Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Doesn't M4 suck compared to others though?
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"I need a New PC!" 2012 Thread. 22nm+28nm, Tri-Gate, and reading the OP. [Part 1]
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Nah. Crucial, Samsung, and Intel are the big three to get when it comes to SSDs.
Slayer-33
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lol @ Amazon I can get it for $64 because of $25 credit GC I got from my bank.
The M4/830 are two of the best SSDs you can buy
Celcius
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I thought this GTX 280 SC would be too old to run BF3 decently, but it's been a pleasant experience. Running on high settings @ 1080p with only 8x AA and no AO provides a nice smooth framerate and it still looks pretty good as well. Made me realize that you don't have to have the latest hardware to enjoy the latest games. 
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Does Crucial use something other than sandforce then? I thought they were in the group of the crappy sandforce but apparently I'm remembering incorrectly. Which would you get for the $10 price difference? Crucial or samsung?
I'm still bitter I don't have the 256GB I ordered because of bhphoto fucking up. :/ Doubtful on a 256 sale like this though.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Ebay has the Crucial m4 128GB drive for $84 with free shipping.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/150866835241?afepn=5335869999&campid=5335869999&PID=1225267#ht_2865wt_1396
http://www.ebay.com/itm/150866835241?afepn=5335869999&campid=5335869999&PID=1225267#ht_2865wt_1396
I thought this GTX 280 SC would be too old to run BF3 decently, but it's been a pleasant experience. Running on high settings @ 1080p with only 8x AA and no AO provides a nice smooth framerate and it still looks pretty good as well. Made me realize that you don't have to have the latest hardware to enjoy the latest games.
Exactly. Which is why enthusiast high end cards are a waste of money. Almost always.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Ah.... I saw your post originally but I guess it skipped further down since the only link I saw for crucial was from amazon when it wasn't before that. I thought someone edited it out because it was dead. My bad.
I thought this GTX 280 SC would be too old to run BF3 decently, but it's been a pleasant experience. Running on high settings @ 1080p with only 8x AA and no AO provides a nice smooth framerate and it still looks pretty good as well. Made me realize that you don't have to have the latest hardware to enjoy the latest games.
Hmm....
Anyway, for some reason I doubt this as the 280 ~ 460 and you definitely cant run high with a good framerate on a 460.
Wolf Akela
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Need insight. Bro's picking a laptop. He found very similarly specced laptops, only differing in GPUs.
1) 640M DDR3
2) 640M LE DDR5 (+$60)
The difference is that #2 has a slower core clock, but better memory clock. I cannot find any benchmark comparing the two. Is it worth the extra $60?
1) 640M DDR3
2) 640M LE DDR5 (+$60)
The difference is that #2 has a slower core clock, but better memory clock. I cannot find any benchmark comparing the two. Is it worth the extra $60?
TyrantGuardian
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http://www.inet.se/produkt/6308505/noctua-nf-p12-1300
Is this fan okay for case cooling, or is it exclusively meant for cpu heatsinks?
v----Perfect, thanks!
Is this fan okay for case cooling, or is it exclusively meant for cpu heatsinks?
v----Perfect, thanks!
It's a case fan, I've one in my PC iirc.
So I got my new SSD and Windows install up and running, and my old drive has been reformatted and setup as the slave drive. Everything was working great for a day or so, then last night, suddenly the computer did a restart when I wasn't in the room, and during the boot goes to a black screen and says "Active partition not found, press any key". When I do as it says and press a key it does boot just fine, but I'd like to fix whatever the issue is.
Google told me to simply activate the drive in diskpart, but that didn't resolve it.
Google told me to simply activate the drive in diskpart, but that didn't resolve it.
That's designed for heatsinks. The NF-S12 is the one designed specifically for case fans.
Has this happened multiple times?
Starfish_Oxide
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Hey guys, I'm getting a CPU fan not detected error on start-up but I can see the CPU fan spinning and the CPU itself is idling at around 29 degrees so I guess its working?
I'm using a Intel Core i5 3570K @ 3.40GHz CPU on a P8Z77-V DELUXE mobo with a Thermaltake Macho CPU cooler.
Any idea of what I can do to fix it?
I'm using a Intel Core i5 3570K @ 3.40GHz CPU on a P8Z77-V DELUXE mobo with a Thermaltake Macho CPU cooler.
Any idea of what I can do to fix it?
Starfish_Oxide
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BIOS aint picking it up at all.
Sure you plugged it into the pins labelled CPU Fan
Starfish_Oxide
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Of course, it was working perfectly until yesterday, I had to lower the min RPM a few times so it was being picked up previously.
Just disable it then.
In other news:
Report: AMD Radeon HD 7990 6GB Ready To Launch
Drives me nuts they call these '6GB', like the 690 as '4GB'. Seems so very dishonest.
In other news:
Report: AMD Radeon HD 7990 6GB Ready To Launch
Drives me nuts they call these '6GB', like the 690 as '4GB'. Seems so very dishonest.
It happens anytime I reboot now.
Why, what is it really, then?
Starfish_Oxide
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Done, thanks for the help.
Half. Games and applications doesn't see the combined amount.
It puzzles me a bit why they don't configure the GPUs to share RAM on dual-GPU cards. I assume there's some technical reason for it, but it seems a waste of money to include 6GB worth of GDDR5 chips when they're just storing the same 3GB of data twice.
Both GPUs need to have their own memory to do their own calculations before they put the image together and display it. The data that each card is using for its calculations is different and thus they each require their own memory. They are quite literally sticking two independant cards in one board so sharing isnt so easy...
Its unfortunate marketers seem to find every way to lie to customers. Storage measurements are downright wrong.
My Arc Midi arrived today! Woo, etc.!
So I've three weeks to tinker around with it before finishing things off with storage and OS. I may or may not pester the thread with inane trivialities during this period. Apologies in advance if so.
First up, a question about dust filters and exhausts!
I'm plopping a H100 in the case, topside, with 2x NF-F12. This'll be the case exhaust. (Other fans will all be intake assuming no-one tells me this is a dumb-dumb idea; 2x 140mm Fractal fans in the front, the other 140 Fractal in the top rear and one of the 120mm Corsair (H100) fans in the bottom.)
Question then: the Arc has the inbuilt dust filter lining in the top tray. Should I be cutting a 120mmx240mm hole in this dust filter to accommodate (ie. not interfere with) the NF-F12's exhaust airflow and allow rogue dust particles easier passage in being blown out?
(Also, there was talk above of NF-P12 being heatsink fans and NF-S12s being case fans. I didn't know this was a thing! Are the NF-F12s suitable for radiator/heatsink usage?)
So I've three weeks to tinker around with it before finishing things off with storage and OS. I may or may not pester the thread with inane trivialities during this period. Apologies in advance if so.
First up, a question about dust filters and exhausts!
I'm plopping a H100 in the case, topside, with 2x NF-F12. This'll be the case exhaust. (Other fans will all be intake assuming no-one tells me this is a dumb-dumb idea; 2x 140mm Fractal fans in the front, the other 140 Fractal in the top rear and one of the 120mm Corsair (H100) fans in the bottom.)
Question then: the Arc has the inbuilt dust filter lining in the top tray. Should I be cutting a 120mmx240mm hole in this dust filter to accommodate (ie. not interfere with) the NF-F12's exhaust airflow and allow rogue dust particles easier passage in being blown out?
(Also, there was talk above of NF-P12 being heatsink fans and NF-S12s being case fans. I didn't know this was a thing! Are the NF-F12s suitable for radiator/heatsink usage?)
Don't bother with the Corsair fan. Two Fractal 140s in the front with the two NF-F12's in the top would be plenty. If you have a non-reference videocard that exhausts air into the case, then toss the other Fractal 140 on the side panel as an intake. Otherwise, leave it out.
Yes, removing the top filter is a great idea, and you might as well remove the plastic grille that holds it in place while you are at it.
NF-F12's are indeed their radiator fans.
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Also, be sure to remove as many drive cages as possible. If you only have an SSD in the system, then go ahead and remove both. You can then mount the SSD in the optical bay, or on the back of the motherboard tray even with some double sided tape.
Yes, removing the top filter is a great idea, and you might as well remove the plastic grille that holds it in place while you are at it.
NF-F12's are indeed their radiator fans.
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Also, be sure to remove as many drive cages as possible. If you only have an SSD in the system, then go ahead and remove both. You can then mount the SSD in the optical bay, or on the back of the motherboard tray even with some double sided tape.
Cheers for the quick response. Videocard is a 7970 DCUII so the side panel grill don't need no fan. In fact, I kinda wish the open grill wasn't there to be honest! My main reason for having the extra Corsair fan as intake was in a bid to ensure positive pressure because I was concerned about 'neutral air' being sucked in through that grill.
Is having top-rear as intake a problem? If the GPU is exhausting out the back I assume that its hot air will rise and make up a large part of the air that'll then be sucked in. Is this something to be concerned with or am I over-thinking/worrying? (Incidentally, the motherboard I have has a low RPM 40mm 'assistant fan' functioning as intake situated on the I/O board, so that's also situated directly above the GPU exhaust.)
EDIT: tidied up and fleshed out a few sentences
Is having top-rear as intake a problem? If the GPU is exhausting out the back I assume that its hot air will rise and make up a large part of the air that'll then be sucked in. Is this something to be concerned with or am I over-thinking/worrying? (Incidentally, the motherboard I have has a low RPM 40mm 'assistant fan' functioning as intake situated on the I/O board, so that's also situated directly above the GPU exhaust.)
EDIT: tidied up and fleshed out a few sentences
I assume my response was overlooked. It is happening now every time I reboot the PC. Simply pressing a key does bypass it each time, but the issue remains.
The DCII doesn't exhaust out of the back, it exhaust into your case, though some will indeed exhaust out of the back. The PSU heat will also exhaust out of the back.
Because of these, your best bet is to actually put the third Fractal fan on the side panel. This will push air out of the rear and top, as well as give your GPU fresh air to work with.
Sorry!
Sounds like bootmgr was corrupted or something fishy is going on there. Might consider trying to repair it, or alternatively, make sure that the correct drive is listed as the #1 boot option.
Yeah, that's why I have them mounted as such. It essentially removes PSU air flow from case air flow.
Thanks, looks like I will be setting up the case again this weekend.
So I got my new SSD drive. Kingston 120GB. I successfully installed Windows 7 Ultimate. Restarted and hooked up my old IDE drive w/ a Sata converter. It used to work before the fresh install, but the IDE drive is not being recognized in BIOS or within Windows 7 now.
I tried to search google for answers, but there's too many varying topics on this. Maybe some kind of driver issue? I can hook up a DVD drive in the same Sata port, and it will read the DVD drive though, so I'm not sure. Any suggestions?
I tried to search google for answers, but there's too many varying topics on this. Maybe some kind of driver issue? I can hook up a DVD drive in the same Sata port, and it will read the DVD drive though, so I'm not sure. Any suggestions?
Thanks, that's good to know. I was under the impression the DCUII would spew the lion's share of its heat out back.
I have no idea if I'll come up with a fan set-up that I'm content with, ha.
Really, we're talking about a few degrees here and there, as well as possibly reduced dust.
As long as you do your cable management right, I wouldn't fret too much. If tinkering with it and testing temps in different configurations is something that sounds appealing, then run some stress tests at similar ambient temperatures and get an idea for what works best.
As long as you do your cable management right, I wouldn't fret too much. If tinkering with it and testing temps in different configurations is something that sounds appealing, then run some stress tests at similar ambient temperatures and get an idea for what works best.
Ah, makes sense. I'll try it when I get home from work. Thanks.
RibbedHero
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Cheers.
No matter how it turns out to be it should be the new mid range card to beat. Dunno what AMD can do besides play price wars against 6xx.
TyrantGuardian
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What sort of issues would there be with using it as a case fan? It's the only one in stock.
I'll wait for a few more reviews yet, that one doesn't seem all that reliable tbh.
If I was AMD I'd refresh the cards to all be GHz editions and maybe another small price cut.
Some can emit all sorts of strange noises and weird quirks when not paired with a radiator or heatsink. I know that is the case for sure with the NF-F12s, I'm not certain about the P12's.
So I want a new case. After weeks of reading and watching video reviews I have come to the conclusion that the Switch 810 might be the one. Tons of air cooling and from what I've seen there are a lot of possibilities when putting it under water. I feel like this would suit my system better than the 500r..
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