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"I need a New PC!" 2012 Thread. Ivy, SSDs, and reading the OP. [Part 2]

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mkenyon

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JJBro One said:
I'm looking for a smaller case. Right now I have haf 932 advanced but it's a little too big since I travel with my computer. I'm looking for a smaller case perhaps a mid tower, but I'm worried my components won't fit mainly my 2 670's. One mid tower that I found is haf xm http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10440897&PID=5244940&SID= How is this case and is it what I'm looking for? Here's my build.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($159.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($209.48 @ Mwave)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($36.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($88.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($359.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($359.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS70 OEM DVD/CD Writer
Optical Drive: LG WH12LS38 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer
Monitor: Asus VH238H 23.0" Monitor ($163.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($91.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Mouse: Logitech G500 Wired Laser Mouse ($49.92 @ Amazon)
Total: $1776.28
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-11-22 21:46 EST-0500)
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Get the Arc Midi for $60 from NCIX US. It was the best mid tower below $150 at $100. Now it is $40 less.
Azzurri said:
How powerful is a GTX 590 compared to the 680's and 7970's?
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More, if SLI profiles are up to snuff. If they aren't, then it is basically a 570.

It also uses a ton more power and runs crazy hot.
sixghost said:
MSI 7970 $300
Is there something wrong with this 7970? That seems cheap as hell.
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Of is reference, which isn't optimal, but that deal is stupid good.
kakashi08 said:
Alright people, I've asked too many questions in this thread about a PC.
But I got one LAST question. I've decided which gpu,cpu,psu,case,ram,ssd,cpu cooler.

The last question is. Is this motherboard good for the items i've decied below?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131821

The other items I've decided on after asking questions about them:
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116501
GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150586
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151087
SSD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147163
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314
CPU COOLER: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118100
MONITOR: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236294
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It is overkill, but I'm a fan of overkill. If you haven't bought, its on super sale at NCIX US with a 3750K.
PGamer said:
For any Canadians here NCIX has a 3 TB hard drive for $89.99 right now along with a bunch of other deals. This probably won't last long at all.

http://www.ncix.ca/promo/promosale.php?webid=BlackFridayOnline2012
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Same deal for US on the US site.
 
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NervousXtian

Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
I grabbed that BitFenix Survivor case for $49.99 and the Corsair 500w CX500 to go with the mobo and ram I got.

Just need CPU, GPU and HD now.
 
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mkenyon

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Just so folks know, try to avoid anything CX other than the 430 in absolute budget builds. If you are out of that category, the BP550 becomes the PSU of choice. The CX series is not great.
 
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RedSwirl

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Probably not gonna be able to snag anything in time for Black Friday. What's the time limit until the parts I currently have picked out go way back up in price? I'm still trying to nail a sub-$1000 build here.
 
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Lkr

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The Frankman said:
Hmm, I'm looking at the BIOSTAR TZ77B mentioned in Hazaro's sheet and the MSI Z77A-G41 you listed. Kinda leaning towards the Biostar but I'm trying to keep my options open.

Just trying to get a decent motherboard, I forgot I just shopped off a similar motherboard the last time I built my computer. In reality I didn't really "look" for one.
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Keep me posted on which you decide to get
 
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HungOverOnATues

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I was asked to find or build a gaming PC for my nephew for Christmas with a budget of around $1k CDN. Slighty over budget and didn't quite find as good a deal as I was looking for, but I don't think it turned out too bad.

ASRock Z77 EXTREME4 Motherboard & Intel Core i5 3570K
Patriot Viper 3 8GB 2X4GB PC3-12800
HIS IceQ H787Q2G2M Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB
CORSAIR Builder Series CX430
Seagate Barracuda 2TB
Antec Three Hundred Two
Windows 8 64-bit
ASUS VE247H 23.6IN

All together about $1184 and around $120 in rebates.
 
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mkenyon

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HungOverOnATues said:
I was asked to find or build a gaming PC for my nephew for Christmas with a budget of around $1k CDN. Slighty over budget and didn't quite find as good a deal as I was looking for, but I don't think it turned out too bad.

ASRock Z77 EXTREME4 Motherboard & Intel Core i5 3570K
Patriot Viper 3 8GB 2X4GB PC3-12800
HIS IceQ H787Q2G2M Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB
CORSAIR Builder Series CX430
Seagate Barracuda 2TB
Antec Three Hundred Two
Windows 8 64-bit
ASUS VE247H 23.6IN

All together about $1184 and around $120 in rebates.
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That's pushing it a bit on the CX430. I think its only like 330-350w on the 12V rail.
 
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Hazaro

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Swap out that CX430 is possible. VP450 is better and you should be able to get a decent PSU for not much more.
The Frankman said:
That's weird, I thought I wen to NCIX USA through Google and searched. My bad guys.

Is it that much better than the Rosewill Challenger? If it looks similar enough I just might go by asthetics.
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HarryDemeanor said:
That $59.99 deal for that Arc Midi is tempting.

Aaaaaand it's gone.

Nevermind it's back.

EDIT: Is this Seagate 1TB drive for $49.99 a good deal? Also is the BioStar TZ77B worth the price?
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Yup and Yup
 
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Bear

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NCIX has the GTX 670 for $330 after rebate, $40 more than the GTX 660 ti I was planning on getting. Is there any noticeable performance difference? I can't seem to find any consensus on that, some sources say the difference is negligible while others say the 670 should perform better because of its higher memory bandwidth.
 
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kharma45

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Bear said:
NCIX has the GTX 670 for $330 after rebate, $40 more than the GTX 660 ti I was planning on getting. Is there any noticeable performance difference? I can't seem to find any consensus on that, some sources say the difference is negligible while others say the 670 should perform better because of its higher memory bandwidth.
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I'd unquestionably go for the 670 out of the two because of the memory bandwidth which could be an issue in the future, plus it's not that much more money for a better card.
 
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Cannon Goose

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Is Aero weirdly laggy for anyone else running two monitors? Minimising windows and moving things around the desktop is kinda chuggy.

Edit: Wait, the aero animations are only laggy if a video is playing on the other monitor. But still, surely that shouldn't be happening anyway, right?

Edit again: Now it's all smooth while video is playing... Oh well, I'm happy.
 
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Chesskid1

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Hi guys,

i just picked up an SSD at newegg (kingston 128gb for $60). i've been reading about everything in preparation, putting drivers on a USB, etc.

my current HDD is in IDE ive gathered, it's 1TB and i have all my stuff on it + OS. i have to set my sata ports to ACHI for the new SSD. i noticed i can set the first 4 sata ports to AHCI, and keep the other 3 in IDE. I can have my SSD on ahci and my old hdd/OS hooked up in the "IDE" ports with no problem and would be able to dual boot into either OS, until i grab all my stuff off the old HDD then format the os partition, correct?

thanks, looking forward to the new SSD, don't really think ill benefit too much (and im in sata 2, also) but why not i guess. not looking forward to trying to transfer all my shit to it, heh.
 
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SuicidalSteve

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I need a graphics card but stumped between Geforce GTX670 and a 680 noticed there's about £100 price difference are they very similar? Which one would you recommend?
 
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Zyzyxxz

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Haven't been keeping up with PC hardware but can someone let me know what is better for my GPU dilemma:

I wish to play Skyrim with all those crazy graphic mods. I have a AMD X4 840 and a ATI 5870 1GB. Should I buy my friend's 5870 and crossfire or just get a better newer card? Suppose money is tight I'm not looking to spend $300 on a graphics card right now but I think I can get a low price on the 5870.

Chesskid1 said:
Hi guys,

i just picked up an SSD at newegg (kingston 128gb for $60). i've been reading about everything in preparation.

my current HDD is in IDE ive gathered, it's 1TB and i have all my stuff on it + OS. i have to set my sata ports to ACHI for the new SSD. i noticed i can set the first 4 sata ports to AHCI, and keep the other 3 in IDE. I can have my SSD on ahci and my old hdd/OS hooked up in the IDE ports with no problem and would be able to dual boot into either OS, until i grab all my stuff off the old HDD then format the os partition, correct?

thanks, looking forward to the new SSD. not looking forward to getting all my shit installed on it, heh.
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Can't answer your question but just bought the same one. I've been using a SSD for bootup for some time but it was too small (paid $60 for a 30gb 2 years ago and it was a good deal then). Word of advice only put the programs you want to use the most on your SSD and use your HDD for the rest of the crap.
 
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Visualante2

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Kinda breaking my heart how much cheaper components are in the US. I'm paying £1 == $1 more or less after these rebate cards.

If anyone can recommend places for deal tracking, I'd appreciate it. I know Hexus have a deals forum. edit. It's very dead on that forum now.
 
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Lkr

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Got the 3570ks. Now I just need the rest of the parts and I can build it after the semester ends. I'm excited and tired
 
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Bear

Member
kharma45 said:
I'd unquestionably go for the 670 out of the two because of the memory bandwidth which could be an issue in the future, plus it's not that much more money for a better card.
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Hm, actually, it seems that some 3 GB models of the 660 ti use the same PCB as the 670/680 and have the same memory bandwidth (192.26 GB/s), including this one I was looking at. Is the 2 GB 670 still significantly better than a 3 GB 660 ti? Just going by spec sheets they seem to be more or less identical, aside from the extra GB of memory.

EDIT: It looks like NCIX got the details wrong. Specs off EVGA's site show that their 3 GB cards all still have 144 GB/s bandwidth.
 
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HarryDemeanor

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With the Arc Midi sold out, what's the next best case in that NCIX sale? I'm sort of tied between the Fractal Design Core 3000 and BitFenix Shinobi.
 
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Hazaro

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Zyzyxxz said:
Haven't been keeping up with PC hardware but can someone let me know what is better for my GPU dilemma:

I wish to play Skyrim with all those crazy graphic mods. I have a AMD X4 840 and a ATI 5870 1GB. Should I buy my friend's 5870 and crossfire or just get a better newer card? Suppose money is tight I'm not looking to spend $300 on a graphics card right now but I think I can get a low price on the 5870.
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Overclock your CPU the most you can, then your 5870. If that isn't enough for your liking grab a new GPU, but you will be CPU limited in Skyrim (I think).
Visualante2 said:
Kinda breaking my heart how much cheaper components are in the US. I'm paying £1 == $1 more or less after these rebate cards.

If anyone can recommend places for deal tracking, I'd appreciate it. I know Hexus have a deals forum. edit. It's very dead on that forum now.
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overclockers.uk ?
Bear said:
Hm, actually, it seems that some 3 GB models of the 660 ti use the same PCB as the 670/680 and have the same memory bandwidth (192.26 GB/s), including this one I was looking at. Is the 2 GB 670 still significantly better than a 3 GB 660 ti? Just going by spec sheets they seem to be more or less identical, aside from the extra GB of memory.

EDIT: It looks like NCIX got the details wrong. Specs off EVGA's site show that their 3 GB cards all still have 144 GB/s bandwidth.
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670
 
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Bear

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About to pull the trigger on this. Any advice or last minute changes I should make?

Case: $40 - Antec Three Hundred Two
Motherboard: $100 - MSI Z77A-G45 ATX LGA1155 Z77 DDR3 3PCI-E16 4PCI-E1 SLI SATA3 DVI HDMI VGA DX11 USB3.0 Motherboard
CPU: $220 - Intel Core i5 3570K Unlocked Quad Core Processor LGA1155 3.4GHZ Ivy Bridge 6MB Retail
GPU: $330 - Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 OC 980MHZ 2GB 6.0GHZ GDDR5 2xDVI HDMI DP PCI-E VideoCard
RAM: $29 - Kingston KHX1600C9D3B1K2/8GX 8GB Kit 2X4GB 1600MHz DDR3 240PIN DIMM Unbuff Hmp HyperX CL9
HDD: $100 (2x$50) - Two Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB SATA 32MB Cache 3.5in Internal Hard Drive OEM

Total (with assembly): $900 (-$30 or so in rebates) before tax/shipping

EDIT: Ended up buying it, seems like a better deal than I'd usually be able to get
 
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JayDub

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Bear said:
About to pull the trigger on this. Any advice or last minute changes I should make?

Case: $40 - Antec Three Hundred Two
Motherboard: $100 - MSI Z77A-G45 ATX LGA1155 Z77 DDR3 3PCI-E16 4PCI-E1 SLI SATA3 DVI HDMI VGA DX11 USB3.0 Motherboard
CPU: $220 - Intel Core i5 3570K Unlocked Quad Core Processor LGA1155 3.4GHZ Ivy Bridge 6MB Retail
GPU: $330 - Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 OC 980MHZ 2GB 6.0GHZ GDDR5 2xDVI HDMI DP PCI-E VideoCard
RAM: $29 - Kingston KHX1600C9D3B1K2/8GX 8GB Kit 2X4GB 1600MHz DDR3 240PIN DIMM Unbuff Hmp HyperX CL9
HDD: $100 (2x$50) - Two Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB SATA 32MB Cache 3.5in Internal Hard Drive OEM

Total (with assembly): $900 (-$30 or so in rebates) before tax/shipping

EDIT: Ended up buying it, seems like a better deal than I'd usually be able to get
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How did this turn out for you? Im probably going to copy that exact build. Just noticed you bought this today, sorry. Keep us updated!!
 
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Spike Spiegel

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I know you guys ponying up for the $300 cards will probably scoff at this, but I decided to get on the MSI Radeon HD 7770 deal that Amazon had for $99.99, with a $40 rebate from MSI. The budget rig I built last year was still running a 5570, and that price point seemed too good to pass up (right?). I just hope Amazon delivers before the rebate expires in 20 days.

Good deal for a budget or a mistake?
 
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