Vestal
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Be aware that your system will probably be extremely unstable with the 670 and your current PSU. It may boot but once the card starts pulling power it may crash your machine.
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Be aware that your system will probably be extremely unstable with the 670 and your current PSU. It may boot but once the card starts pulling power it may crash your machine.
For sure. I don't have everything everything yet. But here is my tentative parts list. Funny how my 'small upgrade' has approached a thousand dollars.
Base Components
Intel 2550K
Asus P8Z77-I
EVGA 670 4gig SC
Samsung 8GIG Green ram
128gig 830
250gig 840
SILVERSTONE ST45SF-G 450W PSU
Watercooling (selection help from mkenyon)
Radiators - XSPC EX 120mm and 240mm
Blocks - EK FC670 (video) and EK LTX (CPU)
Pump - D5 or DC-LT
Pump Top - EK D5 Top or Alphacool DC-LT top
Tubing - Duralene 7/16x5/8"
Fittings - Monsoon 7/16x5/8" White, various angle adapters, T fitting, fill port
Fans - 3 x Corsair SP 120
Probably going to go with the EK D5 top since it is easier for me to find in Canada. But the other pump is smaller so it might end up being necessary. Going to be fun moving my other hard drives to being external. Maybe I'll finally make the NAS I want at home. (Or use my Q6600 for a server - how did I start by 'upgrading' and just end up building a completely new computer?)
I still need to get most of the watercooling stuff, the SFX powersupply and second SSD. I'll be really really surprised if this gets completed before June.
Vestal
Junior Member
Im sort of the same boat as you. I am planning on switching to watercooling on my current rig..
Current System
Intel i7 2600k
Asus P8z68 Deluxe
Corsair Vengeance 16gig 1600 kit(4x4)
Corsair 750 watt PSU
EVGA 660ti(Going to Step up to 670 if the refresh doesn't happen in the next 87 days)
Corsair 800d Case.
Currently have 2 Corsair SP120s on my H100 CPU cooler, and 1 SF140 in the case. (need another 140 since only have 1 for intake and using stock corsair fan for backside outflow).
Although I am leaning towards the swifttech pumps.. Not sure if I will go with their reservoir which has the 2 integrated pumps or just buy a separate reservoir and pumps. Same radiators in mind, although I need to figure out how they will fit in the 800d Case.
Maybe go one bottom and 1 top radiator.. dunno.
Heh, yeah.... mine is probably going to take a fair bit of tweaking once I have it all to fit into this
http://www.craftograph.com/compactsplash/index.php?route=common/home
Can't wait.
EDIT: Serious question guys. What should I put on the nameplate? You're allowed up to 13 characters. "kennah" seems a little too boring. Any ideas? Colour suggestions welcome too. Currently leaning towards the same blue as my Subaru - 95H Blue Ridge Pearl.
http://www.craftograph.com/compactsplash/index.php?route=common/home
Can't wait.
EDIT: Serious question guys. What should I put on the nameplate? You're allowed up to 13 characters. "kennah" seems a little too boring. Any ideas? Colour suggestions welcome too. Currently leaning towards the same blue as my Subaru - 95H Blue Ridge Pearl.
So, HDD question.
My 1 TB data drive is getting full (about 90 GB left) and I want to snag a new one. This one currently has all my Steam, Origin, and non DRM games as well as movie backups and music.
Would it be smart to keep this drive for media and then just buy another 1 TB drive for Steam/Origin/non-DRM games? Or just ditch it and get one 2 TB drive and use that for everything (excluding the OS)
My 1 TB data drive is getting full (about 90 GB left) and I want to snag a new one. This one currently has all my Steam, Origin, and non DRM games as well as movie backups and music.
Would it be smart to keep this drive for media and then just buy another 1 TB drive for Steam/Origin/non-DRM games? Or just ditch it and get one 2 TB drive and use that for everything (excluding the OS)
Machine Messiah
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How do you guys plug your computers into the wall? Do you have some kind of battery backup, or do you just use a basic "power strip?"
UPS is best but I'm poor and I just use a cheapo power strip.
MisterNoisy
Member
Both of my desktops are each on a 1500VA UPS. Even a small UPS is nice to have, particularly if you live in more storm-prone areas.
Vestal
Junior Member
My personal preference is the following.
1 128 SSD for OS
1 258 SSD for Games/Apps
1 500 HDD as a scratch drive(temp folder, Page file, and staging area for downloads)
2 2 TB drives in Raid 1 array for backup.
Currently running
1 128 SSD OS and games
1 500 HDD scratch
2 1TB Drives in Raid 1
I personally always encourage a mirror solution for Backup/Important stuff..
If you are limited to those options. I would get the 2TB and use both drives, 1 for OS and non game apps, other for Games+Backup
STUPID GOOD DEAL FROM MICROCENTER
Maximus V Gene for $105
Generally you would only need two pumps if you want redundancy or are having pressure issues from a giant 3 way SLI loop with huge radiators.
Maximus V Gene for $105
Keep in mind that DDC pumps are very very noisy unless you get the MCP35x w/ PWM and run them at 35-45%. Otherwise, a D5 pump is the way to go.
Generally you would only need two pumps if you want redundancy or are having pressure issues from a giant 3 way SLI loop with huge radiators.
Extremely normal. It would be abnormal if you didn't have a core that was different than the others.
You should have orange fluid and a grey box. Put 'NeoGAF' on the front
Welp, went to Microcenter about an hour away and bought all my parts.
All in all, spent a tad more than intended, but I think in the end I'll be happier. It's not like I'm hard pressed for money, I just like to be smart. I do have some mail-ins that will give back like 60-80, not sure, gotta go through them.
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Didn't really intend to buy the BluRay drive, but figured it'd be nice. Went planning to get 7850, but the GTX660 was what I wanted and unlisted online...also cheaper so that went well. Monitor was something that just went on sale today on their site, so I felt good about that too, considering I didn't want to spend anymore than that.
All in all, spent a tad more than intended, but I think in the end I'll be happier. It's not like I'm hard pressed for money, I just like to be smart. I do have some mail-ins that will give back like 60-80, not sure, gotta go through them.
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You should have orange fluid and a grey box. Put 'NeoGAF' on the front
Thought of that, wife veto'd the idea
noomi
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Welp, went to Microcenter about an hour away and bought all my parts.
Didn't really intend to buy the BluRay drive, but figured it'd be nice. Went planning to get 7850, but the GTX660 was what I wanted and unlisted online...also cheaper so that went well. Monitor was something that just went on sale today on their site, so I felt good about that too, considering I didn't want to spend anymore than that.
All in all, spent a tad more than intended, but I think in the end I'll be happier. It's not like I'm hard pressed for money, I just like to be smart. I do have some mail-ins that will give back like 60-80, not sure, gotta go through them.
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Nice man, I built my whole rig through microcenter. They have some amazing prices, and the one in NJ only has 3.5% sales tax
Nice man, I built my whole rig through microcenter. They have some amazing prices, and the one in NJ only has 3.5% sales tax
Thanks. I've built a handful of systems, but never have been to a Microcenter before. Always bought from Newegg and maybe local stores for peripherals.
Nice store, much larger than expected. Was really weird, I got there around 5 min before opening and there was a crowd outside the door. Haven't seen that in some time. Apparently a huge demand.
Only 3 of their stores in my state.
How the hell is Microcenter so cheap? The i7-3770k is 229.99 right now!
How about a Maple Leaf cutout on the front, paint the radiator behind it red, white case with red side panels.
Hahaha. Perfect.
They currently have a deal when buying motherboard/processor/ram that makes the 3570k, basically any MB and 8GB ram just over $300.
But yea, good prices on most items. Processors and some othe things are in store only though.
A little too expensive for me haha, I still don't have my SSD. Money was tied up in other stuff so I couldn't afford it and put my OS on a 120GB laptop drive as a placeholder until then.
Vestal
Junior Member
Well this is my first watercooling build, so I guess I will ask you this question since you apparently have done it before.
Is there a huge temp difference with 2 Radiators?
I am a stickler for redundancy so I am going the 2 pump route, however what would be a better config? Daisy chain next to each other or have 1 right behind the intake for the radiator and the other on the outtake?
Xdrive05
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Pisses me off, 'cause I'd have to drive like 6 hours to get to one.
I'd actually like to flip my 3570k 4.5Ghz for a 3770k at that price... alas.
noomi
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Yup! I picked one up for that price last month. <3 microcenter!
Radiators have a rating of heat (in watts) dissipated. If you surpass the amount of watts that are being cooled, you do not gain any benefit. So lets say you have 300W you want to dissipate. If you gets rads that combined can dissipate 350W, there won't be any difference in temps between that and rads that disspiate 300W.
Choosing the radiators in specific is a combination of a few questions:
1) How much space do you have?
2) How quiet do you want the system to run?
3) Are you planning on expanding more parts to be cooled as well in the future?
What determines how much heat a radiator can dissipate is based on total fin surface area. Obviously you can pack more fins in a thicker rad, but radiators also have a rating called FPI (fins per inch). High FPI radiators require fans to be spinning fast in order to adequately cool, and are really inefficient at low RPM. Low FPI radiators are extremely efficient at low RPMs but fall off as the fans spin up.
Here's the website you can pull most of your data from to decide.
As far as where to put the pumps, it doesn't matter in the slightest. Though it is natural to think of a loop in terms of a point to point system, this is actually inaccurate. The entire loop is going to be normalized throughout, so it doesn't matter where you put the second pump. If you were to place them in daisy, or a second one after a particularly restrictive block, the flow will remain the same.
This same logic applies to loop order as well. A lot of people want to go Rad->block->rad->block, but that has absolutely no benefit compared to putting block after block after block. Water moves so fast that the heat from a prior block does not transfer to the next. Always go for the shortest and cleanest route possible.
Ok guys, time for my upgrade for my Video card. Card will mainly be used in my monster HTPC. PC is about a year old now i think. It currently has a XFX 6850. It does its job. BUT, id like it to be replaced with something that will have an easier time doing its job.
Requirements in terms of importance:
Low Noise
Low heat
Low power
Since its an HTPC, i game at 1080p. So that is the minimum as well, maximum threshold. Playing POE makes my fan on the card ramp up and its quite noticeable. Mind you i have most of the settings cranked and it does its job quite respectably. I usually jump out of the loop once i upgrade and then jump back in 4 years later to catch up, so i need some help
Requirements in terms of importance:
Low Noise
Low heat
Low power
Since its an HTPC, i game at 1080p. So that is the minimum as well, maximum threshold. Playing POE makes my fan on the card ramp up and its quite noticeable. Mind you i have most of the settings cranked and it does its job quite respectably. I usually jump out of the loop once i upgrade and then jump back in 4 years later to catch up, so i need some help
VE3TRO
Formerly Gizmowned
Regarding the CPU I'm stuck between the 3970X and 3930k (oc'd 4.4GHz). The 3930k does seem better value for the money and near results with overclocked but since I'm going to be sticking with this build for along time to come would the 3970X be more future proof?
I've done some price changes and I would be paying £250 more or so for the 3970X.
I've done some price changes and I would be paying £250 more or so for the 3970X.
WOO! My $485 used PC just arrived! It looks absolutely perfect. I don't have time right now to do a boot or anything (and I don't have my monitor yet), but when I plugged it in the mobo light turned on and everything looks pristine anyways, so I have no reason to believe it won't run perfectly.
No pics for now, but I'll take lots of pics when I get everything set up in about a week!
Also, from the pictures that Lian-Li case looked pretty meh, but seeing it in real life... man, that thing is a beauty. And it's SO SOLID.
Also regarding the case, what's the best way to clean it? There are a few very minor marks that seem like they should come off very easily but I don't know if there's a specific way you're supposed to clean aluminum. Also I'll need to clean off some sticker residue after I peel off the Apple sticker that was slapped on the side (lol).
No pics for now, but I'll take lots of pics when I get everything set up in about a week!
Also, from the pictures that Lian-Li case looked pretty meh, but seeing it in real life... man, that thing is a beauty. And it's SO SOLID.
Also regarding the case, what's the best way to clean it? There are a few very minor marks that seem like they should come off very easily but I don't know if there's a specific way you're supposed to clean aluminum. Also I'll need to clean off some sticker residue after I peel off the Apple sticker that was slapped on the side (lol).
SquiddyCracker
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Heh, I got a gift certificate from Amazon covering the price drop of the SSD I ordered from them
They didn't need to offer a gift certificate, but that they did anyway shows to what extent amazon costumer service goes to ensure that the costumer is happy.
Will purchase again from Amazon.
They didn't need to offer a gift certificate, but that they did anyway shows to what extent amazon costumer service goes to ensure that the costumer is happy.
Will purchase again from Amazon.
I can't recommended this motherboard enough! Terrific deal on it!
Slap a 3550k and a 670 in it and go to town!
Heh, I got a gift certificate from Amazon covering the price drop of the SSD I ordered from them
They didn't need to offer a gift certificate, but that they did anyway shows to what extent amazon costumer service goes to ensure that the costumer is happy.
Will purchase again from Amazon.
Nice to see that the policy has changed since I got my SSD :| I had to order another one at the reduced price and send it right back (as the "older" one) to get my money back.
Vestal
Junior Member
Hmm ok i have to ask. Comparison wise with the p8z68 deluxe board how does this one perform? for that price its too tempting.
I would just add to make your life easier put your pumps low down. As you fill your loop you need to have constant water flowing into the pumps so its best to have the reservoir before the pump in loop order and above the pump physically.
VE3TRO
Formerly Gizmowned
Alright then. I think this will probably be the final build. I'm happy with the price. Managed to change a few things from yesterday for a little bit more cash.
Vestal
Junior Member
yeah that was my plan from the start actually.. Still have to design how I will set it up, but I have a lot of room to play with in the 800D
I have the Asrock Extreme 4 and it's running my 3570K@4.5Ghz stable. Should I entertain the thought of buy this and replacing it?
OriginofHysteria
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With regards to the Fractal Design r4, should i invest in fans to replace the stock ones? If so what would you recommend?
RibbedHero
Member
Nope. Put that $105 to better use somewhere else.
It's pretty good
(I have one)blindrocket
Member
I had the same shock!
The last PC I built was back in the HL2/Doom 3 era. (shoved a BFG 6800 GT OC into a tiny Shuttle case)
Parts have gotten bigger over the years!
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Here is my question, the BIOS reports I have my CPU @ 4.4 GHz, while Windows system properties reports stock speed of 3.4 GHz.
GhastlyGaseous
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I would love to have an answer to this as well, right now I was thinking about buying two of these to go in the front two slots and moving the case fan to the back, but if anyone else has any better ideas...
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