Looks very nice, I want to do a good cable management like that when my parts arrive.
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Looks very nice, I want to do a good cable management like that when my parts arrive.
faceless007
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For a small but annoying reason, I'm considering replacing my motherboard, Asus P8Z77-V, with the P8Z77-V Pro. If I do that, will I need to reinstall Windows and everything from scratch, or should I be able to just swap out mobos, plug everything in and boot as normal? It looks like the hardware and onboard devices are almost all the same on the Pro version (the only addition is an extra AsMedia USB3.0 chip).
Rest of the system is 3570K, Crucial m4 SSD, WD 1.5TB Caviar Black, 8GB Gskill DDR3.
Rest of the system is 3570K, Crucial m4 SSD, WD 1.5TB Caviar Black, 8GB Gskill DDR3.
I've seen other people post that they were able to just plug everything back in and Windows didn't say anything. Why are you going to the Pro btw? I just ordered the Pro a couple days ago because it was the same price as the -V with a coupon on newegg, but I thought most of the changes were superficial.
Also, did you try out the wifi on the -v?
ipitydatfu
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MisterNoisy
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It's a Xigmatek Thor's Hammer, with a couple of Cooler Master R4 Blade Masters on it. I wouldn't recommend it unless you really dig the look and/or have a friend to help you with installation - the mounting system is secure and it cools pretty well, but it's a complete pain in the ass to install.
Just so you know, it's 25% of the _difference_, not 25% off of the total price. So if it's something that they are 5$ more expensive on, they will match it plus take another 25% of 5$ off, so another $1.25.
Other than that. Good place. I get most of my stuff from them these days.
It is always a good idea to reformat between major hardware changes. Always.
I'm going with an i7 3770k and an Asus P8Z77- What's the easiest and most stable way for me to do RAID-1? Buy a different motherboard with Raid integrated (any good ones?) or buy a separate controller card? Any recommendations there?
I want a 1tb Raid array for data backup and then a 256gb SSD for boot and scratch disk.
edit: On closer inspection does the P8z77 do Raid 1? I can't tell. One spec suggests it does.
I want a 1tb Raid array for data backup and then a 256gb SSD for boot and scratch disk.
edit: On closer inspection does the P8z77 do Raid 1? I can't tell. One spec suggests it does.
Seraphinianus
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i5-2500k is $169.99 at microcenter!!
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0354589&bc=
I bought one in store, not sure how their shipping policies are. but that's about as cheap as it will get, eh?
edit: shit, it's in-store only. well, hopefully someone else makes use of this.
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0354589&bc=
I bought one in store, not sure how their shipping policies are. but that's about as cheap as it will get, eh?
edit: shit, it's in-store only. well, hopefully someone else makes use of this.
The ti seems to be the closest to my price range
What is the major advantage to going 2gig over 1gig besides spending ~50 more bucks?
If you use lots of AA and/or super high res, you need more VRAM to use. It's like regular RAM, it only matters if you run out. There aren't any games AFAIK that use more than 1GB at 1080p.
*edit*
Thanks Exodu5!
How about Metro or Witcher 2?
Looks good. I can never remember if it is the LE or LX that has a really gimped overclocking ability. I think it's the LE though.
Boss Man
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Can anyone look over the parts that I've thrown together on Neweggt:
http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=14363089
I'm just wondering if I've done anything stupid, mismatched something, made a poor choice, or am missing something. To my knowledge, I just need to add a hard drive (and maybe some kind of cooling system?).
Some things are out of stock, and I'm not going to be buying this right now anyway so I'll just swap things out when I'm actually able to start buying. I just want to know if I've got the right idea. General suggestions are also very welcome, although I am on a budget so do it with that in mind.
http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=14363089
I'm just wondering if I've done anything stupid, mismatched something, made a poor choice, or am missing something. To my knowledge, I just need to add a hard drive (and maybe some kind of cooling system?).
Some things are out of stock, and I'm not going to be buying this right now anyway so I'll just swap things out when I'm actually able to start buying. I just want to know if I've got the right idea. General suggestions are also very welcome, although I am on a budget so do it with that in mind.
GTA IV definitely does. BF3 also benefits greatly from the increased VRAM (even my GTX 570 had some noticeable VRAM swapping going on at times).
MisterNoisy
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Boss Man
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Nope, I just sort of looked at reviews / prices. Thank you.
I'm going to put quite a bit more thought into it before I actually buy anything, I'm just worried that there are things I'm not considering or something.
Is this front chassis USB cord supposed to be plugged into...
One of these? The cord is just four pin, while the males are 9-pin, right? Do I need some sort of transfer cable or something?
Yep!
Yes.
Traditionally, front USB ports are in pairs, but your case only has one USB port. That means, your plug will only take either the upper or lower half of the pin port. You won't need a cable adapter.
Just be sure the last pin (with no wire) is on the right side (assuming you are reading the motherboard lettering right side up).
Traditionally, front USB ports are in pairs, but your case only has one USB port. That means, your plug will only take either the upper or lower half of the pin port. You won't need a cable adapter.
Just be sure the last pin (with no wire) is on the right side (assuming you are reading the motherboard lettering right side up).
Great, thanks! My chassis also has a USB3 port on the front, alas my MB doesn't have a plug for USB3 (but has two USB3 built in to the back, so eh life goes on).
faceless007
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Pro has 4 fan connectors, non-Pro has 3. I thought I could plug in my 4th fan into CPU_OPT, but it just runs at full speed and can't be controlled separately, so I have negative pressure.
I tried out the Wi-fi thing that lets you use your smartphone to control the computer, kinda cool.
Those pictures you showed us are for the USB 2.0 port, right?
I'm not familiar with the pinouts for the front USB 3.0 port (yet). I believe there are a lot more pins this time around.
MisterNoisy
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Is this front chassis USB cord supposed to be plugged into...
One of these? The cord is just four pin, while the males are 9-pin, right? Do I need some sort of transfer cable or something?
The 9-pin USB motherboard header is actually 2 of those 4-pin layouts stacked side by side in the same orientation, with a dead pin to make sure you connect it properly. You can connect that to the same header - just make sure you match the orientation:
Nah, that's something else.
Bah, the wire occluded the pins and I've never seen a SATA port like that so I assumed it was
As long as you make sure to wear wool socks and a knitted sweater, hopefully during very humid/stormy weather, nothing can go wrong.
Rule #1 of computer building is to stop being afraid of it. If it isn't gold (fingers on RAM and videocards where they slot in) or the CPU itself, everything is really durable. You aren't going to break it!
This is in case the sarcasm wasn't apparent
Rule #1 of computer building is to stop being afraid of it. If it isn't gold (fingers on RAM and videocards where they slot in) or the CPU itself, everything is really durable. You aren't going to break it!
bodyboarder
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Anyone had an experience with this case
http://au.thermaltake.com/products-model.aspx?id=C_00001615
More importantly will the psu be good enough for a 6870?
http://au.thermaltake.com/products-model.aspx?id=C_00001615
More importantly will the psu be good enough for a 6870?
Zombie James
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EternalGamer
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I admit to knowing very little about this company, but in general with cases with Power supplies built in, the power supply is crap. You dont want your shit fucked up, the power supply is the most important part. Especially if you p,an on over clocking. Begetter to cut back elsewhere. You can get a decent power supply for around $35.
bodyboarder
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They are, just figured I'd check this one out as thermal take make cases and psu's so it shouldnt be too terrible.
Infinite Justice
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to be fair that's how it usually goes with these things
Seraphinianus
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Just ordered the "Enhanced" set up from the OP, with these differences:
The Samsung RAM talked about in the last page or so:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147094
This EVGA GTX 570 that just went on sale:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130593
I should still be fine with the 550w PSU, right?
The Samsung RAM talked about in the last page or so:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147094
This EVGA GTX 570 that just went on sale:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130593
I should still be fine with the 550w PSU, right?
opticalmace
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Seraphinianus
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Thank you for posting this! Was looking at cards the past few days and it is in my price range and what was suggested to me. Gonna order one right away!
Seraphinianus
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fist bump
I read it's a step up from 560ti mentioned in the OP and the sale price made the price difference negligible, seemed like a good deal. I had good experiences with EVGA before too.
All my cards have been EVGA - never had issues so I've never felt a reason to switch. Just ordered mine. Feels good to upgrade finally.
JetBlackPanda
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I have a quick question:
I am putting together my build right now and my case came with a fan. the cable that comes from it is a tiny 4 pin mobo connecter a 3 pin molex and a 4 pin molex. (male and female)
can I just hook a lead from my PSU into the 3 pin to run the fan?
I am putting together my build right now and my case came with a fan. the cable that comes from it is a tiny 4 pin mobo connecter a 3 pin molex and a 4 pin molex. (male and female)
can I just hook a lead from my PSU into the 3 pin to run the fan?
Yes you can do that if there is no where to plug it into your mobo, it will just run at full blast as opposed to being controllable.
JetBlackPanda
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thank you!
one more quick question. I am waiting for my ram to come in the mail tomorrow so my entire computer is built without any ram. I know it wont post but should it give me error beeps??
when I use the power button the fans spin for a second then just go off.
thanks.
Hawk269
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I think I want to go "real" water cooling for my rig. I have been doing some reading and looking into some stuff and just need to get some feedback on how easy it is to do and if I am selecting apropriate parts or if I am missing something. Here is what I got so far, with links if any can please check it out for me.
Radiator:
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1...or_-_11_FPI_-_Black_HX-360HL_No_Nozzles_.html
Reservoir/Pump Combo Unit:
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1..._Reservoir_-_w_D5_Variant_Pump_Installed.html
Cpu Block:
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/7...5_1156_1366_2011_939_940_754_AM2_AM2_AM3.html
Tubing:
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1...lamps_Tube_Cutter_12ID_x_34OD_-_Clear_UV.html
Coolant:
http://koolance.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=0_58&product_id=489
GPU Block:
http://koolance.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=2059
I know I need fittings that connect to the parts, but kind of unclear on which ones I need. There are some called barbs and nozzles, which look the same, but unsure.
Thanks to anyone that is willing to help..this will be my first water anything other than using a H100. Also wondering if what I listed above is enough to water cool both the CPU and 2xGPU's.
Radiator:
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1...or_-_11_FPI_-_Black_HX-360HL_No_Nozzles_.html
Reservoir/Pump Combo Unit:
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1..._Reservoir_-_w_D5_Variant_Pump_Installed.html
Cpu Block:
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/7...5_1156_1366_2011_939_940_754_AM2_AM2_AM3.html
Tubing:
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1...lamps_Tube_Cutter_12ID_x_34OD_-_Clear_UV.html
Coolant:
http://koolance.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=0_58&product_id=489
GPU Block:
http://koolance.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=2059
I know I need fittings that connect to the parts, but kind of unclear on which ones I need. There are some called barbs and nozzles, which look the same, but unsure.
Thanks to anyone that is willing to help..this will be my first water anything other than using a H100. Also wondering if what I listed above is enough to water cool both the CPU and 2xGPU's.
JetBlackPanda
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Nevemind... Herp I forgot the 12v 4 pin connectors.
YGPM!
To answer some of your questions:
1) This is directly tied to tubing and preference. I like barbs because they're a lot cleaner and super easy to work with. Done properly, you essentially bond the plastic to the fitting. Doesn't come off unless you take a blade to it.
2) Not even close. I'd lean towards 2x360mm and 1x240 at the minimum. The rad you listed has pretty limited cooling potential, with low FPI and a thin profile. Aside from the Alphacool Nexxos rads, the general rule of thumb is - High fin density thin radiators = low fin density thick radiators, but you need to use high RPM fans to get there. Low FPI means that a slower moving fan will be able to cool more since there is less resistance. When you have low FPI on a thin radiator, you severely limit cooling potential.
To answer some of your questions:
1) This is directly tied to tubing and preference. I like barbs because they're a lot cleaner and super easy to work with. Done properly, you essentially bond the plastic to the fitting. Doesn't come off unless you take a blade to it.
2) Not even close. I'd lean towards 2x360mm and 1x240 at the minimum. The rad you listed has pretty limited cooling potential, with low FPI and a thin profile. Aside from the Alphacool Nexxos rads, the general rule of thumb is - High fin density thin radiators = low fin density thick radiators, but you need to use high RPM fans to get there. Low FPI means that a slower moving fan will be able to cool more since there is less resistance. When you have low FPI on a thin radiator, you severely limit cooling potential.
Infinite Justice
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Interesting that i'm not seeing any Gigabyte motherboard mentions in here.
Are they not good?
Are they not good?
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