Yes, it is. You're talking about the difference between rendering 2.073 million pixels and 3.672 million pixels. That's a significant difference, and can have a very significant impact on 99th percentile frame time.
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"I need a New PC!" 2013 Part 1. Haswell, Crysis 3, and secret fairy sauce. Read da OP
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Meh. That's just a handful of pixels.
If you're really that adverse to black borders, you should just get the 23-24inch monitor
Just clean out your Antec 900 and use your saved case money for a GPU upgrade after you install your cooler.
Return the 9900 (Expensive, heavy, and not that great a cooler) if you can for a rifle cooler like the 212 EVO or ZALMAN CNPS7X if you are worried about weight (or water even if you want).
Got you mixed up with someone else.
No need to have that tone here
So I've now narrowed it down to two builds, but here are a few questions I answered from the first post,
And..
Apparently the HAF X case allows a lot of dust to enter the case?
And I was told there's no point getting the 4GB GPU since I'll only be playing it on one monitor?
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Alongside any recommendations.
Thanks.
And..
Apparently the HAF X case allows a lot of dust to enter the case?
And I was told there's no point getting the 4GB GPU since I'll only be playing it on one monitor?
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Alongside any recommendations.
Thanks.
chickdigger802
Banned
A bit off topic but,
noticed this on my 360 controller usb.
Is this rust? How can I clean it off, or do I have to get a new one?
what are some household things that can fight against rust... err... chemically.
noticed this on my 360 controller usb.
Is this rust? How can I clean it off, or do I have to get a new one?
what are some household things that can fight against rust... err... chemically.
2nd build preferred. Nab a 212 EVO for the heatsink.So I've now narrowed it down to two builds, but here are a few questions I answered from the first post,
Apparently the HAF X case allows a lot of dust to enter the case?
And I was told there's no point getting the 4GB GPU since I'll only be playing it on one monitor?
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Alongside any recommendations.
Thanks.
7970 over 680 unless you prefer nVidia.
The WD Black is a fast and loud drive (but usually more reliable). You could get a 2TB Seagate and a 1TB WD Blue for the same price which should be quieter and can act as a backup or recording drive.
4GB cards are right now currently way overkill for games (Even 2GB cards are in 95% of cases), dunno how it'll be in 2-3 years with all the unified memory on consoles.
Everything else looks good.
Because it's a 2 grand purchase and the threads could help later.
I'm not an expert, I'd just take a kitchen sponge to it. It's not near the contacts. How about the USB port on your case?
Yeah it is. I did hear that theres no difference between the 3770k and 3570k when it comes to gaming. But would it add extra life (a year for example) to the computer?
BeekleMatter
Member
Coke and a paper towel? Coke works on car batteries but I don't know. Why would moisture be in your USB causing rust...?
Thanks for the response, appreciate it.
7970? Is it better than the 680? I am a fan of nVidia, never tried other graphic card brands.
I think 2TB will be more than enough, I have 1TB on the current PC and I still have 300GB left..
So do you recommend I stick with a 2GB? Although I wouldn't mind having the 4GB if it ensures I can play the latest games on high/ultra settings..? :s
Also, is their any difference with the two MOBO's (Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H and ASRock Z77 Extreme4)? I'm just looking at the prices, hence I think the Gigabyte would be longer lasting..?
chickdigger802
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yyyeaa no clue how the rust got there.
But my 360 controller go way back... and you know, shit happens in college :S
I guess ill try scrubbing some coke on it later!
But my 360 controller go way back... and you know, shit happens in college :S
I guess ill try scrubbing some coke on it later!
When I upgraded in 2007, I purchased the 2900XT without realising it came with The Black Box (The Orange Box minus Half-Life 2 and Episode One). Suffice it to say that I was pleasantly surprised when began to piece together the system.
PedroPanache
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Swapped out my Asrock z77 pro4 motherboard for an extreme4, and I'm shocked that Windows 7 booted up fine. Never had that before, always had to reinstall Windows with a new motherboard. I'd cleared up my 128gb SSD in preparation of a fresh install, backed up data and, now for the time being, I don't need to. I wonder if it's because the boards are so similar, so consequently Windows 7 didn't flip out and booted up just fine.
ss_lemonade
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Looks like it does with Crysis 3
I once switched boards between 2 different manufacturers and didn't run into a problem. I did do a reformat at the end of the day though lol
Burger
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I'm going to do the same for my case. Putting my computer to sleep (so I can get some sleep) for some reason makes this horrendous giant blue LED flash on and off like it's trying to signal the mothership. Who designed this shit? (Fractal Core)
TryHardShounen
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I'd flip it. PhysX only seems to add unnecessary eye candy to most games anyway. Things like electrical sparks or slippery oil spills come to mind.
7970 is a better value than a 680 and has more vRAM. Drivers have come a long way. I think you should get some free games out of it, but not sure since you are in AUS.Thanks for the response, appreciate it.
7970? Is it better than the 680? I am a fan of nVidia, never tried other graphic card brands.
I think 2TB will be more than enough, I have 1TB on the current PC and I still have 300GB left..
So do you recommend I stick with a 2GB? Although I wouldn't mind having the 4GB if it ensures I can play the latest games on high/ultra settings..? :s
Also, is their any difference with the two MOBO's (Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H and ASRock Z77 Extreme4)? I'm just looking at the prices, hence I think the Gigabyte would be longer lasting..?
The RAM on GPUs is mostly for texture packs, mod overhauls, and lots of extra AA. It adds no performance. Usually the card will get to an unplayable framerate before it runs out of memory and is a non-issue.
I only mention the other drives because the WD Black is loud. It's a good drive though compared to what else is on the market now.
Mobo differences are small to the end user. I just know the ASRocks have been good buys for value and usually offer more voltage regulators than others at their price points (good).
I can't seem to find what I remember reading once, which was crushing the LED with pliers or something? That sounds wrong though!
Thanks for the response, appreciate it.
7970? Is it better than the 680? I am a fan of nVidia, never tried other graphic card brands.
I think 2TB will be more than enough, I have 1TB on the current PC and I still have 300GB left..
So do you recommend I stick with a 2GB? Although I wouldn't mind having the 4GB if it ensures I can play the latest games on high/ultra settings..? :s
Also, is their any difference with the two MOBO's (Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H and ASRock Z77 Extreme4)? I'm just looking at the prices, hence I think the Gigabyte would be longer lasting..?
Mate don't be a fan of a GPU... it makes no sense, just go with the best bang for your buck. Nothing offers that better than a 7970.
I'm a proponent of Asrock, mainly because they offer everything the other more 'popular' brands do for much less price.
The amount of video memory won't effect you if you are on 1080, 2GB is loads, it won't really increase frame rates.
cripterion
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Haha yeah I have the fractal design R3 and it's annoying as hell. I usually cover it up with my 360 gamepad whenever I put the PC to sleep.
Burger
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I'm just going to unplug the wire from the motherboard, and probably the HDD LED as well. Both are pretty useless.
Oh just those? Yeah you can unplug them. Could try some filters / cutting the small plastic that channels the light.
It's late, I really should avoid posting at these times.
Witchfinder General
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Question: Is there any way to get 5.1 out via the optical out of my Gigabyte g1 sniper 3?
(My amp is having major problems with hdmi and needs to be replaced so optical is my only choice)
(My amp is having major problems with hdmi and needs to be replaced so optical is my only choice)
Thanks for the response mate, appreciate your help.
So I'm getting a better graphics card if I go for the 7970, which will allow me to play upcoming games on good settings? Not even sure why I'm a ''fan'' of nVidia, just been using their graphics card for a while. For some reason i have a feeling I'll have issues with a Radeon graphics card?
Don't think the loudness will bother me, well hopefully it won't..
Hmmm, so their isn't much difference between the two MOBO's?
Thanks for the response too, appreciate it.
So the Radeon 7970 is a great graphics card?
Yeah, I'll probably be playing at 1080, so hopefully you're right with the 2GB's being loads.
PedroPanache
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Thanks for the response, appreciate it.
7970? Is it better than the 680? I am a fan of nVidia, never tried other graphic card brands.
I think 2TB will be more than enough, I have 1TB on the current PC and I still have 300GB left..
So do you recommend I stick with a 2GB? Although I wouldn't mind having the 4GB if it ensures I can play the latest games on high/ultra settings..? :s
Also, is their any difference with the two MOBO's (Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H and ASRock Z77 Extreme4)? I'm just looking at the prices, hence I think the Gigabyte would be longer lasting..?
Just bought the Extreme4, it's a great board for a fairly cheap price. Not to mention it's great for overclocking; in fact, there's a really fantastic, in depth overclocking tutorial on youtube from an Aussie, the guy uses an asrock board, goes into great detail about how offset, fixed and auto settings work, and how they can help you find your CPU's optimum overclock setting. Of course, at the end of the day you go for the board which best suits what you're hooking up to it.
Yup.
GraveHorizon
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Thanks! 670 sounds pretty good now. I guess I'll have to start overclocking as well, and get a 650W power supply. And all that extra activity probably means a better cooling fan than the stock CPU fan, right?
As for the monitor, is the Asus VG278H really the best monitor, and if so, is it worth $600?
Cheers.
Also, for the 7970 is there a specific driver that is recommended or should I just download the latest?
ASROCK stuff is generally solid, just sounds like you got unlucky.
Just the latest.
HolyBaikal
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Don't know if 'pictures of your builds' is a thing we do around here. But it would seem like it is.
I figured I would take some pictures of my old build, before I put it in my new case or make any other upgrades. For comparison and nostalgia purposes. Also to show how much I cleaned it up.
Pictures are of horrible quality because I took it with my cell phone. I have a real camera, but I'm too lazy to go grab it. HD 6870 not there because I've been cleaning both the PCI-E slot and the card.
That top PCI-E slot was the one filled with dust that I can to clean. With a lot of toothpicking and canned air, I managed to get it to this point. If you can even make out whether there's dust in it at all from the bad picture. Just take my word for it that it looks a lot better.
I figured I would take some pictures of my old build, before I put it in my new case or make any other upgrades. For comparison and nostalgia purposes. Also to show how much I cleaned it up.
Pictures are of horrible quality because I took it with my cell phone. I have a real camera, but I'm too lazy to go grab it. HD 6870 not there because I've been cleaning both the PCI-E slot and the card.
That top PCI-E slot was the one filled with dust that I can to clean. With a lot of toothpicking and canned air, I managed to get it to this point. If you can even make out whether there's dust in it at all from the bad picture. Just take my word for it that it looks a lot better.
Put your RAM in the same colored slots so they run dual channel.Don't know if 'pictures of your builds' is a thing we do around here. But it would seem like it is.
I figured I would take some pictures of my old build, before I put it in my new case or make any other upgrades. For comparison and nostalgia purposes. Also to show how much I cleaned it up.
Pictures are of horrible quality because I took it with my cell phone. I have a real camera, but I'm too lazy to go grab it. HD 6870 not there because I've been cleaning both the PCI-E slot and the card.
That top PCI-E slot was the one filled with dust that I can to clean. With a lot of toothpicking and canned air, I managed to get it to this point. If you can even make out whether there's dust in it at all from the bad picture. Just take my word for it that it looks a lot better.
Also stop using the toothpick or be careful you don't push back any of the contact pins in the slot (Making an assumption here).
I thought the retailers had the codes?
HolyBaikal
Banned
Ack, I wish somebody said something about that before.
I sure hope I didn't damage it. Is there any way of knowing if I did other than it not working at all? Now I'm worried about something else again. Darn, this is a $300 motherboard, I don't want anything bad to happen to it. I wanto to be able to use it to its full potential as long as LGA 1155 is still viable.
Also, I'll pay attention to your advice about the RAM. Sorry, I don't know much about RAM slot technicalities.
Last picture with the graphics card in, though not screwed in and not connected with PCI-E power cables. So you can see how close it is to the PSU. Or something.
Okay, that's enough pictures and nostalgia or whatever. Time to take everything out and put it in the new case. I think I wanted a keepsake for all of that wiring I did.
Hey folks!
I have just one simple question.
I currently have an Ati Radeon HD4850 with 1gb vram.
(It sits with 8gb ddr3, a Phenom II 550 and I do not know what type of motherboard exactly, but it supports DDR3 on rams, so it is not that bad, I guess).
I do not want much more "firepower" from my GPU. What I want is this:
a. A slight-to-modest upgrade
b. To not overheat and go crazy upon any sight of pressure (playing Path of Exile/SCII mainly on this pc)
c. To consume less power and be potentially smaller in size or not larger than my 4850.
Is this possible for a reasonable price? (sub-200$, basically)
I do not want power gains, I want that card to simply be more efficient. And I suspect that I might need to get a new cooler since I am using the stock fan on my CPU and it easily goes crazy on any kind of temp rise, and pushes 5-6000 rpm to keep that CPU no more than +60 celsius. But I would want to eliminate any sound/consumption bonus that might come with the already - I assume - outdated 4850.
I have just one simple question.
I currently have an Ati Radeon HD4850 with 1gb vram.
(It sits with 8gb ddr3, a Phenom II 550 and I do not know what type of motherboard exactly, but it supports DDR3 on rams, so it is not that bad, I guess).
I do not want much more "firepower" from my GPU. What I want is this:
a. A slight-to-modest upgrade
b. To not overheat and go crazy upon any sight of pressure (playing Path of Exile/SCII mainly on this pc)
c. To consume less power and be potentially smaller in size or not larger than my 4850.
Is this possible for a reasonable price? (sub-200$, basically)
I do not want power gains, I want that card to simply be more efficient. And I suspect that I might need to get a new cooler since I am using the stock fan on my CPU and it easily goes crazy on any kind of temp rise, and pushes 5-6000 rpm to keep that CPU no more than +60 celsius. But I would want to eliminate any sound/consumption bonus that might come with the already - I assume - outdated 4850.
If you want a lower TDP the 7770 is a decent option but I'd go for the 7850, it'll be a great step up.
Thanks, I will look into that. Is there any way to determine whether that PCI-E 3.0 is any different from 2.0, compatibility wise?
This is my motherboard, btw
VE3TRO
Formerly Gizmowned
I imagine £200-250.
BTW James it's Reece from Twitter. Forgot you posted on here.
Yo! Didn't know you were on here.
For that money I'd go 7950 https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-098-GI or Dabs is the same price, their delivery is usually cheaper http://www.dabs.com/products/gigaby...-hdmi-windforce-3x-oc-7XN5.html?q=7950&src=16
What does the rest of your rig consist of?
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