Infinite Justice
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Yep.
The drop is supposedly coming at the end of the week.
Wait, what happened here?
The last thing i remember was you being pissed that your power supply and motherboard didn't go well together in terms of power connectors
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Yep.
The drop is supposedly coming at the end of the week.
Wait, what happened here?
The last thing i remember was you being pissed that your power supply and motherboard didn't go well together in terms of power connectors
Enjoy running every game on the market on maximum graphical settings! =)
Glass Rebel
Member
Hehe, thanks. It was time for a massive upgrade so I thought I'd go all-in.
Sourtreats
Member
My hand stance is in-between those. I'm also British and saw the G500 for £36 on Amazon and the keyboard for another £43. I can't see myself spending more than that one a keyboard but will take a look at the Roccat items.
storybook77
Member
CPU: AMD Phenom X4 955
GPU: XFX GeForce 460
Mem: G. Skillz 8 GB
I game at 1080p so would I be doing well by just upgrading the GPU to a 660/670 or should I be looking at upgrading my CPU first?
GPU: XFX GeForce 460
Mem: G. Skillz 8 GB
I game at 1080p so would I be doing well by just upgrading the GPU to a 660/670 or should I be looking at upgrading my CPU first?
I'd OC your CPU as you should be able to get a good boost out of it, and whilst it'll bottleneck a bit, it'll still be fine for most stuff and will last at until Intel's new line comes out.
A quick Google around makes it seem like 4GHz is an attainable target for the 955.
storybook77
Member
I was leaning that way, just needed some verification. It'll be a lot easier to sell a new video card to the wife than a new CPU ("didn't you just get a new one?"). lol
Out of the two if it were me I'd go for the GPU, the Phenom will keep going for a while longer yet if you get a good OC out of it.
Others of course may disagree but it's what I'd do anyway, and then save towards a new CPU/mobo when Haswell comes out.
storybook77
Member
My plan is to just upgrade the GPU, let the CPU run its course and then when I'm ready to get a new system (probably early 2014), put my existing system into my daughter's "playroom" and my son can use it as well for school stuff, freeing up time for me on my system.
I was just in a very similar situation, x4 965 and 5770. I upgraded the 5770 to a 670 and OC the 965 to 4. No games are really available at the moment were the bottleneck will cause you to have less than 60 fps other than BF3 (average is higher but it will dip below 60).
I'm wanting to join the ranks of PC gaming and get away from this Dell junker laptop, but good god am I scared to buy into the world of Desktop PC gaming. I'm afraid I'll buy the wrong CPU, the wrong GPU and then be outdated in 6 months cause I didnt buy the right stuff. (which is also why i have a hard time playing Skyrim or LA NOIRE, because I always feel like I picked the wrong thing.) lol
read the OP.
Follow the guide in the OP and you're golden.
RibbedHero
Member
As others have pointed out, the secret is in the thread title.
Can someone say if this is a good setup ?
It seemed the power supply was missing a cable. I emailed Cooler master in the Netherlands and I had to make a copy of my receipt, mailed it and the next day received the 4+4pin.
the motherboard and psu go together. For some reason the cable was missing. The guy at cooler master said that the cable should be included. But i am used to these things. every time i buy something form the internet it becomes a shit experience.
I double checked everything. even used the psu on another pc and it worked. I think it's a motherboard failure or either the on/of button doesn't work. I will know in a few day's. I either get an email with we will replace some parts or I will have to pay for another motherboard and pay assembly/research cost. So in the end payed the extra 100 euro's. I should have just bought everything in the store.
that's an expensive case. is it mid or high tower?
WD green got lots of bad reviews. I changed to WD Black.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
I'm about to install my new SSD on my existing PC. Is it true that I have to disconnect the HDD in order to install Windows on the SSD? Is it just a precaution to avoid accidentally wiping out your HDD, or will it prevent you from installing Windows entirely?
RibbedHero
Member
Get a decent HDD, otherwise it's all good, though you should ask yourself: do you really need a disk drive? You can always get one later.
the doombass
Member
How much do you guys think this system is worth? It's a dell xps 630i with the following system specs. Going to attempt to sell it on craigslist.
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9450 @ 2.66GHz
4GB DDR2 RAM
MOBO Dell Inc 0PP150
600GB HD
2 NVidia GTX 9800s
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9450 @ 2.66GHz
4GB DDR2 RAM
MOBO Dell Inc 0PP150
600GB HD
2 NVidia GTX 9800s
Not a fan of the case for that price. CM690II, Arc MIDI, Define R4 are all better choices.
As others pointed out, WD Greens have a bad rep.
How about a Samsung Spinpoint F4 HDD is that a good choice ?
And i like a case with a window what other options are there, the corsair 500R ?
Infinite Justice
Member
Its the recommended drive in the build lists from the OP so yea get that instead.
R4 has a windowed model.
Otherwise, a dremel, u channel rubber, a piece of acrylic, and some double sided tape will suit you fine.
So, just about to start peiceing together my new build. I have an Antec Eleven Hundred case (one exhaust fan top mounted and one rear exhaust fan mounted). I plan on OC'ing a i5 3570k and running it with the gigabyte gtx670.
Is it worthwhile investing in some additional fans? There is a mount for a 120mm fan directly behind the CPU, is this overkill or will it help with OC'ing?
Thanks!
Is it worthwhile investing in some additional fans? There is a mount for a 120mm fan directly behind the CPU, is this overkill or will it help with OC'ing?
Thanks!
legacyzero
Banned
GAF, I have $1000 (hypothetical). Build me a new gaming rig NAO.
Need:
-Case
-CPU/mobo
-GPU
-SSD
Already have:
-8 BG memory
-1 TB HDD
-750 PSU
-DVD RW
What does GAF recommend? Some links. I'm going to be upgrading withing the next few months
GO.
Need:
-Case
-CPU/mobo
-GPU
-SSD
Already have:
-8 BG memory
-1 TB HDD
-750 PSU
-DVD RW
What does GAF recommend? Some links. I'm going to be upgrading withing the next few months
GO.
Thinking I will go with some AP-15's, think that will suffice?
legacyzero
Banned
Oh I know that, I'm just asking personally. I have trouble with the combinations of those items, what Mobos with with what CPUs/Cases.
Still kinda nooby with this.
so go pick one from the op; the works been done already.
samsung drives are all rebranded seagate drives at this point. so the quality isnt there anymore. OP is a bit dated when it comes to hard drives.
Gaffers, I was going to sell my crossfire XFX 6870s on eBay but thought it might benefit someone else here instead. I'm getting a GTX 670.
One of them was used for about 2 years, the other just above a year. I still have the boxes and the crossfire bridge.
I wanted to let them go for 200$, I figured they would go pretty fast on eBay, so I'm asking here first to see if anyone's interested.
Giving back to the community and all that
P.S: I live in Montreal, Canada. Something to take into consideration. I can ship to the States and the U.S, obviously you'd pay for shipping.
One of them was used for about 2 years, the other just above a year. I still have the boxes and the crossfire bridge.
I wanted to let them go for 200$, I figured they would go pretty fast on eBay, so I'm asking here first to see if anyone's interested.
Giving back to the community and all that
P.S: I live in Montreal, Canada. Something to take into consideration. I can ship to the States and the U.S, obviously you'd pay for shipping.
legacyzero
Banned
So here's what I came up with. Even came up with about $100 to spare! Would there be a better GPU that I could go with over the 660 ti for that $100 extra??
CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor
COOLER: Cooler Master Hyper N520 43.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
MOBO: ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard
SSD: OCZ Vertex 4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk
GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card
CASE: Inwin Dragon Rider ATX Full Tower Case
Ok, What say you GAF?
CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor
COOLER: Cooler Master Hyper N520 43.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
MOBO: ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard
SSD: OCZ Vertex 4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk
GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card
CASE: Inwin Dragon Rider ATX Full Tower Case
Ok, What say you GAF?
Terribly upset: I just realized the SSD I bought is only SATA II.
Is this even worth installing or should I put it up on ebay?
Edit: on second thought, I've got an OCZ Agility3 that's 60GB in my laptop.
I'll probably switch with this 120GB Corsair Force that I ordered too hastily.
Fuck me
Is this even worth installing or should I put it up on ebay?
Edit: on second thought, I've got an OCZ Agility3 that's 60GB in my laptop.
I'll probably switch with this 120GB Corsair Force that I ordered too hastily.
Fuck me
Get a "real" hard drive too.
legacyzero
Banned
Oh, I already have a TB, This is just a major upgrade.
Infinite Justice
Member
I knew about the rebranding stuff but i thought it didn't really matter quality wise (since Seagate drives are an option also along with WD Blacks)
Just checked newegg and it looks like the new prices have kicked in for the 7850s, except the MSI Twin Frozr apparently (i guess its due to the MSI being on one of those newegg promotions earilier today)
Sapphire killing it with their 7850s at $189 for normal and $199 for the OC version.
Terribly upset: I just realized the SSD I bought is only SATA II.
Is this even worth installing or should I put it up on ebay?
Edit: on second thought, I've got an OCZ Agility3 that's 60GB in my laptop.
I'll probably switch with this 120GB Corsair Force that I ordered too hastily.
Fuck me
If anyone wants this drive, I'll sell it to you for $70 shipped.
http://tech.woot.com/offers/force-120gb-ssd-1
Sorry, that matrix of info was a little scary at first glance, but after some reading and re-reading I have a good idea on what to build.
I absolutely love this thread.
I'm in the midst of building my new PC largely based off of the Excellent build.
CPU - i5 3570k
MB - Asus P8Z77-V LK
HD - Samsung F3
Heatsink - Cooler Master 212
Power Supply, RAM, SSD, and GPU are still to be decided (I'm largely buying things as they go on sell)
I'll be coming from a Q6600 with 4 gigs of ram and a 4870 so I'm hoping it will be a pretty large improvement.
I have two questions though:
1. Although it's overkill I've decided I want 16 gigs of ram. Ignoring the ability to expand later is there any reason to get 2x8 sticks over 4x4?
2. The two games I'm looking to be playing for the next few months are Guild Wars 2 and Borderlands 2. I was all set on the Gigabyte 660ti until AMD announced the price drop. I'm finding it hard to argue with the $199 Sapphire 7850. I'm hoping someone could push me in one direction or the other. One thing I wasn't sure of is what I might be missing out going to an AMD card since Borderlands 2 utilizes PhysX.
I'm in the midst of building my new PC largely based off of the Excellent build.
CPU - i5 3570k
MB - Asus P8Z77-V LK
HD - Samsung F3
Heatsink - Cooler Master 212
Power Supply, RAM, SSD, and GPU are still to be decided (I'm largely buying things as they go on sell)
I'll be coming from a Q6600 with 4 gigs of ram and a 4870 so I'm hoping it will be a pretty large improvement.
I have two questions though:
1. Although it's overkill I've decided I want 16 gigs of ram. Ignoring the ability to expand later is there any reason to get 2x8 sticks over 4x4?
2. The two games I'm looking to be playing for the next few months are Guild Wars 2 and Borderlands 2. I was all set on the Gigabyte 660ti until AMD announced the price drop. I'm finding it hard to argue with the $199 Sapphire 7850. I'm hoping someone could push me in one direction or the other. One thing I wasn't sure of is what I might be missing out going to an AMD card since Borderlands 2 utilizes PhysX.
MagicWithEarvin
Member
How big of an upgrade is this 6870 card over my current 5770? I could maybe go a step up from a 6870 depending on the price-point right now.
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 @ 3.2GHz
RAM: G.Skill 2x4GB DDR3
I think I might replace my crummy Maxtor 500GB Sata HDD to a 1TB - any HDD recommendations?
Thanks y'all.
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 @ 3.2GHz
RAM: G.Skill 2x4GB DDR3
I think I might replace my crummy Maxtor 500GB Sata HDD to a 1TB - any HDD recommendations?
Thanks y'all.
Did they replace the existing model or start a new line?
212 heatsink. Z77 mobo. Personally id get a 830 ssd and gigabyte.asus.msi 670.
Depends on the ssd. If its sata ii it probably doesnt go much over that.Terribly upset: I just realized the SSD I bought is only SATA II.
Is this even worth installing or should I put it up on ebay?
Edit: on second thought, I've got an OCZ Agility3 that's 60GB in my laptop.
I'll probably switch with this 120GB Corsair Force that I ordered too hastily.
Fuck me
Two sticks is easier on the mobo.?/
Personally i dont care for physx at all. 660ti is amazing value for 1080. As is the 7850
Check the anandtech bench link in the op or on their website for a rough comparison.
Save up, it's not significant enough to really warrant it. I'd wait until you can afford either something more significant (670, 7950, 7870) or until you can go CPU + GPU in a go.
Get the CM212+ instead of the Hymper N520
I like 7950 or 7870 over the 660Ti, they'll perform better than it down the line due to bandwidth.
For case, swap it for a Fractal Define R4, Arc Midi, or Bitfenix Shinobi XL if you want something bigger. If you like the aggressive look, the HAF XM is a good choice too.
Hey posted this in the Screenshots thread but was directed here. Hoping to get some help.
I'm trying to overclock my GPU. It's a GTX 570. Whenever I up the voltage, the GPU clock starts to fluctuate during the benchmark. Okay whatever. Then I keep the stock voltage and start upping the memory clock a bit until it seems reliable. Then I bump up the GPU clock a bit and everything seems okay. Then when I bump any of the three up, the GPU clock starts fluctuating again during the benchmark, starting at around 825, then cutting in half, then back up, back down, and at some points down to 1/4th of the set GPU clock.
Does that mean I'm pushing it too hard, or is something just messing up with it? I'm attaching a picture of Precision X so you can see what I mean. Look in the lower left and you can see the graph keeps flopping up down up down up.
I'm trying to overclock my GPU. It's a GTX 570. Whenever I up the voltage, the GPU clock starts to fluctuate during the benchmark. Okay whatever. Then I keep the stock voltage and start upping the memory clock a bit until it seems reliable. Then I bump up the GPU clock a bit and everything seems okay. Then when I bump any of the three up, the GPU clock starts fluctuating again during the benchmark, starting at around 825, then cutting in half, then back up, back down, and at some points down to 1/4th of the set GPU clock.
Does that mean I'm pushing it too hard, or is something just messing up with it? I'm attaching a picture of Precision X so you can see what I mean. Look in the lower left and you can see the graph keeps flopping up down up down up.
PolarBearsClub
Member
Hey GAF. So I bought a pre-made PC a while ago. I know next to nothing about building PCs and just wanted some kind of base to start with, so I just got this on a good deal, and figured I could update the graphics card or whatever later down the line.
So far, I have really liked this PC. But now I am kind of toying with idea of upgrading the graphics card. Like I said, I am very, very new to all of this. But what I do know is that the power supply on my pc is 500w, so my options are limited as far as the high-end graphics cards go. However, so far I am thinking of getting a Radeon HD 6850. Here's the exact one I have in mind. My current card is an AMD Radeon 6750.
So my question is: do you think the difference in performance between the two is worth the price? Or should I just wait a little while and invest in buying an even better graphics card as well as a new power supply?
Also, general advice on how I should upgrade around my current setup is welcome too.
Thanks in advance!
So far, I have really liked this PC. But now I am kind of toying with idea of upgrading the graphics card. Like I said, I am very, very new to all of this. But what I do know is that the power supply on my pc is 500w, so my options are limited as far as the high-end graphics cards go. However, so far I am thinking of getting a Radeon HD 6850. Here's the exact one I have in mind. My current card is an AMD Radeon 6750.
So my question is: do you think the difference in performance between the two is worth the price? Or should I just wait a little while and invest in buying an even better graphics card as well as a new power supply?
Also, general advice on how I should upgrade around my current setup is welcome too.
Thanks in advance!
MagicWithEarvin
Member
Okay then, how about this Sapphire 7850 for $190?
1024 Stream Processors
2GB 256-bit GDDR5
PCI Express 3.0 x16
IIRC, it just needs to be the same model number card. It'll just downclock to the lowest clocked card of the two. I could be wrong though.
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