitors for around $2000.
You could get 2x 1600p 30" IPS monitors for around $3000.

What are you using your monitors for exactly? Is there a specific purpose you want to go dual screen? You might find that one 1600p screen offers a ton of real estate.

Anyways, I'm just going balls out to see what this could cost, and we can scale back from there.

Case: Silverstone FT02 - $250
PSU: Corsair AX850 - $200
Motherboard: P67 Crossfire/SLI motherboard - $180
CPU: 2600K - $330
CPU HSF: Thermalright Venomous X + dual fans - $80
RAM: 8GB DDR3 - $80
GPU: 2x Radeon 6970 - $700
SSD: 256GB OCZ Vertex 3 - $500 (presumably)
HDD: 2TB 5400RPM HDD - $80
Blu-Ray drive: $60
OS: Windows 7 64-bit Professional - $130
Gaming mouse - $60
Good mouse pad - $30
High end keyboard - $80

Total: $2760
 

Cyrus365

Neo Member
Hello All,

Need some serious advice, Been out of the game for a while.

Take a look at my build, any improvements or suggestions to get a better bang for my buck, or something that I should upgrade now. All suggestions greatly welcomed, haven't followed new comp trends for a while now, my last comp was amd 1900 like 5 years ago, still using it to this day. Not sure on the motherboard, but Asus is generally good quality or it when i was last researching specs and such. Not sure what the trends are, or what has changed.

Would like this comp to be as future proof as possible (I know that's impossible but would like to last me 3-4 years with minimal upgrading other than adding another graphic card or more ram)...

So on to the stuff:

Budget: $1200-1300 Pre Tax CDN


Main use: Gaming, some light photoshop, general usage (Word/Excel/PowerPoint, Web, 1080p playback).

Specific Games: SC II, Diablo III, and Skyrim, anything else I'd probably get on Consoles.

When will you build: There is no rush, I can still hold onto my AMD 1900+ for the time being, but it's starting to really show it's age when I have trouble watching youtube videos in HD (looks like a slideshow), don't game on it at all anymore. I'd build this computer in about a months time depending on local sales, and such, unless there something big coming this fall? If so what is it, and should I wait?

Will you be overclocking?: Yes

So onto the build:

Intel Core i7 2600K Quad Core Unlocked Hyperthreading Processor LGA1155 3.4GHZ Sandy Bridge 8MB: $309.99
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=57960&promoid=1280

ASUS P8P67 LE ATX LGA1155 P67 2PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 3PCI IDE USB3.0 Sandy Bridge B3 Motherboard: $139.99
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=59319&promoid=1280

G.SKILL Ripjaws X F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-24 Memory : $85.50
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=57953&promoid=1280

EVGA GeForce GTS 450 Superclocked Fermi 882MHZ 1024MB GDDR5 Dual DVI Mini-HDMI PCI-E DX11 Video Card : $129.99
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=55460&promoid=1280

OCZ FATAL1TY Series 750W ATX 24PIN SLI Ready Modular Cables 135mm Red Fan 80+ Bronze Power Supply: $79.99
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=53331&promoid=1280

Antec Dark Fleet DF-85 Full Tower Gaming Case ATX 12 Drive Bay No PS Top USB3.0 USB Audio: $124.99
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=54030&promoid=1280

Intel X25-V 40GB 2.5IN SATA2 SSD Solid State Disk Flash Drive Retail Box : $79.99
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=48984&promoid=1280

Western Digital WD20EARS Caviar Green 2TB SATA2 3Gbps 64MB Cache 3.5IN Hard Drive OEM : $79.99
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=49591&promoid=1280

Samsung SH-S222A/BEBE 22X Dual Layer DVD Writer Black IDE OEM $18.99
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=39427&promoid=1280

PC Assembly and Testing With 1 Year Limited NCIX System Warranty (PRE-CONFIG WIN. OS If Purchased): $50.00
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=7842

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64BIT DVD OEM: $99.99
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=45271&promoid=1280

Total:$1197.41 before taxes, with 45 MIR available as well.

Not sure about the Win 7, so that can be lowered by 100. As I mayget it cheaper through school, for 70 bucks rather than 100 bucks.

Also part of the package this was offered, not sure on if it's a waste:

Coolit Systems Eco CPU Water Cooling System AUTO-REGULATED & Maintenance Free LGA1366/1156/1155/AM3: $49.99
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=50327

Or gettting a good fan? if so what fan should I get.

Got questions on the Motherboard, Graphic card (But like I said just want to get a decent/good graphic card, and upgrade later down the road. unless there is deal to be had now). Also not sure on the casing, looks ugly?
 

iNvid02

Member
Somnid said:
Just finished my new rig:

ASUS P8P67 Pro
i7 2600
16GB DD3 1600
Rosewell Bronze 1000Watt PSU
2x6970 CF
Antec 900 case
120GB Intel SSD
LG Blu-ray Burner

Also, how the hell do people get their cases so tidy? The cables barely fit into mine, I'd have to get like custom measured ones.


there is your problem
 

Mejilan

Running off of Custom Firmware
Not too sure what you mean by IPS vs. TN.
This will primarily be a gaming rig.
But I'll also be using it for work and research.
From my experiences at the office, I find dual monitors set up as an extended desktop to be an amazing productivity booster.

I imagine there's little to be gained gaming-wise from dual monitors. That's why I want them to individually be quality as well.

Since it appears that component prices and overall system prices are lower than I had anticipated, I don't mind splurging a bit on the displays.

I have no intention of using either of them as HDTVs, if that's what you're asking.
I've got a fairly nice 42" Panasonic Viera plasma (2009 model) for my console gaming and blu-ray watching. So the monitors will strictly be utilized for PC-based work and gaming.
 

TheExodu5

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I went balls out on that build. The only way to spend more than that without just wasting money would be going 2x GTX 580, which would up your price by an additional $300. Although they're faster, I opted to go with the 6970 instead since the VRAM on the GTX 580 could be a hindrance at a very high resolution.

So up there is the worst case scenarion, at $2760.

As for IPS vs TN...IPS has more accurate colors and better viewing angles. TN is cheap and has quick response times. If you've ever seen a Macintosh display, that's an IPS panel.
 

fugimax

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Mejilan said:
Not too sure what you mean by IPS vs. TN.
This will primarily be a gaming rig.
But I'll also be using it for work and research.
From my experiences at the office, I find dual monitors set up as an extended desktop to be an amazing productivity booster.

I imagine there's little to be gained gaming-wise from dual monitors. That's why I want them to individually be quality as well.

Since it appears that component prices and overall system prices are lower than I had anticipated, I don't mind splurging a bit on the displays.

I have no intention of using either of them as HDTVs, if that's what you're asking.
I've got a fairly nice 42" Panasonic Viera plasma (2009 model) for my console gaming and blu-ray watching. So the monitors will strictly be utilized for PC-based work and gaming.
2 monitors seems overkill. Just get a nice 30" IPS. Colors are better with IPS, but if you're into hardcore "twitch" gaming, will result in more ghosting than a TN. The colors on TN screens are not nearly as nice, though.

Edit: Also, if you're waiting for D3 to really dive into this thing, I'd just wait. Graphics cards will come a long way in ~6-7 months and chip prices will be down.

Given you mention D3, you should be good with IPS.
 

Revenant

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So whats the overall fell on SLI/Crossfire...


I considered going for a 6950 2gb for my build or doing two 6850's in crossfire.

Is 2 gpu's worth it? or is it a ton of headaches and extra problems?

If i build in may i'm hoping for something that'll do well with the big fall game lineup at 1920x1080
 

TheExodu5

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The trick to getting tidy cases is just routing all the cables in behind the motherboard tray. The better the case, the easier the job. Of course, some cases just don't allow for that.

Revenant said:
So whats the overall fell on SLI/Crossfire...


I considered going for a 6950 2gb for my build or doing two 6850's in crossfire.

Is 2 gpu's worth it? or is it a ton of headaches and extra problems?

If i build in may i'm hoping for something that'll do well with the big fall game lineup.

Go with 1 better GPU. 2 GPUs adds possible headaches, microstuttering, and incompatibilities.

I have a GTX 570 SLI setup, but I sometimes wish I would have just gotten a single GTX 580 instead, even though the overall performance would have been much lower.
 

Weenerz

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Cyrus365 said:
Hello All,

Need some serious advice, Been out of the game for a while.

Take a look at my build, any improvements or suggestions to get a better bang for my buck, or something that I should upgrade now. All suggestions greatly welcomed, haven't followed new comp trends for a while now, my last comp was amd 1900 like 5 years ago, still using it to this day. Not sure on the motherboard, but Asus is generally good quality or it when i was last researching specs and such. Not sure what the trends are, or what has changed.

Would like this comp to be as future proof as possible (I know that's impossible but would like to last me 3-4 years with minimal upgrading other than adding another graphic card or more ram)...

So on to the stuff:

Budget: $1200-1300 Pre Tax CDN


Main use: Gaming, some light photoshop, general usage (Word/Excel/PowerPoint, Web, 1080p playback).

Specific Games: SC II, Diablo III, and Skyrim, anything else I'd probably get on Consoles.

When will you build: There is no rush, I can still hold onto my AMD 1900+ for the time being, but it's starting to really show it's age when I have trouble watching youtube videos in HD (looks like a slideshow), don't game on it at all anymore. I'd build this computer in about a months time depending on local sales, and such, unless there something big coming this fall? If so what is it, and should I wait?

Will you be overclocking?: Yes

So onto the build:

Intel Core i7 2600K Quad Core Unlocked Hyperthreading Processor LGA1155 3.4GHZ Sandy Bridge 8MB: $309.99
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=57960&promoid=1280

ASUS P8P67 LE ATX LGA1155 P67 2PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 3PCI IDE USB3.0 Sandy Bridge B3 Motherboard: $139.99
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=59319&promoid=1280

G.SKILL Ripjaws X F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-24 Memory : $85.50
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=57953&promoid=1280

EVGA GeForce GTS 450 Superclocked Fermi 882MHZ 1024MB GDDR5 Dual DVI Mini-HDMI PCI-E DX11 Video Card : $129.99
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=55460&promoid=1280

OCZ FATAL1TY Series 750W ATX 24PIN SLI Ready Modular Cables 135mm Red Fan 80+ Bronze Power Supply: $79.99
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=53331&promoid=1280

Antec Dark Fleet DF-85 Full Tower Gaming Case ATX 12 Drive Bay No PS Top USB3.0 USB Audio: $124.99
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=54030&promoid=1280

Intel X25-V 40GB 2.5IN SATA2 SSD Solid State Disk Flash Drive Retail Box : $79.99
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=48984&promoid=1280

Western Digital WD20EARS Caviar Green 2TB SATA2 3Gbps 64MB Cache 3.5IN Hard Drive OEM : $79.99
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=49591&promoid=1280

Samsung SH-S222A/BEBE 22X Dual Layer DVD Writer Black IDE OEM $18.99
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=39427&promoid=1280

PC Assembly and Testing With 1 Year Limited NCIX System Warranty (PRE-CONFIG WIN. OS If Purchased): $50.00
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=7842

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64BIT DVD OEM: $99.99
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=45271&promoid=1280

Total:$1197.41 before taxes, with 45 MIR available as well.

Not sure about the Win 7, so that can be lowered by 100. As I mayget it cheaper through school, for 70 bucks rather than 100 bucks.

Also part of the package this was offered, not sure on if it's a waste:

Coolit Systems Eco CPU Water Cooling System AUTO-REGULATED & Maintenance Free LGA1366/1156/1155/AM3: $49.99
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=50327

Or gettting a good fan? if so what fan should I get.

Got questions on the Motherboard, Graphic card (But like I said just want to get a decent/good graphic card, and upgrade later down the road. unless there is deal to be had now). Also not sure on the casing, looks ugly?


I'd go with at least a GTX460 1gb, that GTS 450 is going to have issues with most newer games.
 
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