I've got a Gigabyte GTX 680 OC coming my way in about a week, should I bother with custom cooling for it? I don't plan on overclocking it.
Do you mean the one with three fans? That is custom cooling, and the best factory one available.
Nah it's just a little louder than I would like when idle and under load. I'm sure it's the reference 680 making all that noise. I was just curious if my current setup could handle a non reference card or if it'd be wiser to switch to an R4.
Fans will do that for you more than a new case. Fans are what make a case really. The best thing a case can offer is good mounting options for said fans. But yeah, your card is what is making that loud noise. This is the reason we've been trying to steer people away from EVGA Kepler cards.
This thread is insanely comprehensive. As I read through it let me see if anyone wants to help me out.
Right now I have a Radeon HD 6950, an Intel Core i5 3450, and a Corsair GS500 power supply. I'd like recommendations for a Motherboard and a case. Right now...
Motherboard: I'm eyeing the ASRock Z77 Extreme4
Case: Don't know a lot yet, Sub-$100 preferably
No plans to overclock but who knows.
Also, Windows 7 or Windows 8?
Buy
this right now. That's pretty much top of the line when it comes to <$150 cases, and it's on mega sale right now.
Grab one of the motherboards from the OP. They're vetted based on reliability and price over anything. I'd actually point you towards an H77 board as you can't overclock the 3450. With Ivy/Sandy, you need a 'K' processor in order to overclock. It does mean that you are missing out on 60fps in a number of games (need that magic 4.0GHz) as well as the boost of about 30% increased performance, but there's no real point in spending extra money on a Z77 board when you won't be using what it offers.
I say Windows 7. Not because 8 is bad, but because 7 is just so f'n good. You're not missing out on anything. If you do want it later down the road, they're going to be offering direct download super inexpensive upgrade versions.
What I'm not sure about:
GPU - I'm currently on an HD6850 (1GB) and I guess just moving that over is an option for the near future. With so many disadvantages I've had with AMD recently I'd ideally switch over to Nvidia but I'm not sure of 1) What would be a good but affordable improvement and 2) what will measure up to next gen console ports.
RAM - 8GB or 16? I guess I won't know until RAM requirements for next gen console ports start coming in. How expensive is it to upgrade RAM after the fact?
Blu-Ray Drive - How much do they cost? I'm not talking about burners, just drives. This would be purely for watching movies.
Hard Drive - I already have a 1TB HDD that I'll probably move over to the new system but I think I'll need a little more than that. I don't think I need an SSD so another TB or two would be good I guess. In addition to hundreds of GB of games I'd be hosting over 50GB of music and probably as much in video.
Windows 7 or 8? - I'm still using Vista 32bit right now so either would be a big upgrade I guess. I saw a thread a while ago about W8's initial effects on frame rates though. Stick with W7 until 8 hits at least SP1? The features of W8 don't seem all that useful for a desktop for me, but this'll be an HTPC so maybe they'll make more sense in that environment.
Budget:
I don't want to go over $1000 honestly but we'll see what happens. That's primarily why I'm not sure about the GPU. Keep in mind that I probably won't be buying a monitor since it'll be hooked up to a TV.
First, check out the
Small Form Factor Guide from the OP. Both the GAZ77-N and the P8Z77-I have optical out.
GPU - you're not going to get a good upgrade on this while staying under $1000 for the total build. A $1000 build nets you a 7850 which isn't a huge jump. You'd want to look at the 7950, 7970, or 670. I'd suggest you wait for the next gen unless you're willing to shell out extra for that performance earlier than you would get otherwise.
RAM - 8GB. 4GB is already plenty for even moderately intensive users. I honestly can't remember the last time I used more than 4GB. All else fails, you can upgrade it later. Buy the Samsung 30nm RAM.
Blu-Ray Drives - Look on Newegg.
Storage - You do need an SSD. With HDD prices the way they are, as well as the fact that there aren't any good drives out there reasonably priced, SSD's make more sense than ever. WD Blacks (loud) are mostly reliable and speedy. WD RE4's are reliable but will have their way with your wallet. Everything else is a crapshoot.
Windows 7 or 8? - As I said above, Windows 7 is reaaaaaaaaaly good. I've used everything from an Apple IIc, to Windows 3, to ME, to OSX, to Linux Debian. Windows 7 is the most amazing operating system for general usage and workstations that has ever existed. Once Windows 8 is given the clear, or you find some thing that just draws you to it, you'll be able to get a really inexpensive upgrade option.
120 is pointless as I don't see myself buying 120Hz for at least a couple of years.
Booooo! (I kid). I've said it many times, but for me: modems, discrete 3D cards, broadband internet, and 120hz all belong in the same sentence when talking about watershed moments in my gaming life.
Interesting. Definitely tempted to buy, but I want to know if anyone has any recommendations for this build before I do:
Specs:
CPU: Intel i5 3570K
Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing
Video Card: MSI Twin Frozr 680 GTX
MoBo: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155
PSU: Cooler Master GX 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory**
Storage: Crucial M4 256 GB SSD** and
Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Case: Arc Midi
Optical: Lite-On IHBS112-04 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer**
OS: Windows 7 Home**
Mouse & Keyboard: Low End (Don't have the models yet; using cheap placeholders on the list below)
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/llaF
** = Already purchased. (There were sales! Things were cheap! I was weak.)
Mainly just the Enthusiast build with some tweaks. I'm skeptical of the HDD--NewEgg's reviews of even the better HDDs aren't exactly glowing these days.
On the GPU, I'm okay with dropping down to 670 if the output can get me what I outlined in the Games I Need to Play section, but I'm favoring longevity over price at the moment. If the 680 can squeeze out more play over time for $50 more, I'm okay with that. But I'm new at this, so I'm open to arguments for or against.
Also, should I purchase additional 140mm fans for the case? Or a wire rack for the computer to stand on for ventilation? Really, any cooling tips you could provide would be appreciated, no matter how obvious.
Hope I outlined everything I needed to. Any suggestions?
Swap the PSU for one of the ones in the OP. If this is still going on, buy it right now.
If you are in the market for a new good PSU, buy the Seasonic X750 on Newegg right now!
$100 w/ Promo Code EMCYTZT2397. That's like 40% off.
The 680 is unquestionably the better card, but if you're trying to save a bit here and there, that's the place to do it. It's not going to be the difference between being able to play one of your games at a certain frame rate. It's for the person that just has to have the best card out there.
The Spinpoint F3 on Newegg is a rebadged Seagate. If you see the words "By Seagate" on it, its no longer a Samsung drive.
Additional fans aren't really necessary. 140mm fans are pretty much garbage. What the companies do is design specific technology around 120mm and then just try to scale it up. You end up with noisier, less efficient fans. If you want, you can take a look at grabbing some extras. Spectre Pros are good at the $10 mark, Corsair AP/AF (AP for rads/heatsinks, AF for case fans) are good at $15, and Noiseblockers are good in the $20+ range.
Only other tip is to look at getting a
DataVac. It's a tiny air compressor that makes cleaning your case a piece of cake. If it's easy, you'll be more likely to do it.