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"I need a New PC!" 2011 Edition of SSD's for everyone! |OT|

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mkenyon

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seeds19 said:
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Mi new rig:
AMD PHENOM X6 1090T
ASUS CROSSHAIR IV FORMULA
MSI GTX 560 TWIN FROZER II
4GB MUSHKIN SILVERLINE DDR3 1333
HDD SEAGATE 500GB
HDD SAMSUNG 750 GB
NOX APEX 600 W MODULAR
NZXT PHANTOM WHITE RED LIMITED

I'm happy with it, its worth the money expend extra cash to buy a SSD? only use this pc for gaming, and maybe photoshop (noob use)

You're going to love that motherboard. When overclocking, you've got to try out the RoG connect and see the tools available. It is so much fun. If you don't use the rig for *anything* else, even websurfing or random programs, you won't get as much out of an SSD as other folks. It is totally worth it though.

To everyone else: I need 3 parts for the finishing touches on my newest build. Could folks look out for the following parts on super sale for me: Sapphire 6870 (preferably the reference, but I'll be happy with one of their own coolers), any SSD sized between 90-120GBs, a good 21-23" monitor. Thanks!
 

mkenyon

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I should say, I need them in the States. Those prices after conversion would be crazy expensive. Also, the SSD needs to be 2.5" (already bought a 3.5" by mistake, won't fit in the crazy small enclosure).

I'm using the aluminum case that the Sapphire 6970 Vietnam edition comes in for a scratch build.
 

aznpxdd

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Got a really general question. If a motherboard comes with 2 PCI-E x16 slots for Xfire or SLi and I'm only going to use 1 GPU, I can put it in any of the 2 slots right? Or does it have to be the top one if I'm only using 1?
 

Kyaw

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I'm not so good with the e-tailers on the US side. Just check around Newegg. They seem to have the best prices and crazy discounts. Prices in US are so cheap compared to UK though...

@aznpxdd: Better to have the graphics card in the fastest slot (top slot) if you are using one.
 

mkenyon

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aznpxdd said:
Got a really general question. If a motherboard comes with 2 PCI-E x16 slots for Xfire or SLi and I'm only going to use 1 GPU, I can put it in any of the 2 slots right? Or does it have to be the top one if I'm only using 1?
Either is fine.

Kyaw said:
I'm not so good with the e-tailers on the US side. Just check around Newegg. They seem to have the best prices and crazy discounts. Prices in US are so cheap compared to UK though...
Yeah, I'm on all the newegg email lists, and just recently subscribed to Tiger Direct as well. There's a couple outlets that I just don't check too often that come up on here now and then, hence me asking. I'm not in any hurry to pick up the remaining parts, so I was waiting for a huge discount, especially since it's not a primary gaming rig.
 

Brandon F

Well congratulations! You got yourself caught!
Any recommendations on an upgrade from a Radeon 4890?

Looking at an XFX 6850 card. I suppose I will eventually want DX11 support, especially when it hits Crysis 2. This card seems to be a nice sweet spot for price and power. Any thoughts or recommendations?

How is Nvidia these days? PhysX worth switching teams?
 

TheExodu5

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Brandon F said:
Any recommendations on an upgrade from a Radeon 4890?

Looking at an XFX 6850 card. I suppose I will eventually want DX11 support, especially when it hits Crysis 2. This card seems to be a nice sweet spot for price and power. Any thoughts or recommendations?

How is Nvidia these days? PhysX worth switching teams?
6850 is not a worthwhile upgrade from a 4890.
 

nataku

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I forgot to ask this, but what's a good thermal paste to use now? I'm getting the Cooler Master Hyper 212+. I used to use Arctic Silver a couple years, but haven't been keeping up on thermal pastes.
 

mkenyon

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nataku said:
I forgot to ask this, but what's a good thermal paste to use now? I'm getting the Cooler Master Hyper 212+. I used to use Arctic Silver a couple years, but haven't been keeping up on thermal pastes.
Though Exodu5 speaks truth, the stuff that comes with the 212 will do you just fine.
 

Kyaw

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Brandon F said:
Any recommendations on an upgrade from a Radeon 4890?

Looking at an XFX 6850 card. I suppose I will eventually want DX11 support, especially when it hits Crysis 2. This card seems to be a nice sweet spot for price and power. Any thoughts or recommendations?

How is Nvidia these days? PhysX worth switching teams?

What is your budget?

6950 flashed to 6970 or 560 seems to be a worthwhile upgrade.

Or if you live in UK...

Gigabyte 480 SOC

or
Gigabyte 480 SE
use 'giga480' promo code for 10% off.

Very good coolers and performance if you dont mind a bit of extra heat and power consumption. They both should be better than 6850, 560, 6970 and could be overclocked to near 580 speeds. The SOC version is considerably better though.
 
Wow that was fast. New motherboard is already here. Quick question though. Do I still need to update the bios drivers or use the CD as I've already used it on the other one? I'm thinking that all that information is save solely to the hard-drive.
 

Cyrus365

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Kenka said:
Yeah, the P67 mobos are source of much headscratching.There is a good summary of their capablities one page earlier. I personally went the LE way knowing that SLI is not possible on it (Crossfire can be performed however).

edit : here it is :

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as you can see, you say bye bye to two additional USB 3.0 ports and some power supply configuration that I don't grasp. All in all, if OC can be performed on all P67, just go the cheap route.



re-EDIT : I feel sad a bit, various reports around the web show that the LE boards are pretty difficult to overclock because they don't have the normal settings for voltage and stuff.

Thanks that is a handy spreadsheet, looks like should go with the pro as LE looks to have a hard time do OC, and want to keep that option open.
 

Cyrus365

Neo Member
Hazaro said:
Yes

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+55 PRO and up is 8x/8x for xfire and sli. Otherwise its 16x and 4x which won't have much of an impact.
**Apparently there is more to the P67 chipset than just raw speed and such. A P67 16/4x will be just fine.
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2134562

+60 I'd get a 750W Corsair V2 since its build quality is much better, although it is a large step up in price. That OCZ is an ok PSU and will run just fine.

I'd get the 460 1GB at that price just because of the cooler if that is important to you. The 460 and 6850 are very close in performance and overclocking so it's not a big deal either way.

+20 Sub in a Black instead of Green for the HDD. Faster.

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From here you are still in budget and it is up to you if you'd like to spend another $100 on the GPU. If I was spending that much I certainly would make that investment. A step up to a 6950 2GB or GTX 560 is very nice at this price. Normally I'd put it in, but you do some Photoshop and the CPU upgrade is for that. If it's light photoshop, then a 2500K should be plenty fine, but I don't know if you do any 5 minute renders or something.
Either the Gigabyte or XFX 6950 2GB if you go for it.

4 vs 12 power reg is a huge step down. Those are what keep everything in check and are important for keeping an overclock stable and sometimes achieving a higher OC, at least in theory.

Thanks for the input will put your suggestion down, and see what I can do...

What do you think of the case, is it alright, is there something better, and will i have enough room in that mid-tower to do SLI/Crossfire...
 
opticalmace said:
So I currently have two 4870 1gbs (crossfire). I'm going to upgrade my CPU when Ivy Bridge rolls around (currently on an e8500 still).

If I were to sell the 4870s (worth about $70 each right now, based on craigslist), and upgrade to a 6950 (hopefully flashed to a 6970), would I see a performance increase? Would this make any sense?

I'm not particularly happy with how crossfire has worked out, and it wouldn't cost too much extra to upgrade if I were to sell these, but if I wait I could make a bigger upgrade later this year.

Any thoughts?
Bumping this for input. Any suggestions? Thanks.
 
Well, my new PC is done! Just installed the wireless card and that wraps it up.

Now, let me put some games to download from Steam so I can test this baby out!
 

Brandon F

Well congratulations! You got yourself caught!
Kyaw said:
What is your budget?

6950 flashed to 6970 or 560 seems to be a worthwhile upgrade.

Or if you live in UK...

Gigabyte 480 SOC

or
Gigabyte 480 SE
use 'giga480' promo code for 10% off.

Very good coolers and performance if you dont mind a bit of extra heat and power consumption. They both should be better than 6850, 560, 6970 and could be overclocked to near 580 speeds. The SOC version is considerably better though.

I'll happily spend up to $300. Anything beyond and it will HAVE to be a real worthwhile card that will last. I just am not sure how dated my 4890 card is these days. Not even sure if a DX 11 upgrade is even worthwhile yet.

Prob not going to do any overclocking or whatnot. Just want to slap it in and go pretty much.
 

TheExodu5

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Brandon F said:
I'll happily spend up to $300. Anything beyond and it will HAVE to be a real worthwhile card that will last. I just am not sure how dated my 4890 card is these days. Not even sure if a DX 11 upgrade is even worthwhile yet.

Prob not going to do any overclocking or whatnot. Just want to slap it in and go pretty much.
A 6850 is marginally faster than a 4890, which is why I said it wasn't worth it. A 6950, on the other hand, is at least 50% faster than a 4890. Whether that is worth $300 to you or not is another matter.
 

Lime

Member
Brandon F said:
I'll happily spend up to $300. Anything beyond and it will HAVE to be a real worthwhile card that will last. I just am not sure how dated my 4890 card is these days. Not even sure if a DX 11 upgrade is even worthwhile yet.

Prob not going to do any overclocking or whatnot. Just want to slap it in and go pretty much.

I upgraded from a 4890 to a 6950 and it was well worth it. But anything less would have been unacceptable. When you're already in the price range, you might as well get a decent card instead of a temporary solution.
 

Brandon F

Well congratulations! You got yourself caught!
TheExodu5 said:
A 6850 is marginally faster than a 4890, which is why I said it wasn't worth it. A 6950, on the other hand, is at least 50% faster than a 4890. Whether that is worth $300 to you or not is another matter.

Yea, I actually meant a 6950 card instead of 6850. Seems like a decent jump, but maybe not generational yet? newegg has em for around $250 which seems great.
 

Kyaw

Member
Brandon F said:
Yea, I actually meant a 6950 card instead of 6850. Seems like a decent jump, but maybe not generational yet? newegg has em for around $250 which seems great.

Does Newegg still stock the flashable to 6970 ones?

Is so, DO IT!
 
My Cooler Master Silent Pro M 600W came today and was installed. I should have taken pics but whatever. Love the look of it, though it clashes with my silver-backed case. And it's a bit heavy, making my tower top heavy, but again, a non-issue. Now all that's left is to buy a 560 Ti.
 

mkenyon

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Bidermaier said:

Great performance for sure. Running a 970 + 5870, and I destroy games.

Putting a 965 + 6870 into a scratch build as well (mostly for theme - AMD+Sapphire), but the performance is plenty enough for my current rig that I was totally happy to build another one.
 

Lesiroth

Member
I require consultation of the wise sages of PC-GAF on two matters:

- SSDs. From the moment they appeared, I completely ignored them. Now apparently they offer some nice benefits, I just want someone to give me the whole story about them and how much of a benefit they offer against traditional HDD setups.

- I need a worthwhile upgrade from my trusty 4850. While it has served me well, and its performance in recent games is still remarkably good, I can't take the constant sound of a helicopter beating in my PC anymore. Unfortunately, I'm too tight on cash these days, so anything that is a worthwhile upgrade, quieter than my current card, and less than $200 would be great.(Graphic Cards are expensive as fuck in Egypt :( )
 
Thinking of building a new rig in the next few months. I just went onto newegg and whipped up a selection of hardware. At Newegg prices it comes out around 2700$, a hefty chunk of change so it's making me a bit nervous. I spent around 2k on my last system in 2007, and while it can run any game out now and into next year at high (but not max) settings it's showing its age.

Before I even went investigating hardware I decided what my goals were. I knew right away I wanted a system that can play 3-d games. I don't really care about blu-ray, and I knew out of hand that triple-monitor setups would be too costly (also I have no space for that many monitors).

So what I am looking for is a high-end gaming machine that can handle 3-d on a single 22-24" monitor and won't need upgrading for the forseeable future, meaning years. I typically don't upgrade unless a part fails, and like to keep a system for 4-5 years.

Anyways, here's my list.

MSI P67A-GD65
SB Core I-7 2600k
8gb G.Skill RIPJAW
Corsair 1200 Watt
CM Hyper 212
Case
WD 640gb
EVGA GTX580 X 2
ASUS 23" /w Vision Kit
Windows 7
DVD-Drive

I know we should be seeing the GTX590 come out this week, but looking at the dual-gpu 6990 launch I have a feeling dual 580s will probably have better price/performance ratio and not sound like jet engines.

I've never done SLI, one thing that worries me is that I currently use PCI sound and network cards, and I'm not sure how to tell if I will have enough room for both of these on the motherboard along with those dual-slot 580's.

This is just some preliminary research as if I were to buy today, but I won't be purchasing for a while yet. However don't hit me too hard with "wait until the end of the year for X" suggestions, since there is always a better X coming out in 6-8 months.
 

Sanic

Member
I posted a bit over a week ago about how I had purchased a Galaxy GTX 460 768mb, and after thinking about it a bit and delving into things a bit deeper, I returned it. Now what i'm looking at is this, which a friend offered to sell me (used) for $160. It'll be $~30 less than I paid for my other card, and should be a bit more future proof. It seems like it'll offer the best value for that price range, and is apparently very good with overclocking.

Good buy?
 

Kyaw

Member
Pandoracell said:
I posted a bit over a week ago about how I had purchased a Galaxy GTX 460 768mb, and after thinking about it a bit and delving into things a bit deeper, I returned it. Now what i'm looking at is this, which a friend offered to sell me (used) for $160. It'll be $~30 less than I paid for my other card, and should be a bit more future proof. It seems like it'll offer the best value for that price range, and is apparently very good with overclocking.

Good buy?

Very good buy.
 

mojiimbo

Member
Building my first system and I just need the power supply, graphics card and DVD drive.

Pretty sure I'm going with an XFX 6870 since it costs the same as a 1GB EVGA GTX460 but I'm indecisive about the power supply. Anything wrong with going with an Antec True Power 650($80) or 750($90)? I have a limited budget(was initially hoping to be able to get a $50 PSU like the discounted modular XFX 650W from the other day) or else a Corsair would be a no brainer but it seems like that Antec would be the better value. I'm pretty set on ordering from Amazon because I have credit there and I'd like to take advantage of Prime to get those parts in by the weekend.

FWIW it'd be going into an Antec 902 and powering a 2500k with an Asus P8P67 Pro. Thanks.

EDIT:

Antec TP 750:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001RTPMM4/?tag=neogaf0e-20

XFX 6870:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0047ZH7GE/?tag=neogaf0e-20
 

Kyaw

Member
A 650w PSU is enough to power almost everything apart from the most power hungry CPUs/GFXs or multiple GPU setups. So go with that :)

Get any DVDRW with a sata connection, get the OEM version for maximum value.
 

Cyrus365

Neo Member
Any recommondations on a case that's under 140 range? Not sure but would like to keep the option of SLI/Crossfire open.

Want it to be quiet, and cool. Looking at mid-tower, don't want a monster sitting on my desk (It'll be sitting on top of desk, not underneath...)
 

CrankyJay

Banned
Cyrus365 said:
Any recommondations on a case that's under 140 range? Not sure but would like to keep the option of SLI/Crossfire open.

Want it to be quiet, and cool. Looking at mid-tower, don't want a monster sitting on my desk (It'll be sitting on top of desk, not underneath...)

Corsair 600T. You can find it on sale a few places for $140. I got mine back in January for $125 from Tiger Direct after discount + rebate. The case seems to be highly regarded but there are some questions/concerns about the stock cooling on it, but you can replace fans here and there as you go forward.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6610150&CatId=1842
 

Ecto311

Member
CrankyJay said:
..The case seems to be highly regarded but there are some questions/concerns about the stock cooling on it, but you can replace fans here and there as you go forward.

Get a case that fits these -
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200mm coolermaster fans. I just installed one last night in the top of my 912 haf case.
My hand from finger to thumb is just a bit over 9 inches if that is any indicator.
 

DEO3

Member
How hot are stock 6950s supposed to get? I'm solidly in high 80s/low 90s when playing games, which while safe for a GPU, still seems pretty damn hot, and is definitely hotter than the load temperatures I'm seeing in reviews for the card. The fan gets fairly audible, and I worry that my video card is throttling itself back half the time. I kind of wonder if I should've gotten a Directcu or Twinfrozr card now, since it looks like I'm going to want to spend the extra on an aftermarket cooler anyway.
 
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