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Dog Problems
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Damnit, that reminds me that I still need to get more hardcores for my games.
Ploid 3.0
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I've been looking for a $600 prebuilt pc and came across these, figured I'd see what you guys think. Going to be new to pc gaming outside of having a pc (old old, agp) already and trying to just throw in a card to see if games work.
iBUYPOWER Gamer Power 567D3 Phenom II X4 925(2.8GHz) 4GB DDR3 1TB HDD Capacity ATI Radeon HD 5570 Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
iBUYPOWER LAN Warrior 531B3 Athlon II X4 640(3.0GHz) 4GB DDR3 1TB HDD Capacity NVIDIA GeForce GT 430 Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
I'd upgrade them later but for now just getting my foot in.
iBUYPOWER Gamer Power 567D3 Phenom II X4 925(2.8GHz) 4GB DDR3 1TB HDD Capacity ATI Radeon HD 5570 Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
iBUYPOWER LAN Warrior 531B3 Athlon II X4 640(3.0GHz) 4GB DDR3 1TB HDD Capacity NVIDIA GeForce GT 430 Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
I'd upgrade them later but for now just getting my foot in.
Ploid 3.0 said:
I would see if you can find a shop that will take the components you pick out and build your computer for you for a fee. Either that, or try to see if you have a nerd friend or college kid you can pay. For their "resume" just ask them to show you a build they did - if it's to your liking, pay them. I would imagine you could pay someone up to $150-$200 and pick out nice components (we'll all help you, of course) and get more bang/buck than the above.
The problem with those PCs above is not that they are not that great for gaming ( they aren't) but that they are built to cost $600 so it is highly likely that if you want to upgrade them later (as you say) you may have to (at a minimum) upgrade the PSU along with whatever component you add (i.e. graphics card). Food for thought. I won't tell you to build when you don't want to, but investigate if there are places that will build for you. That will get you the best of both worlds and still not cost a fortune.
nincompoop
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So, uh, is it bad that Speedfan and Hmonitor are reporting my CPU as running at 85°C? The individual core temperatures are in the 30s, and when I checked in the BIOS the CPU temp was idling at 45°. The temperature didn't change when I moved the PC to improve the air supply either.
nincompoop
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OK thanks *unloads bullets from gun*knitoe said:
Quicksilver4648
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Status update! I got it to post! I am getting ready to burn Windows 7 Ultimate to a disk for installation but I am playing around with the uEFI BIOS now. I took plenty of pictures. So far my first build is a success.Quicksilver4648 said:
However, obviously this is just first boot up, but I am getting idle temps around 41-42 Celsius. I know it will go down a few degrees as the paste settles but is this an okay level? I haven't started any heavy testing yet. Just baby steps.
So does anyone have any opinions on AOC monitors? One is on sale at best buy, 23 inch for 150 i think. Now I know I'd probably be better off shopping online but I have a crap ton of best buy gift cards so best buy would be the best place for me...
so anyway, AOC monitors? good, bad, or ugly?
so anyway, AOC monitors? good, bad, or ugly?
Asus p8p67
Intel i5 2500k overclocked to 4.5ghz
4 gb ddr3 1333
AMD 6950 w/ shaders unlocked
120 GB Vertex 2 SSD
1 TB WD Caviar Black
650 watt Corsair modular PSU
Cooler Master HAF 922
Cooler Master Hyper 212
I can hide wires pretty well but I can't keep a desk clear for shit:
Not a great way to judge performance but the scores look nice:
Intel i5 2500k overclocked to 4.5ghz
4 gb ddr3 1333
AMD 6950 w/ shaders unlocked
120 GB Vertex 2 SSD
1 TB WD Caviar Black
650 watt Corsair modular PSU
Cooler Master HAF 922
Cooler Master Hyper 212
I can hide wires pretty well but I can't keep a desk clear for shit:
Not a great way to judge performance but the scores look nice:
Wrekt said:
You sexy MF! I need to get on my cable management. My cables are out of the way so they aren't causing airflow problems but they don't look nearly as neat as yours. I hang my head in shame.
Interestingly enough, I ran the "Windows Experience Index" after reading yours and my i5 2500k @ 4.7GHz came in behind yours at 7.6. I wonder if it's because I'm still using mechanical hard drives in mine (5.9 for that score). Interesting!
What do you have your unlocked shader Radeon 6950 clocked to (engine/memory)? Enjoy!
black_vegeta
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Looks awesome Wrekt.
Hawk269
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knitoe said:
WoW dude that is like almost word for word from the ASUS web site. I was on there due to getting an error EA (go figure..fucking E.A.), but as I was looking the temp question was asked and the answer was almost exactly what you wrote.
For those getting the P8P67 boards there is a small issue which actually is on Intel's end where the system at times will not want to recover from sleep mode. last night on the nigt that my rig came alive, I left it on overnight to download my steam games, when I awoke I was greeted with this EA error code, had to go to work but a friend looked it up for me and the fix. There is also a new bios driver as well that helps with the issue.
Hawk269
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As a relative noob to PC gaming, I learned alot from some of you here and with advice I read alot about overclocking my GPU. Now that I upgraded my Mother Board to the Asus p8p67 with a Sandy Brige processor, I wanted to overclock it but it seemed llike it was going to be more of a pain the ass than doing the GPU.
That is until the joys of ASUS new EFI Bios Utility. Basically it is a rehauled Bios that you use with you mouse. Everything is click and point and so freaking easy. I have never, ever overclocked a CPU and I had my processor himming at 4.5 in about 3 minutes or less. The easy mode, you just set it to high performance in teh EFI Bios, save it and your done. It does all the voltage tweaks for you. The advanced menu lets you get more to the metal perse, but for noob going from 3.4 to 4.5 that fast, stable and tested is pretty amazing.
There is alot to the EFI Bios and the rest of the ASUS programs. You still have the programs that you launch via Windows that you can do some Overclocking, but you have to save and load the profiles as you need them, while via Bios it saves it and boots each time. Using the "Auto" option, I had Fast and Extreme to choose from. The program auto calibrated and had a good OC at 4.4, using Extreme it capped out at 5.2 with my HF212 cooler before it stopped due to the heat. But a stable 4.8 easily with the HF212 cooler.
Anyways, even with a tech problem I had with an error code, I am really blown away on how easy ASUS made it for me to OC my processor.
That is until the joys of ASUS new EFI Bios Utility. Basically it is a rehauled Bios that you use with you mouse. Everything is click and point and so freaking easy. I have never, ever overclocked a CPU and I had my processor himming at 4.5 in about 3 minutes or less. The easy mode, you just set it to high performance in teh EFI Bios, save it and your done. It does all the voltage tweaks for you. The advanced menu lets you get more to the metal perse, but for noob going from 3.4 to 4.5 that fast, stable and tested is pretty amazing.
There is alot to the EFI Bios and the rest of the ASUS programs. You still have the programs that you launch via Windows that you can do some Overclocking, but you have to save and load the profiles as you need them, while via Bios it saves it and boots each time. Using the "Auto" option, I had Fast and Extreme to choose from. The program auto calibrated and had a good OC at 4.4, using Extreme it capped out at 5.2 with my HF212 cooler before it stopped due to the heat. But a stable 4.8 easily with the HF212 cooler.
Anyways, even with a tech problem I had with an error code, I am really blown away on how easy ASUS made it for me to OC my processor.
Net_Wrecker
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Wrekt said:
I've been reading about the HAF 922 having grounding issues with the front panel which causes instant shutdowns. Considering the 922 was my first choice as a case for my build later this year, you having any problems with that?
It's OEM so if you change a part you'll need to get a new copy iirc. I recently replaced a motherboard with Win 7 and it made me enter the OEM key again even though it was the same model. Not sure if you change a part if it invalidates, maybe someone can clarify. OS is not my strong suit.Ploid 3.0 said:
You want to manually set the voltage. I'd keep it below 1.27V.Hawk269 said:
BloodySinner
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I hate all the people in this thread who have better PC specs than I do. 
Quicksilver4648
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Yesterday you would have been wrong, but after today you are correct. The new desktop I made today is much better than my three year old laptop.BloodySinner said:I hate all the people in this thread who have better PC specs than I do.
BloodySinner said:I hate all the people in this thread who have better PC specs than I do.
You could get a 990x with the UD9, 32GB 2400mhz ram at cas9, 2 HDSL Drives, 2 revodrive x2's, 4 GTX580s, a 1500W psu, 3 1080p 3d projectors, a theatre, and infinite beverage of your choice. And by next week something will be better.
Baller. PhD
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Ok GAF, I'm just about ready to start pulling the trigger on my next build. I haven't built a new PC since the era of the Radeon 9800 Pro (been using laptops primarily due to being in the military). I'm out of the military now and ready to get my shit back together. I'd like to maintain 4.5ghz stable if possible. Here's what I've got for now:
Total price: $1, 698.71 after rebates. A little steeper than I planned but whatever. I'm not a big upgrader, the only thing I'll change is the GPU in a few years. Oh, I do plan on adding a Vertex 3 when they're easier to buy.
I'm a bit concerned about noise, especially from the H70. I've read that they can be noisy? I just don't know what would be a better choice for both my overclocking goals and noise. The modern air heatsinks I've seen in this thread look like fucking jet engines. :lol
I'm also confused by the P8P67 line. From the spec sheets it would seem that I'd be fine with the plain ATX P8P67. Why are the Pro and Deluxe versions so popular? I used the Deluxe for my list because I couldn't find the Pro initially. When are these boards supposed to be back in stock?
Anyway please advise! Thanks.
Total price: $1, 698.71 after rebates. A little steeper than I planned but whatever. I'm not a big upgrader, the only thing I'll change is the GPU in a few years. Oh, I do plan on adding a Vertex 3 when they're easier to buy.
I'm a bit concerned about noise, especially from the H70. I've read that they can be noisy? I just don't know what would be a better choice for both my overclocking goals and noise. The modern air heatsinks I've seen in this thread look like fucking jet engines. :lol
I'm also confused by the P8P67 line. From the spec sheets it would seem that I'd be fine with the plain ATX P8P67. Why are the Pro and Deluxe versions so popular? I used the Deluxe for my list because I couldn't find the Pro initially. When are these boards supposed to be back in stock?
Anyway please advise! Thanks.
Holy shit, the Accelero Xtreme Plus is huuuuuge.
You may remember me from post 8802, where I had to use a hacksaw on my case in order to get my stock 6950 to fit. Well, I haven't been happy with the temperatures/noise the 6950 was putting out when overclocked so I decided to order an aftermarket cooler. The AXP is one of the best on the market, and can be had for under $50, but God damn - it added another two and a half inches to my 6950!
Time to break out the hacksaw again...
You may remember me from post 8802, where I had to use a hacksaw on my case in order to get my stock 6950 to fit. Well, I haven't been happy with the temperatures/noise the 6950 was putting out when overclocked so I decided to order an aftermarket cooler. The AXP is one of the best on the market, and can be had for under $50, but God damn - it added another two and a half inches to my 6950!
Time to break out the hacksaw again...
evil solrac v3.0
Member
question, would it be worth to buy an SSD for the OS and programs and two hard drives and put them at RAID 0 for games only? is that even possible?
Baller. PhD
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Saw that chart, but I'm asking for info that isn't in the chart. There has to be a reason why so many people go with the Pro/Deluxe over the base model. Is overclocking easier/more efficient? etc.Velion said:
Thanks for the thermal compound though, I'll look into that.
Baller said:Ok GAF, I'm just about ready to start pulling the trigger on my next build. I haven't built a new PC since the era of the Radeon 9800 Pro (been using laptops primarily due to being in the military). I'm out of the military now and ready to get my shit back together. I'd like to maintain 4.5ghz stable if possible. Here's what I've got for now:
Total price: $1, 698.71 after rebates. A little steeper than I planned but whatever. I'm not a big upgrader, the only thing I'll change is the GPU in a few years. Oh, I do plan on adding a Vertex 3 when they're easier to buy.
I'm a bit concerned about noise, especially from the H70. I've read that they can be noisy? I just don't know what would be a better choice for both my overclocking goals and noise. The modern air heatsinks I've seen in this thread look like fucking jet engines. :lol
I'm also confused by the P8P67 line. From the spec sheets it would seem that I'd be fine with the plain ATX P8P67. Why are the Pro and Deluxe versions so popular? I used the Deluxe for my list because I couldn't find the Pro initially. When are these boards supposed to be back in stock?
Anyway please advise! Thanks.
-Samsung Spinpoint F3 instead of caviar black.
-PRO or EVO instead of Deluxe, its not worth the extra money for the deluxe. (Deluxe has more power phase for voltage regulation, not necessary at 4.5GHz or 5 for that matter)
-Noctua NH-D14, cheaper, quieter, and just as effective at cooling as the H70. (Or cooler master 212 for even cheaper, 4.5 should be no problem on any of the 3)
-2500k instead of the 2600k unless you do something other then gaming thats CPU intensive.
Otherwise looks good and welcome back to PC building.
cartman414
Member
Also, get an SSD as boot drive. The Vertex 3 is coming out right at this moment.
Baller said:Ok GAF, I'm just about ready to start pulling the trigger on my next build. I haven't built a new PC since the era of the Radeon 9800 Pro (been using laptops primarily due to being in the military). I'm out of the military now and ready to get my shit back together. I'd like to maintain 4.5ghz stable if possible. Here's what I've got for now:
Total price: $1, 698.71 after rebates. A little steeper than I planned but whatever. I'm not a big upgrader, the only thing I'll change is the GPU in a few years. Oh, I do plan on adding a Vertex 3 when they're easier to buy.
I'm a bit concerned about noise, especially from the H70. I've read that they can be noisy? I just don't know what would be a better choice for both my overclocking goals and noise. The modern air heatsinks I've seen in this thread look like fucking jet engines. :lol
I'm also confused by the P8P67 line. From the spec sheets it would seem that I'd be fine with the plain ATX P8P67. Why are the Pro and Deluxe versions so popular? I used the Deluxe for my list because I couldn't find the Pro initially. When are these boards supposed to be back in stock?
Anyway please advise! Thanks.
Heatsinks are only as loud as their fans. I'm running a Venomous X with push-pull 800 RPM fans, and it's very quiet.
The Pro and Deluxe really only add the option of going SLI. Not really needed otherwise.
For the amount you're spending on a build, I'd get an SSD.
Drop the 2TB Black to a 2TB Samsung F4 or Seagate 5900 RPM drive. The difference in loading on those drives isn't that much. Drop the 2600K to a 2500K as well, unless you really need the hyper threading. That will free up $200 to put towards an SSD.
Unknown Soldier
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DEO3 said:
If I were you I would bite the bullet and buy a new case. You're going to have to someday anyways since you've already sawed away at it.
Any thoughts on:
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=49819&promoid=1306
1000 W Power Supply, want to Crossfire eventually a couple 6950 down the road.
For now, just one 6950, and overclocking i2500K.
OR stick with a Corsair 750W
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=49819&promoid=1306
1000 W Power Supply, want to Crossfire eventually a couple 6950 down the road.
For now, just one 6950, and overclocking i2500K.
OR stick with a Corsair 750W
God damn, I should've bought an SSD sooner. Win7 took no more than 9 or 10 minutes to install, and the wait is only 2 or 3 seconds from the "Welcome" screen to being able to actually use your computer.
On the downside, my other drives feel slow as shit now.
On the downside, my other drives feel slow as shit now.
black_vegeta
Member
JaseC said:
That means time to buy mo SSD's drives mang!
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