MacAttack said:Ive spent the better part of the night researching how to configure my rig to rip/playback my Blu Ray collection and I have a couple questions.
Is a 2TB 5400RPM drive (Spinpoint F4 or WD Green) fast enough to playback uncompressed BD rips?
Im torn between two drives right now:
Samsung SH-B123L:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151222
LG UH10LS20:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136183
Both have riplock that limits the write speed. Their is modded firmware to remove the riplock on the LG and not the Sammy. Is this an advisable procedure? Im not concerned about warranties just about getting a reliable rip at fast speeds.
That M board (along with any mATX board) ditches a ton of slots for space. That model does not even have a PCI slot.-PXG- said:Well, I've been talking about making a new desktop for a while. After seeing Schlep's new rig, I thought it would be wise to start planning mine. He has a pretty nice setup, so I based mine off of his. Posting this for comments/ suggestions/ criticism.
SILVERSTONE Fortress Series FT03B Black Aluminum / Steel MicroATX Mini Tower Computer Case
ASUS P8P67-M PRO (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
Intel Core i5-2500 Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500
MSI N560GTX-TI Twin Frozr II/OC GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card (x 2)
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL (x 2)
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
ZALMAN CNPS9500 AT 2 Ball CPU Cooling Fan/Heatsink
CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply
leaving out OS and DVD drives, since those are obvious. Still debating whether or not if I will need wireless. If so, I will get this.
TP-LINK TL-WN722N IEEE 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 High Gain Wireless Adapter Up to 150Mbps Wireless Data Rates 64/128 bits WEP WPA/WPA2, WPA-PSK/WPA2-PSK (TKIP/AES)
P67 can run 2500 just fine, just no overclock.P67 mobo can't do 2500 CPU. P67 goes with xx00k, H67 goes with xx00. Also, even if you do go k series CPUs and OC both your proc and gpu, a 650W PSU would be perfectly fine, which would drop about $20.
-PXG- said:Well, I've been talking about making a new desktop for a while. After seeing Schlep's new rig, I thought it would be wise to start planning mine. He has a pretty nice setup, so I based mine off of his. Posting this for comments/ suggestions/ criticism.
SILVERSTONE Fortress Series FT03B Black Aluminum / Steel MicroATX Mini Tower Computer Case
ASUS P8P67-M PRO (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
Intel Core i5-2500 Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500
MSI N560GTX-TI Twin Frozr II/OC GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card (x 2)
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL (x 2)
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
ZALMAN CNPS9500 AT 2 Ball CPU Cooling Fan/Heatsink
CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply
leaving out OS and DVD drives, since those are obvious. Still debating whether or not if I will need wireless. If so, I will get this.
TP-LINK TL-WN722N IEEE 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 High Gain Wireless Adapter Up to 150Mbps Wireless Data Rates 64/128 bits WEP WPA/WPA2, WPA-PSK/WPA2-PSK (TKIP/AES)
InertiaXr said:P67 mobo can't do 2500 CPU. P67 goes with xx00k, H67 goes with xx00. Also, even if you do go k series CPUs and OC both your proc and gpu, a 650W PSU would be perfectly fine, which would drop about $20. Also, is there any particular reason you want or need a micro size case? By the way, I have the same wireless card, PSU, HDD, and RAM that you are looking at and they are all flawless. Wish I had gotten a 560Ti instead of a 460 though...
-PXG- said:Well, I've been talking about making a new desktop for a while. After seeing Schlep's new rig, I thought it would be wise to start planning mine. He has a pretty nice setup, so I based mine off of his. Posting this for comments/ suggestions/ criticism.
SILVERSTONE Fortress Series FT03B Black Aluminum / Steel MicroATX Mini Tower Computer Case
ASUS P8P67-M PRO (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
Intel Core i5-2500 Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500
MSI N560GTX-TI Twin Frozr II/OC GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card (x 2)
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL (x 2)
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
ZALMAN CNPS9500 AT 2 Ball CPU Cooling Fan/Heatsink
CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply
leaving out OS and DVD drives, since those are obvious. Still debating whether or not if I will need wireless. If so, I will get this.
TP-LINK TL-WN722N IEEE 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 High Gain Wireless Adapter Up to 150Mbps Wireless Data Rates 64/128 bits WEP WPA/WPA2, WPA-PSK/WPA2-PSK (TKIP/AES)
MisterNoisy said:Switch to a 2500K and a better CPU cooler as Hazaro recommends. Other than that, I like it - I think the FT-03 is the frickin bee's knees and definitely cool/different enough to want to plan a build around, even if you have to give up a couple of PCI/PCI-E x1 slots to do it. That said, the M-PRO is a pretty solid board.
If you need an mATX and know that you give up some slots, that is fine then.-PXG- said:ATX won't fit in that case. I need micro. Any suggestions for a mobo, that will be compatible with everything I have?
EDIT
Unless I'm blind, I'm not seeing the problem with my CPU and motherboard.
Hazaro said:If you need an mATX and know that you give up some slots, that is fine then.
*Few posts above you.
-PXG- said:My buddy who helped my choose the components was on my ass with going with the 2500K. If you guys say so, I guess spending the extra dough on it won't kill me.
Better cooler huh? Links?
Oh, and I'm assuming this CPU?
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K
Unknown Soldier said:A modern hard drive transfers anywhere from 50 MB/s to 100 MB/s. MegaBYTES per second. etc...
Schlep said:haha, thanks. I'm very interested in what kind of CPU idle temps you get with the 212+, you'll have to post back when you get it built.
Also, I agree with MisterNoisy on the RAM. It's actually about $15 cheaper to go the 2x4GB route and you leave two DIMMs open in case you want to expand to 16GB (!) in the future, lol. Oh, and you're aware that as far as optical drive, this case only accepts a slim slot-load drive, right? The other option would be an external drive.
For the questions around the motherboard, I went with that one specifically because I needed two PCIe slots. If you need a PCI slot instead, the EVO will save you $10.
I haven't installed this, but I'm thinking about it for some older games I have like Company of Heroes and Age of Empires 3.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004CJKVO0/?tag=neogaf0e-20
-PXG- said:Thanks. So here is the updated version:
SILVERSTONE Fortress Series FT03B Black Aluminum / Steel MicroATX Mini Tower Computer Case
ASUS P8P67-M PRO (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K
MSI N560GTX-TI Twin Frozr II/OC GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card (x 2)
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL (x 2)
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7
CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply
TP-LINK TL-WN722N IEEE 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 High Gain Wireless Adapter Up to 150Mbps Wireless Data Rates 64/128 bits WEP WPA/WPA2, WPA-PSK/WPA2-PSK (TKIP/AES)
MisterNoisy said:Looks like you're off to the races. I wanna see pics after you finish putting it together - that case is too cool for school.
Flying_Phoenix said:I'm using my PC on a big screen TV and am surfing the web and playing games via comfy couch.
However I need some new table tops to comfortably rest my mouse and keyboard.
haha, thanks. I'm very interested in what kind of CPU idle temps you get with the 212+, you'll have to post back when you get it built.-PXG- said:Well, I've been talking about making a new desktop for a while. After seeing Schlep's new rig, I thought it would be wise to start planning mine. He has a pretty nice setup, so I based mine off of his. Posting this for comments/ suggestions/ criticism.
SILVERSTONE Fortress Series FT03B Black Aluminum / Steel MicroATX Mini Tower Computer Case
ASUS P8P67-M PRO (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K
MSI N560GTX-TI Twin Frozr II/OC GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card (x 2)
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL (x 2)
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7
CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply
TP-LINK TL-WN722N IEEE 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 High Gain Wireless Adapter Up to 150Mbps Wireless Data Rates 64/128 bits WEP WPA/WPA2, WPA-PSK/WPA2-PSK (TKIP/AES)
I haven't installed this, but I'm thinking about it for some older games I have like Company of Heroes and Age of Empires 3.-PXG- said:Shit, I realized that a slim/ slot loading optical drive is required for my case. That, or go external. Any (cheap) recommendations?
MacAttack said:Not a table, but to get the most out of my comfy couch, I prefer this laptop tray. It has a retractable mouse tray and I can sit back in my chair and not have to lean forward. Nice and small so it makes for very easy storage.
http://reviews.logitech.com/7061/6073/logitech-portable-lapdesk-n315-reviews/reviews.htm
Only drawback is its a bit narrow (15" wide) and doesnt quite fit my full sized kb. Not a major issue since enough of the kb fits on the hard rubber surface it never moves unless I physically reposition it. Id wager a kb without a number pad would fit perfectly.
Schlep said:haha, thanks. I'm very interested in what kind of CPU idle temps you get with the 212+, you'll have to post back when you get it built.
Also, I agree with MisterNoisy on the RAM. It's actually about $15 cheaper to go the 2x4GB route and you leave two DIMMs open in case you want to expand to 16GB (!) in the future, lol. Oh, and you're aware that as far as optical drive, this case only accepts a slim slot-load drive, right? The other option would be an external drive.
For the questions around the motherboard, I went with that one specifically because I needed two PCIe slots. If you need a PCI slot instead, the EVO will save you $10.
I haven't installed this, but I'm thinking about it for some older games I have like Company of Heroes and Age of Empires 3.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004CJKVO0/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Actually I was thinking this set if you wanted to stick with 1600. They were on sale for $85 a few weeks ago, but it looks like they went back up. That said, I'm not sure how much difference you'd see by going with higher clocked RAM, but maybe someone else could confirm.-PXG- said:HA! I knew it. My friend insisted that the prospect of having over 8GB of RAM is foolish. Sure, with the current ones I have, my CAS latency would be lower, but the difference would be negligible. If I can save 15 bucks and give myself the room to upgrade later, why not?
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-8GBRL
momolicious said:just wondering, arent the closed silent cases like Fractal R3 bad airflow? I mean the front fan is covered
Flying_Phoenix said:I appreciate the recommendation but I don't want a lapdesk, I want a table.
MisterNoisyMisterNoisy said:Those cases don't have 'bad' airflow in the sense that Dell cases have bad airflow - far from it. They have plenty of ventilation through the inlets in the sides of the front bezel, etc.
The FD cases trade off some of the airflow you get in something like a HAF for significant noise suppression compared to the 'mesh box with a half-dozen fans cranking away in it'.
For a lot of people, the wind-tunnel effect that a bunch of fans in a close space generates is pretty intolerable, and with good component selection inside, you can mitigate a lot of the effect of the reduced airflow while still keeping your components cool with a LOT less noise.
I don't think I'd choose an unmodified FD case if I was looking to break the air-cooled overclocking record, but if I wanted a super-slick, cleanly styled and quiet case with a lot of amenities that still has decent airflow, the FD stuff would be on the short list.
MisterNoisy said:Those cases don't have 'bad' airflow in the sense that Dell cases have bad airflow - far from it. They have plenty of ventilation through the inlets in the sides of the front bezel, etc.
The FD cases trade off some of the airflow you get in something like a HAF for significant noise suppression compared to the 'mesh box with a half-dozen fans cranking away in it'.
For a lot of people, the wind-tunnel effect that a bunch of fans in a close space generates is pretty intolerable, and with good component selection inside, you can mitigate a lot of the effect of the reduced airflow while still keeping your components cool with a LOT less noise.
I don't think I'd choose an unmodified FD case if I was looking to break the air-cooled overclocking record, but if I wanted a super-slick, cleanly styled and quiet case with a lot of amenities that still has decent airflow, the FD stuff would be on the short list.
TheExodu5 said:NCIX has some pretty solid deals going on right now.
2600K + Asus P8P67 Deluxe for $510 CAD is pretty solid.
Unknown Soldier said:I was at Target earlier today and they were selling these TV trays for $8.99. A TV tray is a small table that you put in front of your couch so you can eat while watching TV. For that price I figured why the hell not and grabbed 2 of them. Anyways, to make a long story short, I needed to sit foward on my couch, not lean back, in order to comfortably reach the trays which had my keyboard and mouse on them without straining my arms. In the end I took 3 cushions and put them all in front of each other behind my back to move my sitting position forward. It works but is rather kludgey. I was able to play some Crysis this way, at any rate, but I don't know how comfortable it would be for extended gaming sessions.
What I really would be able to use is one of those trays people use to serve meals in bed. There are 2 kinds of those, the kind which sit directly on the bed on legs, and the other kind which hospitals use where the table rolls over the floor but the tray hangs over the bed so the patient can eat. Either of those I think would be ideal for this sort of thing.
DEO3 said:How hot are stock 6950s supposed to get? I'm solidly in high 80s/low 90s when playing games, which while safe for a GPU, still seems pretty damn hot, and is definitely hotter than the load temperatures I'm seeing in reviews for the card. The fan gets fairly audible, and I worry that my video card is throttling itself back half the time. I kind of wonder if I should've gotten a Directcu or Twinfrozr card now, since it looks like I'm going to want to spend the extra on an aftermarket cooler anyway.
TheExodu5 said:Low 90s is definitely sounding hot. A friend of mine has a reference XFX 6950 (in a HAF 922 case), and he says it's pretty quiet (fan 40-60%) with temps hovering around 70-80C.
RiverBed said:Well, it's the 24th: where are those 590 reviews and benchmarks?
-PXG- said:Oh, the ASUS P8P67-M PRO mobo has built-in optical s/pdif output. Will my 5.1 headphones + amp work, or do I need a sound card? If I need a card, then I can kiss having two GPUs goodbye, since they'll take up so much space anyway.
To buy? No way in hell.Kenka said:Are you really interested in a 800$ + card ?
I'd be wary of iBuyPower. Their customer service is terrible.shouamabane said:I'm looking to buy a PC online. I'm not sure all of the selections I made. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.
RiverBed said:I would update the RAM from 4G to 6G.
Plus, if you can show the price for each item- at least for the more expensive ones- maybe you can get suggestions for cheaper alternatives.
The card also does operate way too quietly than the rival at only 49dbA against the 60dbA of the competitor card but still is a few dbA louder than the GTX 580
Read more: http://wccftech.com/2011/03/24/yeston-geforce-gtx-590-leaked/#ixzz1HW8i01JN
that's pretty much normal with fan in auto mode (should be more or less at 40% at that point).DEO3 said:How hot are stock 6950s supposed to get? I'm solidly in high 80s/low 90s when playing games, which while safe for a GPU, still seems pretty damn hot, and is definitely hotter than the load temperatures I'm seeing in reviews for the card. The fan gets fairly audible (...)
60% fan on the 69xx is no where near "pretty quiet". 40% is audible but not bothersome, 60% is fairly loud, more than what the difference in fan speed would let you think.TheExodu5 said:Low 90s is definitely sounding hot. A friend of mine has a reference XFX 6950 (in a HAF 922 case), and he says it's pretty quiet (fan 40-60%) with temps hovering around 70-80C.
Manp said:that's pretty much normal with fan in auto mode (should be more or less at 40% at that point).
60% fan on the 69xx is no where near "pretty quiet". 40% is audible but not bothersome, 60% is fairly loud, more than whet the difference in fan speed would let you think.
100% is insane.
Unknown Soldier said:What I really would be able to use is one of those trays people use to serve meals in bed. There are 2 kinds of those, the kind which sit directly on the bed on legs, and the other kind which hospitals use where the table rolls over the floor but the tray hangs over the bed so the patient can eat. Either of those I think would be ideal for this sort of thing.